- It''s terrible. I''ve tried to watch it a few times and it is so boring. Would take Cougar Town over this and that''s saying A LOT.
- R1, Cougar Town has been kinda funny a few times, but yeah, it wears on you.\
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This stupid Parenthood crap looks painfully contrived and pretentious. It looks like they''re trying really hard to be a more hip ''30 Something''.
- It''s really bad. I''ve seen quite a few episodes. I''d feel sorry for Peter Krause but he''s terrible in it too. It''s pretty much as the OP describes and all of the actors are the douchiest most mannered versions of themselves. Dax Shepherd is punchable. The family scenes are so contrived and then the episode usually ends at a giant wedding worthy outdoor banquet under twinkling white lights and paper lanterns. The singsongy valley girlish uptalky line readings with studied stutters may cause seizures.
- I just cannot support the career of Dax Shepherd in any way.
- The shirtless scenes of Sam Jaeger make it all worth it!
- My mother LOVES the show! I really hope they cancel it so I won''t have to keep hearing about it from her.
- LOL R3! They''re doing that stupid line reading shtick at the end of the show a''la Grey''s Anatomy? I''m so sick of that trend.
- I watch and really enjoy it. It''s well done.
- While I find Dax Shepard and his whole storyline as annoying as everyone does, I do watch and enjoy the show. It''s got a good cast and can be both amusing and touching. And it''s great to see Bonnie Bedelia again!
- I love it. I like Peter Krause and I used to love the Gilmore Girls so I enjoy Lauren Graham as well. I also like the Good Wife so I usally watch one and then watch the other OnDemand later.
- It looks like one of those sappy shows a la "Judging Amy" or "Gilmore Girls" with a few more male actors thrown in. And when I see that terrible actor with a bad 90''s hair parted in the middle I feel like punching the screen.
- My mom likes it too.
- I love my family but all that together time is really unrealistic. I keep waiting for their spouses to say something like "Why do you spend so much time with your siblings? Are you fucking?" I mean it''s constant and elaborate togetherness. I do like Ann (her?) from Arrested Development. Her proximity to the other uptalking and hammy adults really makes her shine. The little Aspergers afflicted child is fucking birth control.
Now I''m craving a Mayonegg.
- Surprisingly to me, I enjoy the show too. It''s very mellow and the plotlines are very lowkey. It''s like Brothers & Sisters but with more day to day type situations.%0D\
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It''s sort of a cozy Gilmore Girls type show but I like it. Maybe it''s just because I''m a lonely single guy in his 40s craving family at this juncture?
- Sam Jaeger is a GOD!
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- I think the best one is Amber (Mae Whitman); she''s a fine actress when she''s given something good to work with.
- It is like Brothers & Sisters, only written by humans not software.\
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A couple episodes ago Sam Jaeger had something I''ve never seen on network: A hard on.\
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He played a scene where he was on top of his wife, fucking, and then they ran to their daughter''s room. When he sat on the bed, he had a hard on. He looked down at it. There was a cut and suddenly the blanket that had been behind him was on his lap.
- I watching to see whether or not Lauren Graham''s son is gay.
- I enjoy it too. There is a lot of talent in the cast, but it can be annoying. Monica Potter''s character is so uptight! That screaming Aspergers kid is out of control sometimes too. I didn''t like Dax Shepard at first but he''s grown on me. There is a lot to like and it can sometimes be very funny.
- I was happy to see Michael B. Jordan on the show.
- I actually watch the show with my wife. Its not bad as a soap opera goes. However, Dax Shepherd needs to shave off that disgusting patchy ass beard, and wash the filthy oil outta his hair. I really like Bonnie B character but I admit i'm glad that they ended the relationship between the young girl and the former drunk black dude as I could not stand that storyline.Otherwise the show is pretty decent.
- Peter Krause plays the same character he always plays: the pretty, self-involved straight man who thinks his shit doesn't stink even though it usually reeks.
Lauren Graham is the female version of Peter Krause.
Bonnie Bedelia is great but the plots are contrived and this family spends way too much time together.
- Eww. I wouldn't look twice at the 'god' Sam Jaeger on the street. And yes, I would throw him out of bed.
