Let''s talk about "Knots Landing"

It deserves a thread all its own.

Capricorn Crude
• As long as nobody links that dire ''homage'' on youtube. 9 minutes of sheer unoriginality.

• Joan and Michele really know how to ruin a sweet moment. Shrieking harpies.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flOGRAhkfj4

• Ted Shackelford was rumored to possess a "third leg"

• Michael Fairgate should have been gay.

• I would have licked the chests of Don Murray, Ted Shackleford, William Devane, Kevin Dobson, John Pleshette, Doug Sheehan, and introducing Alec Baldwin.%0D\ %0D\ I beat off a LOT to those chests.

• Let''s not.

• I got my Screen Actors Guild card doing a one liner in one of the latter seasons. I was opposite Michelle Phillips and William DeVane in the scene.%0D\ %0D\ DeVane ruled the roost - you could tell the crew was very much beholden to him. But he was very kind to me and made sure I knew where I needed to be for my line. The extras were horrific. All of them clamored to try and get my one line and shunned me for having it.%0D\ %0D\ Michelle Phillips was very beautiful and a little aloof but not unkind.%0D\ %0D\ I had fun wandering around the soundstage between takes - seeing the disassembled sets of the Mackenzie living room and Mack''s office, etc. I had been a huge fan of the show.

• How sad that Julie Harris is most well known for that shit.

  The thee-at-ah truly is ephemeral

• I had an enormous crush on Ted Shackleford in the 80s. I was about 15.

• Met Michelle Lee at a benefit party and had a great 15 minutes talking Knots with her. She was funny and warm and much amused by my fandom. \ \ When I told her I did her famous Pollyanna speech for college theatre auditions and got in to NYU with it she screamed with laughter and hugged me. She was great.\ \ R5- you need to add Chip to the list of lickable chests. He was my 2nd choice after Alec Baldwin!

• I thought that Hunt Block and Paul Carofotes had the best bodies. Both of them helped me through hard times in puberty.

• Donna Mills was probably every white man''s fantasy the whole time she was on the show.

• Why just white men?%0D\ %0D\ What strange phrasing.

• I''m sure it''s been discussed (and based on previous threads - I think she''s on DL) - but once and for all - is Donna Mills a lesbian?

• r14 No.

• Donna used to hook up with Leslie Charleson when they were on Love is a Many Splendored Thing. It wasn''t a regular thing, but Donna is no stranger to the gash.

• Dear God, R12, no. Just no. There''s not a market segment on earth that likes Donna Mills.

  Constance McCashin, toasting my cherry Pop-Tarts (no, that;s not a euphemism)

• KNOTS LANDING - the best prime time soap ever. It was the best written and best acted. My God, even the kids were great actors. \ \ Karen and Valene - best friendship ever\ Gary and Valene - one of the best love stories ever\ Abby - best, and in some ways, most realistic bitch ever\ Greg Sumner - one of the most complex and realistic villains ever\ \ Alec Baldwin owes his career to KL\ \ I love this show and watched every last originally broadcast episode.

• *ahem* R18. I died of fucking CANCER you know. An emotionally wrenching performance.

  Constance McCashin, deciding what to eat first, my McNuggets or my Hot Apple Pie

• [quote]Alec Baldwin owes his career to KL\ \ \ You obviously forgot about a little show called "The Doctors".

  Billy Allison Aldrich

• Oh I remember THE DOCTORS r20 but let''s get real here. Alec Baldwin owe Julie Harris'' character Lillie Mae for talking him to death off that roof. ;-)

• Oh please accept my humble apologies r19. Laura was my girl. She told it like it is, kept Greg in check unlike any other, and yes that includes hoochie in training Paige, and went off to die with class and dignity.

• Apology accepted, R18/R22. How can I not forgive someone with such exquisite taste in actresses? \ \ You must hate Claudia Lonow, non?

