Could one live there? Thinking of taking a job there
Yes. Birmingham isn''t as bad as you might think. It is the deep south, which involves humidity and occasionally arcane behavior patterns.
let''s go to N.O. for the weekend
I''m here. I''ve been here five years.\
I''m out at work, went to the premiere of the gay and lesbian film festival tonight.\
I have a life. It is not a richly layered experience for the gay man, to be sure. But you won''t be beaten in the streets, either.\
You''re more likely to find a small circle of friends, private dinner parties, etc. than any gay bar scene you''d want to be a part of.\
Atlanta''s a 2.5 hour drive, and you can go over there and get your gay on on the weekends. That''s the best answer.
I went there to meet the author of ''To Kill A Mockingbird''. She was so nice.
OMG you can''t just throw that out there r3. It needs its own thread!
I too came here for a job and intended to stay no more than five years. That was twelve years ago.\
Inexpensive. A much larger gay community than you might realize. Easy to use airport. Close to Atlanta. NOLA is a good weekend trip. Good cultural offerings - opera, symphony, ballet, theater.\
I''m perfectly out in a notoriously homophobic profession with no issues. Basically, it''s fine to be gay as long as you don''t bring it up in polite society.\
(I met Harper Lee as well - she''s a doll)
I''d like to live there.
The Virginia Samford Theatre is Gay Central in B''ham.
I thought the name of that book was "To Kill A Blackbird."
Coach Pat Dye
I have relatives (straights) who moved to Huntsville and they like it. Nasa has a lot of offices there and is supposed to be one of the biggest employers. Alabama has been giving tax incentives to companies that relocate or start up new businesses.
r3, that is my next NetFlix. It is arriving today.
I knew you''d be impressed.
It''s one of the axes, r7, along with Rojo, Silvertron Cafe, Covenant, and pretty much all of Crestwood.\
Been on stage there a dozen or so times in the last few years myself...
Another Birmingham Guy
I love when people in these minor cities talk about a scene. Have any of you ever been to NYC or London? If so, then the answer is that Birmingham is nothing more than a sad little back water with a gaggle of sad queens that have to travel 2.5 hours to get to a semi-decent bar. Sign me up!
R12 = Lisa Douglas
" Birmingham is nothing more than a sad little back water with a gaggle of sad queens that have to travel 2.5 hours to get to a semi-decent bar."\
Because going to a bar is such a deeply meaningful part of life...
Does R12 still get allergic smelling hay?
What are all these jobs you have to move to Birmingham AL for? Klan Wizard?
I don''t know what kind of job the OP is taking, but the healthcare industry, and the legal communities are both huge in Birmingham, r16. I am a native (who has been to London, Paris, Munich, Moscow, etc.), gay, and liberal politically. As many posters noted above, Birmingham has a thriving gay community, including a MCC, central Alabama Pride, Alabama equality, and many cultural activities to be enjoyed (and bars too..."The Quest" has been here forever).
A Fan-Dancer from Southside in Birmingham
Correction. Birmingham is a "real" city. It has a bar. My sincerest apologies.
I love how some of you still cling to the stereotypes of Southern Life. So Untrue and often unfounded bad movie fodder.
Uhhm...r18...there is more than one gay bar in B''ham (I just mentioned quest because it is the oldest, and ALWAYS open).
Birmingham way not be the most exciting place to be, but it''s a helluva lot better than some other places I could mention.
How does it compare to Kansas City Mo.?
Isn''t that like comparing gonorrhea to syphilis?
R12, for most gay men in this country, our lives stopped revolving around gay bars some years back. Just so you know...
r22, you just reminded me about how awful the gay scene is in KC, MO!
the key is to just live your life- do not get involved with the Gscene there-- They are an extremely sad group of nelly backstabbing queens but Southwest can fly you out of there and the best thing about Birmingham is it is DIRT Cheap.
My gay cousin lives in Kansas City, MO and I''ve visited a few times. It''s a right-wing Baptist shithole. I don''t know how he can stand it there.
