Morning Joe 2

Why not post on the MSNBC thread?

I don't have a good answer for you R1, except that I joined the previous thread and the discussion there was exclusively about Morning Joe. That thread filled completely and as I was viewing the program this morning; I noticed Chris Matthews. I looked for a "Morning Joe" thread and there were none. So, I started this one. I didn't even think to post on an MSNBC thread

What is always up Lemire's ass? His constant negativity about Biden indicates how much of an ass he is.

"As soon as he is the nominee..."

I HATE the disingenuous nature of this program.

Interesting that the above article states Lemire's wife is an editor for that right wing rag Wall Street Journal.

Alcoholism.

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I have A LOT of respect for Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgewick. They lost A LOT of money in the Madoff Ponzi scam/scheme and yet they seem to have held no bitterness about it at all.

[quote]How much did Kevin Bacon lose in Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme? How much did Kevin Bacon lose in Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme? The 64-year-old actor has never detailed the exact figure, but various reports put it somewhere in the millions, maybe even as high as $30 million.Oct 11, 2022

Okay... while I like Karine Jean-Pierre, her makeup is a bit overdone this morning. Or, is it just the lighting?

OP, Chris Matthews is 78 years old.

Most people start losing weight at that age.

Give him a fucking break.

OH! And, Eugene Daniels has stepped up his game! He got his nails done. What color was that?

LOL! How funny is Mika this morning as Joe rants and raves and all she can do is show expressions without saying any words. She is relegated to grunts and nods! LOL!!!

Chris Matthews has two volumes...Loud and Louder.

Enough of ancient plagiarist Mike Barnacle's pontificating.

The bell was lame.

Back in his Boston Globe days, I recall a Barnicle column that had him encountering Jackie Onassis on Newbury Street late one evening and he escorted her to the Ritz Hotel where she was staying.

Barnicle claimed that the hotel’s front doors were locked and the two of them had to bang on them furiously in order for Jackie to enter.

I'm new to watching MJ (just started a few weeks ago). Do they repeat the 6 am - 8 am show between 8 - 10 am ? Is that why she brought out the Valentine's Gift again ?

R17, Yes.

R18 Thanks - I thought it was live programming for a full four hours.

R19, It is totally “live” when/if there’s a major breaking event, but that’s rare.

R20 Thank you !

[quote]The bell was lame.

Yes. It had me yearning to hear their sports commentary of which I detest.

R17, the 6AM to 7AM is repeated at 8AM. 9 to 10 is new. Usually Joe is gone by then.

Thanks everyone for the info. It gets confusing - so thanks.

I like Joe but he is really being arrogant (more than normal) this morning as to how smart and wonderful he was in Congress. Stop with the bemoaning of Reagan era. It's done. This is when he sounds like a resident of Jurassic Park.

And, R25, the Reagan Debt aka The Debt is what Joe says got him to run for congress. Notice he never blames his lover Ronnie for it.

Scarborough stopped bragging (he was perfect) about his time in congress a couple a years ago because viewers hated it. He started up again and hasn't stopped. John Heilemann was shocked when he learned it on the air.

Did Patti Davis piss through her inheritance already?

LOL! Joe is "going-off" and ranting asking the question over and over again, are "these" Americans too stupid to see Trump for what he is? Well... he (Joe) always says that he has many friends and family who are Trump supporters and so therefore why isn't he asking them to get his answer?

Imagine Joe Scarborough is a BEAST in bed.

Why doesn't Lemire just go work at Fox? He is such an arrogant, anti Biden putz. He mugs in front of the camera in such a desperate need for fame. Too bad. I once thought he was a talented journalist.

I was startled to see Barbara McQuaid with a full face of makeup! I did not like it. Either she had a terrible makeup person, she was not lit correctly, or I'm too accustomed to her scrubbed freckly face.

I can't watch MJ. I'm glad Chris Matthews is being resurrected. I remember Chris has Diabetes, and had to miss his own show a few times due to illness, diabetes related. MJ himself I cannot stand. They used to have some great guests on, but Joe would talk over them, and go on these rants that lasted so long, he sucked up all the oxygen in the room and the guests r arely ever got to say much. And let's not forget Mika and Joe's love affair with Donald Trump in 2015-2016. Lemire and Heilemann are POS assholes who were really ugly towards Hillary and I have neither forgiven nor forgotten. Pontificating Mike Barnacle got on my nerves. Willie Geise was the only one I could tolerate. And remember when Joe would pick fights with some of his regular guests? Those were the days. You want to listen to really good news broadcasts turn on NPR in the morning. They do a great job. I will sometimes catch ABC or NBC, or CNN too. But no more MJ for me.

Come out of the closet, Jonathan Lemire.

R31 it’s an undisputed fact that MSNBC has the worst make-up artists in the business.

R32, Chris Matthews said ON THE AIR that the only reason Hillary won a Senate seat was because her husband fooled around. Matthews is an obnoxious dinosaur who does not belong on TV.

[quote] And let's not forget Mika and Joe's love affair with Donald Trump in 2015-2016.

That's right! NEVER FORGET!!!

But it wasn't only Joe and Mika. It was pretty much all of media. The problem (IMHO) is not the media as much but we as a people. We want to be entertained and like it or not, Trump is entertaining. The media is continuing to do the same thing now, IMHO. Every hour it's about what Trump is doing and yet no one seems to be able to challenge him and/or his people on the issues or whatever idiocy he spews. His communications people do not respond ti inquiries? If that's the case then REPORT IT!

It sickens me that David Ignatious is allowed to sit on the MJ panel without being really questioned about the "hit" piece he wrote a few months ago basically stating that President Biden should get out of the race because he is old.

They all wash each other's backs. It's disappointing, but not surprising.

Take some of the time you spend (rightly so) trashing trump and trash some of their fellow enablers.

Peter Baker from the NYT is a great example of cheap shot both siderism always at the expense of the Democrats. But there are many more in clear sight.

I'd love to see a roundtable of mea culpas, talking about what they did to enable, why they did it, and their part in the ascendance of trump.

I'd clap Lemire's cheeks.

R36 you're right in that all the media helped to normalize Trump. But I reserve a special place in Hell for Joe and Mika, who dined and partied with Donald at Mar A Lago, and whose morning phone calls with him were the highlight of their program several times a week. Then suddenly they did that 360 and pretend shock and outrage at his behavior and his politics.

[quote][R36] you're right in that all the media helped to normalize Trump

Trump was never normal. These "journalists" and "news pundits" were starstruck by him and did not do their jobs.

R4o, right after Trump was through with Joe and Mika, he went on to other shows like Today and Good Morning America. I listened to him because he was a funny lunatic. You must understand that Trump was considered a JOKE until he won the first primary. No one cared that they gave him a platform, including me, because he was such a jerk. It’s the stupid masses that bought it - not anyone’s fault, everyone’s fault.

The media manipulates the viewing public all the time and is a key player in setting the political agenda. That's why every year corporations spend billions on advertising. The basic goal of advertising is to create a demand for a product Politically the media frames issues and promotes them. There is a huge difference between reporting a story, and covering it. . Current examples of agenda setting include the persistent highlighting of Biden's age/competency, Inflation, and the mass immigration at our southern borders. It is not what is covered. Certainly most of these things are news worthy. But it is HOW they a re covered. We became comfortable with Trump as a political candidate in 2015=2016. He was the cherry syrup covering up the bitter taste of Russian This was engineered by the Media who don't give a rat's ass for responsible journalism. They no longer see their role as a public service as they did back in the 50's and 60's. They are strictly about ratings and revenue and their reporting is often incomplete, lacking in context, and chasing that shiny object. A lot of the coverage of important news is just plain missing.

Wanted to add that there have been many legitimate studies done on how constant exposure to something desensitizes us to the threat. Putin spent a lot of money a couple decades ago to parade around shirtless riding a horse. Virile handsome and non threatening.