  Constance McCashin, making "double stuffs" with my EL Fudge men

• Michele Lee was the best. Soulful, relatable, and convincing. Very all-American character in Karen Fairgate McKenzie - with strength, honesty, and integrity. A remarkable performance. %0D\ %0D\ %0D\ I''m sorry that "Knots Landing" didn''t receive anywhere near the Emmy nominations for which it is worthy. Lee and Julie Harris were nominated for its third season, 1981-82, with Lee in best actress and Harris in supporting actress. (I bring that up, because the Emmys are on this coming Sunday night.)

• I was late to the party, didn''t start watching the show until around 1989. Still I became hooked and watched faithfully until the end. I still have so many fond memories of it. Loved Michelle Phillips, Michelle Lee, Joan, Ted and even Nicollete Sheridan was good in it. CBS only cancelled it due to finances, I think the show had another 5 years in it at least.

• Did Donna Mills tried to come on to Joan Van Ark? Michele Lee?

• "Swallow. SWALLOW!"\ \ "I CAN''T WITHOUT WATER! I CAN''T!!!!!"

• Whatever happened to Tonya Crowe?

• I didn''t watch the show except for the tail end of one season. I found it\ delightfully demented. That was about the time that Twin Peaks was on and i couldn''t help but wonder whether the success of Twin Peaks had somehow provoked the creators of Knots Landing into taking it in the same crazy direction. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

• To me, one of the most beautiful men who ever lived was James Houghton, who played Kenny in the early seasons. As I recall, he got his start playing David Hasselhoff''s brother on Y&R.

• Bump.

• Old thread, but who cares?\ \ Knots is always worth more discussion

• Indeed it is. Let''s pose this question. If the new Dallas reboot get greenlit what will that mean for Knots? Will Gary and Valene drop by for a visit? When they consider rebooting Knots if its a success?

• Below is a post with the concept of a KL spin-off... OK, count me in as a big fan of KL, but I think the show jumped the shark when they recast Linda as a blond who cheated on Eric and became a vilianess of some sort. I was glad when she turned up dead. Of all the night time soaps, I think KL had the best chance for a spin-off with younger characters away from the cul-de-sac and their parents (except as guest stars). Personally (and I know this sounds insane), I wish they had moved the show to Seattle or Portland where Olivia and Harold lived (Harold as private investigator), Laura's two sons could have been in town too (a real blast from the past) - at least one should have been a cop. Karen's son Michael could live there too, working in the software industry. Of course you need a place for them to meet and hang out and fight and plot and such, so that's why Cathy lives in town too, owning a bar/restaurant (the return of Lisa Hartman!). It would have run for many seasons, with an occasional visits from Abbey (she never liked Harold), Valene (she and Olivia were close), Mac (he and Michael were friendly), etc... There were enough secondary characters to take the show somewhere else and fold in at least some of the parents.

• I missed it in its original run but fell in love with it in syndication. It was really well written, especially next to the other night time soaps of the era. The actresses were uniformly excellent, they had compelling storylines and I wanted to be fucked by almost every man on that show.

• Tonya Crowe is married and lives in LA

• Donna Mills is to Tonya Crowe, as Martina Navratilova is to Gabriela Sabatini.\ \ The password is...\ \ PREDATOR.

  Constance McCashin, licking the Cheeto dust from my fingers

• Nicolette Sheridan ruined the show.

• [italic]Knots Landing[/italic] is the greatest series in the history of American television!

• Speaking of Sabatini, how about Michael Sabatini? Really hot guy in a long list of hot men on KL.

• They added some dark humor to Laura''s ''death'' by having her body not show up; Greg got a letter from the funeral home or the hospice where she died apologizing for it, saying it would never happen again. (as if.)%0D\ %0D\ I thought they were leaving a door open to bring her back.%0D\ %0D\ The show was never the same after Laura left; despite the popularity of strip coquet (sp?) with Greg and Paige, that was a ridiculous relationship; he was old enough to be her father and she looked bored throughout it all; even more bored than he did.

• [quote]The show was never the same after Laura left;\ \ You know it, bitches!