- I watched most of the first season hoping it would get better. Whoever called it mellow is on the right track. I'd call it sedate. Everything about it is just so...mediocre. A fine cast stuck with bland writing and cliche situations. And even though it had continuing story arcs it still felt like they tried to resolve everything neatly by the end of the hour. And yes, way too much family together time - though "Brothers and Sisters" was guilty of the same contrivance.
I wanted to like it because the movie "Parenthood" is one of my favorites.
- Why does NBC have such a hardon for this shit show? First of all, it's semi-based on a movie that's like 20 years old. Next, it's ratings haven't been that great. It was taken off the air for a long hiatus, and is now back. It's just CRAP and I cannot understand why it keeps coming back??
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- Bonnie Bedelia always sounds as if she's high or slightly drunk.
- Wasn't the late 80s film bad enough?
- [quote]Bonnie Bedelia always sounds as if she's high or slightly drunk.
Maybe she and Craig T. Nelson share a joint before their workday starts?
The young man who plays the child living with mild autism does a very fine job in his role and he is an elementary schoolboy I think. He has a very fine talent.
This show is just pure melodrama.
- I'm assuming the only reason NBC keeps it on, is because they have NOTHING to replace it with.
I LOVED the first season, and have watched off and on since then.
I like most of the actors, the writing is the problem for me.
- People want to believe that being a parent, even with all of its downsides, is a worthwhile life. The research says otherwise. This horrible show is a way for those people to shake their heads at the characters in sympathy.
- I like this show a lot, even though it can be too precious and annoying (all that naturalistic talking over one another while cloying acoustic sensitive music plays in the background).
- Weren't they trying to make Monica Potter happen a few years back? The next Julia Roberts.
- "Dax Shepherd is punchable."
Best thing I've read all day.
- Oh please. This show is Brothers and Sisters without gay themes. DL wanted to offer up Patty Duke for awards because of Brothers and Sisters.
Same formula, same writing, same themes, just for straights.
- [quote]DL wanted to offer up Patty Duke for awards because of Brothers and Sisters.
Oh. No. You. [italic]Di'n't.[/italic]
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- [quote]I'm assuming the only reason NBC keeps it on, is because they have NOTHING to replace it with.
Ahem.
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- That looks like a really interesting show R36. Why was it never aired?
- After watching the trailer for Awake, I'm not as excited to see it, anymore.
Looks confusing.
- It's low-key, but good.
Both Lauren's and Peter's characters are different from those that they played on GG and 6FU.
- Peter's character on 6FU always thought his life and his problems were always the most important. His character thought that knocking up some woman was something he invented. (It was especially wonderful to watch his character try to justify the boring relationship he had with wackadoodle.) His character didn't think anyone should judge him and that he was always right.
Sounds like Parenthood to me.
- Outside of Dax - who I can't stand unless he's interacting with the whole family - I love the show. Great acting, touching moments and while yes, a tv drama, it does feel authentic at times in terms of family relations (yeah, it gets a little cutesy, but there's an undercurrent of honesty in it all).
- PK's role on Parenthood is more like David (Michael Hall) than it was like Nate on 6FU. PK's Parenthood character is the uptight business man who takes care of everybody - that's not Nate.
- Lauren Graham recently on Conan. So adorable
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- THIS SHOW IS SO FUCKING TERRIBLE!!!! ITS THE WORST SHOW ON TV! 45 MINS OF PEOPLE TALKING OVER EACH OTHER ( ITS LIKE A TOURETTES PERSONS NIGHTMARE) AND THAN 15 MINS OF CRYING! GOD I HATE THIS SHOW SO MUCH ITS THE SAME THING EVERY WEEK! HOW COULD ANYONE STOMACH WATCHING THIS CRAP EVERY WEEK????? HERES AN EPISODE: 5 PEOPLE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME FOLLOWED BY CRYING AND HUGGING YAYYYYYY! GREAT SHOW NOT!
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- I heart thus show. I'm watching it right now.
I also heart Jason Ritter. Ray Roman I'm on the fence.
- There's more crying this season.
- Is Greg Berlanti involved with this show in any capacity since it has that tacky quality so typical of his writing?