Joseph Scarborough is fucking SEXY!

[quote]We became comfortable with Trump as a political candidate in 2015=2016. He was the cherry syrup covering up the bitter taste of Russian This was engineered by the Media who don't give a rat's ass for responsible journalism. They no longer see their role as a public service as they did back in the 50's and 60's. They are strictly about ratings and revenue and their reporting is often incomplete, lacking in context, and chasing that shiny object. A lot of the coverage of important news is just plain missing.

Let's not forget that the media EVICERATED Hillary! While I was not a Hillary fan, I did vote for her because I knew what the alternative would be. Yes, Hillary and her team must take their accountability for her loss too, but they had a really tough uphill battle and wind against them because of the media.

[quote]Wanted to add that there have been many legitimate studies done on how constant exposure to something desensitizes us to the threat.

Why do you think that Republicans keep saying over and over again that the election was stolen. There are lay people all the way up to Congress who now genuinely believe that the election was definitely stolen.

[quote]R40: Then suddenly they did that 360 and …

Jesus. Go take a geometry class!

[quote]R40: Then suddenly they did that 360 and …

Jesus. Go take a geometry class!

[quote]R40: Then suddenly they did that 360 and …

Jesus. Go take a geometry class!

[quote]R40: Then suddenly they did that 360 and …

Jesus. Go take a geometry class!

All the money they make and neither Joe or Mika can work five days two weeks in a row. Mika out yesterday

R47 who said if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it?

We live in a post-truth America - and increasingly, even parts of Europe.

What to do what to do... listen to Joe? Heaven help us. But at this point, I'll taken anybody putting "our side" on the air - anybody.

* I'll take anybody...

I agree, R53.

But will someone help me? Isn't it a law in France that all political advertising must cease 48 hours prior to an election? I seem to remember hearing something like that when President Macron was first elected. I only bring this up because at least it acknowledges the issue of "dangerous" propaganda and it's something (even though it's minor) to try to rein in misinformation.

This is just another peeve of mine with the Democrat party. Why has no one fought to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine? I "get" it and agree that the majority of all legislation should be reviewed re effectiveness and results every 5-10 years, but did anyone every ask why was the Fairness Doctrine implemented in the first place and therefore after evaluation of it is it still needed?

I'm so tired of Mika pushing the women's summit next week and 'Know Your Value'. I'm sure it's a cash cow for her but it's just tiresome at this point.

It was the Republicans under Reagan who abolished the fairness doctrine, so why is it the Democrats you're peeved with, R55?

I fully understand that, R57... Thank you. I'm peeved at Democrats because when I see something that was good (and still needed) legislation, then shouldn't Democrats (if they are protecting Democracy and are for the people, as they say) reintroduce some type of legislation as such even if they know it may not go through? I guess I'm about taking the offensive and fighting to take control of the narrative. You see (at least I do) that Republicans seem to never let go of an issue that they are pushing for. Other things that I'm peeved with Democrats about? Police and prison reform, tuition free education for those attending junior colleges, voting rights, and maybe a few more. Now, will the lack of disinterest (for a lack of a better word) dissuade me from voting Democratic? Not at this time because when I still do my "pro and con" listing Democrats are still winning. However, that does not mean I'm still all hunky-dory with them either. I want to see elected Democrats fight for issues as if their lives were dependent upon the passing and being implemented--even when they don't.

R58, right now it's not a priority. The Debt Ceiling is, Voting Rights is, Gun Safety is, and various Environmental issues are. There is a very extensive menu of issues that need adadressing, and IMO the fairness doctrine, and the FCC in general needs to be overhauled and reformed. I agree with you. I believe a lot of the problems we are experiencing politically in this country, as well associally, are because of policies Reagan enacted back in the 80's with this being one of the more important ones.

I 100% agree with you, R59! But what is that proverbial sayig? " I can walk and chew gum at the same time", I believe? I want to see the elected Democrats fight back much harder. stronger, and with a core principle(s), than what I've been seeing.

R60 we're in a position right now that everything costs. Everything is a negotiation. And until we get our secure majorities in BOTH houses of Congress, we have to prioritize.

Mmph, MJ panel rants about the news coverage of President Biden vs Trump re health, etc. Yet, they allow David Ignacious on the show every other day without pushing him to justify his piece calling for Biden to drop out of the running...

R62, Because they, and most people, know that David Ignatius was 100% correct.

[quote] all the media helped to normalize Trump

Not "normalize". The media's orders were to build Trump up as the republican leader since after all he would be the easiest to beat opponent for Hillary. By the time Joe, Mika, and their colleagues reversed course it was too late.

An historic own-goal.

Trump's solo domination of the AM news shows (TV and radio) for months on end in 2015-2016 is only one person's fault: Hillary Clinton's. Every one of those programs would have LOVED to feature her too, daily, had she been willing to call up and chat extemporaneously like Trump. But she was too scripted, filtered and cautious for that, and it cost her campaign big-time.

^ Howard Stern

I don't know about that, R66. I pretty much agree with R65 BECAUSE Hillary and her team were "hostile" towards the press. However, she had A LOT of journalists (for example Andrea Mitchell) who were reporting as if they were out to get her on something... anything, and so why would she want to be subjected to that? The interviews and press that she did do just came across as combative to me. The media did allow Trump to skate through for the longest of time.

I don't trust generalizations. Not all the Dems consciously elevated him. Many in party leadership positions locally and nationally remember too well when that was tried duing the run up to the 1980 election. Some touted a "strategy" of elevating Reagan over Bush, believing Bush would be more difficult to beat. So I don't think the sentiment was widespread in 2016. They may have said that, but if they did they were whistling past the graveyard. Everyone knows what happened to John Kerry. Everyone knew in 2016, that the media and the messaging machine of the GOP could take a piece of shit and make it PResident. ...and they did.

And, the hits keep HITTING!

My issue with this... Okay, for me, it's no longer about Trump (and it hasn't been for me for quite some time) but it's about all of the enablers. This guy could not have revealed this the first time around?

Robby Mook was a poor choice for Hillary’s campaign manager in 2016. Reportedly, they were no longer speaking in the final weeks of the campaign.

Tim Kaine was a poor choice for Hillary’s running mate in 2016. He brought nothing to the table other than the fact that he could speak Spanish.

Neither Robbie Mook nor Tim Kaine mattered. Hillary knew her fate was guaranteed.

Of course they did, you idiot R71.

All this revisionism and blaming and the fact is, Hillary won the popular vote, by a margin of nearly 3 million. This was not Bush v. Gore. Late evening of election night 77, 744 votes began shifting in three states. The election was stolen. It has been proven, not theory, but FACTS that Russia sent a team over hear to see exactly how our elections were processed in 2014. They visited individual states. In 2017-2018 it was confirmed that with t he 2016 election, the ability to hack into the voting machines to change votes was confirmed. Of course we also heard that there was "no evidence to support the fact that any votes were changed." Well, of course there was no evidence! But is there anyone who believes that you can get into the machines, but you won't change the votes?

John Lewis, and Jimmy Carter both said publicly, that Donald Trump was illegitimate and Carter went further to say that the Russians stole the election for Trump. Carter made this statement on National TV, in 2019. Remember that number: 77,744 votes. Stealing is easy if done right. You shift a few votes precinct by precinct until you get enough to get the desired outcome. And Republicans were stealing votes long before Trump. Remember how upset Karl Rove was when he realized Obama got re-elected in 2012? On live TV. He was pissed off when Fox called it. That's why Trump was so pissed off in 2020. He was sure they could pull off another electoral college "win." (He's never won a popular vote.) When he said the election was stolen he was projecting, as he always does.

R73, Presidents are not elected by the popular vote and never have been.

Trump’s team knew how to play the electoral college game, Hillary’s team did not.

Fuck Jimmy Carter, the absolute worst POTUS in my lifetime.

