A new book, Hollywood Babylon Strikes Again, makes the claim that the late Christopher Reeve once had an affair with the late gay porn star Cal Culver (aka Casey Donovan), who starred in the legendary gay adult film Boys in the Sand.%0D\
"Culver, who died of an AIDS-related illness, told the unnamed interviewer he met Reeve when both were auditioning for the same Broadway role in the mid-1970s. In the chat, the porn star says, ''Christopher was a great lover and I think I liberated him sexually. I didn''t think he was gay but he seemed willing to try anything once. He was curious.'' In the book extract, obtained by the Globe, Culver calls Reeve ''the man of my dreams'' and reveals the two men had a passionate affair that lasted for two months - until the future Superman learned his partner was a gay porn star, who performed under the name Casey Donovan."%0D\
Now, quoting a dead gay porn star about a dead screen icon doesn''t offer much in the way of credibility, but, it doesn''t make for a bad fantasy.%0D
So why was his male-male kiss in the movie Deathtrap so wooden?%0D
Hmm both are dead. Meh. Why not?
Make of this what you will, but a friend told me a story about meeting Christopher Reeve at a party in the early 1980''s and CR was there with a boyfriend and they were holding hands.
Does this mean his fragrance Still is unisexual?
Donovan was THE gay pornstar of the 70s: ver bland cleancut looks that appealed to the pressed jeans and Lacoste shirt set, which was the middle class gay US look before the lumberjack plaid shirt look took off. In the last stages of AIDS and glassy eyed on drugs he made one last porn film for Christopher Rage where he was just a burnt out recepticle: appropriately it''s called Fucked Up.
Reeve was truly beautiful in his prime.
Lived on the Upper West Side and cruised me at a street fair on Columbus Ave. circa. 1982
Reeve was breathtakingly beautiful but not at all sexy when younger, it wasn''t until he grayed and got older (Remains of the Day) that he really started showing some sex appeal, however, unfairly cut short by his accident.
Everything he was in and every appearance suggested that CR was not doing much acting to play the nerdy, white bread Clark Kent. Beautiful yes, and maybe kind, intelligent and engaging, but the intelligent and engaging did not come across much.
I tricked with a guy once (going back to 1989) who was from California (I am in Philly area) who said he messed around with Reeve a few times. For some reason it always stayed with me. He also said he blew Parker Stephenson (sp?). %0D\
I am not surprised.
Christopher Reeve was truly beautiful in his prime. He was my first crush after viewing Superman when I was 9 years old.%0D\
As for the rumor - it''s quite possible. I believed he truly loved his wife, but not above experimentation.
While I think Tom Welling will eventually make an astronomically better Superman than Reeve (though I don''t think that is actually even in the plans), I do think Reeve as Superman is iconic and beautiful. Routh did an awesome Reeve impression in the role too.
I really question the validity of this cause the author of the book is Darwin Porter.\
He has a long long record of not sourcing his claims in previous books about Merv Griffin, Paul Newman, and Steve McQueen.\
His sources in all of this info is himself. Claims that this person and that person so told him this and that. \
And all of these sources he claims to have told him such information are all dead, so there is no way to verify these claims.
r13, is Darwin Porter the author who claimed in his book about Paul Newman that Newman''s son made sexual advance on his father?
So Christopher Reeves was gay, or at least bisexual with a preferance for men. Not that shocking, there are more gay actors in Hollywood and theater than there are straight ones.
I made the mistake of buying Porter''s book on Humphrey Bogart. A couple of pages in, I realized just how ridiculous it was. Porter recounts conversations and assignations that supposedly took place decades and decades ago that he would have no way of knowing about. His work should be classified as fiction. And bad fiction at that.
R15 - You''re confused. Reeve has a long term relationship with Gae Exton (a female british model) and subsequently married Dana. Obviously, his preference was for women. However, he may have experimented with men.
