I''m as gay as a picnic basket. But I will admit that there have been a few times where I''ve been turned on enough to fuck a woman. I''m definitely not bisexual though. It''s too rare an occurrence to want to do this. I know sexuality is fluid. I''m wondering if anyone else has had these moments?
I know I never have. Never touched a woman, never had the desire.
Look at this photo and tell me if you feel the same way.
I liked going down on a woman, honest. \
I just prefer the company of men, they smell better and are muscular and hairy and well, you know the rest.
Are you the "all gay guys love fucking women" troll?
[quote]I know sexuality is fluid.\
Only dumb whores and teenage girls say that bullshit!
love pussy; love sharing it with a man who turns me on.
[quote]I know I never have. Never touched a woman, never had the desire.\
I had to touch one once at my brother''s bachelor party.
14 to 19 = yes.\
20 to 53 = no.
"I''m definitely not bisexual though."%0D\
Yes, you are. If it''s a more-than-one-time thing, then you''re bi.
Curious OP how old are you?
I love fucking women... pussy just feels much better than ass. But I could never date a woman. We just don''t gel outside the bedroom - much prefer hanging out with male friends in a bar.
I enjoy occasional Hetero sex as long as all parties know the score.\
Exclusive Homos can be just as damning and judgemental as exclusive Hets...as we get older we might gravitate toward our preference (even a train stops eventually) but some of us like to explore.\
it''s a big world out there Ladies and Germs; enjoy the ride!!
Dora the Explorer
Are you German, R13? Why are you capitalizing everything?
I almost agree @12; my exWife always wanted me to fuck her ass but when ya got that pussy right there..Honey, Whyyy???\
On the other hand boy butt is sweet and a happy power bottom is as good as any pussy!!\
Ahhh decisions...decisions; do I have to choose just one?????\
I have to say the Palin pic is an improvement to her but an insult to the pussy!!
Relax and have fun
Whenever I fuck a chick I think I am doing the nastiest, most perverted, filthiest thing ever. We can be in the missionary position with the lights out and I will be thinking "I am the fuck pig of all time...no body is this fuckin'' nasty"
Heads Up People The Grammer Police [R15] Are Watching...everybody stay calm
Has somebody been putting a gun to your head r16?%0D\
Just say no.
LLLOOOOLLL [R16] I know, right???
Nope. Never. Nothing wilts my dick faster than the sight of a naked woman.
[R18] I think his point is that being a nasty fuck pig is still great fun in spite of ourselves...Margaret Cho once said that whenever she is eating pussy she is thinking "I CAN''T BELIEVE I''M EATING PUSSY" \
Humans are weird!! LOL
I fucked 4 different women between ages 18 and 22. I fucked 3 or 4 different men a month from age 19 to 37, and only 1 man, my beloved partner, since then.
There are some gay guys who are so promiscuous they''ll even fuck women sometimes. I guess the OP is one of them.
r16 made me laugh.
r12 = Roidney Santiago
Nope, never had the desire to do anything with a woman, just not wired that way. The idea of a gay guy having sex with a woman is just bizarre.
Don''t forget those promiscuous straight guys that let homos suck them off R23 men can be such dogs (except for you!!)
It happens to me too, OP, but I''ve never acted on it. Likely never will.
Yes, OP. Once every few years.
Once, but the pussy belonged to a skinny, flat-chested tomboy. Says it all, really.
I want to eat some FTM pussy so bad.
[quote]The idea of a gay guy having sex with a woman is just bizarre.\
That''s because such a guy is not gay.
I''ve watched so much straight pron that... it''s fun to watch a woman get fucked. But it''s the guy I''m focused on. I wouldn''t want to trade places with him. And girl-on-girl sex registers ''zero'' on my dick-o-meter. So..
I like it too. They are self lubricating and no waiting for her to douche.
Yes, in fact, it turns me on all the time, but I don''t consider myself bisexual because I''ve never fallen for a woman, and cock turns me on A LOT more.%0D\
I''m very easily turned on, though.%0D\
You sound like a whore, R35.
"...no waiting for her to douche."%0D\
You wait for guys to douche before you have anal sex?
[quote]You wait for guys to douche before you have anal sex?%0D\
And you don''t?%0D\
I thought I'd find out from REAL people what pussy is really like. And oh my, look at this link I found. I especially like this one guy's response:%0D
[italic]As a very attractive and sexually active man, I can tell you that most all p*ssy stinks, at least to some degree. Actually, of the hundreds and hundreds of pee holes I've delved into, only a handful (no pun intended) have actually smelled and tasted good. In fact, a few were even akin to "nectar". However, some are just plain funky, and a few are rancid. And age doesn't seem to matter. I'm reminded of a young lass, of about 17, I was 30. She was a beautiful girl with gorgeous round hips. She had small but pert breasts, and a face of an angel. Sexually she was quite accomplished. However, her p*ssy was funky smelling, so needless to say I enjoyed her exquisite fellatio more than my exquisite cunnilingus. Which, by the way, I am a master of and enjoy immensely. Conversely, I used to pound an older gal of about 50, who wasn't bad at all. But, sexually, she was such a vanilla disappointment, that I had to dump her old hide. Besides, she was a real head case, and would often steal from me. BUT, the skankiest hole I ever smelled was from a young lass on a cruise ship. She was an employee, a hairdreser in fact, and I was making great time with her and her girlfriend in the ships club- it was Carnival Cruise Lines' "Ectasy". As we three were about to head back to my stateroom for a threesome, her friend (sadly the cuter of the two) bowed out for fear of being caught. You see, it is forbidden for the employees to fraternize with the guests. Let alone screw them. So here we were, me and my bird. She led us around some back way (to avoid being seen). We sat on the bed and and started our foreplay at which time I put to use a little maneuver I've developed. That is where I play with a girls' p*ssy and get a little of her juice on my finger- just a dab mind you- and then hug her. While I'm hugging her, I raise my finger to my nose and take a whiff. Just to see what I'm in for. Well, in this instance, I was shocked, repulsed, sickened, and maybe even transported to another time- one where reason doesn't exist. You see, her p*ssy was RANCID. And I don't just mean stinky, I mean - make you vomit RANCID!!! Here's the description I have come up with for my friends, who still roar with laughter at the story today. "Imagine a sea otter has gorged itself on mussels and small fish, so gorged in fact, that it dies. Then, said otter washes ashore where it lays in the sun, basking and bloating for two to three weeks. Now, as that bloated, rotting, otter corpse is just laying there decaying, you walk up and poke your finger into it's gut. The hot air escapes in a whoosh. The funk rolls out out, and fluids ooze from the aperture as you swish you finger around in it. Now, pull it out and take a good long whiff. So, wanna f*ck that? I didn't think so. If that's how your p*ssy smells, get immediate attention and don't pass GO. Or, your man and his buddy's will be telling a story like this about on the internet--- And they might even use your name--- maybe even a picture![/italic]
R39, did you really have to italicize that shit? I couldn''t even get through all the "lass" crap. Thanks for nothing!
Gay guys love to fuck hot chicks.
