Joan Baez%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%A6what an amazing, cool and talented woman
I'm old enough to remember Joan Baez in the late 60s (I even remember being taken to one of her concerts by my baby sitter) but I was still too young to have realized she was such a huge folk star in her day.%0D
I'm watching a PBS "American Masters" about her. WOW, she was/is something. She made the cover of Time Magazine as one of or the premier folk singer in the 60s. She is also a very brave and caring and complex person. She is so open about what drove her in her professional and personal life. She devoted her life to peace and helping others. She is still physically beautiful without a hint of having anything "done." She seems to the epitome of aging gracefully. Her voice is still incredible. %0D
If you catch this episode of "American Masters" it's a must see. When I think of those that have fame today like Spears, Madonna and those like them and compare them to someone like Baez it makes me ill. No wonder the world is in such sorry shape and our youth for the most part are such selfish morons. What a difference between what they admire and their role models today and what the youth of the 1960s admired and had as role models.%0D
My heart is breaking as I listen to Baez's voice cracking with tears as she's talking about her sister Mimi dying of cancer.%0D
Beautiful then and beautiful now. It''s hard to go wrong with such bone structure. %0D\
I do wish she would have glammed it up more often, though, like she did in "Renaldo and Clara."
She is an extremely talented woman.%0D\
And why isn''t she in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yet?
Her name is Joan Baez, NOT Joan Baezwhat.
A strident tool of the left with some talent and no brain.
[quote]And why isn''t she in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yet?\
Because she''s never done rock & roll.
You mean phony Joanie?
I disliked her in the American Masters bio because she came across as so fucking smug and superior. \
Her activism is well known and she''s never sold out to be commercial like many others (Jane Fonda) have. \
I liked her looks before she had so much plastic surgery - especially on her nose.
"Because she''s never done rock & roll."%0D\
Neither did Madonna or Run DMC. It''s a Hall of Fame for people who are/were active in music in the Rock & Roll era. She is every bit as accomplished as most of the people who have been inducted.%0D\
Thanks, R4, for contributing your limited review of Joan Baez. Go back to licking out Karl Rove''s diseased asshole.
Who cares if she is in some silly Hall of Fame.\
Kennedy Center honors would be more appropriate. She is an American Master, a true original and a love.
Diamonds and Rust...I''ve already paid.
I prefer that Mitchellwhat woman
R4 is a Viagra popping Log Cabinette who is hot for each and every member of Menudo, until the member reaches puberty.
Very, I think.%0D\
"She is so open about what drove her in her professional and personal life"%0D\
She doesn''t seem to be so open about her bisexual relationship with Kim!
In 1969, just a few months before the Stonewall Riots, I attended Joan Biaz concert in super conservative Salt Lake City. She used the occasion to raise the issue of civil rights for gay man and women. \
That was pure class at a time when almost no one else would mention the issue.\
Joan Biaz is an extraordinary talent with a lot of courage
I can''t believe I misspelled Joan Baez''s name twice. I must be having a Hooked on Phonics day.
Sorry, I put an ellipsis in there between her name and the what but when it posted it was gone.%0D\
IA with those of you that find her as wonderful as I do. I didn''t find her smug. In fact I think it was the opposite. She spoke about any ego she had or her need for the initial attention she craved in a very honest and open way. As much as I admire her talent even more I admire what she did with her life and her fame. Instead of using her fame for wealth and power she used it to help others and help make this a better world. She spoke about how she was treated by Bob Dylan without any sign of holding his behavior against him, although with a twinge in her voice that made me think it still hurts. I also admire that while surrounded at a young age by fellow celebrities that used drugs she didn''t. My guess is that they thought of her as some kind of goody two shoes but she stuck to her principles no matter what. %0D\
I didn''t know she was bi. Like her even more now, lol.
Joan Baez is a self-centered smug-ass person whose "autobiography" is a pile of untruths.
OP/R17, you talk about Joan Baez like you never heard of her before the American masters show -- ANF that you think none of US have heard of her either. Jeeez. \
Everyone knows she at least bisexual, probably lesbian. At least for the last 25 years or so.
Any specfic examples R18?
I cant stand her vibrato, sorry
I hate when people are "sorry" for their opinions, like we''re somehow devastated. What the fuck ever!
She dated Steve Jobs, but dropped him because he was a jerk.
I know. Shame on me. Like I said, I''m old enough to know more about her but I didn''t.
"She dated Steve Jobs..."\
That''s part of her official bio lest anyone thinks she hasn''t had heterosexual sex since 1971.
To clarify, she is open about having had ''an affair'' with Kim, but puts it down as having needed someone soft after having had a difficult relationshipe with a man.%0D\
"Everyone knows she at least bisexual, probably lesbian. At least for the last 25 years or so."%0D\
She seems to claim only to have had one affair with a woman (Kim) back in the early 1960s.%0D\
Steve Jobs was pretty hot back then.%0D\
Didn''t she have a long affair with Dylan? Diamonds and Rust is about him.
She likes to pretend that a lot of Bob Dylan''s songs are written about her, when the truth is that she wrote much more about him than he ever did about her.