R13 and R16 are totally right. Porter MAKES SHIT UP based on rumor and innuendo - he recounts whole conversations he claims are verbatim but he wasn''t there.%0D\
I''m surprised no one has sued him for libel; granted, his subjects themselves (Newman, Griffin, Brando, etc.) are all dead, but they all have heirs and estates - why isn''t Joanne Woodward dragging his ass into court?%0D\
He''s worse than Boze Hadleigh or Sam Staggs.
If this is true then he was bisexual. He had a torrid affair with Jane Seymour during Somewhere In Time. Source: THE CREW!
(he''s the one on the bottom)%0D\
People are reluctant to see cause then they''d have to take depositions. Then the other side can ask whatever question they want, delve even deeper into the person''s personal life. And it would be ALL public record.\
Plus it would give even more publicity to the book and author. Outside the gay community no one has ever even heard of Darwin Porter.\
But you hit him with a lawsuit, and overnight people will know his name. So why give him the free publicity and sell even more copies of his books?
So Darwin Porter''s sources are all...HIM? I think it''s pretty safe to assume that he is chock full of shit. %0D\
You can say anything about someone after they''re dead. And every handsome dead male celebrity ALWAYS has somebody say that he was gay and "I fucked him" or "I knew somebody who fucked him" or "he fucked (fill in the blank with the name of another handsome dead male celebrity) or "I saw him cruising teenage boys at (fill in the blank)."%0D\
Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson are two of the most notorious pussyhounds in Hollywood. But after they''re dead, no doubt queens will come out of the woodwork saying that sure they fucked hundreds of women, but they REALLY liked cock, because I fucked him, and I know somebody who fucked him and he went cruising all the time for young boys...and on and on.
Isn''t there a biography of Casey Donovan out there? I can''t find it so I may be remembering some other blond 70''s gay porn star (and not the one that married the woman). \
Can''t imagine that wouldn''t be in his book if it''s true, at least the most current edition.
I agree about Porter making things up. His books are worthless fantasies. He''s a smart man, only write about dead people, don''t identify sources, make money.
Reeve pre-"Superman" was a scrawny geek.
There were also rumors that Reeve had an affair with Robin Williams when both of them were at Julliard together....
[quote]Hmm both are dead. Meh. Why not?%0D\
Sounds like a good plan for David Ehrenstein.
Can I ask a question? why do people come onto a GOSSIP board, the get all bent out of shape because there''s gossip here? Is it because the rumor that someone might have had gay sex upsets people in a way that other gossip doesn''t?\
Does anyone honestly think that a theater actor who looked like Reeve never dabbled? Really?\
Maybe gay gossip should always come with a signed affidavit from all parties involved? Not that people wouldn''t still get furious...
[quote]Can I ask a question? %0D\
Not if it''s something stupid like "Can I ask a question?"
I tried to read the Darwin Porter book on Katharine Hepburn and couldn''t make it past fifty pages. I don''t know whether Hepburn was gay, straight, bi, or asexual, but nobody could have as much sex as Porter says she was having (with every man and woman who crossed her path) and have any time for a career.
We get bent out of shape when the gossip is so patently ridiculous that it insults one''s intelligence. It''s a gossip board, not a site for one''s delusional fantasies about celebrities.
Because Reeve was so goodlooking he must have dabbled? What kind of reasoning is that?
[quote]Can I ask a question? why do people come onto a GOSSIP board, the get all bent out of shape because there''s gossip here? Is it because the rumor that someone might have had gay sex upsets people in a way that other gossip doesn''t?\
Does anyone honestly think that a theater actor who looked like Reeve never dabbled? Really?\
Why do you get upset if someone questions anything? It''s a gossip site but it''s also a conversation site. Do you think just because it''s a gossip site, all should be taken as Gospel? Some might know the person in question and have a complete opposite opinion. I''ve met Christopher Reeve. I got zero gay vibe from him. Would I think he "dabbled" because of how he looked? No. Did he? I don''t know, but I do know there are some here that refuse to believe a beautiful heterosexual guy can live their entire life without a gay encounter.
r1, because we was kissing Michael Caine. %0D\
I wouldn''t be surprised if Reeve and most male actors experiment. It''s not wishful thinking, it''s more coming from my experience in theatre and acting groups where alot of the men were more fluid in sexuality than most guys you meet, say, in an insurance agency. The acting profession attracts guys like that.