I''m sick of bisexuals trying to pass themselves off as gay.
r39, the fact that this guy doesn''t know the difference between a woman''s "pee hole" and a vagina makes me doubt the whole story.
r32/r42, thank you. That bugs the heck out of me. Some guys insist on calling themselves gay when they are clearly bisexual, I''m convinced this is where the whole misconception that ''you can choose to be gay/homosexuality can change'' arose.\
Someone linked to an article recently from some Real World alum who came out as bi. Throughout the article the guy vacillated between referring to himself as bi and then gay. Finally, the interviewer pointed out the discrepancy to him. The Real World guy (sorry, I have no idea of his name) stated that it was fine to call yourself gay and still have sex with women but that there was no way he could logically refer to himself as straight and still have sex with men. So basically the implication is that the word ''straight'' actually means something and the word ''gay'' is just some amorphous catch-all phrase for any one with same-sex attraction. WTF?!\
If you''re bi, cool, own it. But don''t confuse the situation by identifying as gay when you know that isn''t the case. Simple.
The guy who wrote that faux sex diary at R39 is a closet case...who loves to trade "true" stories with his "straight" pals.
OP makes the mistake a lot of bi men make. Because they are flaming queens, they think that absolves them of being bisexual, which is stupid. It also works the other way round, because some bi guys are butch and into "straight" things, they think that also clears them from being bi.\
You are a flaming camp bisexual OP, deal with it.
R44, how about when some guys refuse to use any labels for there sexuality? Don%E2%80%99t you love this new trend that is springing up? eyes roll. I knew this guy, which I have mentioned on another thread before, who said, I can't relate to straight guys, and I'm certainly not like gay men. So asked the guy, what are you? Bi? he said if you want to call me that. I asked him, are you ever going to get married? he said, well? I don't think so, but if I do I have to have a guy on the side because I love men. I said well that means your gay! he said, well if you want to call me that, eyes roll.
He also said that he is mad at the gay community because he gets reverse discrimination by gay people. I said, well your one big insult to them. He said, you have no idea what you are talking about because you don't understand people like me who can't put a label on their sexuality. I said, yes I can, they are called cowardly people who are really gay, and who are full of crap, BIG TIME. He was pissed off with me. I don't care how pissed he was. What it boils down to, he was gay and he just wanted to be accepted in society. Also, he didn't want to admit he was gay. I think he was a complete jerk because I think people like him use people, which are really low lives.
r47, I think the whole ''no labels'' thing is just another way of saying bisexual.
Actually, the guy you describe sounds like a textbook case of bisexuality, r47.
Most gays are really bisexuals!
r50, you may be on to something.
I was joking r51 and I knew some teenage girl like you would run in here and agree with me..and you did.
Right on cue
I think many gays would like to fuck a woman but either have not had the opportunity or courage to do so with the right woman.\
Not all of course but many.
myself included in this group
I''m with r33. So much straight porn and fantasizing about straight guys as a teenager definitely made me completely comfortable with pussy but never made me want to fuck, touch or put my mouth on one for any other reason than curiosity.%0D\
I''ve very often wish I HAD one - to see what it was like to have a horny straight guy going crazy over it. THAT is a turn on. Same with breasts. Would love to be the object of lust for some hot straight guys.
So r54, let me guess, you are really big into gay 4 pay porn? I always said guys who are into gay for pay are gay men who secretly want to be women.
Nope, I''m like 7-UP with respect to pussy: never had it, never will.
I''m secretly very turned on by straight guys. I don''t like it - but I grew up believing they were the "ideal" so that''s what gets me going.%0D\
Trying to fight that because I know it''s homophobic on many levels.
Wow -is DataLounge changing?
Usually when a discussion on this topic arises, an overwhelming amount of posts are adamant that bisexuality in men doesn't exist. Interesting that there's actually some discussion here and not bisexual bashing and statements that bisexuality is a myth.
Recent polls on attitudes toward gays, gay marriage, etc, have showed that younger people are more and more accepting of others' sexuality, and are more open-minded about sexual fluidity. It is older people, who will eventually die out, who are staunchly anti-gay and anti-gay marriage. The younger people do not care what labels people put on their sexuality or who they sleep with, even if it's both sexes. And, I think it's older gays, who grew up in a more anti-gay environment, who tend to dismiss bisexuality.
On topic, I'm in my 40s and have slept with more women than men, lived romantically/sexually with a man once and a woman once. Prefer pussy over ass for sexual sensation and satisfaction. Loved being tender and romantic with women in a sexual situation, but like the aggressive, animalistic feeling of being with a man. Turned on by cock and pussy. My masturbatory fantasies cut both ways and sometimes are exclusive. I went through a long period at the beginning of the century (wow that sounds ancient) jerking off constantly to Sarah Michelle Gellar (I can't even figure that one out). On the street both hot guys and hot women get my attention. My dreams involve men and women in both romantic and sexual situation, but oddly never men and women together. Never been in a three-some with a guy and girl. I think I'm totally different when having sex with each, and the sexual experiences are very distinctive from each other - at least for me. Never had a desire for a mixed three-way.
At the present time, I'm in a relationship with a woman and haven't had sex with a man in about two years. I've cheated on her once early on with another woman, but it was a once in a lifetime offer that I had to take advantage of. I do have problems with monogamy, though I'd love to be faithful.
So, OP, I do understand you being turned on by pussy and say "go for it" if that's what you want to do. Don't worry about how people will judge you - and they will - please yourself. If you can't live your life your own way, then what's the point?
I''m gay and strongly attracted to men, but I have had fairly long-term relationships with women, from time to time. They seem to have more to give, emotionally, than the gay guys I attract. Sex with the women is wonderful. The pussy feels so great on my dick. Plus, fucking a woman seems to give more mutual pleasure. The woman has an active role, moving with her own thrusting rhythm, as opposed to the mainly passive guys who just lie there, while I fuck them.
r59, you''re exactly the type of guy I was referring to at r44. You know you are attracted to both sexes and yet you isist on confusing matters by saying you are gay. Why? Just because you are attracted to men that does not make you gay. From your own posting you clearly are also attracted to and enjoy having sex with women, so why muddy the waters by calling yourself gay? I don''t get it. You''re bisexual. Just because you may be more attracted to men (although, to be honest, from your posting it seemed like the other way around) that doesn''t negate your bisexuality. You''re attracted to both sexes, you''re bisexual, own it. Simple.
[quote]The woman has an active role, moving with her own thrusting rhythm, as opposed to the mainly passive guys who just lie there, while I fuck them.\
I think you need to find better bottoms.
Jeez, r59, don''t be a tard, you are bi, deal with it.
"[R39], the fact that this guy doesn''t know the difference between a woman''s "pee hole" and a vagina makes me doubt the whole story."%0D\
I hate to be pedantic but you do know pee ends up all over the vagina right? It has nowhere else to go. %0D\
Trust me I own one. They''re not always that pleasant.%0D\
Male or female, we all smell and sweat.
r59 I concur, you are a loon bucket.%0D\
Not on this Earty are you ''gay''. You sound quite frankly as if you would give up men tomorrow. You at least make yourself sound bi with a preference for females. %0D\
Just accept it and stop calling yourself gay because gay men are those further back who have said they have zero interest in women. If you are even sleeping with women, let alone rationalising a ''nicer'' utopia with them, you are NOT gay.%0D\
You''re probably nearer straight. Sorry. %0D\
Earty = Earth.
What''s with the gay Nazis who want to expel anyone who is not gay enough to suit them?
[quote]gay men are those further back who have said they have zero interest in women%0D\
Can it be anymore absolute?
r66, it''s not some attack on bi men. It might seem silly but it does actually matter. If a bisexual identifies as gay and then enters into relationships with women it can give credence to the commonly held myths that homosexuality is a choice or that it can change. All I''m saying is that if you''re attracted to both sexes then you''re bi. It''s simple common sense.
Oh relax R68. Your insecurities are showing. Mostly you just sound threatened by other people''s sexuality. Get over it.
