There was Bobby Garcia with his Navy and Marine jack off videos. WEHT Bobby Garcia?\
There is a website with some of the old stuff, but I prefer the torrents if anyone can link or direct. Google comes up with little. \
These men had pubes and were horny and some very hot.
Most of the guys just laid there. Many didnt'' even moan or even MOVE when they came.%0D\
I envy Bobby for getting his hands on all that hot military cock... but man, some of those videos were DULL to watch.%0D\
Like watching paint dry
I loved it, prefer it to all that faking going on and all that fucking in the vids today. Just get naked and blast one...that''s all I ask.
John Waters has a whole chapter on Bobby Garcia and the Old Reliable guy in his latest book, "Role Models." He''s alive but struggling.
My favorite porn is watching a guy getting jacked off. He has a few videos that are hot but it''s boring when the guy just lies there and the only way you can tell he''s come is because you actually see him shoot.
I respectfully disagree, to me there is something genuine and real about that, more exciting than all the faking that goes on in vids. A hot man shoots load, good enough
He lives in a shack with a swarm of rats, r5. No I''m not exaggerating. He seemed insane.
I would do Jake Cruise. I don''t consider him ugly. Those hot guys love him.
I am a fan of this kind of porn too, OP. Some of his videos are insanely dull. And I hate the way he tidies up after the guys shoot.%0D\
But as a voyeur, I love the subtleties in a guys face, right before he shoots. Especially if he is trying not to act like he is into it, but can''t help himself.%0D\
I have to say, militaryclassified.com is a better site and Rob Navarro is the true successor to Bobby Garcia. Rob is a bit more palatable as well.%0D\
Seducedstraightguys.com is another hot site. The guys are Australian, and the accents are really hot. You are more likely to see real men instead of buffed and plucked porn stars, which I don''t find too appealing.
Old reliable guy is in pretty bad shape physically. he has a facebook page that his fans set up, and apparently he''s in a nursing home now.
And yes, I do believe the guys on these two sites are straight, or at least straight identifying. I have watched enough porn to realize the difference between Jake Cruise''s or Sean COdy''s "professional str8" guys and the real deal.%0D\
Some times on either of these sites, you will find a guy who is probably gay, but this is his first time experience with another guy. I love the excitement in their eyes, when they are finally given the license to do something they have been dying to do all along.%0D\
BUZZ on militaryclassified.com , page 11, on the site, is probably one of the hottest online porn things I have seen.
I gotta say everyone on that Military \
Classified site looks like they just stepped out of a gay bar or a rentboy ad. Not at all convincing, looks like he gives them a haircut shave off their pubes and makes like twinkyville.
Did you know it was Bobbys vids that made Dirk Yates successful? Dirk was buying them from Bobby right as the Camp Pendleton "gay porn ring" scandal started and thus Dirk was able to cash in. %0D\
Bobby invented the military jack off genre. However he never got wealthy from it and surprisingly he only had a couple of bad encounters with some marines where he got beat up.%0D\
I''m sure his intake of Johnsons baby oil and poppers has taken its toll on his health because from what I know he is quite sickly these days. He''s moved back to Oceanside from Twenty Nine Palms.%0D\
Bobby you''re a legend.
R13, my favorite is Brent on page 19%0D\
Best movie was the Bukkake movie on page 15.%0D\
Although I WISH I had the hundreds or thousands of dollars I spent on Bobby military tapes, I definitely found and probly still would find them to be hot as hell... just did an x-marine, x-army guy yesterday( fuk, he was in both branches) and it reminded me of the Bobby tapes, wish there was a definitive answer to the question about what he is up to.
It''s funny you say Brent on page 19, r16. He was the reason I started looking at the site. I think it was posted years ago, here on DL, that a guy who was on MTV''s Dating show had a gay porn past. Indeed it was Brent. Ever since then, I have been hooked.%0D\
I like Buzz, because you can tell Rob was grooming him all along the way. You could tell that he was just a gay guy discovering that he liked dick. And in that one video, where he asks Rob to fuck him, something that Rob has done only twice on the site, that video is so hot. And the fucking and Buzz moaning is beyond.
I love it when a site like Broke Straight Guys says the guys are straight and the guys want to know when the girls are going to show up and you see two guys kissing. Straight guys don''t kiss.
Those videos are from years ago. These guys are now married with children. Let''s leave well enough alone. Don''t go digging these old videos up when nothing good could come from it. Don''t ruin these guys'' lives.