- I watched it twice. Hate it. Why anyone who has kids would want to watch a show that repeats the most stressful part of parenting escapes me. Arguments with attitude drenched teenagers, screamIng babies and spousal arguments. I mean seriously I do not get it.
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- I watch for Lauren Graham.
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- Yes, Lauren is gorgeous. Erika Christensen is also nice to look at.
- Sam Jaegar and Erika Christensen interview
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- Oh dear in two weeks we are getting a very special Christmas episode I'm already crying.
So Jason Ritter dumped Lauralei and we are stuck with Ray Ramono.
I'm crying again.
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- Is Dax Shepard capable of closing his mouth? Every time I see a photo of him or he is on screen, his simian maw is wide open.
- That town hall meeting with shepherd was beyond nuts. He is quite awkward. I have a hard time believing joy Bryant would fall for him.
- I can't watch it. The promos featuring Ray Romano as a romantic interest gross me out.
- Why is Lauren Graham so bloated?
- It's the very special episode DL peeps.
Get watching
- R56 - I think she just gained a little weight.
- I got a little verklemph at the end.
- It's like a glittery bowel movement wrapped in a vomit crêpe.
Avoid.
- I like this show. It is a little like thirtysomething, and nothing like the Parenthood movie, which I barely remember (I only know I saw it because it came out squarely in the middle of my "Must See Everything Keanu" period.
I don't love it. The Bravermans aren't my favorite TV family. Zeke drives me up a wall, but it could partly be because Craig Nelson's an archconservative. Lauren Graham's character makes me want to leave the room at times.
But I love Mae Whitman. She really is my favorite actress of her generation, maybe except for Emma Stone. I like Monica Potter, who I thought was such a twit on a David E. Kelley lawyer show.
And most of all, I love Peter KRAUzah. I'll really watch anything he's in. He made me cry tonight.
- Mae is a delight, and she's really grown into the role.
I like these characters more than the ones on thirtysomething.
- Wow. Pretty ignorant you all are or super immature. It is a fabulous show and deals with the realities of what real life brings to the table. It not a show for closed minded morons like everyone on here bashing the show. The show is great and has an intense and very realistic story line.
- Like "Thirtysomething"???
More like "Late Fortysomething".
- The older sibs are in their early 40s, the younger sibs are in their early to mid 30s.
- Peter Krause is turning 49 this year and Lauren Graham is turning 46 in March.
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- Peter Krause used to be cute, but now he looks like Rick Steves without the glasses:
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- Drew should have been gay.
- R66 - yes, but they both look a decade younger and play slightly younger characters.
- Kristina asked Adam when he had his first boner. And she used the word "boner."
- This is a quality show.
- How did Adam respond, R70?
- He said he was the same age as Max (their autistic son), who is about 13.
- Gasp! Abortion!!
- Who should Sarah choose? Jason Ritter or Ray Ramono?
- [quote]He said he was the same age as Max (their autistic son), who is about 13.
That seems a little late. I remember having boners as early as 5. I probably had them younger, but I remember an incident at 5 when I was turned on by seeing a friend's father nude. I needed to pee and walked into the bathroom. He had just showered and was drying off. He was handsome too in a Clark Kent nerdy glasses way, which I had noticed even at that tender age. Anyway, I must've been staring at his cock 'cause he asked me what I needed and that's when I looked up. I didn't say anything and just ran out, my desire to pee gone. But I had a little stiffy.
- Who cares, R76?
- [quote]Who should Sarah choose? Jason Ritter or Ray Ramono?
Jason Ritter, even if he is too good for her.
- Lauren Graham has come out as a compulsive eater and has put on 40 pounds in the last year because she's stopped taking stimulants/doing coke to suppress her appetite. She's trying to work on the emotional causes of her eating. That's all well and good but my God does she look fat recently.
- Of course she should choose Ray Romano. They just fit together better and have better chemistry. Jason Ritter looks like her son.
- [quote]But I love Mae Whitman. She really is my favorite actress of her generation
Her?!?
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- How old is Christina Erickson's character supposed to be? She's 30 in real life. That means she would have been 26 during the first season with a 7 year old daughter, a giant house, and supporting a stay-at-home dad. Seems unbelievable.
- What do we think of new series regular Ryan?
I can't believe they made him go into the ocean in briefs and Mae had to straddle him. She definitely felt every inch of his penis through that thin wet fabric.