Whether or not you find members of the opposite sex repulsive probably has more to do with your personal history with women rather than your sexual orientation. There are plenty of straight men who think sex is evil and dirty and that any woman who would do it for reasons other than getting pregnant has to be a whore.
What r60 said! No one cares if you swing both ways but why don''t you label yourselves properly?
I would tend to agree with you, R68. I knew someone similar to OP and he claimed to be 100% gay despite the fact that he''s had sex with women, enjoyed it, and gets off watching straight porn on a regular basis.
"I hate to be pedantic but you do know pee ends up all over the vagina right? It has nowhere else to go."%0D\
What in the fuck are you talking about? No - pee doesn''t get "all over your vagina" any more the shit gets all over your balls unless you''re a filthy pig who doesn''t wipe your ass. %0D\
r63 = gay guy with a fear of pussy.\
Like dicks are any different hon?
I often wonder if guys who have to sleep with women, who are shaped like 12 year old boys, really prefer men.
"I''ve cheated on her once early on with another woman, but it was a once in a lifetime offer that I had to take advantage of. I do have problems with monogamy, though I''d love to be faithful."%0D\
You sound like a nightmare, R58. Please become fully straight forever - none of us want you.
I know I'm going to tick people off, but I think guys who are bi are just really deeply in the closet. Also, I think bi guys are real users of people. At least gay or straight guys want more of a one to one commitment relationship. In contrast, I am aware there are guys who are gay and/ or straight who are players and cheat. However, bisexual guys have a wider playing field to choose from to cheat. Another thing, I'm so tired of bi guys feeling connected with gay men when they can live a life as a straight, acceptable, married, man, and yet they bitch about the problems they have in society. Sorry, but its not the same.
It is annoying to me that so called, bisexual men are screaming about gay marriage when they can get married any time they want to. They just like to be part of the controversial moment that is happening in history. I'm going to say something else that is going to piss off people. I really think bisexual guys have more of a choice. Also, I know a lot of females, and they would never ever date nor marry a guy who was bisexual.
One last thing, there was a study on bisexual men who were shown gay porn and straight porn, and the studies showed the y were much more sexually excited when watching gay porn, and less sexually aroused when watching straight porn. I had that study and I don%E2%80%99t have it anymore. I swear it was done by a well-credited source. I should have saved that information.
Bisexuality in men only exists when it suits DLers.
[quote]but you do know pee ends up all over the vagina right?\
LOL. No it doesn''t.
Me and a really hot guy and his girlfriend or wife, maybe...though it hasn''t ever happened.
pussies give me a hard ass boner but i could never be with a chick lol\
and im 100%gay well i guess haha relationship-wise
So you don''t have to wipe then, R79?
R82? The vagina is internal.
Yes, OP, I am like you. I consider myself gay but have slept with two women and would have slept with more if the situation had presented itself. I like women''s bodies. Men turn me on more, and more generally, but women turn me on too. I don''t call myself bi because there is a whole segment of gay men who attack anyone who says they''re bi as being a closeted gay man. So, I just don''t do it. It doesn''t matter to me what people label me anyway. I know what is sexy and what isn''t.
OP, in the mindset of the typical DLer you''re not bi - there are no bisexual men - you are a closet heterosexual and you are in denial, soon you will be fucking pussy night and day
Let me guess, OP: Milla Jovovich?
R81, I think I know you by the way you type. Did you take a little trip to SLO tonight?
Every once in a while I like to fuck a really fat woman with large pendulous breasts. Eating pussy is good. Sucking a big fat tits is better. But no way would I want any sort of intimate emotional involvement with a woman. Never.
Thanks guys for your testimonies.%0D\
For once the Gay Nazis have had to shut their clam!%0D\
I find guys who claim they are 100% gay quite repulsive and bigotted.%0D\
Sex is sex, whether you have it alone, with a human being an animal or a thing! I had a friend who liked to fuck his suitcase. %0D\
You can be attracted to a man or a woman, it depends of the circumstances. I hate stuck-up people gay or hetero. Heteros who claim that homosexuality is "a sin" or gays who say a woman is "repulsive".%0D\
But what disgusts me most is to read that "bisexuality in men doesn''t exist".%0D\
Bigotted bullshit! Everyone was bisexual in Antiquity.%0D\
it''s monotheist religions and cultures which turned us into gays and heteros, smothering our real nature.
BIsexuality is the Future.
Everything R89 says in life will be dragged down by his suitcase anecdote.
The suitcase anecdote is absolutely true.%0D\
The guy loved his suitcase!
R90 is a suitcase hater.
How about those Jets.
The suitcase-phobes on this board make me absolutely sick! You cannot be 100% gay and own multiple suitcases and then bitch about marriage inequality. Also, the lining in suitcases does not get wet with pee because it is internal. Suitcases also feel way better than attache bags, but I can only enjoy a good suitcase if a woman is watching.
Sorry R89 but you sound like this bisexual jerk that I know who says everyone! and I mean EVERYONE on the planet is bisexual. Please! cut the crap! At least gay and straight people are much more straightforward and honest with their sexuality. I'm 100% attracted to men and only men. If you can't accept my honesty well that is your problem not mine. It%E2%80%99s a joke how bisexuals whine how they are discriminated against, and they are treated badly in society the same way as gay people are treated. Bisexuals can marry, have children, and live straight lives. Bisexuals have a choice, but gay people don't have really a choice. Don't blame gay people who have the balls to be honest with their sexuality verses playing the musical closet game. Trust me, I am aware of a lot of so called "bisexual people" who come to a final realization like a light bulb turned on all of a sudden that they are really gay. They have a tough time accepting that they are really gay. Its another form of hiding, and many have claimed that they have used the bisexual label as a cover to an extent.
Also, you have a lot of nerve claiming gay men find women repulsive. That is a contorted statement because must gay men have expressed that they are not sexually attracted to women, period. I want to point out that bisexuals are selfish. And as far as putting down women, bisexual men have no right to point the finger at gay men in this category when bisexuals use women as sex objects and dump them when they are done getting their jollies off of women. Bisexual seem like they fit in the category as many, not all straight men. That is worse than some who find having sex with the opposite sex repulsive. This is not unusual and not exclusive to some gay men. Many people from various sexual orientations are repulsive by some form of sexual expression or another.
BTW, the same bisexual jerk that I have pointed out in the first paragraph, said, he had sex with men and women to use them to figure himself out. I asked him if he hurt people along his sexual journey? he said yes. He said many women fell in love with him, but he told them he had to break up their relationships because he had to figure out who he was, and he grew out of the need for pussy at the time and needed dick. And then his sexual pendulum went back to as he referred to women as pussy. BTW, it was so charming how he described men and women as pussy and dick. Also, he later expressed that he was just really horny. Now that is really degrading, sleazy, and bottom of the barrel disturbing. What is so hard for bisexual people to understand is that human beings are not there to be used, and to be disposed of after they are done with them because they are trying to%E2%80%9D figure themselves out%E2%80%9D.
One last thing, I asked this guy if he would ever marry? he said he didn't think so, and if he did he would have to have dick on the side because he couldn%E2%80%99t do with out it. Having sex with a guy was a priority 1 yet he considered at the time he was bisexual. That makes a lot of sense. He later discovered he was really gay, and he decided he did not want to marry a woman because he said you can't have your cake and eat it at the same time too.
Sorry for being so annoyingly preachy, but I'm tried of the nerve of bisexual people who get pissed off at gay people. Bisexuals have major issues, and they use the dam blame game on gay people! In contrast, in reality, it%E2%80%99s their fault because they don't have balls.