Not just defeated but vomited out of the White House. At least West Virginia liked Jimmy

Exactly, R75. But also remember the context. The Iranian hostage crisis. and since Iran has been a "client" of the Russians for decades, it is safe to assume the Russians had a role in manipulating that election. Their hatred of Jimmy Carter was visceral. They truly deeply wanted him gone. And the Reagan with his theatrical "tear down this wall" bullshit in Berlin, and the whole Glastnost thing. Once the Soviet Union was dissolved, and the utilities were privatized the Deputy Mayor of Moscow was ready to move in to the Kremlin riding on Yeltsin's back. I have to wonder how many American "moguls" enriched themselves back in those early days of the "new" Russia, by skillful collaborations.

Waiting in endless lines to buy gasoline only on designated days and able to purchase just a minimal amount.

Told to keep our thermostats at 68 degrees during winter months and to put on a sweater.

POS peanut farmer in way over his head in DC.

The show is so much better without Joe S on his own show. They had some good discussions today, and a good panel.

R78, that's what I found so frustrating about MJ. Joe Scarborough himself. And years ago he was even worse if you can believe it. He was rude and cutting in his remarks to guests and would be insulting and pick fights so that some of his regular guests walked off the show and two of them never returned.

They need to get rid of them both, Jeo and Mika. Get a new team in their and call the show ""Jo Mama"

R79, And he’s raking in $30,000,000 per year?

You forgot 10% inflation while Carter was pres.

Oil prices were part of the pain inflicted on Carter. It drove inflation. Just as inflation was a key issue for Ford before him. Remember Ford's "W.I.N." Program? "Whip Inflation Now!" but they didn't.

So... For all the Republicans that are now endorsing Trump (ie Mitch McConnell) are they now saying "F-U" to the many police officers who were injured during the Jan 6th insurrection and why wouldn't this be a story?

R84 they’re saying F U to everyone

Trump made a speech calling for party unity. I think he's going to choose Haley as his running mate. He needs the money and the big money guys will insist.

Joseph is probably a hot fuck.

A bland white woman gets that in her bed every night.

R87 they probably use sex toys. They look like a swinging elderly couple.

^ Dreaming....dreaming...Drifting, dreaming in an azure mood

I wonder if they will mention this tomorrow morning???

Mika talked about her 3 day Rich Woman Summitt in Abu Dhabi on woman's issues. How much is a hotel room for three days in Abu Dhabi and then air fare?

^But she's reaching that every day and average woman!

"Biden Trump secure nominations setting up a rematch"

This was the chryon message running this morning. IMHO, this is the issue with the media and our politics. Our politics are not some mere game match! Where's the seriousness of the moment in such a chryon? Are bets being taken?

“Our politics are not some mere game match!“

Unfortunately, they now are.

R93 you just summarized everything wrong with how the media covers politics.

Why does MJ continue to have Chuck Rosenberg on as a legal expert? He always comes across as right wing and makes dings at Democrats whenever he can. Claire git a little feisty with him (you go Claire).

^I don't get that impression, R96. However, this morning he was rather defensive about that Hur guy. He said that he knew him. Maybe they are friends? Anyway, I find Rosenberg generally objective and impartial.

Mika is such a frantic control freak any time Joe is out. I wonder if the guests also dread when they show up and discover smarmy Ms. Know-Your-Value is at the helm.

[quote]He said that he knew him. Maybe they are friends?

Define friends? Do they hang out on the couch Saturday nights Netflixing?

WOW! That Lisa Rubin has a FAT ass!!! She's up there with Symone Simmons!

Okay... I readily admit that I am shallow...

Lisa Rubin annoys me. I’ve bitched about her before but it seems like they’ve put her on even more since then. Clearly, no MSNBC exec is reading DL.

Let me just refine my criticism to this: Lisa Rubin is equal parts Tracy Flick and Cheryl.

[quote] Mika talked about her 3 day Rich Woman Summitt in Abu Dhabi on woman's issues. How much is a hotel room for three days in Abu Dhabi and then air fare?

I don’t know about that, but I was curious and checked out that summit. Registration cost $10,000!

[quote] Clearly, no MSNBC exec is reading DL.

How dare MSNBC execs living in their blind narrow bubble overlook the home of the intellectual resistance.

[quote]Clearly, no MSNBC exec is reading DL.

I don't know...

I've been quite surprised a few times by those who read the DL and then out of left field post a comment.

Is Lisa Rubin related to Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post columnist who used to appear regularly on MSNBC ?

No, but she is related to legendary comedian Benny Rubin.

R105, NO. Rubin is a common name,

Does anyone have an idea about how much more money (if any) Mika, Joe, and Willie, are making given the extra MJ hours and weekend edition? Isn't this what the writers and actors were striking about? The constant use, reuse, and overuse, of their work and images?

Lemire needs to switch to decaf. He is always hyped up.

Look, once before Lemire, they tried The Freak (Yasmin Vossoughian) as Way Too Early host. It didn't go well.

It's their tech support that is working overtime.

Each 3rd hour of MJ is a recut of the immediate preceding two hours.

The weekend roundups are further cuts already in the can.

The MJ digital video editors are the real stars of the show. Their MICRO edits are amazing and can flatten out a full rage rant into a courtroom presentation from Hour 1 to Hour 3.

[quote]Look, once before Lemire, they tried The Freak (Yasmin Vossoughian) as Way Too Early host. It didn't go well.

Poor Yasmin. That girl can't land anywhere and sit for a spell to even warm a seat.

Joseph in the studio brings a different vibe.

Oh, gosh! Has Donny Deutcsh every heard of ChapStick? And that tan which is now scaling...

Is that a wig Mika is wearing this morning?

[quote]Poor Yasmin

Poor US who have the misfortune of seeing her face. AND hearing her rush through copy.

Joe is on a crusade to make BULLSHIT common vernacular for Standards and Practices.

So will Ronna be joining the table?

He might ask her about her uncle and why he is a good Mormon and she isn't.

Mmph! Now, I don't know how I feel about that one, R118. What was the thought process of NBC on that one. What does Ronna bring to the table? I suppose I would be interested in listening to an objective conversation between her and Michael Steele but anything more I don't see her value. Why doesn't NBC just hire Ted Cruz for goodness' sake?

Maybe Ronna will be ratting out the imbeciles on the Right, but I doubt it.

[quote] What was the thought process of NBC on that one. What does Ronna bring to the table?

Seems plain enough. She was brought down by Trump allies, unfairly I thought, and fair or not with Trump's standard unnecessary nastiness. We can reasonably expect she will spend the time until the election as just one more MSNBC talking head doing nothing besides crying about Trump and those who sided with him.

Thanks for giving me a bit of insight, R122 because I just am not seeing it. I have to admit (and only entertainment purposes) that I would like to see a debate/conversation between Ronna and Symone Sanders-(whatever her married name is) and then... a cat fight between Ronna and Joy Reid! Now, that would be GOOD television! Ahem... excuse me for debasing our politics to entertainment--our politics deserve, and should be respected more but... I can be shallow at times.

I love starting my day with MJ on my DVR. I also try to see the first couple blocks of DWH in the afternoon live. I can appreciate Joe’s and Nicolle’s politics and opinions because even when I disagree with them, they are principled, well meaning patriots.

This moon-faced sow (title of a diff thread) actively sowed division and distrust of an election, sycophantically dropped one of her names, and actually accused her new network of spreading propaganda.

I will no longer be watching MSNBC or NBCNews.

^M A R Y !!!

And a PROUD one at that! This should not stand.

As much as I’d like to see This Moon Faced Sow atone for everything she has said and enabled, whether it’s in the studio vs. Michael Steele, or via camera against Claire M., or trying to snatch Joy’s wig before Joy wallops her, TMFS should not be paid for it. It should all be retribution.

CUNT!

