MADONNA really does put her career before her kids!\
According to a new report, the superstar singer tells her kids they have to make an appointment if they want to spend time with her.\
Madge %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94 who has four children %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94 relies on her personal assistants to schedule time for her with Lourdes, Rocco, David and Mercy in 15-minute increments.\
%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CThe children are said to have appointments made to see their mother, who will help with homework, or sing, or even make food with them %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%93 but only if it has been planned in advance,%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D Britain%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s Daily Mail newspaper reports.\
The kids reportedly have three nannies %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94 all of whom speak French, as they%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99re being raised to be bilingual %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94 and two macrobiotic chefs.
Big deal. If they''re fishing for dirt and that''s the best they can do it''s pretty lame. Kids themselves have such hectic schedules these days you sometimes feel like THEY need to fit you into THEIR calendar. It''s not unusual at all for busy parents and kids to schedule time together. At least M''s making her kids a priority. I''ll bet plenty of parents with far less hectic lives spend less time with their kids.
What does Madonna flavored Kool Aid teaste like anyway, R1?
This monster shouldn''t have been allowed to have kids or adopt.
Eh...I''m not a Madonna fan, but this sounds exaggerated to me. I bet nannies supervise a lot of their time (as happens with the super rich and famous), and they don''t spend a ton of time with her, but the 15-minute increments and requesting appointments sounds ludicrous. Lourds is old enough to want to spend a lot of time with her own friends, and the youngest one is what, barely in grade school?
I want to believe this, but you always see pics of her out with the kids and she even carries the younger ones when she could just have a bodyguard lug them around.\
My brother and his wife have 2 boys and they rarely see them...even on weekends. Kids are into sports practice, hanging with friends, PS3 junkies while my brother works 60 hour weeks and his wife is an evening waitress.\
Welcome to the New America.
Not a Vadge fan R2, not at all. Just a busy mom who gets it.
Why are they being taught French and not Spanish? I can''t remember where David and Mercy are from-- were they French-speaking countries?
R9, French has long been the second language of choice for the British upper classes, not to mention the language of taste and culture and sophistication. (Though, honestly, knowledge of Spanish - or Arabic or Chinese - would be more useful than French in today''s economy.) Even before she married (and divorced) Guy Ritchie, Madonna tried to act like a British aristocrat, hence French lessons for her kids.
I would have loved this arrangement with my parents.
"Hello? I''d like to schedule a weekly one-on-one with my mother. . .Yes, Friday at three is fine. . .Agenda items? Well, I guess those would include desired procurement of the Lego Airport Playset, proposed new menu items for lunchtime, and the regular weekly recap on my observations on whether or not Rocco is acting in a manner consistent with Kaballah beliefs or needs to be isolated again. . ."
What r11 said.
Glad to hear madge isn''t a helicopter mother.
Now why the Hell didn''t I think of that?
There are other ways to spin this story. How about?:%0D\
Although Madonna is one of the busiest women in the entertainment business, she is also one of the most organized. Despite her hectic schedule, she makes sure she has time to be with each of her children as often as possible by setting aside increments of time on each day''s agenda specifically for them. That way, she never fails to break away from whatever she''s working on to take Lourdes to ballet, cheer on Rocco at a football match, etc. etc...
Honestly, I think they''re better off.
r17 has a point...
Writing "Madonna Dearest" as I type.
R10 is right, but Spanish might have been a nice idea for Lourdes in order to be in touch with part of her roots.
three nannies? I bet Lourdes and Rocco each have their own and David and Mercy have to share.
Lord, the snark is just too much - I don''t feel sorry for those damned kids in the slightest. Ooooh, my mother is chilly and busy. Yeah, so was mine, working three jobs to support us, and as a result I was able to take care of myself and use my imagination. Those kids will never want for a damned thing, can choose literally any career path they like, and will be able to indulge almost any whim and fancy imaginable. Cry me a river.
I rather wish I had had a go-between and an appointment system in place, you know, just a little.
