When a straight guy and a gay guy hook up, who is the top/dominant one?
At first thought, I''d think it would be the straight guy, since he''s built to be dominant and fucks pussy on a regular basis, but on second thought, the straight guy may want to play a submissive role when he''s with a man, just to have a nice change from being the dominant one with pussy. Your thoughts on the matter?
I can''t believe how stupid this board is.
most straight guys are passive - lie back and allow you to suck their dicks. And they tend not to like touching the gay guy in any way.
OP - it''s your fantasy; go with it.
the "straight" married guys I''ve fucked wanted dominant guys and to be fucked and made into a little moaning girl.
r2 is right, str8 guys just want to lie down and get licked and sucked then sit on their hard dicks when they want it and which i like best anyway.
Everybody does what everybody does, and what anybody does.\
There is no such thing as a "straight guy."\
There is no such thing as a "gay guy."\
These are politically/socially constructed categories that have NOTHING to do with what people actually do sexually.\
You all are a bunch of foolish essentialist idiots.\
It''s no wonder we don''t have rights.
Same here, R4.\
I''ve never been fucked by a married guy; they all couldn''t open their legs fast enough.
I think this is another one of those situations that call for the OP to go stand on a street corner with a clipboard & take his own survey.
"str8" guys like to lie back and be blown\
"str8" guys like you to lie back and get blown\
"str8" guys want their ass rimmed and fucked deep\
"str8" guys want to fuck your manpussy\
The top/dom one is whoever wants to be.
[quote]There is no such thing as a "gay guy."\
Well, speaking for myself, never been with a woman and never will. It''s only men for me.
School is out for the summer. Be prepared for even lamers posts than OP''s.\
Hope Prime Time goes into effect soon and stays there until after Labor Day so the adults can enjoy themselves.
r 10, you miss my point.\
"Gay" and "straight" are relatively recent categories in the history of sexuality, dating from the 19th century, according to Michel Foucault. They are not expansive enough to cover all the people they''re supposed to name.\
If you''re a "straight" guy whose sexual pleasure exclusively involves boyish, flat-chested women strapping on Jeff Stryker dildos and fucking you and calling you a bitch, what do you have in common with a "straight" guy who wants straight-on missionary sex once a week with a woman who cries and calls him Daddy?\
If you''re a gay Republican who eats out 17-year-old boys in public bathrooms and lies to your wife (with whom you haven''t slept in 15 years) about your homosexuality, what do you have in common with a totally out, radical anarchist fairy, who is legally married in the state of Massachusetts to the only man with whom he has ever had sex?\
The categories are incoherent.
R11, you do realize that people who don''t pay to be here can''t create threads, right?\
Judging by the topic at hand, I think it''s obvious the adults are the ones who would be locked out until after Labor Day.
[R6] / R has read her Foucault.\
Nothin'' wrong with readin'' Foucault. Nothing wrong with not being knee-jerk and mindless about queer politics.
Oh, sorry, I was trying to be pointlessly bitchy. My bad.\
(I''ve read Foucault too.)
I LOVE my straight cock on the hoof.
There is going to be TONS of straight cock at this weekend''s Puerto Rican Day parade just aching to find itself in a man''s warm, wet hole.
Why would a straight guy hook up with a gay guy in the first place? if so then he is not straight because i cant and will never do it.
I didn''t wipe so my mussy will be SUPER MOIST for straight cock!
Straight guys like tight hole and good blow jobs.\
(We''ve been through this, ladies).
[quote]Why would a straight guy hook up with a gay guy in the first place? \
He wants to experience a great blow job; something his wife can''t handle.
or, R22, he wants to experience getting fucked up the ass, something his wife can''t handle.
I my experience the two straight guys I have been with didn''t want anything to do with my cock but let me do anything I wanted to them...\
It was pretty great actually...and one of them came back for more a whole bunch of times...\
He was cute and good in bed.
OK I''ll say it, OP and co. you have been hoodwinked, the guys who have been spreading their ass cheeks for you all aren''t really straight. They are a closet HOMOSEXUALS. Sorry to ruin your ''scoring with a straight guy'' fantasy, but I always feel that honesty is the best policy.
