They don''t work out their legs. They have terrifically muscled upper bodies and toothpick legs. Why the aversion to leg workouts?
I don''t know, but I''ve seen the straights with skinny legs too. But, that is true.
It''s not just gay men - I see many guys at the gym who never do anything except upper body work. They only want to lift weights (so much more macho than using the stair machine or the elliptical trainer).
I see this too, and it''s not just gay men. I think it''s not so much their workout regimen, but genetics. Long skinny legs, and skinny calf muscles can be worked out until they''re hard as rocks, but simply won''t get any larger without something like steroids or calf implants.
Yeah, it''s all about the chest and arms--the most visual part of a guys body and what you first notice. So I make sure that I do a fair amount of time on the stairmaster so that my legs get soome exercise even if it''s not weigh bearing exercise.
OP acts like skinny legs are just an epidemic amongst gay men. If anything, gay men work out their legs much more than straight men. Men are more focused on having big biceps, pecs, ripped abs than they are on having muscular legs because having a big muscular upper body is considered more masculine and powerful in our society. Men don''t care about the lower body as much because the lower body is not associated as much with masculinity as the upper body. It''s all about what people consider masculine.
We all seem to have body issues, but this is one area where i don''t. My genetics favored me with legs like those of a football player.
It''s easier to take off your shirt when you''re dancing than it is to take off your pants.
It is not just a gay thing- a lot of gym bunnies have this. I have been conscious of this since an episode of "Wings" I saw as a kid when the crazy old lady made some crack about a hot guy with a huge upper body and skinny legs. Haha.\
Since I joined the gym I have worked out my legs religiously. But its hard to get any development because they are already used to a lot of activity. My calves are finally starting to show a little development after a lot of focus. \
Any tips on leg exercises?
It''s even easier to wear shorts.
There''s a guy at my gym who has razor sharp abs (which he is constantly displaying by pulling up his shirt) and great upper body development.%0D\
Today, I saw him in the locker room. He has the ass of a 60 year old, it literally sags. Add in the toothpick legs and it really is a ridiculous look to sport.%0D\
I really can''t have a lot of admiration or respect for someone claiming to be a body builder (in the loosest sense of the word), then turn around and ignore some of the biggest muscle groups in the body. %0D\
If you''re going to do something, why be so half-assed about it?
Soccer players have amazing legs.
I also think this explains why so many guys now work out in pants instead of shorts.
I blame the board short trend.\
Why work out your legs when you''re going to cover 3/5 of them up?
i HATE THIS! I call it - BGNA - Big guns, no ass, and I DETEST IT!
Hopefully enough people have said it that it''s understood it''s not just gay men, though I have to say the fact that you assume this to be true shows how little time you spend with straight people or how much you assume this look is gay.\
Some other things I''ve noticed:\
1. A lot guys at the gym don''t wear shorts at all, and if they do it''s the baggy basketball shorts, not board shorts, but usually some kind of pants. So I''m not sure how you''re making this assessment, but if these guys -- who rarely give off a gay vibe to me, and some I see with their girfriends -- I can''t tell (and don''t care).\
2. A lot of straight guys at the gym also do no cardio, and seem to be on either (a) a lot of supplements, and (b) the steak-potato-beer diet. No part of them is thin, much less their legs.\
Do with that what you will.
For those of you that want great legs and a rock hard ass, I have one word -- SPINNING!
It must be genetic. Women seem to have awesome calves and thighs; most men don''t. I workout constantly and have very strong legs with very defined calve muscles...but I''ve never been able to make them "Grow." Basically, I have chicken legs.
Franky, I find the muscled upper body and skinny leg fad rather sexy. Plus it allows the lad to wrap his legs around your back so much more easily than if he had tree trunk thighs.