JonBen%C3%A9t Ramsey, late of Boulder, Colorado
Lourdes is 14; I don''t think she needs a nanny anymore, racist @ r22.
Christ you Queens are gullible. The only this sadder than you believe this shit is that you WANT to believe it.
I love you most of all. My birthday is in October. It would be really nice if you could come and sing for me. %0D\
I really liked your lkast album. Did you like it, too? Are you still friends with Justin Timberlake? He''s very handsome.%0D\
I''ve been weariung my mystical red string. I can''t study Kaballah because I''m Baptist but I wear the string because I know you would like that. Do you eat Oreos? I love Oreos. Especially with milk. I like to split the cookie and lick the cream off. %0D\
Do you think you''ll ever make another video? I like your videos.%0D\
I hear you''re making a movie about The Simpsons. That''s really cool.%0D\
I hope Lourdes and Rocco and David and the little girl are doing okay. Please make another new album and video. %0D\
This never happened.
Luckily for her kids, she keeps a busy appointment book.
"... and at 9:45 PM, Lourdes will bring me the axe."
Does anyone doubt that Madonna is a monster and that one of her poor children will turn out to be a serial killer?
Trust me she will disinherit all her kids for reasons they''re all too aware..........
This is news?\
I knew a family in the 70''s (4 kids as well) who did this. I think they called it their "quality time together" or something like that.
Spanish is an ugly language. Why would she want them to be taught Spanish?
That''s just stupid, r34.
Eso es simplemente est%C3%83%C2%BApido, r34.
seriously, FOR FUCKING YEARS AND YEARS, the gossip rags have been trying to dig up serious dirt on Madonna.\
So, we have the following:\
when she sleeps no one can make a sound in the house, not even to shower.\
her kids need to make an appointment to see her.\
Big deal. Gents, there is no smoking gun here, move on.
The tabs just ran a bunch of pictures of her smoking cigs while filming her new movie that she is directing, so she does still have some secrets.
Happiness Lies In Your Own Hand
When you treat your kids like a burden, rather than a gift. It''s a problem. When you treat your children like they are prisoners rather than beloved members of a family, it''s a problem. When you refuse to let your children have a mind of their own...there is a serious problem. Children are not robots and I feel sorry for all of her children. She''s a hateful bitch.
I thought that Madonna was supposed to be a good mom. Forcing your children to make appointments to see you is so wrong. Surely she could have found a better approach.
r40 and others, I also have a bridge to sell you....
I totally believe it. \
A lot of busy parents today like r7 would have this arrangement if they could afford it.
"I want to believe this, but you always see pics of her out with the kids and she even carries the younger ones when she could just have a bodyguard lug them around."\
Because she knows she''s going to be photographed. \
That fact is the overriding consideration for everything she does in public space.
two words: Daily Mail
She didn''t adopt them R3, she bought them, even the ones she gave birth to. And I can''t wait for the book(s).
Boy she''s a real piece of work. If you can''t make time for your kids, don''t have them. No matter how busy I got (as a single mom!) I always made sure that me and the kids had dinner together and I was a room mother for all my kids classes and went to all their parent teacher conferences. Kids are only kids once. Enjoy it.
I hope Jesus gets more than 15 minutes, so to speak.
My mother was the Edmond Hillary of social climbers, but even she was accessible for us kids without an appointment. At least she was accessible when she was in town.
People, people. Calm down. This never happened. It''s called a tabloid. Let me explain since you are all so dim and gullible. %0D\
A tabloid is a...
jesus, people are soooo stupid
I think Madonna had Lourdes because Sean Penn had kids first. The same way she had to direct because Guy is a director. She''s constantly competing with her exes. I always thought Rocco was her way of trapping Guy and that the two adopted kids were only for show.
R50 I don''t see it so much as she competes with her husbands, but instead that she marries them out of a desire to acquire their talents. She wanted to be an actor, so she married Sean. She wanted to be a director, so she married Guy.%0D\
I have no doubt she''s attracted to and in love with them, but she has to have another reason for marrying. She probably would have married Carlos if that wasn''t the case.
R27 is my new hero.