Be nice, R19, and let the children here indulge their little fantasies that not only do straight guys dig the homosex, they''ll actually do it on camera for the entire world to see for posterity. They''ll be able to show their grandkids.
[quote]I''m sure his intake of Johnsons baby oil and poppers has taken its toll on his health %0D\
What does that mean? Was he drinking baby oil?
Fuck you R20 as if my watching a torrent of an old vid would ruin someones life.\
You ARE a drama queen.
[quote]These guys are now married with children. Let''s leave well enough alone. Don''t go digging these old videos up when nothing good could come from it. Don''t ruin these guys'' lives.%0D\
Another vote for Brent. One MC video I have of him getting a hand job is really hot because he keeps coming long after he''s shot his load. He''s older in that one than he is on pg. 19.
This site has some hot guys. It''s about the performers as opposed to the other sites we''ve talked about here.
Really, R23, would you like to come across a video of your dad or grandfather jerking off when he was young and didn''t know any better? It would shatter your life if you did. Let past mistakes stay in the past, please.
I disagree R27. I think everyone''s mistakes should be constantly pointed out and referred to all the livelong day.
You really are a drama queen...shatter my life?\
I would say...''Hey pop, take a look at this vid I found.''\
I might be amused, I might be entertained, I might just fast forward but my life would not be shattered.
R19, you proved one of my points. Broke straight guys, and baitbus and a lot of those sites where guys are caught, are completely fake. Str8 guys don''t kiss. BUT a str8 guy will get his cock sucked for $800 on video, especially if he is young and needs the money. %0D\
I don''t think I have ever seen anyone kiss on militaryclassified or seduced straight guys. It is completely plausible for a str8 guy to get a hand job or get sucked. It''s not for him to drop his pants and get his ass fucked on camera.
The site I remember from before the "straight guy" sites of today was Pauper Prince. Pauper was this hot young blond guy, built like a brick shithouse, with a huge hog. He lived in AZ, and the gimmick was that his friends had set up a web camera in his house without his knowing. So Pauper would walk around thehouse naked, shower, jack off, etc.\
I miss Pauper.
he offered baby oil for lube and he''d slather it all over their cocks so they could jack off and more often than not he''d go down on the guys cock right after applying a liberal amount of the oil. he even talks about how much baby oil he goes through! and he is seen sniffing poppers in the majority of his videos.
All I remember from the Bobby Garcia vids was how terrible the quality was........some of them are downright blurry.
[quote]I love it when a site like Broke Straight Guys says the guys are straight and the guys want to know when the girls are going to show up and you see two guys kissing. Straight guys don''t kiss%0D\
LOL, yeah! Then when the girl doesn''t show up, they decide to spread ass for a poke. Yup, these guys are straight alright.
Jake Cruise isn''t ugly, but he''s not sexy either. All I know is that the guys like him, because he treats them like family. He''s known to be good to his models.
[quote]All I remember from the Bobby Garcia vids was how terrible the quality was........some of them are downright blurry%0D\
I think they were recorded on 8mm film, that''s why they were blurry and hard to see. A far cry from HD now.
[quote]I gotta say everyone on that Military Classified site looks like they just stepped out of a gay bar or a rentboy ad. Not at all convincing, looks like he gives them a haircut shave off their pubes and makes like twinkyville.%0D\
I think it''s time the guy who runs MC try to change things up a little. Instead of just giving handjobs and blowjobs, he should have some of the guys engage in some hardcore sex (and I mean with one another, not the lame fucking him in the ass for two minutes while he screams bit he''s been doing for years).%0D\
Personally, I only find a few of the videos to be any good anyway. Most of them don''t even have a fucking reaction when they climax. They just kind of tense up a little, let out a barely audible grunt, and that''s the end of it. If there was no cum on their leg, you''d barely know they came.
You can see short clips of Bobby''s stuff on this site:
They like the $$$ he pays them R36. Don''t delude yourself.
THat''s just it R38, a straight guy isn''t going to moan and scream when he is getting sucked by another guy. You have to watch how still their faces become and how glazed over their eyes get, and how rock hard and swollen the heads of their cocks get. That is the best part. And a lot of those guys shoot monster loads.