You know in a straight relationship, the man can be submissive. Depending on the sexual act, the position etc..... Heck, from the Greeks to the gays nobody can even decide wheter getting a blowjob makes you the dom or the sub!!! Is the guy lying back getting sucked submissive? Then again the guy on his knees sucking is also submissive. There are no clear cut definitions.\
Labels are for clothes not people.
Straight men are "built to be dominant"? What does that even mean? Does OP imagine that straight men are actually physically different from gay men?
It depends how much you pay them.
r6/r12/r15= college undergrad sophomore who just had his/her/their/schklir (because they don''t like to label themselves) mind blown after reading their first Foucault. I''m sure they also call themselves queer (not gay, of course) and wear keffiyehs on a regular basis.
he isn''t the be all, end all, sweetie.
I''ve fucked many bi/married men; only one even made an attempt to fuck me.
Yes, most of the "straight" guys I''ve been with wanted to get fucked. Make of that what you will.
I enjoy this never-ending topic.\
Of course, if the op had simply said "straight-identified" or "married" then what would we have to argue about?
Any new insights?
I have found that plenty of married men like to get fucked. \
Plenty of single guys like to get blown.
so r4 are you being sarcastic when you say these straight married guys are actually gay and they act like little girls, which is how gay guys act?\
So the fact that they fuck their wives as well still make them gay huh?
You DL troglodytes are tired
When a bisexual guy and a gay guy hook up?
[quote]There is no such thing as a "gay guy."\
I''m a gay guy. So, at least one exists.
Gay men run from the "gay" label. \
Straight men wear their "straight" labals like a badge. \
I never hear straight guys talking about "labels" and how they "are for clothes not people".\
"You all are a bunch of foolish essentialist idiots...\
It''s no wonder we don''t have rights."\
Don''t you see how idiotic this statement is? Who is the ''we'' in your sentence? The whole idea that ''we'' should have rights is an essentialist argument. Your anti-essentialist posture might gain you points in your Vassar grad school seminar. But the effect of it is actually very conservative. It just fuels the basic argument of the right wing: people aren''t born gay, they are shaped and molded into people who do homosexual things. \
So thanks a lot for giving them ammunition, you pretentious twat.
R38, that''s because if a straight guy talks about not wanting labels, etc., we assume he''s gay.
[quote]There is no such thing as a "gay guy". There is no such thing as a "straight guy". You all are a bunch of foolish essentialist idiots...It''s no wonder we don''t have rights.\
That''s run-of-the-mill self-hate. That "thinking" is found at all intellectual levels of gay men, and only gay men.
The dreaded gay, R41? Oh, how awful for the straight guy! I see why the straight label is a MUST, especially for "straight" guys who fuck other guys. Thanks, R41. I understand now.
Somebody needs to punch r6 in the face repeatedly. Hard.
If [r6] is hot, I will gladly punch him in the face repeatedly...with my cock
R48/38, that wasn''t my point. You said that gay guys try to avoid labels while straight guys cling to labels. My point is that if a straight guy says he wants to avoid labels, we assume he has something to hide and is therefore a closeted gay/bisexual, so we don''t count him as a straight guy who wants to avoid labels, even is he IS indeed straight.
I find that the bi or straight guy wants to bottom. One guy told me that its the only time he can let go and let someone else be in charge.
If a straight guy wants to dominate and top, then he''ll fuck a woman.\
Most straight-married-bi-curious guys want a masculine hottie to fuck their holes. \
It''s all a fucking mess.
"Straight" guys love to be dominated and get "raped" by another guy since that way they can still claim that they are straight but the other guy overpowered them and they couldn''t do anything about it.
[r49], that''s a straight guy''s WORST nightmare
#50, for some guys that thinking takes away their responsibility from the encounter. These guys don''t care to keep their masculinity intact behind closed doors. Of course it''s a different thing when they''re in public and have to prove everybody that they are still manly men.
Calling yourself "straight" when you hook up with men makes you look like a TOTAL douchebag asshole.
In my experience 'straight' guys always want to be fucked good and hard and their holes rimmed and stretched, as thats what they can't get from the wife at home ....
I met a guy just out of a 7-year relationship with a woman. He was a bottom. First date.
I'm only into mutual oral. All the straight guys I'm with give head, but that's because I insist on it.