R36 NEVER have I found trump "entertaining" on any level! Ever since the first time I heard him on t.v. 30 years ago or so, I always want to vomit when I hear his voice.

Little did they know that the Republicans would destroy themselves by embracing southern and midwestern fundie bigots.

Ha ha ha!

Though they may bring the whole country down with them, so I shouldn't laugh. Yet.

R127 is the t.v. Troll. Television is one word and is abbreviated TV.

Okay... Morning Joe has officially banned Ronna McDaniel. Interesting

R130, Yet, Al Sharpton, who should be serving hard time, is welcome on MJ often and even has his own MSNBC show.

I fast forward through Sharpton. No interest in his insights

Mika is going overboard again today with her sighs and “yeah” when off camera.

I'm a big fan of Sharpton. He was wrong about the Tawana thing, has atoned, and I find his observations on the money.

Rory Kennedy looks just like her cousin Caroline. Big Rabbit teeth and beady eyes. Those Kennedy women are very unattractive (the guys seem to come off much cuter, when they don't drink).

R135 I've noted for years that Kennedy women don't stand a chance. Even with the awesomely attractive Bouvier genes to give them a boost, the contrast between John F. Kennedy, Jr. and his sister Caroline is remarkable. She, unfortunately is a Kennedy thru and thru, and John had the dark good looks of his mother and his maternal grandfather.

R136, We can only wonder what Patrick and Arabella would have looked like.

[quote]Rory Kennedy looks just like her cousin Caroline.

Absolutely not. Rory looks like her father, Robert Kennedy. Caroline looks like her mother, Jackie.

CAROLINE

RORY

Rory is the cousin who was getting married in July, 1999 when JFK Jr decided to fly his airplane to the wedding and crashed off the coast of Martha's Vineyard.

HaHaHa!!!

Charlie Sykes just hit the bull's eye!

(paraphrasing) So many Republicans are not supporting Trump... (listing of some prominent Republican names). Not one living Vice President and/or nominee is supporting Trump (listing more prominent names ESPECIALLY Dick Cheney) EXCEPT Sarah Palin...

LOL! Connect the crazy dots!

Has George Bush come out in support of Trump? or against? or is he staying quiet and painting clowns.

[quote] Not one living Vice President and/or nominee is supporting Trump (listing more prominent names ESPECIALLY Dick Cheney) EXCEPT Sarah Palin...

Even worse he doesn't have Taylor Swift. Guess he just will have to settle for the peasants constituting the voting public

[quote]Has George Bush come out in support of Trump?

No. I wouldn't expect him to either. The Bush family DESPISES Trump especially our late First Lady Barbara Bush. She specifically requested that he NOT attend her funeral.

While I think President Bush, Jr is an honorable man (IMHO) I would be surprised if he came out and spoke against Trump. He'll say nothing... which some could argue is just as bad as an endorsement.

As usual, W Bush will say nothing because there's nothing in his simple minded head.

[quote]As usual, W Bush will say nothing because there's nothing in his simple minded head.

He doesn't want them coming for *him*.

W has lived quietly, with very little news coverage. I think that is for security reasons as much as anything else.

R147, Bush has all the security he needs. He doesn't have all the brains that he needs.

Today's closing segment - 'Reflections on Holy Week' - was very moving. He, Al Sharpton and Russell Moore really had passionate comments on the meaning of 'Good Friday' and 'Easter Sunday' without bringing politics into it (though you could connect the dots on your own). Bravo to them.

R149 we watched King of Kings last night. Jeffrey Hunter was a really great Jesus.

[quote] Jeffrey Hunter was a really great Jesus.

I was the OG Jesus. People used to climb the streets of Rio to see me perform!

Symone called Lemire out on his snicker about Florida going purple/blue

I really dislike Lemire. Comes across as a bossy bottom.

Joe and Matthews both suck

Was Joe on Xanax?.

Did e get a talking to from Standards and Practices?

Did he get a talking to from Rashida?

Did he finally convert to the Episcopal Church and leave the lying bastards of the Southern Baptist Convention?

NBC and Rashida are fucking with their moneymaker.

Fuck the douchebags in S&P.

Lemire is so obsessed with Dump & loves to report on all his shit while bashing the Democrats.

Symone can kick that little ginger’s ass. 🍿

OT, but did you know conservative tv host Margaret Hoover (Firing Line) is the great granddaughter of Herbert Hoover? And that her husband is trying to get the Democratic nomination for Congressional District 01 on Long Island? Her husband used to work for Giuliani and he’s running from his summer home in Sag Harbor. Sounds sweet except District 01 is HEAVILY white working class MAGATs. The Hamptons is a tiny blip compared to the hundreds of thousands of suburban homes owned by state, local and federal workers who get paid by tax money but keep voting to cut taxes.

This is why someone like George Santos won. I swear Jay Jacobs, the DNC guy who picks these candidates, is working for the other side. The candidate he picked to run against Santos (Zimmerman) was awful. He also picked terrible candidates to run against Lee Zeldin.

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Yes, yes, we know, R157. John Avlon is a pudgy phony opportunist who is always trying to make himself into a Big Name. He and his family were all Republicans. Avlon turned Democrat for expediency.

Now, Al (Rev Al Sharpton) said something which I agree with him about was a missed opportunity. Hopefully, there will be another such opportunity...

It was indeed a GREAT event that happened at Radio City Music Hall with a TON of money being raised! But, what if President Biden hosted the very next day a morning coffee and breakfast at some large church in Harlem or just some venue for free or at $20/head? I agree with Al that this would have connected and endeared the President more to the everyday American. For some reason, blue collar workers love Trump and yet he can't stand them. However, such a breakfast would have been something that I feel that even President Biden would have genuinely enjoyed.

Rev. Al was right. And I believe if Joe had the stamina he might have considered that. Nothing stopping Obama from doing it, or Clinton who opened the very first PResidential office in Harlem after he left in 2001.

Wow

Elise Jordan is really acting like a bitch this morning. Her loyalty to the Republican party is not in question. Praising Dubya's administration on foreign policy and shitting on Biden's. Very apropos that she is seated next to Lemire.

Ya know.... I thought it was me, R162. I was taken aback when I heard her say something like "I'm sick of hearing how bad Biden feels when he can do something about it..." I still have to consider if it is "me" but I simply don't recall many of these folks using such harsh tones when referring to Trump and/or other Republicans.

The Democrats should not miss any opportunity to go after Congress. They have to take it to them. Hillary was on Jimmy Fallon to promote a play she is producing about the Suffragettes and the Right to Vote. He asked her about people who were "worried" and she said, Hey, tell them to get over it! You got one guy who is old, but he is effective, and he cares about people's lives and he is working hard to make them better. And on the other side you have a guy who is old who has 91 felony counts against him. It's not hard!"

Elise Jordan was in full cunt mode this morning.

She could have started a conversation about W Bush AG, Alberto Gonzales...

Chills, Chills, CHILLS!!!!

Joe was so macho and masculine going off on that Israeli representative. I could see Mika was even getting wet!

OH! I know it's early, but I must get my dildo!

Dildo? Watch a lot of straight porn, don’t you, R166.

It was great R166 to see Joe go off on that Jew Nazi. I wanted Willie to knock the son of a bitch off his chair.

Someone is going to have to take care of Bibi. He needs to not be there....if you get my drift. Problem is that he has some very crazy, very aggressive military leaders who are definitely into total annihilation of Palestine. His generals knew months ahead of time the attack was coming, and did nothing. Almost like they were waiting for an excuse.But WTF do they think will happen to Israel if they successfully destroy Palestine? Toast.

[quote] I wanted Willie to knock the son of a bitch off his chair.

I actually thought that would happen as Nir Barkat was flippant and gave a rather dismissive reply about the food volunteers who were killed by the Israeli fire. Basically... "No one says anything about the many Israeli soldiers who have been killed by friendly fire."

What I think is interesting too is that MSNBC has yet to upload this REALLY contentious exchange on YouTube.