She does seem to spend a lot of time with Lourdes.
Lourdes coaching Mercy before her first appointment with Mommie Dearest:\
"Have an executive summary faxed no later than 2 hours before your scheduled meeting; be sure to curtsy immediately upon entering her office; use only one of the following responses (in either English or French): "Yes, Mum," "No, Mum," or "Thank you Mum"; and please, for the love of all that is Holy, do NOT make direct eye contact."\
If you need help, she keeps a window in her office open. It''s about a 10 meter fall into the duck pond--you''ll live."
I wouldn''t say that she marries these people to acquire their talent. But I do think she puts a premium on a guy''s career or looks. I''m a big fan of her career but her personal life seems like a mess.
when did adopt the 2nd kid? boy or girl?
She adopted Mercy, a girl, right before she announced her divorce to Guy Ritchie. That means that when she was getting reviewed for the adoption she knew the family she was showing off as being the one Mercy was going to be coming into wasn''t going to last. Very deceptive.
One of her ex nannies said that Madonna didn''t allow showers in the morning while she slept, because the sound of the pipes would wake her up (I forgot which house she lived in at the time). Apparently, she sleeps her eight ours (or whatever) no matter what. Can you imagine these kids whispering and tiptoeing around the house in the morning? No way she ever does anything for these kids that''s not scheduled. No way. \
Talking about an unavailable parent...
The original source is the Daily Mail, the Pauline Fowler of newspapers.
[R51] is spot on.
Come on, she''s a multi millionaire (close to billionaire), not some middle class woman who has to struggle to put food on the table. She doesn''t have to work if she doesn''t feel like it, and she can damn well afford to spend some time with those children, especially after all the rule breaking she did to adopt two of them.%0D\
The Vadge queens will defend anything their idol does, no matter how disgusting it sounds. As for the person who said she''s always out in public with them, of course! It''s called publicity and she''s the queen of it!
I thought Madonna married Sean and Guy because of their big dicks.
R61 nails it. If she cared about these kids as more than accessories, she could take some more time off work.
I remember some article way back where Courtney Love said that she and Kurt Cobain made sure that they spent "at least two hours every day" with Frances Bean. I thought at the time "two hours? Wow, what attentive parents!" Well, I guess they were better parents than Madonna, who schedules appointments to spend time with her kids in 15 minute increments. %0D
That article may be slightly exaggerated but I do think that those kids are being raised by nannies and only see Madonna infrequently. How could it NOT be like that? Madonna lives for her career, that has always been the top priority in her life. She always touring, making records, promoting whatever her latest project is. She's taken up film directing; how much time can you spend with your children when you're occupied with establishing yourself as a film director? %0D
Indeed, the adoption of those two African children were career moves. She wanted to reinvent herself in a humaniatarian role and what is more humanitarian than adopting a little brown orphan from Africa? Trouble is, neither one of those kids were orphans. She bought them. She bypassed the laws governing the adoption of children in Malawi, I suppose by bribing the corrupt officials there. Now they're being raised by nannies employed by a rich white woman. I'm sure they'll have every material thing anyone could want, but are they being nurtured and loved? I seriously doubt it.
Yeah, R64, Courtney Love is parent of the year. Your logic fails miserably.
Fashionable accessories should be seen, not heard.
Madonna, Cuntess of London
An awkward meeting between Courtney Love and Madonna:
You want to hear something sad? Yesterday, I was watching "Precious" and I couldn''t help to think about how good the title character had it.
Lourdes (barely able to type after 17 hr shift in the Material Girl sweatshop)
It was the best career move I made, r64!
really people, we''re more than fine with this arrangement!
Lourdes, Rocco, and the other two
That''s the way we mothers to the manor born do it in England.%0D\
Right on, Madge.
Queen Elizabeth II
Can''t wait for the kids to grow up and write their tell-alls!
