It is redundant and nonsensical. \
What phrases or terms drive you crazy?
It''s not really redundant. Entitlement can either be granted externally or decided by oneself.
Please Fuck off and Die.\
"Entitled" is usually used to describe a person''s mistaken belief that they deserve special treatment.\
If the special treatment is being granted willingly by a third party, then the belief is not mistaken and you are not describing a sense of entitlement.\
Hence, "self-entitlement" is redundant.
I''m starting to get sick of "boograhmocious." \
Any one else?
[quote]"Entitled" is usually used to describe a person''s mistaken belief that they deserve special treatment.\
I disagree. That is not even the most common use of the word.\
In any case, the fact that it could mean several things makes the disambiguation legitimate, not redundant.
Unless one is using "entitled" in a legal context, almost any use of the term is as a pejorative description of someone who inaccurately believes he or she deserves special treatment.\
So, for most purposes "self-entitled" is redundant. If you are using the word in a legal (or benefits) context, it is as a defined term and as such is not likely to be confused with the pejorative use of "entitled" in the first place.\
So, "self-entitled" is redundant.\
More importantly, it is meaningless. Adding the "self-" doesn''t really clarify the writer''s meaning. \
As such it is mere "I like to hear myself use buzz words" language, and reminds me of the hillbilly style of writing in which words are unnecessarily hyphenated.
When dining at buffets I provide myself with courteous self-service.
[quote]Unless one is using "entitled" in a legal context, almost any use of the term is as a pejorative description of someone who inaccurately believes he or she deserves special treatment.\
I still disagree, though I don''t know whether to attribute your conviction about the use of this word to limited experience or wishful imagination.\
Adding the "self" clarifies the "mistaken belief" aspect, because the notion of entitlement is self endowed, much like the expression "self-righteous."\
The fact that you only use the word in one sense does not mean it can''t have other meanings. And if it can have other meanings, clarification is not always redundant.
The word imagery is confused with ''self-titled'': one who claims special status and demands deference based on a fictitious lineage.
Joseph brill, grand visier of homeland.
Game, set, and match for R5/R9!
It is already quite clear from context which definition of "entitled" a speaker or writer is using. This is what makes "self-entitled" redundant. How is that complicated?\
I''m not sure where you got the idea I''m claiming the word is used only one way. \
But in terms of frequency, are you disputing the fact the word is most often used in a legal or benefits context or as a pejorative? Because if that''s what you are claiming, then I would have to disagree with you.
I want to marry R5/R9. He really has his shit together and is entitled to much praise and adulation for putting the self-important OP in his place.
[quote]the notion of entitlement is self endowed, much like the expression "self-righteous."\
Please use "entitled" in a sentence where the term is used in a neutral (non-pejorative) way, communicates the idea that a benefit is being conferred by a third party, and is not a legal or benefits scenario.
I''ve decided that I''m entitled to my opinion.
Step 2: \
Substitute "self-entitled" for "entitled."\
See how stupid it sounds?
Thank you, R1. Thread closed.
Oh, R7, you just don''t get it. You are entitled to your opinion (as incorrect as it is), as well as a self-entitled prick.
[quote]reminds me of the hillbilly style of writing in which words are unnecessarily hyphenated.\
WTF? That''s definitely the only time I''ve ever heard ''hillbilly'' used in a discussion of semantics.\
Children are entitled to be childish.\
You asked for an example where the entitlement is NOT conferred on oneself, so please don''t embarrass yourself by calling attention to the fact that "self-entitled" cannot be substituted here.
I wish the word "entitled" would vanish entirely from the Datalounge, because it is used so incorrecty, so often.\
It''s correctly used to describe presumptive behavior, but so many of our snootier prisspots use it to describe perfectly ordinary behavior which annoys them - such as female tourists walking down the sidewalks of New York. That''s not using the word to describe bad behavior, it''s using it to express snobbery and exclusion.
People are entitled to courtesy from their fellow man. \
The self entitled baby carriage pushing frau thought she could park her said carriage in the middle of the grocery aisle.
R22, when the dishwasher is done running, why don''t you pull out your clean, warm dildo and put it to good use-- you really need to lighten up.
R7 is entitled to my disdain.
I think OP''s dildo has been stuck up his ass for some weeks now.
