Bottoms without boners

It could still be a pleasurable experience for him. Do him doggystyle so you don't have to look at Mr. Limpet.

Would you eat Tom Cruise's ass?

I've wondered about this. Some guys are hard and come when they bottom (within a good experience) while others never do, regardless of performance. Completely limp. Do they really enjoy it (bar medical problems)?

I knew a total bottom who proudly boasted of never doing "anything with [his] dick." He wouldn't touch it and he didn't like his top to touch either. It was an appendage that simply was there, like a goiter or oversize carbuncle.

Sometimes I don't get hard, but I don't seem to have much control over it. It depends if they hit the spot.

I want to make a donation but I can%C3%82%C2%B4t decide between "Doctors Without Borders" or "Bottoms Without Boners"

Bottoms that leak a lot of precum are even hotter than hard bottoms.

After a certain age--and not even all that old--maybe still in your 20s, your dick needs stimulation to stay hard especially if you're getting fucked. While getting fucked, bottoms are mostly soft unless they're continually masturbating while getting pounded...and even then bottoms have flaccid dicks for the most part.

Funny you should mention that R8. I usually just engage in oral but consider myself a top for the most part. The last 3 times I tried to top a guy I went soft after I put a condom on. I'm a little worried I'll end up being a bottom.

I know I'm in the minority, but I love seeing the Eastern European porn where the bottoms never get hard. I almost feel like they're being pounded so hard that they can't get hard, on account of the aggressiveness... I know that's not realistic, but that's how I choose to interpret it.

Oral here. I'm a top in the sense that I prefer to take control and have the dominant role if there is one. However, I don't fuck, and don't really want to. But I'm certainly not a bottom. I do not want to get fucked at all. No desire, and it hurts like hell. I get no pleasure bottoming whatsoever.%0D %0D And R9...if you're not used to fucking like me, I can go limp if I try...or I shoot way too soon--like almost instantly--so actually attempting to do the fucking is not for me.

I want to see some Eastern European porn.

lol r6, that's exactly what I thought of. Either donation would be to a good cause.

When I bottom I often get hard especially if my partner touches me. It often takes me just a few minutes only to cum though so there you have it. It is the best way I like having sex.

My 25 y/o FB always gets a hard-on when I fuck him and he always comes, even if it's the 3rd , 4th or 5th time he's come in 24 hours. In fact, he's always hard even before I start to fuck him just out of sheer horniness. Ahh youth!

So if you are a bottom and have a flacid dick while being fucked, are you still enjoying the sex?

A flaccid bottom is also a sloppy hole. With a hard on, everything is tighter and the muscles are firmer. Turgidity has its benefits. With a raging hard-on, a thick cock pistoning the monk in the cave and a clenched hole muscle, honey, ride me hard and put me away wet!

You are so wrong, r.17. How many times have you bottomed??? Twice?? Lots and lots of bottoms leak a lot of pre-cum and go back and forth from hard to soft depending on what's happening with the top's motions, speed, etc.

My bf pisses me off when he cums before I start to fuck him. I'm hoping age will take care of that little problem

I always assume my tricks have severe drug problems when they can't get hard and need a bump.

r18 = hot dog down hallway who needs a spank to tighten the gaping maw.

"A flaccid bottom is also a sloppy hole."%0D %0D Is R17 saying that he's impotent?

No, r17 is a tight hole, hard cock bottom. You are confusing me with r18, the limp drippy dick.

R11, you think of yourself as a top, but you can't properly fuck?

This thread is really bringing out DL's eloquence.

As long as his hole is tight and wet, I'm happy. What else do you need?

R26, you sound like a typical selfish straight cad. Don't you care if your partner is getting off?

Thanks Op, I've been looking for a name for my band for months.

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My partner and I have always been versatile--it was a requirement for both of us (fortunately it worked). I understand the loss of an erection when one is really intoxicated, has had a lot of sex that day, or when one is especially stressed. This has happened a time or two every few months for me for the last 5 years (we're both early 30s but have been together for more than a dozen years). It seems to bother him more than me, but certainly not enough to be an issue (he just worries that I have lost interest or something). We have always had really good sex and I can say that for those few times that I wasn't hard that I still really enjoyed it. He's totally a boy stuck in puberty and is always hard. I personally think a sign of true love is consistently coming at the same time (of course this is not always, but definitely most of the time).