Dunno--Jackman does have some calf development showing in the picture. I don''t doubt that genetics are a factor, but you don''t need ''roids or implants to get *somethin''* goin'' on down there. Work those legs and asses, dudes.\
I think str8s call the upper bod bar muscles--you look good trying to pick up chicks at a bar.\
Give me the whole package.
If you were a fat kid, you''ll never have to worry about skinny legs - just the stretch marks on your inner thighs and hips.
Yeah, it''s even more common in straight gyms. Gay men who are vain and body-conscious usually include, in their workout routines, some effort to have an ass.\
Years ago I used to work out at a very straight bodybuilders'' gym where a cartoonist posted a goofy pic of this kind of guy (big stacked T-frame above the waist, grasshopper legs down below).\
The image came with a little poem:\
"Boy, there''s something that you have forgotten.\
Step up to the bar, and get to squattin''."
I was born with naturally large calves and thighs that I inherited from Mother. Not all of us are disproportionate.
19 year old
There''s certain perception among the men who are gymgoers that elliptical crosstrainers, stairmasters, and stationary bikes are for people who want to lose the weight. I hardly ever see most guys at my gym do long interval aerobics, it''s all free weights, weight machines, push-ups and such. I am fortunate that genetics blessed me with very muscular legs but I don''t understand how one can claim to be a fitness buff without incorporating aerobics into their routine.
"but I don''t understand how one can claim to be a fitness buff without incorporating aerobics into their routine."%0D\
For a lot of people, going to the gym has absolutely nothing to do with fitness or developing ALL of your body. As someone said upstream, it''s just about developing parts of the body that will get you noticed out on the dance floor, and hopefully, get you laid. Doesn''t matter of the person is gay or straight.
I agree, big thighs and ass MEANS sex to me, pecs are fine, but a skinny ass and thighs is a boner-killer
Yup, I noticed this when I was a kid first going to gyms in the late 70s. Straight guys too. Total athletes and of course guys who know what they are doing in terms of fitness tend to do complete workouts. In fact I think there is less of the upper body only syndrome in gyms now than there was years ago.%0D\
But it still persists.
It''s because gay men spend most of their time on their backs, with their feet up in the air. This drains blood from the legs and is what causes the toothpick syndrome %0D
Why is it these stick legged buffoons are always the ones preening and flexing in gym mirrors. Don''t they realize how stupid they look, or are they not just looking below their belt line?%0D\
I happened to see one of these guys once naked in the locker room (naturally, he always wore long work out pants on the gym floor). He wasn''t a huge guy but he had tremendous definition and was very lean on top. His lower body, though, looked like he was a concentration camp survivor. It really was gross.
TIme to work out
Yeah, i did a brutal day of legs yesterday. But it is so hard to get a burn in your calves. I did 4 sets/12 reps of high weight standing calf raises and 4 sets/16 reps of mid weight seated raises. Any other ideas for calf exercises?
I work out both. Then again, I''ve always had muscular legs. My chest is fairly developed too but it''s my arms and abs that really need help. \
A lot of guys prob. don''t care about their legs because they don''t have a natural muscularity there. But that doesn''t mean that some toning isn''t a good thing.\
Also, not sure if some of the threads here are based on this, but many hiv positive guys have very worked out upper bodies but the drugs have unfortunately robbed their legs and butts of muscle tone. This is most likely true of guys who were on the old generation of drugs. I understand the new generation is much less likely to cause those kind of fat and muscle distribution issues.
I get cramps in my feet
The elliptical works wonders for shaping and lifting the ass. It really should be called the Ass-Master.