Bisexuals have the right to live, dear gay man%0D\
It''s pure jealousy on your part.
SOME gay men are such bigots!
R96, Oh please! Jealousy?! LOL! I don''t have the remotest jealously. I just don''t like BS its evident you do and you are easily swayed by BS. Thank you for a good laugh because your comment is hilarious.
Do not protest too much, darling!
In my teens I did girls. 20''s men. \
30''s both...I find myself leaning towards women more and more for sex.
"Only dumb whores and teenage girls say that bullshit!"\
I went the other way: boys first in my teens, then my first girlfriend at college.%0D\
Since then (12 years ago) I''ve had men and women in more or less equal numbers. I can''t really say what I like best, "cock or pussy", it''s just different.%0D\
I''m attracted to a person first. I''m the sort of guy who doesn''t like anonymous hookups, I need to know the person a bit before jumping into bed.%0D\
I don''t feel obliged to choose but I guess I''ll end up with a woman because I want kids.
Gay men have biological kids without giving up and going hetero.
[quote] Are you the "all gay guys love fucking women" troll?%0D\
It''s "Gay guys love to fuck hot chicks."
Have you ever noticed that the gay guys who insist that bisexuality doesn''t exist always seem really angry about it? Maybe it''s because they''re resentful that they aren''t bisexual.
R104 This board hosts a whole bevy of people who have anger issues over most aspects of sexuality. \
They get furious when various topics are introduced and cannot abide anyone who thinks differently than they do.
[quote]I''m 100% attracted to men and only men.\
Just because you are doesn''t mean all other gays are, dipshit
Girls! Girls! You''re ALL pretty...
If you''re sexually attracted to women you aren''t gay, no matter what you call yourself.
Unless you''re a lesbian of course
r106, if that''s the case then those ''gays'' you speak of would actually be bisexual.
Love to fuck a pussy now and again but shes got to be a dirty girl huge tits big rubbery nipples and a nasty mouth
"I don''t feel obliged to choose but I guess I''ll end up with a woman because I want kids."%0D\
Ah yes, one of those people.%0D\
"I find myself leaning towards women more and more for sex."%0D\
Because women are always so much more horny and available than men.
Cutting Through Some Of The B.S.
OP = Johnny Weir
I'm like the opposite. I'm a woman who identifies as lesbian. Love pussy, love sex with women but I find "some" men attractive although they're usually text-book athletic types, and for me it's purely asthetic. I have no interest in the guy's personality, emotions or feelings and certainly have no interest in kissing him...yuk. I haven't had sex with a man for 15 years and don't think I ever will again as it's always a let down. The fantasy is appealing but I know it's never going to be like that in real life. I could never fall in love with a guy. With women it's completely different...I instantly have an emotional connection, want to know everything she feels, is, wants. I can feel my heart pounding and all that good stuff. Want to kiss her and look in her eyes for hours. With guys it's just the physical act of fucking that I find interesting.%0D
Basically, while I feel being gay is natural and nutured in the womb, as humans we are still hardwired to desire the opposite sex, and it manifests itself in different ways in all of us.
"as humans we are still hardwired to desire the opposite sex, and it manifests itself in different ways in all of us."\
Interesting observation. I shall think upon it.
"as humans we are still hardwired to desire the opposite sex, and it manifests itself in different ways in all of us."%0D\
This is actually quite offensive, and not at all true.
R89/101 etc... is the "EVERYONE IS BISEXUAL TROLL"\
He/she/it starts these threads about once a month. Read his reply at R101 and you will know he is trolling/flaming.
[quote]Also, you have a lot of nerve claiming gay men find women repulsive. %0D\
When I saw my first pair of boobies I got a raging hard on. I still love boobs. What does that make me?
I like boys
[quote]When I saw my first pair of boobies I got a raging hard on. I still love boobs. What does that make me?\
Chaz Buck Bono Angel
Its guys like R77 who make men say they''re gay when they''re really bisexual. Its this hatred and suspicion of bisexual men that make true bi men stay in the bisexual closet. All the jeers and bad mouthing towards bi guys has pushed them back in. Both the str8s and gays hate bi people. Now we hear some people here on DL saying that men who say they''re gay but who do enjoy sex with women are really bi. Well la di da! Who knew?!
Eek! and Yuck!
to each their own
R120 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. I can say I have $100 million dollars in the bank on DL and that doesn''t make it true. A couple of clicks of trolldar and I can tell you a few of these "bi guys" are trolls or straight girls.
Perhaps you are a tad bisexual.
[quote]Perhaps you are a tad bisexual.\
More like a tad EST.
Some gay men''s behavior towards bisexuals is as bigottedand intolerant as fundies''towards homos. %0D\
I know their subconscious motivation is jealousy but it makes me sick.%0D\
Those Nazis don''t deserve our hard-conquered freedom.%0D\
Let''s keep the Nazi references out of it, R125, but I agree with the first part of your statement. I''m sick of the bigotry towards bi people too.
I wished they were more honest with themselves and examined the deep reasons why they hate bisexual people.%0D\
Will they dare?
So, end of thread?%0D\
I think sexuality is very complex. The whole Gay/Straight/Bi thing is just society''s way of simplifying something that really is not that simple. I concede that for SOME people (myself included) it is that simple, but for many, it is not. Putting a label on it is just an easy and convenient way for others to wrap their mind around it.\
OP, I think that whatever turns you on is your business, and as long as you''re okay with it, then that''s what matters.
Trolldar R125/126/128/129 you''re straight woman homophobe or a shit stirring troll judging by some of your replies on other threads.\
Love eating, fingering and tantalizing pussy with a hot guy beside me, my arm around him, for hours. Especially love full bushed, pink pussy lips, attached to gorgeous sexually insatiable women with tan lines.\
Men turn me on more in general. Women are beautiful. Threeways are extremely exciting.
OP proves that homosexuality is a choice.
R131 proves he''s a self-hating gay nazi.
[quote]but for many, it is not.\
Oh bull. Bisexual is a catch all for everyone in between straight and homo but so many of them think they''re just too damn good to call themselves that. That and they love to roll around in the minutiae of their own bullshit.
R134, R125, you seem self hating, and you want gay people to be like you because you claim gay people are jealous of bisexuals when in reality we don''t give the slightest shit to be jealous of you. You bisexuals are pathetic users who want to believe gay people are miserably unhappy because they are not bisexual. Yeah right! Keep telling yourselves that in your own delusional mindsets. You need to believe this about gays to build up your low self-esteem. Also, on the contrary you%E2%80%99re the Nazis dictators because you are pouncing on people you don''t get sexually turned on in the slightest degree for the opposite sex. You sound like a bunch of beer drinking, bigoted straight guys.
Some of you sound like you have been abused by bisexuals.
1) Until gay men stop using bisexuality as a gateway of coming out of the closet as gay people will always be skeptical of bisexual men\
2) Most straight women will not date or marry someone who has a past sexual history with men. The ones that do almost always claim they didn''t know.\
3) Men who claim bisexual never cheat on their spouses with women it is always men. Not one man either but multiple guys.\
4) The most recent study of bisexual men found that more then 75% of them were gay and the rest exclusively straight. \
5) Trolldaring R134 proves what an unstable loon he/she/it is.\
6) Having sex with your high school girlfriend doesn''t make you bisexual if you haven''t fucked a woman in the 20 years since you graduated.
You really do have to wonder why R39 is so threatened.
R139 link please...who did this study?\
Who paid for it?\
How large was the sample group?\
The population of what countries participated?\
Where did they get their subjects?