R25, I know it wasn''t Jack Wrangler or Joey Stephano I was thinking of. I though there was a book about Casey that chronicled his friendships with people like Nancy Reagan. I want to say Beautiful Boy or something like that.\
Boy in the Sand. That''s it.
Casey/Cal was one of the sweetest, sexiest men I ever met. Had numerous encounters with him when my work took me to NYC. I can easily see Reeve or anyone else wanting him. He was vibrant, funny, and sexy as hell, and he know how to use every inch of his body and yours.%0D\
Great to know!
There is a full-length biography of Cal Culver, AKA Casey Donovan: "Boy in the Sand: Casey Donovan, All-American Sex Star" by Roger Edmonson, Alyson, 1998.
I was shocked once to see a story I had written in here about Katherine Hepburn appeared in Porter''s book. He never spoke to me, never emailed me, nothing. I know my story was true, but how did he? He just repeated it as gospel. After that I couldn''t trust anything he wrote.
What a weird story. I thought it was common knowledge that everybody in the 1970''s was on drugs and sexually versatile, nevermind our stars. It was the vibe of the times. My cab drivers in the 1970''s used to casually regale me with tales of their bisexual and underage conquests just to make small talk. My junior and senior high school was rife with sex between and among the teachers and students. And this was in Ohio.
There were lots of rumors during the SOMEWHERE IN TIME/SUPERMAN II era from actors who had been at Julliard with Reeve that Reeve had sex with both fellow male and female students while in school.
Was Jack Wrangler a porn star before or after he played Frisco?
Good point, weren''t all the hot male stars giving blowjobs for coke at 54 during that period?
I guess Darwin Porter gets all of his info on this board!
A friend of mine was friends of his at college. Reeves dated her roommate. My friend has excellent gaydar, and swears that he is 100% straight. She thought he was a little weird though, but kind and nice.
Who did Donovan play in Boys in the Sand? I always like the kids playing poker.
[quote] I guess Darwin Porter gets all of his info on this board!%0D\
That''s certainly clear if you (try to) read his Griffin and Newman bios.....
Donovan was the star of Boys in the Sand.
I thought he was sex on a stick in Deathtrap, and played the role of the sexually-versatile (?) sociopath very well. We can''t tell if his character is really gay or just camping it up - we do know that he is supremely ambitious, and not above screwing a vain old closet queen to be successful.
R49: It is "Reeve" not "Reeves".
Both are dead so the real truth will never be known, i am straight & will find it hard to be with a man, so if he did, then he was not straight
R49- yes, I trust your friend''s gaydar. Oh wait...your an anonymous poster on a message board making up shit.
[quote]i am straight & will find it hard to be with a man\
Maybe. But do let us know how it works out.
"Donovan was THE gay pornstar of the 70s"\
Perhaps, but I don''t remember him. I remember the big names from the 1980''s like Jeff Stryker and Ryan Idol.
R58 Jeff Stryker may have been a ''big name'', but that''s about it. \
I saw him come out of a jewelry store in Weho back in 1997, and realized why his dick looked so huge.\
He''s about 5 feet tall.\
And looked ravaged by ciggies and alcohol, and that was 13 years ago.
I was an apprentice at Williamstown Theater Festival in the summer of 1983. I was assigned as Chris Reeve''s personal assistant. As much as I would have liked it to be so, I never got a hint of him being gay. \
A very nice, but slightly awkward man, though. Really, a perfect Clark Kent.
r55, sorry to tell you this, dude, but you are not straight if you are surfing Datalounge.
Stryker is not tall, but he is not THAT short. And he has an amazing cock. It doesn''t just look big, it IS big.\
In any event, he was a giant in gay porn - there may not be anyone like him again.
