Is Mel Gibson the most bigoted Hollywood star ever?
Or are there any contenders to the title?
I''ve read (on here) that Jimmy Stewart absolutely detested African Americans, but I haven''t seen that anywhere else - although I haven''t looked, either.
Robert Mitchum refused to work with Sydney Poitier.\
[quote]Poitier was the first male black actor to be nominated for a competitive Academy Award (for The Defiant Ones, 1958). Tony Curtis is on record as saying he had approval of Poitier as his co-star. He also said the director''s first choice for his role was Robert Mitchum, but Mitchum refused to work with a black man. Curtis made these comments on the 1999 program Private Screenings with Turner Classic Movies host Robert Osborne.
No offense, but I wouldn't trust anything Curtis had to say about anyone. Not that I know a thing about Mitchum.%0D
Michael Richards obviously comes to mind as a bigot--but not much of a star outside of sitcom t.v. And his was a supporting role.%0D
In spite of the famous "friendship" with Sammy Davis Jr., I heard most of the Rat Pack was pretty fucking racist. Davis had to put up with a lot of shit from them. Meanwhile, Davis rarely gets talked about here as being gay/bi. In Linda Lovelace's (forget her real name) autobiography, she recalls Davis wanting a special screening of "Deep Throat" from it's maker, and then Davis performing "deep throat" on him during the show. And Linda Lovelace (going by her real name at the time--Damiano maybe?) was a born-again Michfest type feminist--not exactly a trashy celeb name dropper. Kind of an icky story over all. (Lovelace was present as she was supposed to service Davis if he required it, but instead...)%0D
IIRC, Milton Berle was known for being racist as well. Also known for innappropriate groping of males--supposedly as some kind of menacing gesture. (Who knows what kind of fucked up closet case Unlce Miltie may have been? Though he fucked plenty of women. Marilyn Monroe was credited with saying, "Berle has the biggest cock in Hollywood, but who cares?)%0D
Anyway, this was allegedly the source of the fracas with Merle and RuPaul. Right before going on stage together, Merle groped Charles. (Quite the feat considering the tucking involved). I mean right as they were told to walk on stage. That's why when Berle made some gassy old man comment to Charles, Charles just let loose on him. Later a couple of other male celebs told similar stories about Berle. One of them being Geraldo Rivera.%0D
Also, it seems Eddie Murphy based his "I'm Gumby, Damn It!" characterization in part on Berle. Seems Berle went out of his way to make minority entertainers around him uncomfortable. It's just he was such an all around jerk, it got lost in the asshole-ishness of Milton. But not so lost that people didn't notice.
I wouldn''t trust anything Curtis says, either.%0D\
That said, Mitchum was a contradictory character: both a lifelong Republican and a lifelong pothead.
Oh boy. Sammy went down on Linda''s then-husband, Chuck Traynor, an abusive man and notorious racist and homophobe who, nevertheless, was enough of a hanger-on that he was psyched to spend time with a celebrity couple. When Sammy asked Linda if she would "teach me how to do that" she assumed, demonstrating how to give a blow job on Sammy so Altovise Davis learn deep throating.\
When Linda realized Sammy wanted to go down on Chuck, Lovelace, real last name Marciano, got her revenge. \
When Lovelace''s "Ordeal" was released, Sammy''s people said they refused to dignify the story with comments. Which means it was true.
Turned down Tony Curtis''s role in The Defiant Ones (1958). Mitchum, a real-life veteran of a Southern chain gang, claimed to disbelieve the premise that a black and white man would be chained together. He said such a thing would never happen in the South. Over the years, this reason was corrupted to the point where many people now believe Mitchum turned down the role because he didn''t want to be chained to a black man, an absolute falsehood. Curtis repeated the inaccurate story in his autobiography, but later recanted after Mitchum''s real reason was explained to him.
Eugene Pallette was another actor who wouldn''t work with black performers.
That is an impossible question to answer. Prior to the 1960s the social structure of America was built on bigtory. Segregation, restriction and open homophobia allowed true bigotry to thrive undetected.
Howard Hughes once refused to sit down on chairs previously occupied by the black cast of %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CPorgy and Bess." I''ve also read that even the mention of Dr. Martin Luther King drove him crazy.\
I''ve also read some quotes attributed to Walt Disney that were pretty anti-semitic.
Howard Hawks was an anti-semite.
Difficult, but not impossible, r8. When I was writing my Berle story, I was thinking of another old time, Jack Benny--who was quite the opposite of Berle when it came to relating to minorities. True bigotry would thrive undetected, but an open-hearted person would definitely be revealed.%0D\
Just subtract one from the other.%0D\
If you want to hear about self-loathing, how Merle Oberon, who was half-Asian? Not only did she lie about it, she introduced her Asian mother as her servant. And her mother played along. But do you blame Oberon (I would most definitely) or the British public whom would label her a "half-caste" if they knew. Not that the American public would be more forgiving. But I doubt Merle would have played Cathy in Wuthering Heights. Maybe she would''ve gotten Anna Mae Wong''s roles.