And Bibi sort of took responsbility but the main thing I remember is him saying "These these happen in war so oh well..."

Nir Barkat was echoing 70 years of American Pro-Israeli foreign policy of DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO EXIST.

Iran has found the chink in the foreign policy armor, and Israel cannot field a traditional war.

Just like Hamas bombed its own hospital, I wonder if Hamas got on the airwaves and started fake communications with the World Kitchen convoy and told them where to deliver THE BOMBS. Israel needs to set up transfer points for HUMANITARIAN AID.

But I guess that Joe went off the Xanax as soon as he went on, as the "Merrick Garland" Joe was shit canned and the "Sally Yates" Joe showed up.

R170 . . .

[quote] I swear Jay Jacobs, the DNC guy who picks these candidates, is working for the other side

And I swear, r157, you don’t know shit from shinola!

[quote] "These these happen in war so oh well..."

And so they do.

All this shit right now, I put it on two people:First and foremost, BIbi Netanyahu. Rotten fucking monster. And Vladimir Putin who took full advantage of Bibi being Bibi. Putin thought to distract us and drain the availability of weapons to Ukraine by paying his disruptors to stage attacks. What ever Hamas was planning, and they're always planning, Putin amplified it. He has Iran and Lebanon, and Syria in his pocket and active cells in Yemen. The thing to always remember about Putin is that he is very "flexible." He hates the Jews. But he has Bibi in his pocket because he helped him get back into office. He hates Muslims, but he has been working with Lebanon, Iran and Syria and has become very close to the Saudis. He took full advantage of the shit going on in the Middle East and fostered the Arab Spring. That is the absolute signature of Russia: that they take something that already exists and they nurture it and use it to disrupt, exploit, divide, weaken,etc.etc.etc. And look at what they have achieved in America. Ukraine 's support has dried up. Thank you GOP.

(just placing this here to give us all a chuckle)

Elie Mystal @ElieNYC

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Joe Scarborough turns 61 on Tuesday (April 9). Wonder if they will celebrate his birthday, or ignore him ? Wonder if he will take the day off with Mika ?

Am I the only one who finds the name “Katty Kay” horrible ? When Joe says it, it’s in such a serious tone , one can forget how comical she is

With that stick straight blonde hair and black glasses she would be at home in Archie’s comics, but who would she be? ( spawn from a blonde Barbie mated with olive oyl

I can't remember the details, but she got demoted or fired from being an anchor on the BBC?

Sad.

“Morning Joe”manages to provide the most unattractive panels, day after day.

But they have some of the most interesting and perspicacious perspectives.

Shirley Maclaine

[quote]Am I the only one who finds the name “Katty Kay” horrible

Compared to Mika, she's great. The only issue I have with her is the plastic surgery.

Author Miles Taylor ("Warning", "Blowback") is very cute. Anyone know if he's gay ? My gaydar is pining like crazy.

Molly Jong Fast going after Jim Vandehei on MJ this morning for trying to normalize DUMP.

Go Molly!

[quote] Author Miles Taylor ("Warning", "Blowback") is very cute. Anyone know if he's gay ? My gaydar is pining like crazy.

Engaged to a woman.

R188, He served in both the “W” and Trump administrations.

Mmph... Why is Willie making use of a beauty lamp this morning? Is this some type of subtle dig at Kari Lake?

This segment on undecideds infuriates me.

Fucking "undecideds" are morons. Hell, Americans are morons.

And cue our resident Trumpers here who want to rush to post "that's why Dems lose. They look down on voters" blah , blah, blah.

I do look down on you.

"Hmmm, let's see. I can vote for Trump and if he wins I can watch him AGAIN falsely, dishonestly utter another Presidential Oath of Office or I can stay on course with Biden who isn't a maniacal, treasonous destructive asshole."

Oh, and why weren't those "undecideds" pinned down on, specifically, what Trump policies they liked?

Fuck this country. We deserve everything that happens if Trump gets in again.

None of them asked Nancy Pelosi when she was in studio yesterday about her being vehemently against student loan forgiveness in the past.

I agree, R191. It's just crazy! The guy with the stock portfolio is the one that really got me. IS HE INSANE? The markets are all at record highs!

[quote]None of them asked Nancy Pelosi when she was in studio yesterday about her being vehemently against student loan forgiveness in the past.

Nor did the "know your value" gal rip Kari Lake a new one! What was up with that? This was a perfect opportunity. However, they sure did pat themselves on the back for beating up on the Israeli representative from the other day...

IT'S ALL RIGGED!

There are no real undecideds. You have a higher percentage of people who are dug in and determined, and you have people who are going to vote for Trump but are too ashamed to admit it. It reminds me of the Tom Bradley Effect but I sincerely hope it's not the same result. Tom Bradley was the first Black mayor of Los Angeles. At that time the Mayor of L.A. didn't have any real power. The council had it. And the County had it. But he was celebrated and show cased and everyone loved Tom Bradley. White people especially. He was wildly popular. He had a nice smile, he was pleasant, and he made no real waves. Now, Bradley was no light weight. He was a former athlete, and a former L.A> cop, and he was a lawyer. He graduated from UCLA. So he had all the right credentials. And he was a liberal Democrat. Then he decided to run for governor. It was going to be a close race. According to the polls, he was supposed to win. But he didn't. A lot of the people who said they'd vote for him didn't vote for him/. They lied. They were too ashamed to admit they were racist. Ever since then, it has been referred to in political history, as "The Bradley Effect."

Vanderhei is absolutely correct. The "movement" is more than Trump. If Trump were to die tomorrow, the MAGAts would not suddenly become moderates.

MAGAs were never politically involved UNTIL Trump. Without him, they'll eventually go back to not voting at all.

R196 not if you use Trump to give them an ideology worth supporting. They know he is a racist. They know he supports no taxes. They know he is anti NATO and a supporter of Putin and they're even using Russian talking points openly in Congress. I agree that many will crawl back under their rocks. But others will not, because this is Neo Fascism.

R197, you mean the lost cause was not lost and that the racist south can rise again?

Secession as States Rights?

[quote] This segment on undecideds infuriates me.

How DARE they not be in lockstep with 𝒎𝒆!

"While the voters expressed clear dissatisfaction with how President Joe Biden was handling the economy, the same voters were also very vocal about former President Donald Trump’s leadership abilities — or really, his social media habits."

It's telling how MSNBC try to salvage the exercise by placing the Economy and Tweets at the same level.

[quote]MAGAs were never politically involved UNTIL Trump. Without him, they'll eventually go back to not voting at all.

100% disagree. Before MAGA there was the Tea Party

Before the Tea Party there was Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy

Before Atwater and the Southern Strategy there was Jim Crow (the good ole days!)

Before Jim Crow there was the Ku Klux Klan

Before the Ku Klux Klan there was slavery (heaven on earth... for many)

MAGAS are not the Tea Party or Lee Atwater. To continue without Trump, they'll have to become something else.

^They have. They call themselves white nationalists

Another issue I had with this focus group segment is that it was led by Mark Halperin. Mark Halperin? Really? Serial sexual assaulter; Pro-Trump bias; on and on... just a nasty stuck-up, snobbish, feeling entitled white man! The "know your value' gal didn't have an issue here? No one on and/or off set had an issue with Halperin's credibility?

R6, while the WSJ’s editorial page is right wing, its news side is highly regarded.

Oh, hell. Mark Halperin? Thank you R203. He has no credibility.

Mark Halperin was a longtime collaborator of John Heilemann.

The operative word R206 is "WAS". Is he still a collaborator?

No, R207, but Heilemann obviously thought he had credibility before he got cancelled. Did Louis CK become retroactively unfunny?

Andrew Ross Sorkin is a NYC/Hamptons Trumper.

Link, please, R209.

[quote] How DARE they not be in lockstep with 𝒎𝒆!