R139 has an agenda.
R143 In reference to the population size of the study. At the time, I remember reading some details and thinking it had quite a large number of "people of color". Probably because they came from an urban population.%0D\
I would love to see a breakdown by race in that study. How many of the bi-identified guys who only responded to men were not white?%0D\
By the way, two guys were exactly 50-50 bi in response. One called himself straight and the other identified as gay.
Gay, straight, or lying?\
Again girls until gay men stop using the umbrella of bisexuality to eventually come out as gay, bisexuality will always be looked at with suspicion.\
I thought it was funny when Ricky Martin told Oprah he wasn''t bisexual but a gay man the fraus applauded with glee. That must of drove the "everyone is bi troll" into hysterics.
Speaking of Latino men, there seem to be a lot of them that are authentically bisexual, and open about it. I wonder if we would have different opinion about Bi guys if more real ones came out like a lot of Brazilians do. Ive noticed that PR dudes like Ricky are usually bi on their way to gay, but haven''t got with the right man to turn them completely out.
That would be me!
This is a pdf of the actual paper, since people refer to it so much. From the graphs I can see that 5 out of 38 self-reported gay men had a bisexual arousal pattern physically but didn''t acknowledge it. The researchers seem to have ignored this in their discussion, but it''s actually the most striking discrepancy they found between self-report and physical arousal.
[quote]This is a pdf of the actual paper, since people refer to it so much. From the graphs I can see that 5 out of 38 self-reported gay men had a bisexual arousal pattern physically but didn''t acknowledge it. The researchers seem to have ignored this in their discussion, but it''s actually the most striking discrepancy they found between self-report and physical arousal.\
Getting a hardon to straight porn doesn''t make you bisexual.
People who bitch and complain about bisexuality are just uncomfortable in their own skin. Some dude''s bisexuality doesn''t hurt you or make you any less gay. It is really time for people to forget these stupid biases and prejudices and let people live their lives on their own terms and not on the silly "house of cards" foundation in which you''ve built yours.
R149 Thank you!%0D\
Look at the center graph on page 582. Clearly, there are men who are in both the strongly and weakly bisexual range of actual arousal (.5 to -.5 and 1 to -1).%0D\
The problem is that most of these bi men identify as straight, so no one thinks they really exist.
R150 - they used gay and lesbian porn, not straight porn.
Here''s Meredith Chiver''s analogous study on women. %0D\
Interesting graphs on page 739 that show the results of the older male study contrasted with her new female study. Yes, women are more likely to have bisexual response but there obviously were some men who did as well.
[quote]This is a pdf of the actual paper, since people refer to it so much. From the graphs I can see that 5 out of 38 self-reported gay men had a bisexual arousal pattern physically but didn''t acknowledge it. The researchers seem to have ignored this in their discussion, but it''s actually the most striking discrepancy they found between self-report and physical arousal.\
The pattern wasn''t significant enough to report. Butch lesbians that watch gay porn don''t call themselves bisexual
They''re doing brain imaging studies now and look what Michael Bailey found, an actual bisexual man. Check out the video at the link.
R157, sometimes some scientists have a personal, biased agenda, and report misinformation or bogus information and pass it off as a legitimate scientific discovery. That is with many, many other scientific studies. However, not all studies are bogus of course. I think that video may be one sided because I''m sure there are scientists who would disagree with this scientist%E2%80%99s research, and who may refute his work. He presented a part of the research, but not the full body of research that was done. A computer screen showing the chemical changes of the brain with different sexual arousals seems limited. Is that just that the extent of his research? What is the whole picture of his study? I''m just keeping an opened mind because this might be a cut and paste video.
R158 Bailey may have an agenda, but it has been associated with being very skeptical of bisexuality in men. That''s why a change in attitude from him would be interesting.
[quote]I love fucking women... pussy just feels much better than ass. But I could never date a woman. We just don''t gel outside the bedroom - much prefer hanging out with male friends in a bar.\
So you''re... a straight man?
Ive always been curious and even though I havent done it. Ive fantazised about fucking a pussy real hard till I cum. I dont know about the rest though. I mean I think women are beautiful but im not turned on by the boobs nor the femininity, just the wet, inviting pussy is what turns me on when I watch straight porn. I would definitely try it if I evet get the chance!
Personally, I look at the whole spectrum of human sexuality from a Kinsey scale perspective. As it pertains to me personally, I am an 8 or a 9(homo). I find it hard to imagine me in an actual sex scenerio with a woman but I do respond to certain feminine asthetic qualities and I believe my overall personality is more akin to that of a female any way. Basicly, I cant get it up for a female unless there is an intense emotional connection between us. i have a very close female friend and she and i have shared alot over the years. i remember one time she and i were just having a bit of girl-talk and she uttered the phrase"ilove you" up until this point nothing remotley sexual had crossed my mind, obviously but when she said that i suddenly felt so turned on . my cock got so hard it hurt. she had to have felt this sudden rush of chemestry because before i knew it she was really putting the moves on me. ultimatly i couldnt perform it was just too weird. but she and i remain the best of friends and i have zero regrets about this awkward yet endearing encounter with her. i still have ocasional "omg!" moments when when a nie pretty lady expresses endearment toward me but if it does evolve into somthing sexual it's usually just awkward and doesnt really get too far . thanks for listening
I don't need a kinsey scale. I have never been sexually attracted to female humans. I find women as physically attractive as men, but I don't have the least attraction to them for sex. I have deeded my lifetimes share of womyn to Nan. We've never met, but she seems like a worthy person.
In my opinion, I feel The Kinsey Scale has some sort of anti-gay agenda attached to it.
Yes, pretty often. I love long legs, shapely butt and great pecs or breasts, so I'm turned on by attractive people with hot bodies no matter what their biological sex is.
There is no GAY. If it's pretty, fuck it.
I'm definitely bisexual but I never say it out loud because my gay peers would start bullying me and talking behind my back. There's a horrible "You're either with us or against us" mentality so even though i'm attracted to certain kinds of men, I was always wary of putting a pot into that fire because I also feel attracted to certain kinds of women, especially those with voluptuous bodies.
I know what I am, but I don't want anybody projecting their own sexuality problems onto me so I've learned to keep my mouth shut.
R167 = drama queen.
R167: True dat!
I learnt very early on to never ever tell my gay friends that I do sometimes crave & occasionally fuck pussy. It drives them literally insane with insecurity. Its no different than telling straight guys you sometimes fuck men. Same phobia, different name!
Strange as this may sound, the older I get, the more preferable pussy feels. In my 20s it was definately the other way around. Now, I've been in a 4 year relationship and every time I have asked for a "pass", its been for a girl (he thinks its guys though)
164 you might be right about that. however, the Kinsey Scale thing comes up a lot in what passes for debate on the topic of equality. all the rightwing psychopaths tend to characterize it as part of this "gay agenda" conspiracy thingy theyve been screaming about since forever. it just makes sense to me, thats all.
R39 was paying for it. R15 is right!
Gay: Only Sexually & Emotionally Attracted To The Same Sex.
Bisexual: Either Sexually or Emotionally Attracted To Both.
Straight: Only Sexually or Emotionally Attracted To The Opposite Sex.
Asexual: No libbido or urge to fuck anyone or anything. Blank.
Why is this so hard to understand?
Oh right? Human Beings like to complicate things.......it makes us feel special......and so complex.