Not Margaret Cho
[quote]Hugh Jackman owns this thread.%0D\
You couldn''t be more wrong. If you saw "The Boy From Oz" - where he plays fellow Aussie leg man Peter Allen and changes clothes on stage while showing some serious leg - you wouldn''t be saying that. Not only does he have fantastic natural long shapely legs, but also they''re developed beyond the call of duty. He must have done some dedicated biking and/or any other sport that develops the lateral quadriceps. In addition, his calves are glorious (but Mommy and Daddy usually give you those).%0D\
Also to be exempt from this thread - gay dancers, gymnasts and figure skaters. Do we have any of those?? :)
[quote]Men don''t care about the lower body as much because the lower body is not associated as much with masculinity \
Except for the penis. \
Recently saw a Sunny in Phil show where one guy tells the other that he only works the "glamour muscles" - meaning chest, shoulders and arms.\
Personally, I think men with great legs are the hottest. Well shaped, muscled, hairy - sends me over the top.
As they used to call them years ago: "disco tits on toothpick legs."\
The elliptical works wonders, as do squats, lunges, leg press, and calf raises.
Skinny, underdeveloped legs are common among otherwise well-muscled men.%0D\
Genetics always play a role in musculation and muscle building.%0D\
I think I''ve noticed the opposite, OP. Sometimes it seems like gay men who work out have great legs but not very muscular upper bodies. My former bf told me that it''s because gay guys like to have hot legs when they''re being fellated.%0D\
Dunno myself. I''m muscular all over. And very self-satisfied, too, I might add.
Ding ding ding, R28.\
I''ve always found it easier to get my ankles behind my head without those ridiculous muscles in the way.
I AM very muscular in my hips and legs and indeed, I''m not as flexible a bottom as I would like. Frankly, getting it from behind is just better.
boys like toys first
The perfect man''s body is V-shaped, not apple-shaped.
R44 = man shaped like a flamingo
Apple shaped men turn me on
I''ve had several guys at the gym ask me what workout I do to get my big calves. I tell them the truth...ALL the men in my family have them whether they work out or not. Genetics can be a wonderful thing.
"Apple shaped men turn me on"\
Who are some apple-shaped male celebs other than Apple Martin (you do know she''s male, right)?
Meanwhile, I''ve noticed recently that women have amazing asses, even when they get older, like in their 70s, and they don''t do anything to have them.
My boyfriend is like this. I actually love his body. He has 16 inches biceps,a 46 inch very muscular chest and can bench a truck. His legs are skinny and he does very little with leg workouts. I am the opposite with skinny arms but I got big muscular thighs and calves. He says he loves my body. My legs are alot stronger then his too. I like to keep mine toned otherwise they don''t look as good. So I do squats and the leg press. I can squat 225 for reps and my boyfriend can only squat 175 below parallel. I kind of find guys with slim legs and a big upper body attractive. It makes then more v shaped. I don''t have a problem with it.
I was once asked by a roommate in college what workout routines I did to get the big thighs, ass, and calves I have. "Nothing," I said. And it's the truth. The men in my family are all naturally that way.
When I started working out in college, I was always working on my upper body with my trainer. But he told me that the muscles on the upper body need to rest after days of vigorous workout routines before they can grow. And so he taught me how to do the squads properly. And he was right! It helped my upper body grow faster than I thought. So, for those who have hit the plateau in terms of developing the upper-body muscle groups, working on the lower body can help you get over it.
I don't mind if a man has smaller things or legs than mine - most of them do anway, even the "big" guys. But it's definitely not ok if the guy has a smaller ass than mine. I am already small in build, and so most guys are probably bigger than me stature-wise. It's a boner-killer for me if the guy is bigger than me overall - and most of them are - but has a smaller ass than mine. That, my friend, is definitely a boner killer for me.
Few dudes work out legs. It's a dude thing.
I think a large lower body (or large body in general) is mostly due to genetics. I've always had huge legs ever since the onset of puberty.
When I still used to go to the gym, I only did high rep squats with fairly light weights and I never bulked or took supplements, but even then my thighs and ass swiftly ballooned to gigantic proportions and I couldn't fit into any normal pair of pants. I haven't worked out in five years and my legs (and upper body as well) are still huge.
I think the reason why the majority of guys don't bother to do legs, is because they find it too straining and, moreover, most straight women (and gay men) think men with big thighs and asses are gross...