Oh, fuck off, r199.

Come up for air from rimming Trumps asshole and smell the coffee.

You're God Damn right they should be in lockstep with me.

And take your false equivalency and GTFO

R206 and together they did their utmost to sink Hillary. I will never forget how they BOTH shit on the floors during the 2016 campaign.

I think your anger is misdirected, R212, especially as it pertains to Heilemann. Trump would never have been president but for Jill Stein & her misbegotten supporters. Eight years later, I have yet to hear a Stein voter take any accountability.

Fuck that bottle blond, eye-rolling sigh machine! What a humorless bitch.

I know he's old (and there is nothing wrong with getting old. May we all have very long life) but Chris Matthews looks awful. It looks as if he is suffering from some sort of cancer.

[quote] It looks as if he is suffering from some sort of cancer.

Maybe it's just the tingling in his leg getting out of control

Doesn’t that Erica Jong crotch fruit realize how ridiculous she looks?

Chris Matthews has Type 1 Diabetes. I remember times when he had to miss his own show for a week or two because of health issues connected to Diabetes. I also think he may well have some kind of kidney disease or cancer. He's got to be close to 80?

He's 78, R218. Great guess! I know he was controversial... sexist remarks, etc... I like him and has always liked him, but I guess the pressures of a nightly show can send most people into "lala" land. I don't know... I've just always thought that his long experience and his sense of what is the "right" and "fair" thing to do (re politics) was engaging for me. Or, maybe... it was his love and genuine fascination with President Obama that drew me to him. Sorry to learn of his illness and that's probably what is contributing to (at some times) look of frailty.

I always liked Chris, but my favorite uncle, now long dead, refused to believe Chris was a Democrat because he thought he was too hard on Clinton in the Lewinsky matter.

Clinton was hard on Lewinsky. I know.

Well R220, Matthews himself, has said that he is much more conservative than people think he is. Also, I believe he had/has a brother who is Republican

Back in the day Matthews would fill in on the Rush Limbaugh Show when Rush would take a day off to play golf with Gerald Ford or Lee Iacocca.

MAtthews represents a perspective often overlooked in Democratic Party politics. He romanticized it to some extent, but it was the blue collar, union worker who embraced the Democratic Party as the "working man's party." for so long. Now a lot of Dems deserted the party after LBJ signed the Voting Rights bill and the Civil Rights bills. But the real exodus happened when ROnald Reagan ran for POTUS. The phenomenon of the so called Reagan Democrat emerged in political conversations. I may be mistaken but Chris was very taken with Reagan as "the great communicator." I often enjoyed him for his passion and enthusiasm about politics, even though I didn't agree with his take on things at times.

R224 here, I will also remind folks that Chris worked briefly for Jimmy Carter as a speech writer I think. And he also worked for Tip O Neill. He started out as a security guard working at the Capitol in D.C. I wonder what he had to say about the insurrection. For those of us who worked for a member of Congress and had reasons to be familiar with that building it was wrenching. I was watching it in real time and filled with anger and crying at the same time. I have never felt such a sense of outrage as I did that day.

Imagine bourbon-filled rage sex with Joseph.

This Lisa Rubin is really getting on my nerves. It must be her staccato delivery that I find annoying.

I like Lisa, she gives Ari a run for his money, as does Katie.

Lisa is a field reporter and Katie is wherever she needs to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if something popped in GA and Katie is there.

Why the fuck can't both of them put in a full week? Historic day, first former President on trial and Joe can't show up?

Amen, R229.

Has anyone gotten a shirtless pic of Ari Melber yet ?

R229, I believe that Mika is the ACTIONARY one. Mika tells us why we are here, what we can do.

Joe is the REACTIONARY one. He criticizes and does analysis on what just happened and where do we go next.

It is a brilliant formula that renders one or the other unnecessary on occasion.

R231, Not shirtless, but does display his hairiness.

^But who is he fucking? WHO IS HE FUCKING!!!

[quote]Why the fuck can't both of them put in a full week? Historic day, first former President on trial and Joe can't show up?

IMHO, this one is a hard one to call. Yep, it's definitely a VERY historic event! But what is really going to happen? It's voir dire (which is usually boring) and unless Trump does something unusual (which is very likely) it is a boring procedure. Yep... I'm entertained driven...

Well!

Trump gave the media what they wanted. He made a statement.

Now, can we go back to regular programming?

I can't stand David Ignatius.

He's an Establishment Phony. (I know, I know, why single him out?)

He wrote a disingenuous mea culpa in the WaPo about his attending Mike Pompeo's (Trump's Secretary of State') monthly salons.

There, the DC Swells could belly up to the trough of expensive food and liquor, all footed by the American taxpayer. He claimed he didn't realize Pompeo was using those salons to gauge interest in a possible presidential run.

[quote]I can't stand David Ignatius.

Mmph... Ya see there? You have stepped on my toes.

You see? This is why this is RIGGED! Ignatius has NOT been properly GRILLED (IMHO) about that 100% hit piece and how he justifies it now given current circumstances and those even before. Joe & Mika have let him skate time after time. It's the same with this Mark Halperin. No one had a problem with that?

I like Ignatius. His and the Times’s Tom Friedman are the two foreign policy voices in the media I first turn to.

Okay, R239. You explain that Ignatius hit piece and what alternatives he was offering and/or solutions. It's one thing to complain but it is quite another to propose solutions and/or alternatives

R232, Mika is a newsreader trying desperately to be something more important. She's improved, but she still stinks. Like an imposter.

Spot on, R241. She is extremely afraid of not being heard. Watch how she almost panics when Joe and the boys start enjoying some sports memory and talk only to each other.

It bothers me every time I hear Stormy Daniels described as “Porn Star Stormy Daniels” as if that’s her name. As if that’s all that defines her. So disrespectful.

But it really pisses me off when I hear Ms “Know Your Value” Mika Brzezinski say it. The same Mika Brzezinski who had an affair with her boss while she was married to the father of her children.

She claims to be such a champion for women. Bullshit. She’s a hypocrite.

I haven't been paying attention, sorry, but did Trump really fall asleep in the courtroom?

[quote] “Porn Star Stormy Daniels” as if that’s her name. As if that’s all that defines her.

Hooker Stormy Daniels would be more apt. Prostitute shaking down a john

Lately, I’ve been hearing “Adult film actress”.

^ I might be offended if I was a child film actress.

Oh, my! Mika's breasts appear particularly bulbous this morning. New brassiere? Is it the sweater? Is she sending a signal to Joe that they need to be handled?

Eugene Robinson wearing some cool glasses, anyone know the brand? They look like rimless with a really long floating brow bar on top? Any opticians on this board know the brand or frame? I want a pair.

Mika’s a Mussolini. She’s trying to get the show to run on time.

R248, looks like she had her implants freshened

Hmm... It would be interesting to see Ari Melber fill in for Willie Geist. I think that would be a successful permanent change.

I stopped watching Morning Joe years ago. I come here for the gossip and the snark and I realize nothing has changed in all this time. Life is short. I'm glad I spent my mornings without them.

Well, that was an insensitive thing that Mika did to David Frum... and probably just for ratings. She could not have said those things to him in private? Rather she surprises him with her comments on live TV and has the nerve to offer an apology for doing so?

If Trump is convicted, she might be known as "America's Savior, Stormy Daniels."

R252, Ari used to be around for legal stuff. Now he has his own show, why would he go back to just being the “legal guy”?

Exposed plagiarist Doris Kearns Goodwin, wearing her Walmart wig, pushing her latest book, her love story with gargoyle husband Dick Goodwin.

Really? I've always liked Doris. This is my first time ever hearing anything about plagiarism re her--not that it means much. I was never aware of that.

. . .

Richard “Dick” Goodwin was frightening looking.

What did she say to Frum?

OH! THANK YOU, R259!

LOL! I loved this..