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- Maybe because I don't have any first hand experience with autism, but it seems like Max's parents need outside help in terms of strategies to deal with him. I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought in earlier episodes/season they had a counselor or would refer to one. Now he just acts out and they wring their hands. Perhaps it's an accurate characterization, but it's frustrating to watch.
Ditto with the adopted kid. He misbehaves and Julia sort of throws her hands in the air and leaves the room. Um, okay.
- R84, they did have a behavioral therapist named Gaby. She worked with Max in the first and second seasons. Then Crosby seduced her and slept with her because he was having problems with his fiancée, Jasmine. After that, Gaby quit and went to work for another family. I don't recall if Adam and Kristina considered getting another therapist, but they did decide to mainstream him. Max is now attending regular middle school.
As for Julia, she's at her wits' end. Two weeks ago, in the episode when Victor threw the metal bat at the glass door, she physically forced him to his room. And in the latest episode, when he was refusing to come to dinner and they discovered he had been hoarding candy in his room, Julia snatched the candy from him (while he sat on the bed, defiantly), which knocked him off-balance and he did a face-plant on the floor. He anonymously called the police to report the "abuse," which just sent her through the roof. The episode ended with the adoption agent stopping by and Julia saying she doesn't think she can go through with the finalization.
- Good, they should send that little brat back. Hopefully they won't say no refunds.
- That little adopted kid and Max are both obnoxious, are Asberger's people really that bad? Max seems to be just a slightly higher functioning Autistic.
- Max is easily the most annoying character on that show. And no, not all children with Aspergers are that bad. My godson has been diagnosed with it since age 4 and trust me if he behaved like Max, his parents would have back handed him into next week. He is very intelligent, does get over over-focused onto certain subjects (i.e. clouds, weather, pencils) , does have some impulse control issues (that's getting better as he gets older and his parents work on him with it) and does need to be reminded to play with other kids because if left to his own devices, he won't think to ask or join in. But he is a well behaved kid.
I think Parenthood, overall, is worth watching. The characters that need to be improved are definitely Max and Sarah. I really want to like Sarah but I just can't. Monica Potter is doing fantastic work this season.
- Max is based on writer/creator/executive producer Jason Katim's own son, who was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. I've also read that not all people with Asperger's react the same way. So maybe Max is written as Katim's son is.
- You'd think a show like this would be Emmy bait, but it's been nominated once (the marginal "guest actor") and it lost.
- [quote]You'd think a show like this would be Emmy bait, but it's been nominated once (the marginal "guest actor") and it lost.
I know! I was surprised to learn that it's been overlooked by the Emmys. It's got some great acting and writing, IMO. I don't know why Jason Ritter got a Guest Actor nom last year. He's been serviceable, but nothing great. I thought that Richard Dreyfus as Zeeke's playwright friend and old war buddy in Season 2 was more impressive, but he didn't get a nod.
- R81, yes.
R82, you mean Erika Christensen, who plays Julia. Hers isn’t the only “Huh?” age on Parenthood. According to what Kristina (the character) told the guy at the hotel, she had to have been pregnant with Haddie when she was a teenager (assuming Haddie didn’t skip two grades).
R83, yes Ryan is hot. *Poor* Mae Whitman having to feel Matt Lauria’s penis on her leg (if what I mean by "poor" is “Nice work if you can get it”).
R84, R85, R86, R87: I wish they’d send Victor back. That was no accident, the way he threw that bat at Sydney (who IMO was the most obnoxious child on prime time before Victor’s arrival, but still…)
I don’t mind Max, and I think the kid who plays him is doing a great job. Plus we got to hear someone say “balls” on primetime network TV for what I think was the first time ever.
- [quote]I don’t mind Max, and I think the kid who plays him is doing a great job. Plus we got to hear someone say “balls” on primetime network TV for what I think was the first time ever.
Yes! Max can be insufferable, but he was hilarious in the last episode, when he was so matter-of-fact about his puberty when his grandparents came over to visit and his mom was preparing dinner. "Hi, grandpa, I've got pubic hair." That whole scene was hilarious! And later when he told his mom he washed his armpits, butt, and balls like his dad told him to. LOL! Major kudos to the young actor who was able to deliver ALL his dialogue this week with sincerity and without cracking a smile.