I like the way R37''s mind works. Can we please make a comprehensive list of all the outrageous practices attributed to Madonna? %0D\
I''ll add one. I vaguely remember reading something else about her sleeping habits. Something about wrapping or covering herself in something like a mummy before going to sleep. This was while she was still married to Guy Ritche.%0D\
"Yeah, R64, Courtney Love is parent of the year. Your logic fails miserably."%0D\
I never said she was parent of the year, you dumbass. I was commenting on how pathetic a parent Madonna must be if she has to schedule meetings with her children in small increments; Kurt and Courtney did seem more attentive in comparison. %0D
"Can we please make a comprehensive list of all the outrageous practices attributed to Madonna?''%0D\
In an article in Spin magazine called "The Sleaziest Moments in Rock and Roll" one of the sleaziest moments (there may have been more, I can''t remember) of course featured Madonna. Seems she hired a limo and went crusing, picking up young Hispanic men, inviting them into her limo and...well, you can guess the rest. Thankfully the piece didn''t go into detail, but it did she once she got them into the limo she did "whatever she wanted" with them. %0D\
And of course there was her "Sex" book. I wonder how she''ll explain to Lourdes, Rocco, David Banta and Mercy why Mommy decided to have herself photographed with her nose in a guy''s asshole.
"when she sleeps no one can make a sound in the house, not even to shower.
her kids need to make an appointment to see her."
Hmmm, this is utter pretentiousness on Mad-Donna's part.
I guess this phony bitch forgets sleeping rough when she came to NYC? Moving in with strange men in Queens, in their crappy house? I guess the cars rumbling down the block shaking the wood frame house she lived in at the time, didn't bother her or wake Her Royal Foulness up? Now she suddenly requires utter quiet?!
Everything about Madonna is fake, fake, fake. There is nothing worse than white trash with money. They all seem to go about creating a new lifestyle, which they ASSUME the upper classes live.
The worst offenders are musicians and sports figures. Madonna tops this list. Everything she does, drips with pretension and lies.
What was that utter bullshit on Letterman, when she told him she had never eaten pizza? Puh-lease, living in NYC all those years and pizza never passed those cum stained lips?
In the clip on MTV, with Courtney Love and Kurt Loder, you can hear she was starting to change her speaking voice, what a fake poseur piece of shit that woman is.
How very sad that so many of you guys have bought into into this woman's fakery: lock, stock and barrel!
[quote]What was that utter bullshit on Letterman, when she told him she had never eaten pizza?\
I remember that. It was obviously bs.
"I remember that. It was obviously bs."\
No kidding and wasn''t there a rumor she was eating discarded McDonald''s and other food out of trash cans when she arrived in NYC? She wouldn''t lower herself to work at McDonald''s, yet there she was eating food out of trash cans? Instead of actually working at some job she considered beneath her, she lived with a succession of men, trying to get her career off the ground.\
How soon these phonies forget their past lives. I''d worked with a guy, who when referring to the social climbing phonies in our ad agency, "They''re the ''Forget My Past'' crowd, always creating these fake personas." \
These people all lied about their humble beginnings, what schools they attended, some were call boys etc. They reminded me of Madonna.
R10, they''ll never have to worry about economics, so learning a language like French makes perfect sense.
R78 Stephen Bray said about Madonna at the time, "she had benefactors".
"No kidding and wasn''t there a rumor she was eating discarded McDonald''s and other food out of trash cans when she arrived in NYC?"%0D\
Yes, she did say when she first came to NY she ate out of garbage cans, she was so poor. She said she''d find the remnants of a fast food meal and being a vegetarian would eat the fries and leave the burger. Of course she was lying; her brother confirmed that he and her father helped her out, so there was no need for her to eat meals from a garbage can.%0D\
She also said that in the early days she had to "charm people into giving me things." Which is hard to believe, since Madonna is and has always been one of the most charmless people on the planet. I guess if you read between the lines what she really said was "I had to spead my legs and deep-throat so men would give me things.''
She never told Letterman that she hadn''t ever eaten pizza. Where the fuck is that coming from?
She appeared on Letterman in the pizza shop next door and mewed about not eating pizza before. %0D\
She was practically a hooker when she lived in NYC. I think her early life was so rough that she has tried to forget it ever happened.