R6 Kindly fuck off and quit sounding like some "evolved" person with your anti-labels. Those are social constructs, but that doesn't mean gay and straight people aren't real, dumbass. A building is a construct, and yet it is real. It DOES apply to the MANY people who belong in the two boxes, maybe not for the grey areas, but it fucking does.
You honestly think that without labels, everybody would REALLY be ALL bisexual? Come the fuck on, they came into existence for a reason.
Essentialists are bad with the "born this way" crap they try to bring across the entire population when sexuality is fluid.
But anti-"essentialists" (not even the right term to describe them here) like you make me just as sick :x
R25 Fuck off too, nobody gives a damn fuck. I'm smart enough to know that they are mostly straight, and yes MOSTLY *STRAIGHT*. Now fuck off from here and save your smartassery for something else.
R26 Labels are for clothes AND people. Fuck you, you don't even sound evolved because we all know that's what you're trying to pull you twat.
R38 Because it's trendy to hate on labels for no fucking reason.
R40, you sound like one of those essentialists with the born this way bullshit. I couldn't give a fuck about the political consequences, I'm sure you don't too, you're saying this because it ruins you identity.
Obviously, the guy with the bigger dick decides who's the top and who's the bottom.
Straight guys do not hook up with gay men.
Bi men and other gay men hook up with gay men.
I hope this clarifies matters for you, OP.
r58 has ZERO straight male friends. or else would know better.
r59 lives completely in a delicate and fragile fantasy land, much like Laura in "The Glass Menagerie."
[R59] Has a lot of closeted homosexual male friends.
straight guys dont hook up with dudes. Period.
[quote] straight guys dont hook up with dudes. Period.
It doesn't matter how many times you say it, or point out that a man who might primarily sleep with women would then be BISEXUAL if he also has sexy with a man, the lead paint chip eating idiots on here can't get their clitties off unless they fantasize that they're with a straight man.
Such self loathing. Truly sad.
[quote]I met a guy just out of a 7-year relationship with a woman. He was a bottom. First date.
All it takes is a few years with a frigid frau to turn a straight guy into a gay bottom.
I'm up for anything when it comes to a straight guy. Whatever he wants. With gay guys I'll throw my weight around a little bit more, dictate what he should do.
Most of the straight guys I've had only want to top, which is fine by me.
there are some pitiful dudes here
I've seen straight strap-on videos where the girl is fucking the guy with the biggest dildos I've ever seen in straight or gay porn.
Not that I'm into that sort of thing.
R67, they are not straight guys - stop fooling yourself.
The straight guy who stands out in my mind looked like a movie star. Tall, dark and handsome. He'd been in a relationship with a girl for 7 years. We got drunk one night and ended up making out on a friend's couch. A month later he came by my place and we got into bed. He was on his back, I got on top of him, and he lifted his legs in the air and said: "Fuck me please."
Every straight guy I've ever been with has taken a passive role. Yep, some just lay back and don't want to kiss, etc. but others have loved being dominated. I had a big, hunky blue collar fuck buddy for years who used to want to wear women's lingerie..stockings, garters, panties. I hated it but I got him naked as quickly as possible. He loved to kiss, loved it when I fucked him and sucked cock like a champ. If you read this, hey Glenn! Hope you're doing well.
Yeah R74, your lingerie wearing, cock sucking, total bottom fuck buddy was really, really straight
Ummm men who have sex with men are either bi or gay
and fyi straight men can take on a submissive role with women. Its called pegging.
I am a early 40's something attractive, very sexy (I am told) gay guy. I am extremely masculine and it throws the guys off when they find out I am gay. Some shy away, others remain the same. I think it depends on how well they feel in their own skin/sexuality.
I have had more "Straight"/married men hit on me the past 4 years than I have my entire life.
Although I have yet to do anything with these guys, there is one I can't seem to turn my attention away from. He is a Sexy MoFo. And the desire is there on both people. We just have never been able to find the time or place. Its like this, If the timing and place are right, shit happens. If not, it will for another.
My perspective on sexual rolls is this, we are animals. Animals fuck. There are no labels. If there is sexual attraction, that's it. It does not mean there is love. Its raw carnal sex and desire.
I think the majority of these guys just want to explore or have desires and needs that the wifey at home can not fulfill.
The roll of the top vs bottom I think happens during the act. Actions will dictate who is what and who get what where if it even goes that far.