Don''t all these babylon books deal exclusively with dead people?
Reeve being gay was one of the first gay rumors I heard about a celebrity. I was a freshman in college (1988) and a classmate mentioned it at dinner as if it were common knowledge. She had heard it from her brother who was an actor on/off Broadway. Again, no way to verify but the rumor certainly didn''t originate with Porter.
BTW and FYI, the pics of Casey getting fisted by Al Parker and about to get bukkaked by the other four guys are from the ''83 gay classic: "The Other Side Of Aspen." Pre-condom and well worth a rental. Casey looks deep into Al''s eyes as Al''s fist works itself deep into Casey. Oh my!
There are gay rumors about almost all stars. In Reeve''s case it was because he was so pretty and played gay in Deathtrap. There has never been any proof.
I believe you R60. I''ve always heard he was nice and everyone liked him. I''m still sad about what happened to him.
He looks gay to me, so i think its true,
"There are gay rumors about almost all stars." Straw man argument, and a bullshit attempt at refutation. I could just as easily say, "There are gay rumors about almost all ice skaters". Or "There are gay rumors about almost all florists". The only time it remotely works as refutation is when it involved famous actors, and that''s only because they have PR hacks to bolster heterosexual presumption. Here''s another..."There are rumors that most great basketball stars today are African-American". Or, "there are rumors that most illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican border are Mexican citizens".\
This rumor is specific. It''s not, Christopher Reeve had unknown gay affair with undisclosed person from college". Yes, they''re both dead. Welcome to American libel law, which considers calling someone gay a horrible slander. Most of the gay and bisexual famous people were outed after death. Big surprise.
Reeve definitely cruised me when we were both attending a play at the Hudson Guild Theater, c 1981. I was in one of the upstairs seats on the side and he was downstairs in the center section. It was a pretty small auditorium so it was clear he was looking directly at me. After the first act he was joined by a pretty blonde woman who I assume was Gae Exton.
Awww Sweetie, he was just pitying you for being in "the pauper seats" as Dame Edna would say.
"All actors are bisexual." - Richard Burton
In most (perhaps all) American jurisdictions, neither the estate nor the survivors of a deceased person has standing to sue for defamation (i.e., libel or slander) of the deceased.
R24, there are plenty of rumors that Beatty serviced gay playwright William Inge for career reasons in the early ''60s.
''tis a pity he''s a whore
In San Francisco, there was a TV station that was owned by a very wealthy man. Everyone knew he was gay, and most people he hired for his local TV Station were gay. He made local news at the time when he took Christopher Reeves in his private plane to the Caribbean. It was just the two of them. Everyone had a big question mark floating in their heads at the time about Reeves taking a vacation with this local gay millionaire alone. This was at the time of Reeve's Superman fame. However, a gay man and a straight man can be friends so that can be totally BS, Who knows?
I agree with that new Babylon book that came out not too long ago. Darwin Porter is completely outrageous. The author claimed James Dean had sex with a 12-year-old boy. Also, Errol Flynn molested his own kids. I notice that all of Darwin Porter's biographies he uses the same names over and over again. For example, he said, Marlon Brando's biography, he had affairs with Paul Newman, Montgomery Clift, James Dean, and Rock Hudson. Merv Griffin's biography, he had affairs with Marlon Brando, Paul Newman, Montgomery Clift, James Dean, and Rock Hudson. Paul Newman's biography, he had affairs with, Marlon Brando, Montgomery Clift, James Dean, and Rock Hudson. You see this pattern? he reuses the same names over and over again. It's so obvious the man is cranking out BS to make a quick buck.
He cruised me, he cruised my BF, he cruised a friend of mine in college. All this cruising and no one has a real story of sex with him? Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
one can hardly blame Reeve.\
No one, not even Nancy Reagan, sucked cock like Casey!
Useless trivia - Christopher Reeve''s son Matthew was roomate of George Harrison''s son Dhani at Brown University.