[quote]The US historian Doris Goodwin admits to borrowing passages from other authors,

Borrowing? LOL!!!

[quote]What did she say to Frum?

He wrote a piece about the unexpected and recent death of his daughter. It happened in February. Mika brought up that piece of which Frum stated that he was unprepared to talk about and became emotional over it and thinking of his daughter's memory.

'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's quotes.' -- Margaret Thatcher

What did his daughter die of? Sounds sus

R265 She was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2019 but had been doing well.

Her death was very sudden.

@davidfrum "This is the article @MikaBrezinski so kindly referenced on MSNBC just now."

R262 - the word "borrowing" made me laugh as well.

The other thing I found amusing was this: "It was simply a mistake in technique. I'd like to believe that I will never make it again".

It's like saying, I'd like to believe it, but I can't make that guarantee.

Okay... I have to now buy Eddie Glaude, Jr's book.

Shit, he said SHIT!

Get Eddie Glaude off my screen!

[quote]The other thing I found amusing was this: "It was simply a mistake in technique. I'd like to believe that I will never make it again".

HA! Now that's a press agent who earned their commission!

I really like this Gov Josh Shapiro! IMHO, HE's the one to watch rather than Gavin Newsom--who I like too, but...

wonder what kind of body Lemire has? He seemed excited by Bill Weir being on set yesterday.. could just be my perv imagination.

Why do they insist on having loser Adrienne Elrod on the show? And what is with Claire acting bitchy about the jury pool in New York. She is being an annoying twat with her constant worry about a ringer being put on the jury for Trump. Listen old lady, there is the chance in any jury trial that a juror has not been truthful in the vetting process.

Miranda Frum's moving funeral service.

R274, it’s RED.

I really don't understand the dislike that many of you have for Jonathan Lemire. He seems harmless and non-threatening to me. IMHO. he's much better than that 28-30 year old gal who jumped to CNN. They tried 3 times with her; "KC/DC". the current show, and then something else. I was always bewildered by how someone so young as she could have SO MANY Washington contacts and connections.

R278, Lemire’s effeminate smugness is what irritates me like an intense rectal itch.

[quote]28-30 year old gal

GAL? Ha ha ha ha haaaa!

I'm with you re Lemire R278, and I asked a question about that (I think on the MSNBC thread) a few weeks ago. And someone (probably R280) responded about his being effeminate - as if that's a bad thing.

Whatever - I like the guy.

As for Andrea Mitchell, I don't watch her show. I see her just on the NBC Evening News where she's perfectly fine.

Maybe she's capable of doing only reports and not hosting an entire show.

One if these days I'm gonna watch, just to see if she's as bad as everyone says she is.

Oops - meant to say R279 instead of R280.

JOSH SHAPIRO 2028!

Bill Weir is sexy sexy sexy. He doesn’t work much though. Sounds like he’s got it figured out.

I enjoy Lemire, too. I think he's very good looking and has a sexy way about him. I'll take Lemire over Geist any morning.

[quote]I'm with you re Lemire [R278], and I asked a question about that (I think on the MSNBC thread) a few weeks ago. And someone (probably [R280]) responded about his being effeminate - as if that's a bad thing.

I agree. I'm so SICK of the oppressed becoming the oppressor. I'm so sick of "gay" being considered less than

Doris Goodwin had this fling with LBJ. She doesn’t deny it.

Jonathan lemire is SO MUCH BETTER than the losers they’ve had in that job in the past - Casey Hunt, the dull gay one, the ugly Yasmin whatshername,.

[quote] Yasmin whatshername,

Poor child. She just can't land anywhere and sit comfortably for a spell... But I betcha she'll get that MSNBC gold watch!

Who was the dull gay one?

[quote]As for Andrea Mitchell, I don't watch her show.

Me neither. I finally realized and accepted the reason why too. I just can't forgive her for (IMHO) being so unfair, harsh, and borderline abusive, to Hillary Clinton--and I'm not really a Hillary fan. She and that other gal from the NYT (you know who I'm talking about)... too much.

Jonathan Lemire pings louder than an arcade.

R289, Yasmin Vossoughian is so grotesque and unwatchable - not to mention she can't read fucking copy or ask a coherent question - that I'm surprised MSNBC hasn't terminated her for life.

Okay... I'll place this here since he was on the show today...

I don't get this. I thought he was beating kari Lake blind, and if he isn't, there is something VERY wrong. It just comes across to me that he begs for money incessantly without really ever talking about policy

[quote]Yasmin Vossoughian is so grotesque and unwatchable

Somebody is watching. She's been with MSNBC since 2017. That's a LONG time in television years.

WOWEE!!! That montage of Republicans flipping (against Trump and now supporting him) shown this morning is something that the Democrats can't use??? How POWERFUL was THAT clip!

It’s called supporting your party, R295.

r296, it's called TRAITORS supporting Traitors, Insurrectionists and SEDITIONISTS.

The Pro-Rape Party will have its comeuppance in November.

[quote]It’s called supporting your party, [R295].

That doesn't make any sense to me. You support your party regardless of "right" VS "wrong", "lies" VS "the truth"? So, if "the party" is jumping off a 100-floor building to its death, as a supporter of the party, is it expected that you follow through and do the same thing?

Here ya go! This should go viral!

R298, It’s not just the Presidency, it’s the House and Senate, as well.

More voters vote in years where there is a Presidential election, so even if the candidate for President is not their choice, they will hold their noses and vote for the party.

[quote]It’s called supporting your party, [R295].

Members of the US Congress do not take an oath to support their party. Every single Republican cum Fascist cum Traitor took an oath to defend and protect the constitution of The United States of America. I realize that's more cumming than most Republicans are capable of under normal circumstances, but nothing gets them hornier than a 300 lb+++ Diapered, Deranged fool wearing a girdle, high heels and ten pounds of makeup, a hue that hasn't been used since 1956 to paint the extras in The Ten Commandments.

But just to give r296 a thrill, here is the oath of the Third Reich. See if you can find any Republican member of Congress who won't insert Dementia J Trump's name into this little diddy.. Find me 10 and I'll give you a buck

"I swear to the leader, Adolf Hitler, as the supreme commander of the German armed forces, loyalty, and bravery. I pledge the leader and those superiors appointed by him, obedience until death. I will always respect the constitution and the laws of the Croatian people. I will lay down my life for this oath"

It’s mind boggling that R301 has no idea how modern politics functions in this country.

It’s seldom pretty, but unfortunately that’s how it is.

Jesus!

Kerry Kennedy also has the Hepburn voice.

r301, everyone knows how politics function in this country. There is a tipping point of corruption and betrayal of the Republic that transcends the normal grift and compromise of human beings having to work together. Are you advocating for this soft slide to autocracy? Show your hand. What are you defending?

r304 was meant for r302

[quote]Kerry Kennedy also has the Hepburn voice.

It's not just her. Have you heard Robert Kennedy Jr speak? Clearly, it's genetic. The Rose Kennedy curse?

Their sibling Courtney Kennedy also has the Hepburn voice.

Numerous prominent Democrats were against JFK’s candidacy for President in 1960.

Eleanor Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson, Lyndon Johnson, etc.

They all eventually came around and supported him, especially Johnson and Stevenson.

Starbucks blonde roast iced coffee. Vanilla coffee, mate two packages of Stevia four pumps of sugar-free white chocolate syrup drink enjoy enjoy

^Someone got off at the wrong exit.

[quote] Numerous prominent Democrats were against JFK’s candidacy for President in 1960. Eleanor Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson, Lyndon Johnson, etc.

Eleanor Roosevelt had a strong anti-Catholic bias. Truman hated Joe Kennedy ("It's not the Pope I'm afraid of, it's the Pop."). Stevenson & Johnson two had 1960 presidential ambitions of their own

No shit, 311.

Thanks for needlessly embellishing my post.

R312, not every poster is as informed as you. I think many of our correspondents would benefit from some context.