Give me a fucking Break! (Serves Side Eyes To Everyone Arguing In This Thread)
As for Thoughts & Fantasies. Those don't count too. If you happen to be a straight guy who's masterbating about a woman and for some reason you start thinking about a man. Then you my friend might have bi tendencies. If you act upon it then you're Bi. Until you kiss, stick your cock in another man's mouth or ass you're technically still straight. Hints why thoughts and fantasies aren't real or true "Until" you bring them to life. Everyone is born with a natural sense of which sex he or she prefers to show favor and affection towards emotionally. It's the teen years where you start to realize and act upon these emotions toward which ever preference sexually. Some even awaken late and years later finally realize their true preference.
I'm a straight man, and I'm rarely turned on by pussy.
Okay, r172, what do you call a guy who fantasises about guys, has sex & sexual relationships with guys, but who'll happily fuck an attractive woman if the opportunity presents itself, and get quite aroused doing so? (but I, I mean he has no desire to have an ongoing sexual relationship with a woman)
Don't worry r167, if you are bisexual give it a few years and you'll be married with kids and voting repug.
All bi guys end up in conventional straight lives, by choice and desire to conform or just take the easy road to a more socially accepted life and not bother with the institutionalized homophobia same sex couples have to deal with everyday. And also a lot of bi guys are really just straight guys having fun and experimenting.
I think a lot og gay men have problems or have a negative view on bisexual men because many of them ditch them for a "normal" straight life.
RE175: Sounds like you don't know enough bisexuals.
Actually r176 I do know a lot of bisexuals and my experience and the experiences of other gay men I know that there is a pattern that most bi guys follow.
R177: Your pissy attitude is one of the reasons bisexuals settle down with girls. So fucking insecure!!!!
My last relationship ended when the guy asked me in the middle of sex, "whos ass feels better, mine or your ex-girlfriends?". Fucking Psycho.
Date a guy and you literally cant sit through a meal without being accused of eyeing a waitress. And dont you dare look twice at a baby because thats evidence that you are craving a uterus to cum in. Its a fucking nightmare. Who wants to live that!
Atleast I've been lucky to date girls who are turned on by guy sex. When they ask if I'm eyeing the waiter, its because the thought makes them wet.
[quote]My last relationship ended when the guy asked me in the middle of sex, "whos ass feels better, mine or your ex-girlfriends?". Fucking Psycho.
That was weird for him to ask you that. But its an honest question. I just think bisexuals enjoy giving sexual gratification to as many people as possible, and the like attention they get from doing it. But as we get older I think more that attention comes from other men vs other women.
["But as we get older I think more that attention comes from other men vs other women"]
R179: I'm not sure what you meant. For me, the older I get the less "whos better" drama I'm willing to put up with. Those kinds of self-esteem issues are a deal breaker. I think thats why I'm finding myself gravitating more towards women now.
Also, it is deeply offensive to reduce my bisexuality to "sexual gratification". In the same way that it is offensive to you when people say homosexuality is about lack of self-control or abused child hoods or domineering mother or absent father etc. I am bisexual because I am emotionally (and sexually)inclined to both sexes. If my dick didnt work, I would still be bi. Get it?!
Ok now how do you get a fucking quote into a fucking text box on this site #frustrating shit
Bi guys are narcissistic and insincere. They are all about the bi drama.
R182: And gay guys are insecure, melodramatic, closed minded hypocrites.
Re177: Meh, as a bisexual man, I will say that if someone seriously asks me what my sexuality is, I tell them I am a bisexual. But some people don't get it and it's exactly to avoid the drama that I "dumb it down" for casual acquaintances and just say I'm gay. Most people don't really care, anyway. I would go out on a limb and say that a part of bisexuality is an element of emotional attraction - for example, I'm attracted to virile, athletic and intelligent people. There is undoubtedly a stronger sexual attraction to males physically for me, but I've been turned on by women who had those personality characteristics, as well. I'm attracted to the person first, and their penis, vagina, breasts, pecs or asses second.
Dramatic people are dramatic people. Sexuality has very little to do with it. I've known many completely non-dramatic gay men and lesbians (some of them avoid associating with other gay people because of this perceived drama), but I've also known many heterosexuals and homosexuals whose lives are a constant stream of drama, ego and messy affairs.
One of the tenets of the gay rights movement was achieving sexual freedom, and I think this need to reduce sexuality to a binary characteristic is moronic. I don't believe you're either straight or gay - I think there is a lot of room in between. Trying to compartmentalize someone's sexual lives to a narrow label is just too reductionist.
r184, people like you are exactly why the myths that homosexuality can change and that it's a choice persist. Rather than saying you're bi you tell others that you're gay, which you know is not the truth. So when these people hear about your desires for women or see you dating a woman these long-held beliefs are reinforced. It's not an attack on you, it's the truth. Why do bisexuals complain about biphobia but yet they refuse to be counted as bi themselves? And I don't buy that whole 'I have to lie and pretend to be gay to fit in' stuff. From a numbers perspective there are way more bi people than gay people.
R185: As I said in my post, if someone honestly and seriously asks me my orientation, I tell them. I have a serious boyfriend and don't cheat on him, so if I'm asked by someone I don't know, I simply say I'm gay. I consider being bi to being a member of the gay community, which is why I don't think I'm lying - homosexual behavior involves same sex relationships and sexual activity; recognizing that you have some bisexual appreciation for the opposite sex doesn't make you into some sort of traitr. You're making a lot of assumptions about the social circumstances of the bisexual people posting on this board. Quite frankly, not everyone wants to know every detail of your sexuality if they ask you if you are a homosexual or not. Most of my straight friends count me as gay because I have sex with men; if I wanted to be literal, I would say I'm a gay bisexual male which is the longer answer my friends get. You're basically getting lost in the semantics of labels - not every answer is going to be straightforward. After all, if you ask if someone is gay or not, and they say that they are transgendered, transitioning to becoming a man but still in a long term lesbian relationship, they don't suddenly switch over to being heterosexual just because they appear to be a traditional straight couple. On the flip side, I'm not going to throw a fit & pull out pitchforks over a gay male who experimented with having sex with a woman and found that he liked it, but not enough to continue to seek that out again - one or two experiments doesn't suddenly flip him to being bisexual or questioning; he is ostensibly gay with a few positive experiences with women sexually.
Bisexuals complain about biphobia because people like 182 exist and the fact that many people claim not to be able to wrap their heads around it. It's not that hard: most people have a type. The ones who register as heterosexual or homosexual at the complete opposite ends of the Kinsey Scale have no sexual desire for the same sex, but there are more people in the middle, fewer people who are in the exact middle (even fewer who are asexual). My identity as a gay male comes from the fact that I am predominantly turned on and seek out arousal from males, but I am not entirely at the opposite end of the spectrum. Thus, it would be just as disingenuous for me to claim that I'm entirely bisexual, because I'm not - all of my relationships have been with men. Hence I simply state that I'm gay, and those that care enough to probe deeper get the more long-winded answer.
[quote]Also, it is deeply offensive to reduce my bisexuality to "sexual gratification".
r180, I didn't do that. I said there is also an attention factor involved which is one of the emotional components. And there is also intimacy. Some people are just more in tune and receptive to intimacy, and I think most bisexuals are like that. Its great to be able to get that indiscriminately from both sexes.
[quote]For me, the older I get the less "whos better" drama I'm willing to put up with. Those kinds of self-esteem issues are a deal breaker. I think thats why I'm finding myself gravitating more towards women now.
I get the drama you are talking about. But in general, as women get older they are less likely to stay in a relationship where the guy cant get everything they need from them. In general, women do not put up with a man's goings and comings if they dont feel that the guy is going to give them unquestioned companionship later on. Most guys end up giving women companionship by default because they become sexually unattractive and dependent on the woman. Moral of the story is, the woman might be turned on by that now she wont always be.