"I personally think a sign of true love is consistently coming at the same time (of course this is not always, but definitely most of the time)."

That's so cute, R30. It's not always easy to do, but I agree with you - that's romantic gay love right there.

Personally, I find it hot.

I can't help but get hard as a rock when I'm getting boned - so hard I can't even touch my cock much until I'm ready to shoot because it pushes me over the edge so easily.

I like it when the top is so aggressive, he DEMANDS that I am soft at all times.

Limp sail at night, faggot's delight - that's what they always say. Or something like that.

Some of ya'll really do enjoy talking about gay sex... so much so that it makes you sound like faggots in high school. Silly litte twits.

If you don't stay hard when you fuck or get fucked you're simply not turned on by the guy. If you are you would.

Most 'mos simply have sex for the sake of having it.

The only thing worse than a bottom without a boner is a boner without a bottom.

[quote]If you don't stay hard when you fuck or get fucked you're simply not turned on by the guy. If you are you would.

IKR? The above explains why guys who fuck women can't be gay, only bisexual.

Hands up anyone who'd have sex with r36. Anyone?

I've had many, many of them, and my experience is that the majority of bottoms do lose their erections once you get going. My theory always was the center of physical pleasure shifting so dramatically. Almost like the body was saying, yeah that felt really good, but this is ... OMG!

[quote]The above explains why guys who fuck women can't be gay, only bisexual.

Well duh????

If a guy has sex with women by definition he's not homosexual.

Homo means "man"

Uh, no r42. Homo means "same."

In my youth, when I bottomed a lot, I was always had a boner, but I couldn't cum while being fucked. As much as anyone tried, it just wouldn't happen. After my buddy had finished, he'd jerk me off, or I'd finish myself off. The timing sucked, but the sex was hot.

Then I met a guy who loved giving blow jobs... fantastic blow jobs... No problemo.

I actually WANT to stay soft. When I'm hard I usually cum, then it hurts to be fucked. I really don't care anything about being hard or not or even cumming (like that). Any ideas on what I can do to eliminate erections?

It hurts!!!!!

I'm serious. I want to know if there's a trick to not getting hard.

Would it be weird if I said that I actually get turned on by flaccid bottoms? I think it's a dominance thing. I really get off on seeing the contrast of my big hard dick next to their little flaccid one. Leaves no room for doubt about who the top is and who the bottom is.

R4, I also knew a guy once who had no interest in me paying any attention to his dick. He just wanted to get fucked and was damn good at it.

Why bother? Well, of course, it's more exciting to get fucked while your cock is rock hard, but it can still be pleasurable. I can come without a hard on.

I always have a hard on when I get fucked but as soon as I come, I want the dick out of my ass. It becomes uncomfortable, not painful. It just doesn't feel....right. I always keep myself on edge the whole time I have sex. When the top guy cums, I can cum with his dick still in my ass. Just no more fucking after that point. Btw I like to fuck and get fucked. Life is more fun that way.

I am a total bottom pussy and get gang-banged up to 40 times in one session and never get hard.For me,and most insatiable bottoms whores,it's all about our "KUNTS" and having it pounded in long and hard and taking loads,loads,loads !There is no time or need for erections.All the sensation is in the ass for a true bottom slut !The penis is erect and ejaculates only when I masturbate.I am NOT impotent !Just true pussy-boy cunt !I am masculine,HOT,white,slender,32 and luv HUGE black dick pounding at it for hours and using me as a load-dump.I attend private sex-orgies in N.Y.C. where they need bottom Ho'S like me to service the horny,usually closeted Bi tops !

Try getting fucked without a prostate and see what happens.

Speaking from experience, R53?

[54}: Yes, it was surgically removed in November 2007 and I'm not the woman I used to be!

Dear r53, would you please elaborate what your life is like now, post prostate cancer? I'm 50, was a power bottom, and all signs (enlarged, high PSA result) and symptoms are pointing to a prostate cancer diagnosis.

Am getting a CT scan and biopsy next week. I've had so much fun with my prostate for many years, but would prefer to live without it if it takes my symptoms away.

Can you also describe any symptoms prior to your diagnosis?