Glenn Ford was a racist as well. Seems he refused to sit beside Gail Fisher, the woman who played Peggy Maxwell in the MANNIX series.%0D\
Was Walt Disney a bigot? Two words:%0D\
Look, people, you have to consider the generation of the star you''re labeling bigoted. ALL of these old timers mentioned would be considered racists by today''s standards, even those who were in favor of civil rights. Mel Gibson, born in 1955/1956, has no fucking excuse for his behavior.
Didn''t Julie Andrews once sue a magazine that said she was dating Harry Belafonte after they appeared on TV together?
"I wouldn''t trust anything Curtis had to say about anyone."\
Why? Why would Curtis lie about something like that?\
It appears he was telling the truth, so I''m open to believing it.
Wasn''t it well known that Merle Oberon was half Indian and didn''t her Irish/Indian heritage popularly add to her exotic allure?
r1, in his autobiography, Woody Strode says Jimmy Stewart was racist towards him.
He''s dead to me now.
I heard John Wayne was notoriously bigoted.
>>Robert Mitchum refused to work with Sydney Poitier.>>\
To think, Mitchum recorded a Calypso album!
[quote]I heard John Wayne was notoriously bigoted.%0D\
Of all the other names mentioned, this is the only one I''ve heard about for years.
Darlene Love told a story in her autobiography where she was staying at a hotel with John Wayne. They ran into each other one afternoon in the hallway and Wayne started talking about how lousy the room service was and asked to her to tell the manager about it. He thought because she was black she was automatically a maid which pissed her off. But she admits, when he was clarified about who she really was he was gracious and apologized profusely.
Sarah Silverman said that an entertainer she admired approached her after one of her shows and said that he (or she, she didn''t specify the sex of who it was) just "loved" her "nigger jokes." Silverman said she was offended by the entertainer''s bigotry and was amazed that anyone would actually think that she really WAS a racist, despite doing jokes about how Hispanics don''t bathe and how blacks are are inferior to whites and calling Martin Luther King Jr. a "loser."
Oh, that Sarah! She''s quite the ''edgy'' one, isn''t she?! %0D\
This quote from a John Wayne interview says it all:%0D\
"I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to the point of responsibility. I don''t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people."
Another John Wayne gem:%0D\
"[on Frank Capra] I''d like to take that little Dago son of a bitch and tear him into a million pieces and throw him into the ocean and watch him float back to Sicily where he belongs."
More from John Wayne:\
"I don''t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them if that''s what you''re asking. Our so called stealing of this country was just a question of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."
"[on Native Americans:] I don''t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."
High-fiving you, #28.%0D\
Though not racist, I''ll end on this one:%0D\
[on the studios'' blacklisting of alleged "subversives" in Hollywood] "If it is for the FBI, I will do anything for them. If they want me to I will even be photographed with an agent and point out a Communist for them. Tell Mr. Hoover [FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover] I am on his side."
"But she admits, when he was clarified about who she really was he was gracious and apologized profusely."\
Like that justifies it.
re Walter Brennan:%0D\
During the 1960s he was convinced that the anti-war and civil rights movements were being run by overseas Communists - and said as much in interviews. He told reporters that he believed the civil rights movement, in particular, the riots in places like Watts and Newark and demonstrations in Birmingham, Alabama, were the result of perfectly content "Negroes" being stirred up by a handful of "troublemakers" with an anti-American agenda. Those on the set of his last series, "The Guns of Will Sonnett" (1967) - in which he played the surprisingly complex role of an ex-army scout trying to undo the damage caused by his being a mostly absentee father - said that he cackled with delight upon learning of the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, and several crew members recalled how he actually danced a spontaneous jig when he heard of King''s murder.
Doug McClure''s Butt Crack
It''s too bad to hear that about Brennan. It sounds like he was a sick fuck (if that''s all true).\
Very unfortunate since I think he is one of only 3 actors (the other 2 being Jack Nicholson and Ingrid Bergman) to win 3 Oscars
These quotes are disgusting, but you must realize that most actors are not well-read intellectuals. We place way too much importance on what actors & musicians say -- most of them are uneducated, working class bozos who gain money and prestige from being successful only as actors. Most are plenty dumb, why would they be smarter and less prejudiced than the average Joe?