So much EST on here. The same troll that started this thread bumped it up.
R187: Hmmmmm. You seem to be labouring under the assumption that I couldnt get everything I needed solely from a female (or a male). I dont know how your bisexuality works but for me its not like I wake up thinking "I've had strawberry all month, I need to get some vanilla today".
I've never cheated on a partner. The times that I have gone out of a relationship it was with permission and had he not granted that permission I would have been fine with that.
In truth, your post encapsulates the very type of thinking thats making me shift from this community. Your post reads "but in general, as women get older they are less likely to stay in a relationship where the guy cant get everything they need from them." I've never dated a woman who expressed inadequacies of this nature. Never!! Not once!!!!
In contrast, every long term guy relationship (3) has raised this crap. I cant see that I would want to spend my sunset years explaining that the "slutty-bi" shit is myth. That I fell for the person not the gender and that he is enough for me et cetera. Its exhausting to think about.
Who keeps bumping these stupid threads?
What R184 said. I view myself as gay, but there are exceptions. It's a shame to think of sexuality in purely binary terms. Unfortunately, people are defined by whichever gender they have a greater sexual proclivity for, and this reinforces in the individual that they are gay or straight. For that matter, whether they are a top or bottom. I don't believe than human sexuality is just a matter of join the dots.
[quote]had he not granted that permission I would have been fine with that.
You would probably be fine for a while, but not if that happens a lot. Im not saying that makes you a slut for having a problem with it. But lets be realistic. You would end up resenting him for not letting you pursue a woman/women you really wanted or happened to connect with. He's cramping your sexuality.
[quote]I've never dated a woman who expressed inadequacies of this nature. Never!! Not once!!!!
Ok, fair enough. But it sounds like youve only had long term relationships with guys.
R190: I'm responding to questions but trolldar all you like, you closed-minded fuck.
R193: Honestly, where do you get your info on bisexuality from? NOM?? Pat Robertson? I DONT CRAVE SEX WITH THE GENDER X JUST BECAUSE I AM WITH GENDER Y. Did you at some point in this thread actually claim to be bi? Because if you did then you are clearly a liar.
Just so that this sinks in, I AM DRAWN TO THE HUMAN CONNECTION WHETHER IT HAPPENS WITH A GUY OR A GIRL. FYI, the semi-open arrangement was unique to that one relationship, it may surprise you to hear that he requested more passes than I did. (And because I relish my balls, I never told him it was for a girl, I explained this in a previous post)
Where did you read that I have only been in long term relationships with men. I'm 43 and I've been dating since I was 15. Cumulatively I have probably been in str8 relationships longer than gay ones. And once again, just so that you get it, I did not crave dick when I was in happy fulfilling relationships with women. Similarly, I dont crave pussy when I am in happy fulfilling relationships with men.
When I am unhappy in the relationship, I start connecting intimately with other people (as happened with that rlnship I described) and may end up lusting for them. NOT THEIR GENITALS BUT THEM. I really really hope thats clear for you now.
R194=10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. Fake bisexual you sure aren't help to prove that bisexuals aren't unstable and fucked in the head.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
R195: Let me guess, love of your life reject you for a woman???
Or better yet, he keeps fucking you but wont leave his wife??
Or is it just the good old, high-school-jock-let-me-suck-his-dick-then-called-me-a- *-infront-of-his-cheerleader-girlfriend???
Coz one thing is clear as day - YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH BISEXUALS. I just bet its the "i cant compete with women" syndrome.
Get a Tony Robbins CD and get that self-esteem issue of yours fixed!
Oh and for those following the discussion on why so many bis eventually settle with women ----- R195 is ample of evidence of the shit we are talking about.
Hes probably so brow-beaten by life (his dad, the jocks, his boss) that he cant believe that you would even be with him.
And be assured you will never be within 5 feet of a female without being accused of eye-fucking her or somethin'.
R184 Typical bisexual reponse. "I'm physically attracted to men but emotionally attracted to women." You are just gay. Unless your penis becomes erect from both men or women then you are not bisexual.
Bisexuality is not the issue, but I'm not sure if bisexual men know that as a gay men to be ditch in favour of a women, there is a certain extra hurtful element to that. It is not the bi guy's fault as much as it is society's fault for continually treating gay people like shit.
So that is a part of it, that maybe outside the hands of bisexual men.
Also people talk about sexual liberation but there is still a huge amount of insistence for men to at least try to have straight sex. There seem to be lots of young gay men that seem to feel obligated into trying straight sex or trying to engage and enjoy straight sex.
Sometimes it feels as if sexual liberation is just the opposite and gay men still felling the guilt into having straight sex.
Who cares about bisexuals? I don't know any young gay men who even worry or date any. They are so far off the radar, and too much of a hassle when there is so much good 100% gay dick (minus identity/sexuality issues). Bisexuals are more of a problem to lesbians, it seems.
Everyone comes to a relationship with baggage, but for some reason bisexual guys seem to to think they are always pure and flawless and everyone else has the problem, but to a bi guy is dating a gay guy them it is bound to be an issue, you are two people of different sexualities dating, the fact that you make a huge issue over it not being allowed to be an issue makes it worse.
Also reading the post by the bi guys, all of them are about having a sexual attraction to a woman's body, her "pussy" not her mind or her personality, the whole I'm attracted to a persons mind is total BULLSHIT of the highest order. So if you are a gay guy and you know you are dating a man who has sexual desires for women and "pussy" as the OP notes how can that not be an eventuality in a gay guys outlook.
And if dating a gay guy is such a hassle the easiest solution is don't date one.
R196/197 is a fucking loon. The same troll bumps up these threads every few months and makes the same comments over and over again. Some similar threads "Married Craigs List Hookups" get bumped up at the same time.
It writes the same things over and over again and blames gay men for its made up problems. The fact is you bumped a year old thread sweetheart tells us you have an unhealthy obsession with trolling or bisexuals. Probably both.
Great interview with Luke Macfarlane, I love how he talks about People should be OPEN :) Still Love him...
"Don't forget those promiscuous straight guys that let homos suck them off"
Hon, NO straight guy would EVER put his dick in the mouth of a homo. Straight guys would be repulsed at the very thought of it.
Luke Macfarlane is bisexual? Damn.
I love cock but I really want to know what it feels like to fuck pussy.
aaaah!!! Zombies attack!
I've fucked quite a few women. The last one jumped me... like pushed me down on the couch, ripped off her shirt and skirt, and then pulled my shirt off, etc.
I couldn't do it now, but it was ok then... I hated dating women... They're possessive of your time, jealous, demanding....The pussy ain't worth the trouble.
Because you're a homosexual, R208.
But what does it feel like to fuck pussy? I don't think I could lick pussy but I want to know what it feels like to fuck one.
What does it feel like to fuck a dog?
R210, if you won't lick one, you're not going to get to fuck one. Unless it's paid for $.
But I want to fuck one, just once at least. If I have to lick pussy to fuck pussy, then I will but where and how.
R213, poor kitty...
R213, you from Focus on the Family?
R213: If you dont know how to score pussy, you were probably never meant to have any. Exclusively gay men are just men with really whack game or the kind of womanly bodies/voices/personalities (a.k.a sissies) that would turn off women in the first place.
R216, fundie frau shit!
I'm primarily into women but every so often I crave a cock. Idris Elba would be my man of choice.
Idris Elba is indeed a God, R218.