- That's because the actor really have Asperger's. It isn't acting.
- No, he doesn't.
- It's criminal that 666 Park was cancelled and yet the networks keep garbage like this, and Revolution.
- Julia:
Call me.
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- R96 You, clearly, are a connoisseur of all that is fine, nuanced and profound.
- R94, no, Max Burkholder does not have Asperger's. Only Max Braverman, the character.
R96, while I agree it would be nice to have a show with Dave Annable in it, 666 Park Avenue was a true turd of a program.
I wish ABC would have put Revenge on at 10. It got so crapulent, I started watching The Good Wife in real time, with the thought that I'd watch Revenge online. But it turned out I don't want to watch Revenge.
But 666 Park Avenue, ewwwww...
BTW, the building they used is the Ansonia, at 73rd (I think) and Broadway.
- R99: 666 was a turd BECAUSE Dave Annable was in it.
He is AWFUL in everything. He is such a bad actor. He has two facial expressions, neither interesting.
- It was very disappointing that Drew did not turn out to be gay.
- I agree with OP - this show is stupid.
- Oh, yeah, R101. Cute as can be.
Along that line, I was thinking when Max told Adam he didn't want to talk any further about how he was going to start to think of girls differently, that maybe it was because that's the way he's starting to think about *boys*.
- My favorite Parenthood moment was when Julia and her handsome husband were fooling around on their bed. He was just wearing boxers.
Their daughter came in the room and they sat up to talk to her.
I was shocked to see that he had a woody. My suspicion was confirmed when he was suddenly sitting with a blanket over his lap, which appeared from nowhere.
- Kristina's bald skin cap is so ridiculous...she looks like a light bulb or a space alien...it's a good show overall, although it IS ripe for parody...the over-earnest acoustic singer-songwriter music, the overlapping dialogue.
- I got that same inkling too, R103, especially when Zeke and Adam were really pushing the "you'll start thinking about girls differently" thing and Max would have none of it.
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- R105: She does look like a light bulb!
- I love the music, R105. A respite from the crap they used to play on, say, Gossip Girl, is a lovely thing, however brief.
I heard the Lumineers' "Ho Hey" and Ben Gibbard's "Lady Adelaide" for the first time on Parenthood.
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- I hate shows about WWII. Can we get over it? I'm sick of Nazi uniforms, the holocaust, mushroom clouds, Battan death march, the Blitz, desert rats and the obligatory 3 second mention of the Russian front.
I've never watched one of these shows but goddamned PBS is always with the sky full of propellor planes and the white tombstones in Normandy.
Enough!
- Wrong thread, I think, R109.
- [quote]I love the music
I take exception with the theme song. I can't fast forward quickly enough to get past Bob Dylan's "singing."
- It is kind of jarring, R111, listening to Dylan bleat that out. I forget who my imprint version of "Forever Young" was by, but it wasn't Bob Dylan.
I like Bob Dylan. I have all his albums through Desire, but I can only listen to them in tiny doses.
- Ray Romano is hideously repulsive. He just looks filthy.
So, no, Sarah should definitely not choose him. Besides she still loves that boy!
- Ray Romano does look as if he smells really bad.
He is so unattractive, but it is so unbelievable that John Ritter's son would be hot for a bloated, older lesbian.
- Ray Romano. I could never watch the Raymond show because of him.
Sarah, choose Mr. Cyr for fuck's sake.
- The show is called Parenthood but all the children on this show are so obnoxious it would turn anyone off of the idea of becoming a parent.
- Last nights show. Dax' s ma in is a piece of work. Passive aggressive off the chains.
So Kristina gets a healthy vending machine and at the end Max is showered with skittles. Makes perfect sense.
Season finale. Who will lauralei choose?
- They said "balls" again. It was Joel's turn last night.
- Sarah should just find a nice woman. She might do very well as a later-in-life lesbian.
- R119, I'd much rather see her be with Jason Ritter than Ray Romano. She doesn't ping for me at all (not that I'm the final arbiter in matters Sapphic).
- I'd love to see Lauren Graham play a lesbian, but I don't see Sarah as one.