[quote]She appeared on Letterman in the pizza shop next door and mewed about not eating pizza before.\
I saw that interview and she never said that.
What a cold bitch.
[quote]I''m a big fan of her career but her personal life seems like a mess.\
Actually for a person of her level of fame, I think she seems to have kept it together pretty well.\
Compare her with Michael, Whitney, Mariah, Britney...
R86 That rhymes.
R84? You''re delusional. She did indeed make that claim which is why Letterman made it a point to bring her to a pizzeria next door, where she ever so timidly "dared" to take a bite.
She''s a bitch on wheels, but some of you are unhinged.%0D\
The kids speak French because they go to Lycee Francais in Los Angeles, New York and London. The one in Los Angeles is one of the best schools in the city. Jodie Foster went there; was her mother a social climber? %0D\
The appointment thing is odd, but she''s an extraordinarily busy person and it might be just to guarantee that she sees all of them. She also talked, a long time ago, about being concerned that all of her children are treated the same way--some issue with her step-mother? It doesn''t say there''s a limit on the number of 15 minute increments.%0D\
She schedules her kids in so they are guaranteed the time.%0D\
I think that''s pretty cool.%0D\
It''s not like she isn''t busy%0D\
She''s far from an absentee mom
She may be a workaholic but when she''s not on tour or making a movie she seems to be home most of the time.
R89 I believe brother Christopher Ciccone has said that Madonna was her father''s favorite and that the step mother was intimidated by her. I get the impression that Madonna was always the center of attention in that house.%0D\
That family''s dynamics played a part in who she is today, both good and bad.
I wish my life had been like Madonna''s kids. I wish my insane mother only saw me by appointment and I had nannies. It would have been great. My mother actually used to spy on me through my bedroom door. If I liked something, she''d take it away. If I made friends in school, she''d take me out and put me in another school.%0D\
She was like the mother in "Carrie."%0D\
I''d vastly prefer nannies.
Isn''t it ironic that she felt such deep connection with David and Mercy she had to snatch them from their relatives and families and now she sees them at 15 minutes increments?
*in* 15 minute increments
That''s so sick, r94.
R94 I was just thinking about Mercy. I think she went through with the adoption of her so that David would have a more closely related sibling, even though she knew her marriage was falling apart.%0D\
I think she has her sibling relationship with Christopher in mind with Lourdes/Rocco and David/Mercy.
She should have left those kids in Malawi where they''d have AIDS and be dying a slow and miserable death by now.\
That cunt! Who the fuck does she think she is to give them food and clothing and decent shelter? Those kids need to be back home and covered with flies immediately! Madge needs to be shot.
"I saw that interview and she never said that."\
Yes, it did happen. She went on about never eating pizza and how bad cheese was for you. \
Dave talked her into trying pizza, she then told Dave what she wanted on the pizza he was ordering from the restaurant next door. IIRC, she wanted parmesan grated cheese, NOT mozzarella! And olives and some sort of lettuce?! Weird, just like her.\
Dave then waltzed the delusional diva into the restaurant next to the studio, but not before she touched the hands of a few Madonna Minions who were outside squealing.
She says she has never been to a NY Pizza joint, not that she has never eaten pizza before in her life. She''s not timid about biting into it either.\
R88, you''re the delusional one.
"In an article in Spin magazine called "The Sleaziest Moments in Rock and Roll" one of the sleaziest moments (there may have been more, I can''t remember) of course featured Madonna. Seems she hired a limo and went crusing, picking up young Hispanic men, inviting them into her limo and...well, you can guess the rest. Thankfully the piece didn''t go into detail, but it did she once she got them into the limo she did "whatever she wanted" with them."\
Oh, no. Really? Those poor guys. Forced to have sex with Madonna. I''m clutching my pearls as I type this.
this is still a gay website, right?
R102 Well the worst thing about this rumor about Madonna is that supposedly some of these guys were under age.
"Oh, no. Really? Those poor guys. Forced to have sex with Madonna. I''m clutching my pearls as I type this."%0D\
I feel sorry for the poor guys. You couldn''t pay me to have sex with that ugly slut.