That could be true, R41, but for the record, some of them have done hardcore sex vids on other sites. For instance, the guy on MC called Jack has two videos on ChaosMen, one in which he''s having sex with Derek from Corbin Fisher and another one that''s a threesome with him, Kurt Wild and another guy. For that reason alone I don''t believe all of the MC guys are straight and even wonder if they''re real military (though someone here on DL once swore that they are because he actually knows some of them).
Do you pay to watch them, R16?
Jack from MC is all over Dink Flamingo website Active Duty. He''s an outright sex pig. And I love it.
I love him, too, R44. He''s just such a hot little thing, though I haven''t seen him in a long time (never been a subscriber to Active Duty).%0D\
If you haven''t seen it, you should definitely check out his ChaosMen clip with Derek from CF. The way Jack rides him towards the end of it is just crazy hot and clearly takes Derek to another planet, particularly when Jack asks him in a whisper "Do you like that?"
Can anyone remember back in the old days who it was who had the videos of Burning Man, Black''s beach, locker rooms etc.\
It was mostly softcore and filmed in public places.
R48, those were some great softcore of naked men walking down Black''s Beach. There were several on xtube for a while and then he was banned. They were called Nude Beach Males. Those vids must have turned up somewhere else!
OT, since I am cheap...%0D\
A young neighbor of mine moved to Orlando recently. He posted on FB a few days ago he did porn! You know I have to see it. What studios should I be looking for that are based in Orlando? TIA
R47, Vinnie from Sneek Peek used to do some fun videos from Providence, RI. Then he moved to LA, did a few videos, and seems to have vanished. Too bad.%0D\
My favorite guy from the Providence days was Dante, a big str8 Italian stud.
There must be others that are still around or available in a new form.\
Anyone remember Neon Umbar, a supposedly straight guy who had a webcam.
The softcore vids I am thinking of were from a guy who did hidden camera way back and he had a ton of video, Black''s Beach, Locker Rooms etc.\
But he was not the one in the lawsuit...\
I want to say Taurus productions but I don''t think it is right.
It was Taurus Productions. Used to have a website, don''t know if he still does. Most of his stuff was shot on 8MM film, then transferred to VHS, and probably from there to DVD. It had a certain charm, but the visual quality was no where near current standards.
Then there''s Angry Yong Man, hidden cam in military locker rooms. They were only able to show faces in the first one. After that, no faces until much later when the faces came back, and it was obvious that those were hired models, or amateurs who signed a release.
Loved Bobbys videos, and bought tons of them. The guys were real, not shaved but I always wondered how Bobby could suck on a cock covered in baby oil.
Thanks for confirming that R54. \
...and yes Bobby did swallow a lot of baby oil. Petrol products can''t be good for ones digestion.
I found it, thanks to you. \
Good site, the men of those years were so much more sexy than men are now.
R52 - I used to love Neon. He was adorable, and such a nice guy.%0D\
Also loved RoboCam and his megahungthick friend Avery. Hot Canadian boys.%0D\
For more redneck stuff, though on the younger side, check out Joe Schmoe. Some of those guys are sizzlin'' hot. Love me some Blaze.
I luv you guys for discussing my favorite topic: watching straight guys having gay sex.%0D\
I totally luv Bob G. videos, Military Classified, All American Heroes, Active Duty(but some models are very gay), and most especially Sneek Peek(my fav model is Boston). There''s another amateur guy who posts his videos on Rocket Tube. I can only get off watching gay for pay straight guys. Keep on posting.
Lots of hidden camera, lockerroom, restroom voyeur stuff. Some hot stuff can be found in the archives.
So has anyone heard anything lately about TommyDX''s site? (It''s one of the Next Door sites.) He hasn''t updated it with a hardcore vid in weeks (just solo clips) and it''s beginning to make me wonder if something''s up (no pun intended).%0D\
Given what happened with Mason Wyler (whose ND site also stopped updating weeks ago), I''m hoping Tommy isn''t off dealing with a similar issue....
So do any of you have links to torrents or free sources?
I love the hidden camera videos, even if they are probably illegal.%0D\
I got one from a gay-torrents that was of a masseur he regularly massaged members from a lacrosse team who set up a hidden webcam. His whole thing was to get them to let him jerk them off. It''s hot to see them, when they roll over, semi hard, and watch them grow as he "accidently" bumps into their cocks while he massages them. He is talking about sports the entire time, even has he grabs their dicks and starts stroking it. I guess the sports talk makes it not gay in their minds.
R75 Do you know the name of the torrent? \
Can you link it?
Gay torrents makes you register which I hate AND then has to ''approve'' you.