She lives a very comfortable life in Portola Valley, Ca., she must have invested well. I used to live nearby, and some people I know have met her or had dealings with her.%0D\
They all liked her, and have absolutely no interesting gossip to report. She''s just a nice, friendly, neighbor lady.
"Play Me Backwards" is the best album title ever.
Joan is and always has been a very nice person. She lived in La Honda when I did in the 1970''s, which is just over the hill across Skyline Dr. from Woodside where she now lives iwith her mom, who must be 95 or 97 by now. \
She was typical of our age group and made a few mistakes, but damn few in comparison to the rest of us. \
Why all this interest in Joan?
R26, that''s a common story of a lot of celebs who are suspect of being lesbian/gay.
One thing she does share with Hanoi Jane is the complete absence of a sense of humor. Both sour, sour people.
A few things about Baez:%0D\
- She does have a sense of humor. There''s a video of her on Youtube with another singer doing the theme song to "All in the Family" and Baez nails the Edith Bunker voice.%0D\
- Her biography is a fun read, especially the section on her appearance at "Live Aid". She writes a scathing review of Madonna''s performance, and mentions that Madonna was to sing with her at the finale, but backed out. She was also to sing with Sheena Easton, who decided to play diva and hog the mic instead.
I have a ton of respect for Joan Baez, and heve seen her perform many times since my first experience seeing Baez in person in Boston in 1962.%0D\
She may have a sense of humor off stage, but, especially in the early days, Baez was sooo serious. In that ''62 concert, she got angry if people had to leave for a moment and visit the bathroom.
Who''s Kim, R14?
Did she say she was "bi," R17?
I hate her voice.\
At least Joni outgrew that high-pitch.
she did a cool tour with the indigo girls a while back
Baez is touring again right now. She hasn''t been able to sing the high notes for decades. But is a lot more fun on stage.
At least Joan apologized for her misplaced anti-American comments. We''re still waiting for Hanoi Jane to admit she was wrong.
In her autobiography, Baez notes that one evening early in her career, two guys in her audience kept laughing. She realized it was because she came across as so earnest and serious so she started playing it up in concert.%0D\
One album I have of live performances from the early 60s has Joan covering "She''s a Troublemaker" and "Little Darling" and really nailing them. From the way the audience reacts at first (you can hear a gasp) and then roars with laughter, they were taken by surprise that this Baez girl has a sense of humor.
really? you''re still waiting? how sad for you.
Anyone who has to make a conscious effort to try to be funny doesn''t have a sense of humor. It''s why Fonda''s comedic performances are embarassing and why Baez'' feeble attempts at onstage humor are just self-conscious and cringe-worthy.
interesting r46, but I still can''t stand her vibrato, sorry
Joan Baez is human. Period. All of the idolatry she received did her no good. She is on Youtube doing a duet with Judy Collins, Diamonds and Rust. Baez looks and sounds awful. Collins has had very good plastic surgery, kept her hair long (weaves, whatever) and had her vocal chords regenersted. Baez looks just plain OLD. She must have realized this because she appeared at the Academy Awards some time after the duet and had obviously had her face and neck lifted. She was in a low cut black dress. I admired her way back when but at the present time don't give a flip for the past.
It's a pity but Joanie is a big fucking diva. Smug as can be. Thinks her shit smells like crushed pineapple.
She's gay and frequents Chantilly Restaurant in Redwood City with the girls.
Once in Paris during an interview the journalist said something like "being American, do you..." She interrupted saying "I'm not typically American in any way."
At her sister's funeral she said something like "luckily we have a close friend who is a nurse. She took care of Mimi - so Mimi didn't have to be touched by strangers."
At a town hall meeting in Woodside, Ca she cried like a hormone raging lunatic as she pleaded with the board to get rid of the Horse Park across from her home. Never mind the horse park had been there for the enjoyment of many decades before J moved to town.
What a disappointment. Elitist to the core.
OP, I too was taken to one of her concerts by my sitter. I think it was at The Garden. I remember going to HoJo's afterward and having pink peppermint ice cream and oatmeal cookies so I know it was someplace in NYC.
She was amazing. I asked for all her albums after that concert. Her incredible voice inspired a generation. I especially loved when she did a Dylan song so I could actually understand the words.
Oh for God sake R42. Fonda was right about Viet Nam. It was a dirty, illegal, immoral war. This country, our military, raped and tortured and murdered millions of innocent Vietnamese men, women and children, much like what happened and is still happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and every other country the Military Industrial Complex decides to make billions off of.
[quote]She's gay and frequents Chantilly Restaurant in Redwood City with the girls
Bob Dylan and Steve Jobs (if he were alive) would disagree.
R52 nobody has the right to evolve over 40 years? She has a biological son as well. So what?
R54 - You're kidding right?
The default position is that someone with a heterosexual past evolved to gay over a 40 year period?
R55 How old are you?
In this case it would seem an acknowledged bisexual may over time have come to appreciate one gender over the other. Trust me, Baez, a local girl, is gay, not that I give a shit. I like dick.