Yeah, I know. I should google it.

I get fucked without a really hard boner. I love the guy filling me up and making me submit.

[56}: Had an elevated PSA summer of 2007, then a biopsy and several of the random tissues samples came back positive for cancer. Urologist who did the biopsy (a former, married love of mine) forgot to prescribed Cipro (a necessity!) and I almost died from a septic infection.

Shopped around for various approaches: seeding, radiation, radical surgery. I chose the last one which was done with nerve-sparing. No complications. What they don't tell you is that you'll lose about an inch of dick length. It happens when surgeon detaches the urethra from the bladder and then reconnects it. My surgeon said he "stretched" my dick on the operating table, but I still ended up with a smaller dick. It will happen even if you choose the robotic procedure.

I can masturbate and have a thunderous orgasm but no ejaculate any more. Cock never gets fully hard even while jerking off. I choose not to take a steady diet of Viagra. Perhaps that would help with the lack for firmness.

I got fucked the other night and felt nothing other than pain from the latex condom rubbing against my anal opening. No matter how much lube you use, latex can cause tears in the mucosa. And at 65, I have an old asshole, but no hemorrhoids.

Good luck with whatever course of treatment you choose. Your sex life will not be the same anymore.

Thanks for sharing, r58. I need to know the truth. Am "only" 50.

It's been a fun ride; I would just like to be able to pee again.

I used to cum hands-free with screaming orgasms while bottoming. Fortunately, there are other pleasures in life.

Turns out I have a 6cm abscess growing right next door to Mr. Prostate. Am relieved that it is not ass cancer.

Some total macho tops don't want their bottoms to be erect. A lot of tops don't even want to acknowledge the bottom has a penis because it makes the top seem more manly when the bottom is emasculated, so much less manly than the top. A lot of bithugs/homothugs on the DL wont even touch the bottom's penis because they want to disassociate their bottom as being fully male.

Congrats, R60.

It's nice to hear some good news in relation to a scare like that.

R61, I agree with you. My partner is fem and totally bottom. He isn't always soft, but he never pays attention to his dick and doesn't care for it if I do either. I have noticed that he gets into it more if he's soft, which is probably what has got me into it more. I'm beginning to suspect he's the one who's wanting to know how to STAY soft. If it's him, it doesn't look like anyone has really answered him yet. I know he enjoys being soft, and I enjoy him enjoying being soft, so I hope someone has a trick to it. This is why I think it's him. He mentioned cumming "that way". He has this thing where he orgasms, but it's not with his dick. I've never heard of such a thing in a guy. Anyone else experience this?

Any one can cum when being fucked by a guy, feels amazing

I'm a 40yo masculine guy who lives in a rural state. Seems like everyone mistakes me for a top in the bars but I am all bottom, all the time since age 20 and have no desire to be versatile. Haven't even received a bj in 7-8 years even though I love giving them. I simply refuse to play with guys who aren't willing to do all the topping duties. Heck, I'd rather be celibate than be versatile.

That said, I HATE having my cock played with or sucked, and over years of getting fucked exclusively I've learned to enjoy it without playing with my own cock. I do get intense anal orgasms though, it's like my ass doesn't even need much lube I get so moist during a good pounding, and I can go for hours. I'd probably be a slut/power bottom but I don't live in the big city and have a variety of toys to keep me busy. I have been told by many hung, experienced guys that I am "amazing", lol. Have had a few marriage proposals but no one wants to move here and I make way too much money locally to leave (almost but not quite 7 figures). I also have managed to stay HIV negative due to being serially monogamous and being mostly safe in my younger years.

Yeah, I'm proud that my cock isn't a part of the equation during sex. I wear a jock strap so my partner doesn't get distracted by it. I am a master of douching and timing so my ass stays clean. I like really dominant guys and rough sex where the top can fuck as hard and long as he likes, and can take a it like a champ from the biggest dicks. I also learned to be an excellent deepthroater by necessity so am basically the real deal for "selfish" tops who dig masculine types.

I just recently met a guy who is into masculine total bottoms and loves to fuck so much he is actually moving out here to nowheresville just so we can fuck like crazed rabbits on crack and he never has to pretend to be vers or suck cock ever again. Yeah, he'll never have to work again since I make about 20 times his salary in the city and just want him to be my full time companion.