You''re full of shit
So, that term would be "self-shitted."
Arrogating a sense of entitlement to one''s demeanor is pretty much implied by the context, so I agree that describing someone''s behavior as "entitled" is the same as the redundant "self-entitled," unless we''re talking about the bestowal of knighthoods.
Please stop typing headlines in all caps. It's redundant. The fact that it is a headline is obvious by its position at the top of the post.
OP is a stay-at-home mommy from Williamsburg Brooklyn.
I hate "nonsensical". It's like "misogynistic". People trying to sound smart by contorting words only show the limits of their vocabulary.
OP, you're quite self entitled to be the DL hall monitor, aren't ya hon?
Beating a dead horse to death. That one has annoyed me off-and-on. I hyphenate freely too, and my people are from ... non-urban areas of the western parts of of central-east-coast states. Suppose that's why?
My oldest brother isn't musically silly or entertaining.
He's half-blind, nearly deaf, and fat with moobs. He rightfully deserves the title 'Sack of Shit' - not "Ish Kabibble".
R35, just so you know, when you hyphenate unnecessarily, it makes the phrase feel as if it's stopping and starting again in those places. It breaks up whatever you're saying, makes it choppy, and distracts from your meaning.
[quote]it makes the phrase feel as if it's stopping and starting again
Perhaps the point, Polly Prissy-Pants
This thread is making me HORNY as HELL
R14 Hows this?
Because I spent over $100 on my on-line order, I was informed I was entitled to get free shipping.
that warn't me
"Have a good one!"
So what the OP is saying is that the mistaken use of "entitled" by clowns like him, when actually he means "self-entitled", should be the basis for now using the term entilted to mean self-entitled.
Entitled = deserving
Self-entitled = having baseless or unfounded sesne of being deserving
I can't pronounce ask, I keep saying aks. Genetic metathesis or something. So lets just stop the use of ask.
I wonder what you would be criticizing, if your math grades were high enough to get into a real post secondary program. If use of the word "Self-Entitled" bothers you, you're likely a self-entitled bitter asshole/ English major.
Somebody's got a case of the Mondays :( frowny face!!
Irregardless and I could care less - my two pet peeves! Think about what you are saying dumbbells!
``Please stop using...``
Wrong, R32. "Nonsensical" is in the dictionary, and it's perfectly acceptable as a different form of the word nonsense. Compare "That statement is nonsense" to "That's a nonsensical statement." Both phrasings are acceptable.\t
OP's post was intentionally ironic...right?
"Misogynistic" is in the dictionary as well. The word has been in existence since 1821.
OP is confused because so many people say "entitled" when they mean "self-entitled". So it seems redundant. But those people are wrong. "You should know by context what they mean" isn't a license to just be wrong. Wrong is still wrong.
If I said "That guy just cut in line! What an important asshole!" would you know by context that I really meant that he's a self-important asshole? Probably not. "Entitled" and "self-entitled" work the same way.
If someone says "I could care less" when they meant "I couldn't care less", I shouldn't be expected to pick up through context which meaning they ACTUALLY wanted. They should say the one they mean.
OT and R7 get their definitions from The Valley Girl Dictionary.
"Entitled" means entitled–as in "deserving of" or "having a right to"—for god's sake.
Persons whom DLers describe as "self-entitled" can be more clearly and less awkwardly described as having a false sense of entitlement.
There's nothing sadder than an "oh, dear" troll who can't even do it right.
Closure, "reach out", "literally" when something isn't necessarily literal, ironic, "going forward" for "from now on"
I would also like to encourage people who attend concerts of classical music to try and restrain themselves from giving a standing ovation unless the performance really and truly deserved it. When I hear and/or see that a performance has been given a standing ovation these days it really means nothing anymore because audiences do it all the time now, whereas in more discerning times standing ovations were doled out judiciously and everyone in the audience understood this; it's more about estimation and less about emotion, not the other way around.
"My 'child' is a star/genius/record poopshooter/singular jizzbag, etc. etc. etc. at such and such school" bumper stickers.
Straight guy hugs constantly at base/foot ball games among the team members--I would rather see the staid handshakes of old than that fake, phony shit.
"Baby on board"--what the fuck does this mean?
Anyone who uptalks should be severely bitch-slapped.
This thread has certainly become boograhmocious. Bartle du?