  Constance McCashin, having Devil Dogs and a Cherry Coke for dinner

• I lreally like the Laura/Greg relationship because Laura wouldn''t take shit from him (or anyone else). And that chemistry between the two actors was special and missed after Laura was out. But let''s not forget that Laura otherwise was a bore. Her storylines before Greg were horrible cliche stuff that was later woven into standard Lifetime movies. And even during the Laura/Greg relationship, that character never had its own major storyline. That''s why she was probably deemed dispensible. MacCashin just didn''t add more to the show than being the perfect sparring partner for Greg Sumner. %0D\ %0D

• R43, there was the time Richard accused me of having a lesbian relationship with Ciji. That wasn''t boring! And that Lisa Hartman could muff-dive like she was in the LPGA!

  Constance McCashin, tearing into a package of Twizzlers

• Karen uttered one of the all-time great soap lines in her "Pollyanna" speech-"I don''t want to see the world through rose-colored glasses, I want the world to BE rose-colored!"

• R32, who wouldn''t have taken advantage of Gabriela Sabatini??? Bet she got hit in the lockers by EVERY lezzie/bi tennis player, assitant,etc back then.

• Is there any chance it could get a relaunch now it's sister show is back?

• Connie, can I interest you in a 1-pound bag of fun-size Twix and a 2-liter Mello Yello?

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• Back in the day when you didn't have internet spoilers, I remember being blown away by the end of this episode!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DEBeagF7j0C8

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• Great clip [R49], That was the year "Knots Landing" really became a great show. I hope they start releasing DVDs again. I am a huge "Knots" fan and I haven't bought any yet because the shows after "Sid's death" got out of the way and "Abby" became a major vixen made up the "Knots Landing" I want to see again. I wonder why they got rid of Kim Lankford and James Houghton, they were so attractive, good actor and were unique in that their age difference with the other couples was significant. Like all soaps, I suppose, "Knots Landing" fired as many good actors as they hired. I was so in love with Michael Sabatino and his georgeous eyes, although his death was a key part in the greatest primetime soap story ever told, the intricately plotted "Wolfbridge" mystery that lead to the best cliffhanger of all time, "Negotiations." So many great memories. Now that I've seen TNT's fantastic take on "Dallas", I honk I would like to see a "Knots Landing" relaunch, as long as "Abby", "Karen", "Val" and "Gary" were included and given prominent roles. I wonder if Patrick Peterson is still as georgeous as he was on the show.

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• WEHT to Hunt Block? I jerked off to him more than a couple of times.

• Bump What's the story with Donna Mills? She must have a significant girlfriend or two over the years, but you never hear gossip on her partners. I preferred the earlier, quieter years of Knots when it was about the neighborhood. It was all right in later years, but it became like any other nighttime soap opera with the powerful business men and women, instead of just about the friends in the cul-de-sac.

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• Shackleford (who's been trapped on Y and R for awhile) and Van Ark are going to pay a visit to the Dallas reboot.

• I thought Falcon Crest was better.

• Ted's still a good looking man, but Joan Van Ark is a horror show of plastic surgery and whatever else she does to freeze her face in place. Keep her off the Dallas re-boot. If Gary needs to visit Southfork, fine, make it an appearance, have him leave. BUT, wouldn't it be more interesting and a good link between KL and Dallas if Bobby and Betsy, Gary and Val's children, made their way to Dallas? Nice generational crossover.

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• Let's talk about Ted's third leg? Length and girth, please.

  Kit Mainwaring

• Okay, I'm missing something but why are Constance McCashin's bad eating habits funny?

• Ciji and Laura had a lesbian relationship

• No, Let's talk about my eye make-up!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dv_xgxFEj9aw

  Donna

• What is the deal with Ted?

• I wonder if Ted gifted gorgeous twink Patrick Peterson with his "third leg" when the kid turned 18?

  Brian Cunningham

• I loved that show - especially James Houghton in the early episodes and, later, Alec Baldwin. Umph.