Lemire is OK, he's anti-Trump. Don't like the 12 year old looking girl who covers for him on his show like this morning. Way too chipper and peppy for 5:00AM.

R306 = new to planet Earth

[quote]Truman hated Joe Kennedy ("It's not the Pope I'm afraid of, it's the Pop.")

I agree, Joseph P Kennedy was a weasel. Trump and JPK would get along well.

Harry Truman, in DC for JFK’s Inauguration, was the first guest JFK had to the WH family quarters the morning after.

JFK and Jackie slept in the Lincoln Bedroom until their bedrooms were finished being painted and JFK ushered Truman into the Lincoln Bedroom where Jackie was still in a negligée.

On the Schlesinger audio recordings, Jackie said Truman turned beet red and was embarrassed as hell to see a woman other than Bess in her nightclothes.

What's up with Jeremy Peter's hair this morning? He looks as if he just rolled out of bed.

He’s trying out the Kitty Carlisle look, R318.

[quote][R289], Yasmin Vossoughian is so grotesque and unwatchable - not to mention she can't read fucking copy or ask a coherent question - that I'm surprised MSNBC hasn't terminated her for life.

Well, she earned herself at least another year at MSNBC after today's reporting!

R318 . . .

Not if people had to look at her, R320

Yasmin>Chris Jansing/Katy Tur

^ Yasmin, stop posting here

If it's Wednesday, it's Joe's day off.

Mika sure loves saying “Pecker” this morning.

Mika said, "Willie, I had the news on all day and if I heard the word 'Pecker' on more time, I thought I was gonna lose my mind. But he was the lead story. PECKER!"

To which Wilie later remarked, "I think you're enjoying saying his name. I'm picking up on a theme this morning."

It is because Mika loves pecker?

Symone used the phrase the Pecker on the stand...

More like she hates it, R328

So is somebody going to do the lame

r330 = Joe

cliché?

Symone Sanders is a huge reason not to watch. Aside from the fact that I detest Joe and Mika.

Obviously Mika loves Joe’s Pecker.

The real question is Does Joe love Mika’s Mussy?

Symone forgot her eyelashes this morning.

Her eyelashes fell off, crawled across the table and jumped into Mika's coffee cup, much to Mika's despair. Mika screeched, and Symone called her a racist.

Symone has good points now and then, I like her. She's just not your typical TV news host.

Awesome R335

Symone loves that Glitter Eyeshadow.

Symone needs breast reduction surgery.

r339, is Symone a Slitheen?

Now we have entered the Palestinian/Israeli people support of the Israeli war against Hamas.

Opened a tb foe ATK on Pluto, this MSNBC block will last until x:45am.

oops, they went out at x:35.

ATK is testing kitchen breast. The Kosher bird is more flavorful because of the Koshering salt.

But a Double Palestinian Block. Yuck.

X:47 final block, Supreme Court, before the MJ Third Hour reboot from Hour 1: 8am ET, 5am PT.

Searing shrimp with a little sugar on ATK.

Joe is on his 8am nap, Mika doing the bridge before the HUGE commercial break before the 6am replay.

8am, reboot opens with a brutal Biden takedown of Trump by Kimmel and Biden.

The WHCD is going to be brutal if Biden is testing his material this early.

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Another ATK Chicken Show on Pluto.

The MJ reboot usually lasts until the first hour C/3rd block. 40-45 mins.

ATH testing chicken for final 160°F.

Joe Biden is starting to look like Melania's twin brother. I'm still voting for him, but it had to be said.

Joe is blathering about why the AZ indictments took so long. In a state with a Republican Governor and a Republican AG?

Pull your pants up, Joe, It took the election of a DEMOCRATIC ATTORNEY GENERAL in January 2023 to move this indictment.

PAUSE

ATK has move on to Classic Mac and Cheese. YUM! B Block for next 15 mins.

It seems that MJ has moved on from Axios and is now firmly with Politico.

Politico has the lock on Supreme Court corruption. Good move, Rashida.

Is there a reason why we’re doing minute-by-minute commentary today?

Do all the talking heads—Weissman, Vance, McCaskill, etc.—get paid per appearance, or do they have a blanket contract?

I've come to the conclusion that MJ has never been live stream commented on. We have commenting for SNL, that sad unfunny show, live, and i thought that Rashida might like to see where viewers go during the third hour repeat. ATK has moved to Pan Roasted and Flambéed LOBSTER, YUM!

Also, people may not know, but the third hour reboot is CENSORED from all the nasty words that send Mika and Standards and Practices at NBC into Butt-hole sphincter clenches.

Joe and Mika are back at the first hour excoriation by President Biden of the Trump killed Border Bill.

Lobster with TA-MAH-LEE sauce!

Mika's other brother is rather comely, in a British Poet way, explaining the Russian economy and how Putin is fucked.

The reason they replay hour one, every day is because it is the foundation of the broadcast and people on the East Coast are too lazy to get up at 6am.

Oh no! NOT THE TOWER OF CRAB! S5E9, ugh.

Back to Russia, like Anne Applebaum. Sensible.

Like Not-A-Mystery Science Theater.

Ribs and cornbread.

Back to MJ live 9amET

Joe is fired up after his 8am nap.

People forget that Rachel was the one who discovered and kept the drumbeat going for the Fake Electors Election Fraud case.

Heilieman! So glad he wound up at Puck.

I switched over to CNN. It's priceless watching Andy Cooper stifle a giggle every time he says "David Pecker".

Ari Melber does not look happy being up so early.

Guess Katie Phang is getting more time than Rap Stars these days.

Finall the explanation of what took AZ so long.

Brnvovich needs to be indicted.

Wow, Heiieleman signs off with a quote from Hitler. Brilliant.

Cabrera/Ballart ZZZZzzzz....

Couldn't cover a hanging.

R359 That’s Mika’s cousin, not her brother

Thanks, still cute. He can still read Byron to me with my head in his lap...

[Pecker]

Held salacious material on Lá Sènatrice & then turned gentleman caller?

How many stories about Arnold cheating on Maria did Pecker testify he killed?

If it's Friday Joe AND Mika are off.

WHEW! That Michael Fanone is HOT!!!

^Indeed! I love the slow pan of the camera beside him where you could see those legs in those tight jeans. And he's looking a little more buff than usual too.

Joe, Mika AND Smirky Lemire. Are off.

Willie and Jen Palmiery at the helm.

Mika getting what she needs from Michael Fanone while Joe is at work.

Let's be honest, Joe is a fugly, pinched faced conservative wannabe musician no one could get a hard on for. Mika is only with him for the $$$. But a girl has needs. Enter Michael Fanone. He's everything Joe is not in bed.

Willie is hosting one of the strongest shows. Great guests and thoughtful commentary. Handsome Willie is a smooth host.

Jennifer Palmieri has a face that could induce a seizure.

No matter how hard they try to make her look presentable for television, it’s an impossible task.

Willie Geist’s lost twin.

Pablo Torre is a great sports guest! Sweet looking little fuckbear, too.

The Judi Dench interview was boring and a waste of time.

Does anyone believe Joe stayed up past his bedtime reading Dench's book?

that guy who came on to stick up for millennials was epic

Willie's gayvoice is only slightly less severe than Andrew Weissman's.

I'd rather see Fanone and Joe in bed than Fanone and Mika.

I'd rather see Fanone and Vaughn Hillyard in bed.

Where is JOE??????

I believe the Dench block was a pre-record.

I thought the Dench interview was entertaining. I am a huge fan of hers.

Ali Vitali is my new idol! She's GOOD.

I wonder if Ali Vitali and CNN's Jeremy Diamond are still a couple, he has been in Israel almost constantly since October.

Oh, apparently Ali Vitali and CNN's Jeremy Diamond are a married couple and expecting a child.

Jeremy Diamond is straight ????????????????? No way.