Total win/win situation every time we have sex. He gets a willing clean hole and I get a load or three of his DNA daily. Versatile guys will never have that...too busy arguing about who gets to do what to whom and when...

I had a friend who joined Bottoms Without Boners, or was that Bottoms with Borders? Doctors Without Boners? Oh well, in any case, he did some of his best work with them.

Even though R6 said the same thing years ago, you thought it would be funny to repeat it, why exactly?

I've met many bottoms who stay flaccid and want no attention to be paid to their dicks. Passive total bottoms turn me on.

One hung bottom even kept a jockstrap on until he realized I had not even groped his dick over several fuck sessions. I have little interest in his cock. i guess he didn't want to be asked to top.

I've known bottoms who have hands-free anal orgasms and ejaculate with a limp dick. Fun all around.

If my bottom can't get hard and stay hard, I end the relationship. Total turn off, wee Willie winkie just nubbing.

I'm pretty driven at work...kind of alpha/aggressive and have a lot of responsibility over important decisions. I am also closeted to my company (but not family/friends).

The gym just isn't enough of an outlet for my libido. The outlet for all that pent up masculine energy is to be a total bottom in the bedroom. The more passive I am and the more he can deliver a good pounding the better. I don't look at the fact that I only get fucked as being feminine at all. I doubt most guys could handle the kind of fucking I prefer.

Thank goodness for those few total tops who dig us masculine guys who bottom out on the DL. It takes a real man to get nailed like a bitch every night.

I love (65)

I'm a 23 y/o slim blonde... often called a twink... but totally love fucking - TOP only. I have a 8.5" very thick cock... and LOVE LOVE pounding ass. I think it's a total turnon to fuck a bottom that is totally limp... In fact, seeing a totally soft cock as I push head of my cock on their hole gets me SO FUCKING HARD SO FAST... It's not near as hot if they are hard... and actually turns me off if they are constantly stroking themselves while I'm trying to fuck. I love to knock a bottoms hand off their cock... and/or fuck in a position where they cannot j/o. Love to go a long time and edge, and like knowing the bottom can't cum and thus stays hungry for my cock... for as long as I want. The only time I let the bottom touch themselves, is when they grab their junk to pull out of way so they can see my cock in/out of their hole... and even hotter is when I grab their limp cock/balls and pull to the side. Been fucking this hot buff guy in his 30's that I've finally trained not to touch himself and stay limp for me... Finally convinced that the only cock that needs to be hard and his attention is mine! Seems hard to find good total bottoms these days!!

R72 are you cut or not? Do you like to do it raw/bareback?

As a top they are usually a turn-off to me.

I'm the opposite of R70, when it comes to my career, I am NOT alpha or aggressive. At work, I am bossed around and not the other way around. I work in a field I don't care for and it frustrates me, so when it gets to the bedroom, I release all that frustration. Usually, I'm horniest right after work and I think that's when my frustration with work hits its peak. In the bedroom, that's when the alpha/agressive side of me come out. It's funny I tend to date guys that are alpha at work and totally submissive in the bedroom. I had an ex who everyone thought was the top (very dominant in his field of work), and that I was the bottom since I was more relaxed and easy-going. It turned me on knowing that they were wrong and I would soon dominate one of those alpha dudes at work that I hate and secretly think would be total bitches in bed. I can't beat them at work, but I dominate them in the bedroom and that makes me feel better about working for more powerful men.

I've had weird experiences with bottoms that don't get hard though. I can't help but feel they have major self-loathing issues. For example, I hooked up with this one guy who never got hard. After our first night together, I was disappointed because he never got hard and I thought that meant he didn't really like me. I thought he was out of m league, so I really liked him. Anyway, he contacts me again and again he doesn't get hard. I ask him why and he tells me he gets off without getting hard. I decided if that was the case then I would stop worrying about his lack of erections. After this, we were more open with each other and I started noticing different things about him. He would always refer to his ass as a pussy, which would turn me off. When I was fucking his gorgeous ass, I didn't want to hear him telling me how good I was fucking his pussy. Then, even though I never showed any interest in girls, he started talking about how I was bisexual and whether his pussy felt better than a woman's. He was so hot, I just went along with it. Never denying or confirming what he assumed. I also realized he liked to be treated like a bitch outside of the bedroom as well. He also told me about how he only dates straight or bisexual guys and never gay guys because gay guys aren't manly enough. I may like a bitch in the bedroom but not out of it. I ended up hooking up with two other bottoms without boners, and they had very similar issues about wishing they had pussies and were women and only hook up with "straight" guys. One of them didn't even think I was bi, he was convinced I was straight because I loved eating his "pussy" so much. There was a fourth guy that told me he didn't get hard or like to get hard because guys always wanted him to top when he was fully erect, and as a bottom he hated how some total tops became vers when they saw him hard. He was probably the only one that didn't freak me out. He referred to his ass as an ass, and didn't buy into the bi/straight shit guys rely on when it comes to casual encounters.