I used to look down on the dudes with no legs before, but I realize it's purely genetic. I have big tree trunk legs. If I don't pay attention to them they can look thick and fat, but when I'm doing the right things they look strong and muscular. It's hot. And people notice them. Add that to my ridiculously broad shoulders ( also genetic) and that I can put on large amounts of muscle with about one week of good work and watching my protein intake and I realize it's all about working what you were born with. But I will say that people ignore working legs because working legs is HARD and requires more strength, balance, and concentration than the usual bench press and bicep stuff that is the norm.
[quote] Why the aversion to leg workouts?
they're harder and gay men (and straights) are fundamentally lazy
Something I've noticed about gay men is how handsy they get with me in the sauna!
My legs have ALWAYS been on point.
Deluded DL queen
skinny legs are easier to keep in the air longer
Physically, society places little or no value on men having developed legs. Men are physically differently than women (non-genital speaking) mostly because they have much more upper body strength and muscle. Men like displaying their upper body strength and power to distinguish themselves from women and show off how manly they are. That is why muscle slut shirts, sleeveless shirts, Under Armour fitted shirts, and fitted polos are popular with men, and short shorts, tight shorts, tight pants, and tights are not popular. Moreover, society focuses on women's legs and butts, which means they think that having a sexy lower body is a feminine or womanly thing. And as stated, women tend to dislike it when men do womanly things like showcase their butt or legs. Women tend to think men who show off their legs/ass are creeps or too fem.
All gay men? Gay white men? Jews or Christians? Protestants? Catholics? If you're going to generalize, please be more specific.
I just don't care about legs and was never turned on or off one way or another by another men's legs. Who cares?
We'll, R61, when they're wrapped around my neck, I like a certain amount of muscularity. And hair. At least, no stubble.
Really OP - something you've noticed about gay men?
Spend two minutes on google - and you will see endless results about the difficulty or building calf muscles.
It takes work and genetics.
In a suit, muscular legs look just like fat legs.
There is no point in over development.
you lying stupid fat cunt!
I think the opposite is true; gay men do tend to focus on their lower body more, because they know other men will be checking out their ass, their thighs and calves, etc....
All men tend to neglect lower bod. It is a dude thing.
Are guys with thicker soccer legs more attractive than guys with tooth-pick legs? Or, vice-versa?
I've noticed this far more with straight men, OP. Strange that your observation is the exact opposite of mine and everyone else I know.
Gay men pay better attention to their bodies because they understand that attracting men is a visual game. Most gay men I know take pride in their ass and work their glutes out specifically. Straight men are more apt to focus only on the body parts that they see in the bathroom mirror: chest, shoulders and arms. They have zero clue about what makes a man attractive, nor do they care, and anything having to do with their ass is probably too "gay". They only care about "getting big", which is all about upper body.
[quote]I just don't care about legs and was never turned on or off one way or another by another men's legs. Who cares?
Muscular legs are a good indicator of sexual prowess, for obvious reasons. All that thrusting is not happening in your arms or chest. I'm a bottom and even I rate guys on their asses because that's where all the thrust-power lies.
Also, who on earth would favor thin or flabby thighs over muscular ones? Honestly, there is nothing hotter than a guy with a set if thick, muscular legs.
A lot of guys are afraid or apprehensive about working out the lower body because other people might wonder why they care so much about their lower body and working on the lower bod is often perceived as feminine or girly. Most guys are okay with doing squats, but if there is some perception that a dude is working on butt exercises, there is a stigma attached.
Where/how do they encounter this stigma?
[quote]A lot of guys are afraid or apprehensive about working out the lower body because other people might wonder why they care so much about their lower body and working on the lower bod is often perceived as feminine or girly. Most guys are okay with doing squats, but if there is some perception that a dude is working on butt exercises, there is a stigma attached.
Is this a good example of a gay man projecting his insecurities?