[quote]I love the hidden camera videos, even if they are probably illegal.\
They are fake dear.
"wish there was a definitive answer to the question about what he is up to."%0D\
There is. Read John Waters'' book.
i second that r80, it is a set-up and the models know they are being videotaped.
The old hidden camera vids by Taurus are real, but since that time they are all fakes. Even the LaCrosse jerk off vids.
The lacrosse jerk-off vids are real. They''re actually taken from a much larger collection that was sold by email on VHS from England in the 90s. Most of the massage clients were older, and in most cases the masseur sucks the client off. Occasionally it''s mutual. %0D\
The guys are mostly stocky, blue-collar types and appear "straight identified" and while they almost certainly knew in advance the masseur gives happy endings, there is no indication they know they are on camera, which stays in a fixed position throughout.%0D\
Love those tapes.
R74, I did not know that. Thanks for the answer to my question.
Loved his videos, thought they were some of the hottest stuff I''d ever seen. I only saw many-times copied duplicates and wish I could see HD originals.
Can someone who has read the Bobby update please summarize it here? I mean, with a little more detail than "he''s crazy and living with rats in Oceanside."
Here is what i''ve heard:%0D\
Bobby lives now in 29 Palms area in a shack of a house without power. 29 Palms is where a large Marine base is.
That is so sad...I hope he gets money from the website using his vids.
Some of those Gemini men are the queeniest queens who ever queened.
I agree with R79. We don''t want torrents - they are a nuisance. We want links to .avi, .wmv and .mpg files that can be directly downloaded.
You''ll take what you get missy R79 and LIKE it.
F79 here...I actually love torrents I just hate registering at the sites in order to get them.
So fare only one torrent link...let''s use this thread to link to cool torrents...my favorite hosting site is pirate bay, but it is a bitch to search.
I couldn''t download the lacrosse videos. Can someone post a direct link to the downloads? TIA!
You cannot direct download to the vids. It redirects you to the front page. Once you register you can search and it comes right up.
Sorry to learn of David Hurles a/k/a/ Old Reliable being in such bad shape. He really pioneered the "amateur straight guy strip and jerk" porn genre. There were others before him, in particular his friend Bob Mizer at Athletic Model Guild, but Hurles broke out just as home video was becoming a market, long before internet porn.%0D\
His models were real rough trade hustlers that he picked up in bars and on the street in Hollywood.%0D\
As he was closing down his business circa the late 90s, he started releasing free "bonus tapes" to his established customers. He had never appeared in his own films (except as an off-camera voice), and only rarely did he film more than one model interacting, but the bonus tapes were all he himself being fucked, usually bareback, by one of his stable of models. It was a compelling and disturbing valedictory to his work, showing a life-long john and his rentboys in action.
[quote]I have to say, militaryclassified.com is a better site and Rob Navarro is the true successor to Bobby Garcia. Rob is a bit more palatable as well.%0D\
Nah, as other posters have said, Rob is really annoying and most of his models are too preened and twinky.
I''m a documentary filmmaker trying to find Bobby Garcia to interview for a documentary. I just got an e-mail that John Waters no longer knows where Bobby is. If the person who thought Bobby was in Oceanside has any more info please contact me - email@example.com. If anyone else has a lead, please let me know. Thanks.
I loved them and would happily pay for them now and help his financial position. Hope he can have a happier old age.
Your e mail address is so off putting I suggest you change it to something a bit more humble if you expect a response.
...if anyone did find links to torrents I would still love to see them.\
Old Taurus stuff as well.
And what of Auntie Bob?
Who or what is that R7?
Still there, but no new content in a decade
R109 just another gross fat queen who appears in his own vids which makes them unwatchable.
The many videos of college wrestlers in locker rooms are real.\
Those were the subject of the lawsuit discussed in the NYTimes link.\
I downloaded them from a some site that had free pron about 5 years ago.\
You see HUNDREDS of college wrestlers strip down to weigh in or shower.
Attached url is a great place to search for hotfile or filesonic files -- porn and non-porn movies.\
Rob from Military Classified is good, but I wish he''d swallow more cum. Of course, you can always tell when he''s REALLY turned on, because that''s when he sucks a guy dry.
Hey Anonymous- I''d think that anyone with a military fetish would respond well to my e-mail address!
Those wrestling tapes include nude minors, so if you own them, you own child porn.