So as a top, I find them to be turn-off, but I overlook it for while cause sometimes I'll pull up with lots of bs as long as your ass is gorgeous and mine.

r61, tops that have issues with acknowledging that their bottoms have dicks aren't macho, they are insecure. If they were macho, they'd acknowledge the fact they love to fuck MEN instead of trying to pretend they are fucking a woman (which they think make them less gay).

Lots of those "straight" tops are the biggest pussies around. REAL men aren't cowards that find comfort in closets, they stand proud of who they are.

I don't understand men who don't want to have their dicks played with/acknowledged. Whatever floats your boat but from my perspective it just seems fucked up. We are men, we have a penis, it's our sexual organ. I like topping but I could never be with a guy that didn't want me to have some fun with his dick.

I'm a gay dude, I like dick.

I know, R76, right? He might as well be a girl.

R76, what don't you understand?

You sound like a gay dude who is confident is his own skin. Bottoms and top that are insecure over their sexuality are typically the ones who fall for this shit.

I have a bottom buddy who gets harder the rougher I treat him - pulling his hair, pushing his face down, smacking his ass, etc.

He's a big guy, too - probably 8, 8.5 - and I'm much smaller. For me that makes it much hotter - I can grab his cock and feel how much he loves getting fucked...

Sometimes while getting fucked, I lose my erection. That doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't feel terrific inside.

R74, I've been saying that on this board for years, but no one ever listens.

The reason many of the gay guys here hate straight women (and lesbians, for that matter) is because they wish THEY had a pussy. It's plain and simple pussy envy.

By the way, I never wished for one second I had a penis -- I think they're ugly and repulsive. Sixty-two percent of women have never had an orgasm from penis-vagina intercourse, so frankly, you're a better lover for a woman if you DON'T have one.

R81 Yeah well 100% of women wouldn't be here without them so they ain't all bad. Oh and is there a DL equivalent to Mary! for lesbins like Lester! Harry! or maybe Timmy! I'm asking for reasons unrelated to the post I'm quoting of course...

Also this thread topic sounds like what would happen if they did charity porn parodies, how do you say bottoms without borners in French?

"Sometimes while getting fucked, I lose my erection."

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This must be an east coast/west coast behavior.

Here in the flyover states tops and bottoms like to get hard and cum.

A lesbian pointing the finger at gay men for wanting the opposite sex's genitalia is the most pot-meet-kettle thing I've read here in MONTHS (and why do dykes use strap-ons again?). It is almost as funny as a lesbian calling a gay man a "woman hater," when lesbians are the most notorious, boorish man-haters of them all.

At the very least, gay men do not mimic straight couples with that weirdo butch-femme stuff. Lesbians purposely go out of their way to look like men, walk like men, act like men, etc.

I'm not sure why a "Top" would want his bottom's penis to stay limp or not touch it at all? I'm a top and I enjoy masturbating a man's penis while I give him anal sex.

R81 so I guess it is true that women get orgasms from getting oral sex and not vaginal sex.

As a top, I find bottoms who don't get hard really sexy. I'm also not opposed to pussy talk. But guys that can't leave that in the bedroom are a turn off. I still want a man.

R89 why do some gay men call their ass a "pussy", "man pussy", "man cunt" etc. yet sometimes they hate women, and I have also met a few gay men who told me they are not Trans but they said they wanted their penis changed into a vagina or castrated and completely removed and they are total botoms?

R81 - google clitoris. Then you might understand why a women would get an orgasm from oral sex and not penetrative vaginal sex.