"Why should I be ashamed of white guys? Why is "Hispanic pride" or "black pride" a good thing, while "white pride" conjures up shaved heads and white hoods? %0D
-- Speech by National Rifle Association First Vice President Charlton Heston Delivered at the Free Congress Foundation's 20th Anniversary Gala%0D
"Gay rights should extend no further than your rights or my rights..."%0D
-- From Heston's speech 'Winning the Cultural War,' delivered Tuesday, February 16, 7:30 pm, Ames Courtroom, Austin Hall %0D
"I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural shock troops participate in homosexual-rights fund-raisers but boycott gun-rights fund-raisers... and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian relationships are somehow better served and more loved."%0D
-- Speech by National Rifle Association First Vice President Charlton Heston Delivered at the Free Congress Foundation's 20th Anniversary Gala%0D
Scott Baio, but he''s not a star.
Maria Riva touches upon her mother''s bigotry in her Dietrich biography. Dietrich, brought up an aristocratic Prussian, found black people relatively unattractive, and was disgusted by their hands, which she deemed "dirty-looking." When an adult Maria confronted Marlene over it, an aghast Marlene responded "But some of my best maids have been black!" %0D\
She did, however, think Lena Horne was one of the most beautiful women in the biz, because her skin was light and she looked great in white.
I think I''ll take Marlene Dietrich over Charlton Heston any day.
I''m a black guy and I usually look at the context and the time period in which some of those statements were made. I guess I cut slack to those people born before 1950. I don''t excuse it, but I take into account when they were born and the time period in which they were raised. \
I will say that I appreciate blatant racists. At least you know where you stand with them.
R37, Marlene was hoping to get Lena into the sack. I don''t think she scored, but I could be wrong.
Interesting info about Marlene D., especially considering the age-old rumor about her lesbian affair with Hattie McDaniel.
I think you''re confusing Dietrich with Tallulah Bankhead, r30.
R43, did you mean to address your comment to me? Because if so, you''re right and thanks for the correction.
R31 If I had a quarter for every person in a store or restaurant (black white brown et al) I''ve confused for staff, I''d crumble under the wait. \
I still hate John Wayne
Ha! Beat the fuzz to it!
Angela Lansbury is universally despised for her overt racism.
Ford refused to sit next to former Laugh In gal, Chelsea Brown at the Logies Awards in Australia, sometime in the late 70''s. Brown was much beloved in Australia, she starred in a number of our soapies and variety shows. %0D\
Ford was outed as a racist and condemned by the media, which was most unusual at the time. We usually treated even the most Z list American celeb like royalty, regardless of behaviour.%0D\
Merle Overon claimed she was from Tasmania, Australia. Which Errol Flynn, who was really from there, found highly amusing.%0D\
It''s Oberon, R49.
Wasn''t Glenn Ford also a wife-beater?
Who isn''t, R51?
A few of these actors are in some of my all time favorite movies, Jimmy Stewart (Rear Window) Glenn Ford (The Big Heat) John Wayne (Stagecoach) Robert Mitchum (Cape Fear) and Angela Lansbury (Manchurian Candidate - is it REALLY true about her?). Marlene Dietrich always looked like a man in drag and her movies have never been of any interest to me so fuck her. The talk about the other actors being racists has really ruined everything for me although I shouldn''t be surprised about this. How do you enjoy movies knowing that the actors in them are despicable racists? I really love those movies, it''s the same with Robert Duvall and Jon Voight, they''re in movies I love too but they''re far-right wing assholes and I can''t stand to look at them now.
No, Angela Lansbury is one of the nicest people you''ll EVER meet. It''s not true about her.
Julianne Moore. Seriously.
The Voice of the Night
That''s good to know R54.
I assume the Angela Lansbury comment was meant as a joke, but that poster should still be ashamed of himself.
Mark Wahlberg is racist and homophobe. He threw rocks at and caused injury to Black children on an outing. He attacked and blinded a Vietnamese man in one eye with a stick.
I wonder how ant minority actor can bring themselves to work with this turd.
Jamie Foxx is a racist piece of shit, but most people here don't like to talk about that.
I'm surprised Charlton Heston name hasn't showed up yet in this thread. Also president of the NRA on top of all the bigotry.
The funny thing is that anyone deserves a bit of redemption and he deserved it when he played the very gay Ben Hur, unbeknownst to him. According to the movie the Celluloid Closet.
I'm surprised at R50's reading comprehension.
R60, meet R35.
a teen-aged Angela Lansbury sat next to Lena Horne in Make-up at MGM when others refused.
Her response was "I'm from London, I wasn't taught to hate black people"
Love. Her. Madly.
Charlton Heston marched in the 1963 March on Washington. He didn't become a Republican until the 1970s.
R24, she later specified that it was the lead singer from Journey who said that.
I know Michael Richards from Sienfeld is not a big star, but I'm surprised Kirstie Alley picked him up in her new series. His racist rant was over the top.
Shelley Winters marched for civil rights back in 1960.