R77 - You can''t even get the man''s last name right. How are we supposed to believe your story?
Recently watched SAILOR IN THE WILD again. Beautiful.
"Now, quoting a dead gay porn star about a dead screen icon doesn''t offer much in the way of credibility, but, it doesn''t make for a bad fantasy."%0D\
THAT is an understatement. I never believe this shit. Anybody who does is an idiot.
"Does anyone honestly think that a theater actor who looked like Reeve never dabbled? Really?."%0D\
Yes really, you idiot. Being handsome and doing theater (he was an ACTOR you dumbass, that''s what they DO) automatically makes you gay or bi? That''s so stupid it''s mind-boggling.%0D\
"Reeve definitely cruised me when we were both attending a play at the Hudson Guild Theater, c 1981. I was in one of the upstairs seats on the side and he was downstairs in the center section. It was a pretty small auditorium so it was clear he was looking directly at me.''%0D\
You base the assumption that he "definitely cruised" you on his looking "directly" at you? Why, he must have been insane with lust for you! I''m surprised he didn''t run right over to you and fall to his knees and pull your cock out of your pants and start sucking it in full view of the other theater-goers! All sarcasm aside, you sound like a pitifully delusional, brainless queen.
Hey R60, I was at Williamstown that summer as well! My memory of Chris is that he was always flirting with the pretty young girls at The Zoo. I also remember his pal Robin Williams coming up for opening night and both of them kinda drunk and all over the female apprentices at the party. %0D\
Though he was still with Gae Exton, I think that was also the summer he met Dana who performed at the WTF Cabaret.%0D\
Anyway, Chris was very into the girls, not the boys.
Former WTF Apprentice
lovely Christoper Reeve homage ''Superman'' by Joe McElderry
Christopher Reeve was a lousy actor.\
That''s all you need to know about him.\
But if it matters: I know a women who had sex with him at the Williamstown Theater Fest in 1981 or so.
He was a New York soap actor in the late 70s. Of course he at least dabbled in homosex.
"I thought he was sex on a stick in Deathtrap, and played the role of the sexually-versatile (?) sociopath very well. We can''t tell if his character is really gay or just camping it up - we do know that he is supremely ambitious, and not above screwing a vain old closet queen to be successful."%0D\
Totally agree with all of the above. Is he really gay, or merely an opportunist? I thought it was very interesting that the lawyer "Porter Milgrim" did seem to be portrayed as gay, and he zeroed in on Reeve''s character pretty fast. %0D\
Christopher Reeve was just gorgeous, but gay? I don''t know...he never really struck me as the mindlessly slutty type...
When was the last time we talked about the Reeves? Was Dana with hot studs in last years of Christopher''s life? Did he haunt her from the grave? \
Their son is now 18.
Wasn''t CR in 5th of July with Jeff Daniels as his lover? I think they shared on on-stage kiss, or at least were very affectionate to one another. I remember his character couldn''t walk and Jeff picked him up at one point and carried him across the stage. Very touching.%0D\
I wonder why this play was never filmed.
John Robert Stillman
Both men are dead, as is Reeve''s wife. So any claims can be made.
I think his son is older than that because I heard he was Dhani Harrison''s roommate at Brown University. %0D\
Wait... duh. It was his half-brother who roomed with Dhani Harrison, who is 29.
God, I loved his ass in Somewhere in Time. Too bad that dick got limp.
Christopher Reeve was in the same boat as many actors in theater and film. He preferred women for his emotional relationships and lifestyle but experimented with men on occasion when he was so inclined. Hugh Jackman, Matthew Broderick, Martin Short, Sting and many many more creative people have had the same situation. It works for them and their marriages. Bisexuality is the norm for creative types. Just because the suburbanites don''t live like this doesn''t make it abnormal. If everyone did, life would be grand.
[quote]I think I liberated him sexually%0D\
Why do porn stars always think things like this? To feel less like whores?
Giggling at R97s trollery.