If you are a straight dude the next time you have vaginal sex with a woman - ask yourself why she is rubbing herself while you do her. It's not for your pleasure.

I love R76 and agree 1000%.

I agree about pussy envy but dont think it's nec about self loathing. My mate is also kind of a pussyboy, but it's just something that turns him on, like any fantasy or dirty talk. It turns me on too.

Yeah, I do think he gets jealous of girls' p-card (real and figurative), but that doesn't mean he hates himself. I get jealous of guys who make more money than me etc etc. Envy doesn't have to define a person.

I just laughed out loud at R6

I don't mind a limp dick, what I really hate is when I'm topping a zombie and suddenly his dick falls off.

R81 some women claim they can get a g-spot orgasm from vaginal sex and that for them it's more pleasurable than a clitoral orgasm. Not all women are wired the same just like not all men are since there are men who are more into oral sex who aren't into bottoming or prostate stimulation at all.

I'm a total bottom who has never had anyone touch my cock. What you need to understand is that, when done right, the anal stimulation becomes a replacement for the penile one. I can come too easily if I play with my dick. The ass can go on for hours and I'm still going strong. Plus, when you get into it, being penetrated feels VERY good.

It's the best sex ever!

[quote]I don't understand men who don't want to have their dicks played with/acknowledged. Whatever floats your boat but from my perspective it just seems fucked up.

Someone in the anal orgasm thread said that having an anal orgasm is like getting your dick fucked from the inside. That is a brilliant and accurate description of how it feels to have your hole opened. It basically feels like you have a pussy. Even I know that and I love to top. I have a hard time getting stimulated in that way back there, Ive only had a handful of ass orgasms, so its just not for me. But thank God for whore bottoms that get them all the time.

So just because the bottom isn't getting his dick stimulated from the outside doesnt mean it's neglected.

I am a bottom and as said above can go soft and hard depending on how my bf is doing me. yes sometimes it hurts but its usually because we are both in a bad position. whether hard or soft, I leak without any contact. I have too say I can't say which I prefer, cumming when soft or hard its a different feeling but both satisfying.

my bf likes to see me get hard and soft during longer sessions, he likes to do me missionary or with mirrors so he can see how my cock reacts especially if I am leaking alot.

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If you want to have sex without a boner, it beats being a top.

I a bi top. Goodlooking, Tall and muscular ... Manhood is about 7uc.

I love pussy and women, but i'm kinda shy and socially retarded around any woman that is better than a 5/10

Anyways, I spend a lot of free time fucking guy ass as it's plentyful and always willing. My favoriy is smooth, soft, fem, sub types with tiny uncut baby dicks that dont get hard.. I get ranging hard on for that when I can find it.

However, on a number of occasions, i been in bed with a guy that is larger and harder than me.. When this happens I can't get hard or top him.. I can't look at that thing. So what I usually do in those cases is suck his cock and let him fuck me. It usually psychologically affects me for a few weeks and then all I want to do is bottom until I can't stand it any more. It happens to me once and I spent a month going to a XXX book store in the ghetto looking for 9+ thugs to use me. My wife found blood in my boxers one day from all the anal I was doing and I looked surprised and said I had hemeriods.

I have not bottomed in over 2 years. Mostly cause I just don't see why a guy would want to top me when I look like a lumberjack, I'm never clean back there and I don't even like dick as much as I like the action and pillow talk.

I'm a bottom with a 9 inch cock and when I'm getting fucked my cock is pumped up to the biggest it can possibly get. Especially if I'm being fucked by a big, powerful, hairy sweaty alpha male who's fucking me like he wants to destroy my arse. Sometimes being done like this forces the spunk out of me with me not touching/barely touching my cock.

Although I have no control over getting erections when I'm being fucked and I will play with my cock I really don't need to as it feels so amazing anyway. I quite like it when tops don't touch my dick or play with it as it usually means they're true alphas. Sometimes guys see a big cock and want me to fuck them and the realization that they're not my superior or a true alpha makes my cock floppy in seconds.