I am not a sissy gay by any means and I'm not young anymore. I just want to try a pussy once before I get to old. What's the fucking problem with that. Nobody gives a straight answer on this fucking site do they.
It seems bisexual men stir up as much anger in gay men as bisexual women stir up with lesbians.
I am willing to bet my house that R39 has never seen a pussy in his life.
I'm a lesbian and there was a time in my late teens where I tried to pretend and kid myself that I was not a lesbian. I had been dating this nice guy for a while (I choose him because he was a nice push over type of guy). I would try to always invite friends on dates not to have to spend too much time alone with him.
I did have sex with him but there was no way I could have that cock anywhere near my mouth. I did try as I was trying to keep up the pretence of being straight. I gagged and retched and was nearly sick. There was no way I could do it. His face was a picture.
I also disliked kissing men. It just felt like a brillo pad or something equally as rough rubbing your lips and face as if it were going to tear your face off. It would feel like this even if the guy was cleanly shaved. I enjoy kissing women immensly - soft and gentle lips and skin.
I can however, recognise male beauty. I can see a guy and think there's a handsome man but he does not turn me on at all.
try Jewish men. If you are single, that is, and still willing to experiement.
Jewish men are more emotionally like women, and are very erotic in bed.
Don't know if they all expect oral though.
R221, there's nothing wrong with bisexual men as iong as they say they're bisexual and do not label them gay or straight and then say something that doesn't fit into that category.
Thank you R224 but I am totally a lesbian I have stopped pretending I am not and have come to terms with being a lesbian.
It's just something to keep in mind for a threesome.
You, know, he wants to watch but pays for the flight and hotel room...
I knew a guy in college who was gay as a goose, no question. But he'd sometimes tell me he'd want to have sex with some girl. One girl he would have had sex with was a "very cute" lesbian. There was some girl in his one of classes that he also liked. When drunk, he told me that a female acquaintance of ours "really turns me on!" I think in his case it was just that having sex with someone, anyone, male or female, made him feel better about himself. He seemed to have a lot of self-loathing and sex seemed to relieve that for him temporarily. I don't think he was bi-sexual. I think he just had a lot of unresolved emotional problems.
"I know sexuality is fluid."
Not for everyone; 100% gay, thank you.
"Try Jewish men"
R224, Jewish men tend to be very hairy.
How about Asian men? Soft & smooth face and bodies, tiny dicks.
Lesbians tend to be very hairy themselves.
Is that supposed to be witty woman hate, r231?
Um, no, personal experience.
A bi guy once posted here that fucking a pussy felt like fucking velvet pillows with fringe.
I was propositioned by my employer, a gay man about 60 y/o. He wanted to try pussy just once and asked me if I'd like to go to the Opera, have dinner and introduce him to a vagina.
Jack was a really nice guy. I would have given him a mercy fuck but he wasn't my male type for a casual fuck.
Oh please, R235, you can't fool another lesbian.
We only give mercy fucks to guys in wheelchairs.
I'd really like to fuck some pussy and go down on it, but I don't know. Women just don't turn me on the way a man does.
r237, why not make it a three-some?
I'm sure there's a bi guy out there who would be happy to act as the appetizer.
I'm told there's quite a difference between the feel of ass and vagina.
Don't have a penis, but they do feel different when finger fucking each.
Maybe the problem with sexuality is that it is static, but fuzzy. You can know where you fall generally, but not absolutely. This is why sexuality can appear so fluid to some, but so static to others. Further, this creates some problems for sorting people who could qualify as bi or gay. Single word definitions almost always seem partly wrong for a decent amount of people, no matter what word other people throw at them.
Sadly, people would like to think in sharper terms because they are far far simpler. Recalling a personal memory, I was frustrated with a social justice friend of mine because he kept using gender neutral pronouns. At the time it just seemed pretentious to me, but it later occurred to me I was mostly annoyed because i never figured out what the gender of the person was! Everybody is so used to putting the world into a simple box that we try to do it, with varying results, to people too.
Between the personal reaction of "hey, thats not me!" and the third-person reaction of "why can't you just be simple", there is a pretty strong framework for insane anger in discussions about sexuality. It's a deeply complicated topic that people continually simplify to make it more expressible.
Case in point, humanity is too complicated to fit into a conversation, but time is too precious to not force people's massive egos into a tiny box.
Maybe we should all just start identifying as "kinda ______"
"I'm kinda gay"
"I'm kinda bisexual"
...And if time permits, a more precise discourse can clear up the ambiguous parts.
I can imagine that the "kinda ____" solution would alleviate animosity between different terms for sexual expression, because commonality would lie in the unexplained facets, but it also sounds stupid to say "kinda gay". Bah!
Um, maybe we SHOULD NOT all start saying we're "kinda gay", because some of us aren't "kinda" anything, dickbucket.
I am as gay as a person could POSSIBLY be, have always been so, and will always be so. Maybe YOU are a "kinda gay guy", but I am a really, really, really gay guy. As are many of my friends.
r220 I suppose you are the one asking how it feels? I'm a woman and don't have a dick but I did post about the texture which feels like your inside cheek only tighter, firmer. If I had to imagine it, I guess it feel like getting a handjob and bj at the same time.
[quote]if you won't lick one, you're not going to get to fuck one
[quote]If you dont know how to score pussy, you were probably never meant to have any.
BS to both!
Also, there are plenty of straights who barely score if at all because they are not appealing to women for whatever reason.
If anything, a gay man has a HIGHER chance of getting any because it's more appealing that a gay man would choose you (whoever "you" are) to be the one to try it with.
Also, consider the fact that it won't feel the same with a condom than w/o one.
for me pussy no i used to like it but then i started sucking men off and there is nothing better then having a nice hard cock put in my mouth i just love cock
thanks for nothing, rusty
I am bi dude who is more attracted to hot guys than hot chicks, yet all my erotic dreams are about chicks.
I sometimes find women attractive, but I'll never find an actual vagina attractive.
My bf has had sex with 7 women, it makes me jealous that I haven't, like there is something I'm missing, which THERE IS! Every man on the planet, gay straight (or whatever you want to call yourself) should feel what's its like to be with a women, I mean that is what nature designed us for, don't get me wrong though, I am very gay, but even nature makes mistakes... I think it's the curiosity above all else, I think I'll just need to fuck pussy once or twice to get that curiosity quenched, but girls always say how cute I am so I guess whoever I pick will feel like they won the lottary!!!!
What do you care? You usually start these threads r247.
I have had women tried it on with me when in my twentyfold at private school but I wanted the nearest bin too throw up in I never had any desire nor found women sexually attractive in anyway way. Despite I have have respect and admiration on how they work and bring up kids hopfully equally in the family unit, I also don't get turned by str8 porn ether despite when my str8 m8s are drunk they throw str8 porn mags at me as a joke but one mates I have disowned because there stupid jokes are boring and bland u know but on the subjects of gays getting turned on by women I find very hard too belief that gay can just switch off from bring gay then go str8 and be happy ass I have met a few guys whom say they have gone str8 into a full heterosexual relationship and happy but tey ever seem content nor happy like they were before they went into a str8 relationship they always want more they can chew like go and have flings behind their girlfriends as the sex they say isn't as intense nor as injoyable yet wanting more than they can chew
An accurate description of my sexuality would be bisexual, but as it is far more focused towards men, it is easier to 'round it up' and say I'm gay. If I was with a woman I would miss intimacy and sex with a man. The reverse would not apply, so although I have no neurotic fear of women, there is no point in pursuing any form of relationship with a woman.