Bobby Garcia is also one of my faves... I don''t think there''s any other porn that could be more more stimulating and more amateur than Bobby''s porn. \
Whatever happened to you Bobby, you deserve it. \
The sheer number of straight marine cocks you sucked in the short span of your wretched filming is truly enviable. \
You made me realize that beauty doesn''t matter to a broke and horny marine and a cow like you will do for a marine. Cheers Bobby!
I wish more of Bobby''s stuff were on torrents.
Man, I used to love those videos. There was one where this guy who was wearing an Army Marching Band uniform stripped and fucked Bobby (bareback). At a certain point, he just lost it I guess and came in Bobby''s ass. The look on his face when he realized what he had just done was worth the price of the video alone.
Can somebody post Bobby Garcia torrent collection? There are 60 dvds being sold out there for 300 bucks...kinda too much.
Were they real marines?
Now they cut any man''s hair short and call him a Marine.\
In Bobby''s day they were REAL.\
Yes I would love to see someone post the torrent collection. I have found only a few online and they were video rips.
how many of them were straight ?
Probably not many. A straight guy might do a jo vid but not one of those where he goes up into the butt of Bobby. \
In general there are not many straight marines.
did the straight marines agree to be sucked or jerked off?
[quote]did the straight marines agree to be sucked or jerked off?\
My father did, R124
Your father was in one of the videos, R125?\
R124 probably not. \
The ones that were straight probably would not agree to have a man do anything to them on camera. \
There are few straight Marines anyway.
Who where the two young men who helped bobby sometimes. They gave bjs to some of the men.
I would like to know if they are in any other videos besides Bobby's.
Ok look is aw one person on here state that militaryclassified.com is fake. Wrong indeed. I was stationed with 2 of the Marines on there and they were straight, down and out and cruising on straight hook up sites and ended up meeting up with Navarro....good shit
Damn I wonder what sites they use to find these guys!
I don't buy it that any military guy, any straight guy, can get an erection for another guy if he is truly straight. Someone said they watch straight porn while they were having sex, so? Still the military guy is having sex with another guy. I just think there are a lot of guys in the military who are gay or bisexual. No straight guy wants to be filmed for all to see him having sex with another guy. I know a lot of straight guys and the remote thought of having sex with another guy grosses them out completely.
I was just curious and glanced at Bobby Garcia's videos and Bobby Navarro? They look like the same guy what is with that? The military guys look like they have major orgasms and when they do, they look at Bobby, not at the porn. I have read he gives the best blow jobs they have ever have. What dose he do to give the best blow jobs?
Also, someone mentioned poppers? Isn't taking poppers dangers? What do they do?
Bobby and Rob look NOTHING alike. The only similarity is that they are both Mexican. Bobby is overweight with curly hair and Rob Navarro is thin with straight hair also Rob has a nice fit body. Also I think Rob gives better BJ's than Bobby
@131 you never know when people get hard on times some people will do anything for money
 I secretly (very secretly) think Jake Cruise is hot too, in fact I never even pay attention to the guys he's servicing.
Is Rob the guy at Military Classified, R133?
I have a bunch of videos from an old series called "Clinton Men". Jim Clinton was/is (?) an older guy from southern Georgia. The videos were of him blowing and getting fucked by guys who worked for him, truckers, his brothers, and various guys. The guys were hot because they were real. When I've inquired about them on different sites, very few seem to remember them. But I loved them.
R137: I know about the Jim Clinton videos, but haven't watched any. Are they still available?
Torrent links to any of this stuff?
I hope you people who call Jake Cruise ugly look half as good when you are middle-aged.
Jake isn't just ugly cause his face. It's his desperate old queen vibe
R141 middle aged? He must be 70 at least.
I've got scores of Bobby Garcia vids.
As much as I like the idea, the reality is that most are incredibly boring.
For me, at least, I have to really like the guy. Most are pretty average (which is hot in itself, usually), but the vids tend be pretty bad.
Also, there's usually only one vid of each guy. There are exceptions, of course - the studly Chris Canyon comes to mind. He's in several Bobby vids, as well as doing a number of things with Dirk Yates. Wonder whatever happened to Chris? I'd pay him now for an hour or so....
Also, wish someone would start a Joe Schmoe thread! I'd love to chat with other fans, and I'm too cheap to pay the $18. :)
Just subscribed to dirkyates.com and all of the Bobby Garcia tapes are there 73 x 2hr tapes of military cock.