"She should have left those kids in Malawi where they''d have AIDS and be dying a slow and miserable death by now.%0D\
That cunt! Who the fuck does she think she is to give them food and clothing and decent shelter? Those kids need to be back home and covered with flies immediately! Madge needs to be shot."%0D\
Oh shut the fuck up, you blithering idiot.%0D\
Yeah, if Madonna hadn''t bought them they have AIDS and be starving to death. Why she was their savior! %0D\
Those kids do not have AIDS and they were not starving when Madonna snatched them. They were both healthy and normal. Which is why Madge bought them. You think Madonna would buy a baby that had some icky disease or had some affliction? Both David Banta and Mercy were cute, plump, and healthy. Madonna certainly would settle for nothing less. %0D\
And the slut-shaming continues.
r21 -- Lourdes is going to LaGuardia High School in Manhattan starting next week (formerly Performing Arts High School, now in back in Lincoln Center.) Trust me, between her father''s family and everyday action on the upper West Side of Manhattan, she''ll get all the Spanish she wants.
Look how clingy David is. He must be starved for affection.
I am no fan of Madonna''s -- and never have been. However, she''s a wealthy businesswoman with a complicated schedule. Maybe this way she has specific blocks of time when she can make the individual child feel special without being interrupted by hangers-on and "urgent" business issues. I actually thought she''s handled Lourdes'' clothing line and Macy''s opening here in NYC quite gracefully.
I thought she actually looked really good for her age up until she got those cheeks. She was a couple of years shy of 50 during Confessions and she looked amazing. Her body looked great and her face looked good.%0D\
The divorce and turning 50 must have hit her hard. She got those overblown cheeks, and I think another facelift, and looked like a fucking skeleton for Sticky and Sweet.
Compare that picture in R114''s link to this one. They were taken only a few years apart. The center pic is bad because of her expression but take a look at the bottom right corner one. She looked great and now she''s messed up her face.
Bad singer, bad actress, bad dancer, bad director. Now bad mother to boot.
[quote]The children are said to have appointments made to see their mother, who will help with homework, or sing, or even make food with them â but only if it has been planned in advance,â Britainâs Daily Mail newspaper reports
She manages to do all that in 15 minutes? Yeah, right.
I can already see the scene in my head when she's on her death bed and her kids are talking about the inheritance in the next room. She'll deserve it too.
I saw her on Houston Street in Manhattan pushing David in a stroller. No Nanny in sight. This was around 2007. She must have had an apartment in the East Village because I saw Guy Richie in the Citi Bank on Avenue A a couple of times. She looked like a hands on Mom to me.
We're going to put her in a home as soon as Lourdes is old enough to get power of attorney.
Sure ya did, r118. She was the same bitch who happily stated that she never once changed a diaper when her kids were babies. "Why should I?"
Everyone knows that she had her daughter for publicity. The woman is a sociopath. She even used her mother's death for entertainment.
Someone needs to slit this cunt's throat once and for all.
If I were one of her kids, I'd make appointments then repeatedly change and/or cancel them, then ask her why she's always missing her appointments.
Yes, I did, r120. Why would I lie about that? It was a shock but it was her. She had red hair and was wearing that bad eye make-up that made her look like an alien. I'm not saying she was alone on the street. She probably did have security close by. I wasn't paying attention to the other people on the street around her. I don't know anything about her personally. Your post sounds made up if the truth be told.
Uh, she didn't have Guy with her when she adopted David r123 that's why they divorced. Guy didn't want David & she did, plus they both hated each other by then.
I didn't say I saw her with Guy. I saw him at the bank on Ave. A. He was by himself. She wasn't with Guy on Houston Street. And if he was with her I didn't see him. She may not have been with Guy when David was adopted but I assume he still wanted to see his OWN son, r124. This is fucking ridiculous. I saw her. Case closed.
Why doesn't she ever comb that nasty hair? She needs to cut it short if she's not going to comb it.
And the black-framed glasses are so 2010.