I don't think guys who don't acknowledge the bottoms cock always have issues. Many of my tops after perhaps initial interest in my cock soon realise that they enjoy their time better when I'm sucking their cock and taking a hammering off them. They soon lose interest in my dick. A couple of my tops and in particular one 250lb hairy sweaty alpha with a ridiculously big fat cock who's never even touched my dick doesn't let me touch mine. The man enjoys the power and dominance he has over me (he's out and gay). Last time we met after several hours of serving his cock, being bullied and generally doing everything he wanted he bent me over and gave me the usual hard fucking. I went to wank myself off and he stopped me before sending me away without cumming. We both left completely satisfied. We are comfortable around each other, me as his inferior and him as the dominant alpha male. Some men are meant to be served and it's an honour to serve them. When there is such a mismatch between an alpha and a fag bottom, many tops and bottoms are very aroused and feel comfortable when these roles are being reinforced.

I almost always go soft a few minutes after a guy enters me unless I keep wanking (or take a viagra thirty minutes before), but it doesn't change the pleasure I feel. Although there's nothing quite as pleasurable for me as being fucked, it does feel marginally better (but possibly its a'll psychological) if I stay hard. It seems to me tops like it more too, perhaps because I have 21cm cock and looking down on that all rock hard and bouncing up and down is a bit more carnal than looking at a limp one?

Sorry, cut myself off, had to comment on (extremist) lesbian rubbish above about men not delivering orgasms to women; dicks being ugly, redundant, etc. I'm bi (versatile but much prefer being a bottom) and married I always use my fingers (easy) or the angling of my cock (difficult) to make my woman cum as I fuck her, unless she says she just wants it straight out animal and rough; that is; hard, dirty, dominant, without foreplay. Surprisingly enough, considering all the negative shit out there about straight men not delivering the goods, and oral sex being the only thing that gets women off, I've found that most women actually want minimal foreplay and hard "animal" fucking probably thirty to fifty percent of the time, but only after you've first established with them that you are prepared to give them a great orgasm 100% of the time if they want. After an "animal fuck" my wife usually masturbates using my cum as lube or I orally stimulate her as I stimulate her G-spot, then at the last minute finger her anus, when she goes off like the Eiffel Tower on New Year's Eve. She loves men, has no interest in women, thinks as I do that cocks are incredibly sexy and beautiful, and perhaps because she's amazing and because I rim and fuck her bum she has no problem understanding my need to go out and be fucked hard too, as a very submissive girl when I need to. She tells me that her vagina on its own feels very little pleasure nor does her anus, it's only when they are stimulated in unison with her clit and G-spot that all together they push her over the edge into a thunderous, very loud orgasm where she actually produces enough female ejaculate to soak the bed. Also I am one of those gender-conflicted guys who genuinely believes that their anus is a stand alone sex organ which transcends it's more utilitarian purpose, it is undeniably, a male "pussy" with it's own pathway to orgasm and also erogenous zones which are quite different from when I fuck a woman. Even my wife who often fucks me with a strap-on, says she wishes she could experience from either her pussy or her anus the paralysing spasms of pleasure I get from mine. She reckons bi men like me are extremely blessed to be able to get pleasure from both their genders, from both cock and pussy. A few parting comments about having a big cock: Of course few women are so shallow as to knock a guy back because of his small cock, but I've been with so many and know absolutely that the "size doesn't matter" story is one they reserve for nice guys with small cocks. Any woman who has experienced a big cock used properly, will forever after greatly prefer 8" to 5 or 6". Also 99% of straight or bi women in my experience simply can't get enough of sucking on extra big cocks. I'd had vaginal sex with about sixty women before I was married and I can't remember even one of them who also didn't constantly want to suck me off, to the point where it got boring. On top of those were another seven or so who only lasted one or two dates because they refused to let my big cock inside them, believing they were too small. However each of these insisted on giving me oral before heading on their way. So much for women finding the male penis unattractive. The one very real and damaging problem with a big cock is that I often felt like a real freak at a woman's reaction when she first lay eyes on it. That was partially what made me feel so much more comfortable sexually with gay and bi guys who tend to respond more moderately. But as a bottom for men, I'm not all that different myself, I love sucking big cocks, and the thicker the cock the better it feels inside me, but unless the guy is really good at it, any longer than 7" becomes too painful. Fortunately most guys who tell you they want to fuck you with their eight or nine inches usually turn out to be around seven. So although I'm a bit over 21cms myself, or close to 9" as measured from from tummy to tip, from my experience the ideal size for penetrative sex is; up the bum 6 to 7", and in the pussy 8"

Most bottoms I know don't stay hard. A few want nothing to do with their dicks not even cum. Some precum a lot or cum hands freed while soft. They all enjoy the bumsex. The total sub bottoms are my preferred.