Christopher Reeve was ugly. Sharp nose and no lips. Ugh. You queens are blind.
Dhani Harrison has, like his late dad, decided to become fug in middle age.
Isn''t this old news? The whole Christopher Reeeve is bi thing was out there before he became a quad - then it became poor taste to talk about that, so now that he''s been dead long enough it comes back??
So, was Dana with other men before he died?
Was at a party with Christopher Reeve in Rome in late 1981 while he was filming the Monsignor ... nerdy and sweet. Looked so cute trying to be cool snapping his fingers to a tune being played on the piano. Molly Ringwald and Susan Sarandon were singing, "Why Do Fools Fall in Love." He hit on the girl I was with. DeNiro and Keitel were also at that party.
You can say anything about someone when they''re dead. This gay shit is really old; every book about any male celebrity or public figure that comes out now says that its subject was gay or at least bi. I think most of these claims are entirely fabricated in order to create a sexual angle that will hopefully sell more books.
What R102 said.
105= thinks a gay rumor is slander.\
Go away homophobe.
r97, of the people you claimed to be "bisexual", a few of them are indeed so-inclined, but the rest are gay and in love with men. Their marriages are mutual friendships and wives are gay as well.
Reeves was GAY. And, just another white gay man who hated himself and hid who he was.
r108 Ok, let''s compare notes. which ones do you know to be exclusively gay? Always gay, never bi. I''m interested in what you think because I already know.
r108 Also you said,"in love with men". Do you mean a specific man or men in general? Important phrase because one I know is currently in love with a specific man.
I never even considered that Chris Reeve was anything BUT gay. He was so effeminate - the lisp, the mannerisms, even his walk. Of course, one has to grant him some concessions considering he was playing opposite a tremendously hardened Margot Kidder.
r111, not Matthew Broderick.
r113 are you asking or telling?
Why do you want to know what I know since you "already know" and are sure they are "bisexuals"?
I remember seeing a Howard Stern show (back when he was on E!) where this guy said he had slept with Reeve.
for what it is worth
r115 Just curious to see if you really know as you write. I already know.
Paul Newman''s son made a pass at his own father? WHAT WHAT WHAT????
r92, the "5th of July" was filmed for TV. I remember seeing it a long time ago. The lead was Richard Thomas (John Boy) from "The Waltons." That was also the first time I had ever seen Cynthia Nixon and she was just a very young girl. Jeff Daniels was in it too, he shared a nice kiss with John Boy.
Isn''t waiting for someone to be dead before declaring them gay basically turning it into a slander? I mean, if you really don''t think it is, why not spill your details when that person is alive? Leaving it until they''re gone basically colludes with those who consider it dirty.%0D\
[quote]Isn''t waiting for someone to be dead before declaring them gay basically turning it into a slander?%0D\
It''s not "a slander" if it''s the truth. %0D\
"105= thinks a gay rumor is slander.%0D\
Go away homophobe."%0D\
Fuck off, asshole. I''m merely stating facts. Anyone is fair game after they''re dead, and it seems that it''s popular these days to make claims that the deceased was gay or bi, even if there is no real proof to back it up. It''s a disgusting selling ploy. I guess the belief of biographers today is "sex always sex, especially gay sex, so that means I have to make (fill in the blank) gay or bi. The sales will go throught the roof!"%0D\
"It''s not "a slander" if it''s the truth."%0D\
It''s frequently NOT the truth, you dumbass. Usually it''s just a lot of gossip, rumor, innuendo, half-truths, distortions, unsubtantiated, nameless sources. But not "the truth." %0D\
[quote]It''s frequently NOT the truth, you dumbass.%0D\
Wow! We had no idea that it''s "frequently NOT the truth." We''re thrilled that we have a fucktard like you to provide that important information. We never realized, until your brilliant input, that books sell better if sex is involved. What an amazing discovery!!!!! Please continue to post updates, r122.
Even at the time we all chuckled knowingly when we heard his girlfriend was named "Gae".