...and when it really comes down to it, its just sex. And I don't think we really are meant to be monogamous. We are not "wired" for it.
I've 'sexed' with three married guys. They were all very passive bottoms, and extremely good looking. Smooth hardbodies with a strong desire to be dominated.
Heterosexual men do not engage in sexual acts with other men except in very extreme circumstances - such as in prison or boarding school, where sexual abuse is a manifestation of power.
There are some heterosexual men who might have been abused as children and feel the need to "re-live" the abuse time and time again; some others are desperate for money and would literally have sex with a potato in exchange for cash. However, there aren't any straight men who actively seek to have sex with other men if they have normal lives. Pulling women isn't that difficult, and hiring a prostitute would be better for any genuinely heterosexual man than sleeping with another man.
The only "straight" guys any one of you has ever slept with are closeted bisexual men who are supremely uncomfortable with their same sex attraction, and think that being married automatically makes them paragons of "true" heterosexual maleness.
Some people just like to lie to themselves and, apparently, some of you LOVE to think that your fantasies of turning a straight man gay can be real.
it doesnt happen ever
r10, can see his flames from Jupiter
Straigh men don't have gay sex.
It's amazing to me how pathetic some gay men can be.
When I was in college, I worked for an escort company that only hired "straight" guys. I was one of those "straight" guys and was hired by other "straight" married men. They weren't straight of course nor did they have a wife/gf, but they were so insecure that they had to delude themselves. I als knew a fat guy in college that would get some pretty good hookups all because he would claim to be married then put a fake ring on his finger when the trick came over.
The reason I went into gay4pay is because "straight" guys are expected to do less. So while a gay guy would get paid $500 to get fucked, the "straight" guy gets paid the same for only getting a blowjob. Most guys hiring me were EXTREMELY self-loathing and I'd tell them I was straight and didn't suck dick/get fucked and it drove them crazy even though it was all a lie.
Self-loathing gay men hiring make the best clients. That's why even out gay porn stars suddenly become "bisexual" because they know the big escort money is made from the self-loathing idiots.They desperate to believe a straight guy will want them and will believe any pathetic lie you tell them as long as you add a bro at the end of each sentence.
Gay men that respect themselves and are real men would never fall for any gay4pay shit.
r85, yeah right
Hello girls??? Wake up! If you are not leasing your man, and he'sunder 50, a man is NOT out of the question.
Honey. Hold onto your virginity. No man is worth that kidfa money.
Why is this guy even in the gay guy's apartment (NSFW)?
What is in the air tonight anyway? What a nasty little thread.
In all these threads about straight guys, the one thing we consistently overlook is the affection part. Straights who enjoy raw sex with other men do not want any of the huggy/kissy stuff. They simply enjoy the maleness itself and the sensory pleasure. I don't have a problem with that at all. Kudos to the straights who've discovered their assholes.
And, no guilt. I always found that interesting.
W&W for R1
Gay men don't have sex with women.
i love pussy in fact im married but ive been with guys and my wife knows im bi sexual hell she isto but top or bottom really doesnt matter when it comes to it dom or sub dosent matter when it comes to males or females i love being both dom and sub with either sex
Newsflash: as soon as a "straight" guy hooks up with another guy, he is by definition no longer straight. Straight means guys have sex with women only. If a guy has sex with another guy, he's at least bisexual, no matter what he says.
R96 Tell that to the gay guys who have had sex with women at some point. You're a fucking idiot.
Some people really do experiment.
[R96] not my point
A Rabbi, a Priest, and a black guy walk into a bathhouse...
As dominant str8 male I enjoy the over-powering sense of Masculinity that I feel when I own another man and make him kneel before me and worship my cock. I usually stand with my hands on his head denoting my superiority over him. I unzip but stay fully dressed, and as he performs his service to me I may also require that he remove all his clothes, to further humiliate him in my presence.
In conclusion I may ejaculate, spit or urinate on him to complete our session. I have no feeling of affection or this person. He is there only for my entertainment.
Real straight guys--who are truly mostly straight--just want to be sucked off, jacked off and usually come really quickly.
If you've got one who wants fucked, he is not really straight, married or not--he is on the down low gay.
Not sure bi really exists--you can perform with either but I think you prefer one.