I am a married totally bisexual male. A very eager bottom where mansex is concerned. Mid fifties. I can fuck my (female) wife very well and enjoy hetero sex with gusto. I also have a gay lover and we get togther when we can. He is in his seventies but he is super potent without Viag or ofher assistance other than my eagerly sucking mouth sometimes. He is even a repeat cummer. He and I are also in love. I would not want to give up either and both partners are happy with the triangle, although neither wants to be part of anything resembling a threesome. Fine with me.

When with a lady I am happy with hetero sex and when with my boyfriend I am like totally gay when we make love. . Sooo comfortable either way. I like pussy and also need my cock and cum.

I have loved getting fucked in my man pussy since my youth. I love sucking cock and love cum. I have always been an eager bottom and can have an orgasm if a man plays with my nipples and makes out while he is fucking me. But, while I might get a boner during foreplay, once he is inside me and the serous fucking starts and I get lost in giving my man pleasure and receiving pleasure form his cock, my own cock stays soft unless I am jacking while I get fucked, which I almost never do because its all about his cock and the magic it is working in my hungry pussy, stroking myself would just detract from the pleasure. Besides my hands are usually occupied caressing and touching him. Often they are occupied with a nice ass cheek in each hand, urging him deeper and helping him pound me mindless.

On occasion, after my man and I make love and we're cuddling up in the afterglow with my arms around him and my sweet over's nice bubble butt snuggled up against me, I feel myself getting firm and often if I have not ejaculated yet, I become inspired to fuck his sweet tight hot pussy too. Raging boner then! And that has been happening more often lately.

So, for me anyway, a softie while getting fucked is entirely normal and in no way indicative that the sex is not good. Sex is ALWAYS great with him.

They're straight.

Sometimes, the stimulation in the rectum can be so strong that it keeps the bottom's penis from getting hard.

I think pre-cum is a better measurement of how much pleasure the bottom is getting from the kissing, the thrusting, etc.

Maybe I'm weird but I always get hard when I'm getting fucked. I can cum hands free if the top is good.

Only one bf I had didn't get me hard when he fucked me but his technique was like a cross between a stray dog and a jackhammer. I'd get hard when we were cuddling or kissing but once he put it in I went limp because he just had no rhythm at all. He was trying too hard and we weren't connected.

If your bottom is not hard, he is not turned on and not enjoying it even if he tells you he is. He is just trying to spare your feelings. Try going a little slower, varying your rhythm, kissing him, switching positions, playing with his nipples a bit. Tell him how great it feels to be inside him. Sometimes just knowing I'm giving my man a lot of pleasure turns me on.

If I don’t have a boner, that means you’re not doing it right.

I love it when the bottom does NOT get hard. I like the idea that they realize that they're just a hole to be fucked and their cock is irrelevant to the process.

[quote]Bottoms without boners

That was our first choice, but they beat us to it.

Get it?

BEAT?!

I would hate sex with r112. The fact that I’m turned on should make you even more turned on, so that our boners become a feedback loop.

Maybe the bottom just isnt into you

I like it if the bottom is hard or soft. Hard is great because I can see how turned on the guy is getting dicked. And it's so great when I announce I'm about to cum and the guy cums too, right on schedule. But I find it hot too with guys who don't get hard and don't cum. It puts me in total control of the penetration, the fucking, ect. I love the attitude of, "I'm here for you to use." I have one fuck buddy who says he never gets hard at all anymore (he's 38) but he leaks a lot of precum and I can fuck him for over an hour, stop, rest, get hard again, go and go and go and he's always right there ready and willing.

I don't care if my bottom doesn't even have a dick.

R117 why don’t you just fuck a flashlight then? I always thought my reaction was part of what turned tops on.

There's more to a bottom's reaction than his dick.

I much prefer a hard bottom when topping- means they’re turned on and of course more fun to play with.

R120 is the only one in this thread about to fuck me. Let us go to the supply closet, R120.