I may be in the minority here, but I love Kansas City. I''ve never found it to be "Baptist" (Catholic, maybe) other than in black political circles. I''ve never had a problem being "out" here; I do LGBT volunteer work and have met a ton of interesting folks.\
Here''s a recent NY Times piece that gives you a snapshot:
OP, no matter what people say here, it''s still Alabama. Unless I''m mistaken, there are few if any gay rights in that state. God help you if you want any legal protections in your life - you won''t find them in AL.
get prepared to be thought of like someone with a contagious illness- Have a weatlthy friend from Tuscaloosa in a private Birmingham law school who would not get off the elevator in a hotel bar downtown Bham because he saw a "gay" and there might be "gay people in the bar." "The gays are going to burn in hell!" you will ruin your life if you move here!!
I''m sure that Blacks and Whites there live in perfect harmony, now that we''re a post-racial country.
The Episcopal Church The ADVENT in Donwtown Birmingham flew Black Flags when the National Episcopal \
church announced they would allow a Gay Priest
[quote]I''m sure that Blacks and Whites there live in perfect harmony, now that we''re a post-racial country.\
You bet, just like they do in NYC.
[quote]How does it compare to Kansas City Mo.?\
They''ve gone about as far as they can go.
There are Hundreds ff closeted married men in Birmingham--That is how it is still Done here. I am invited to a Huge married man orgy next Tuesday Night - It should be really fun and alot of hot married guys--
Kansas City is a city with a large population but is also very very boring. They''re trying to make the city happen but it just isn''t going to stick.
I love 33''s fractured logic. NYC is racially segregated, too. So why not move to Alabama!\
Do they bottle delusion down there, or do they just give it away?
It''s not delusion. It''s a veiled suggestion that you should clean up your own act before you point your finger at others.
Inside the city limits is mostly liberal and vibrant; the suburbs (aka "over the mountain") are provincial, churchy, and bland.
[quote]do not get involved with the Gscene there-- They are an extremely sad group of nelly backstabbing queens\
Mystic Krewe of Apollo, anyone?
Oh, dear. More ridiculous (ir)rationalization.\
Tell us about all the lynchings that happened in NYC, Buford. Do tell.
Veiled suggestion? Oh, Mary. That''s just flatulence under your muumuu.\
I''ll trash Alabama and every Dixie racist hateful kudzu-infested Southern Confederate-lovin'' backwater state that I want. \
The U.S. South is a pustule.
Re: the bar scene, it''s indeed nothing to write home about, but you haven''t lived until you''ve clapped eyes on the toothless drag fossil that is Miss Libertee Belle.
The Mayor of Birmingham, county commisioner and head of the democratic party are in Federal prison for orchestrating what is about to be the Largest Backrupcy in national history of a County- Jeferson Count is Five BIllion in Debt-\
Condo/ Loft values in downtown Birmingham have just plummeted 40% in the last 12 months. \
Stay away for you own good. It is a DYING city!
Are there plenty of gorgeous black studs in Alabama?
"Miss Libertee Belle."\
Madame came to life, just like Pinocchio!
There are two very SAD Gay bars in Birmingham --Most people go to New Orleans or Atlanta for the weekend!
Most of the great looking Black smart people leave as quickly as the can get out of here! Atlanta is very Black-tastic!
People still go to gay bars? If I were moving to Birmingham, I''d be more interested in knowing about the cuisine, the museums, the theatre scene, and the gay sport/hobby leagues.
Highlands has been ranked among America''s top restaurants for years. The Birmingham Museum of Art is the largest city museum in the South; if you''re into the decorative arts, it''s got the largest collection of Wedgwood outside of England.
I go to the big softball tournament in Birmingham every Easter weekend and we always have a great time. The people are friendly and at least that weekend, the bars are fun. \
Ignore the bitches who aren''t happy unless they piss on everything, OP.
These hot and sexy guys that come into Birmingham for the big softball weekend. You know what they do when the games are over? THEY LEAVE!! They go back to Nashville, Dallas, and Atlanta! but you are right r50 we have ONE count them ONE nationally ranked restaurant!\
op you will make a horrible mistake if you move to Birmingham
Well, there is gay possum eating...
I can''t get over the person whose ''wealthy friend'' from Tuscaloosa wouldn''t go into a bar "because there was a gay"...I am a Birmingham native who lived in Tuscaloosa for awhile and if the ''friend'' hasn''t seen any ''gays in Tuscaloosa, his name must be HELEN KELLER!
Got alot of action in Tuscaloosa
r54 It is called HOMOPHOBIA-- It runs rampant in every church and on every golf course in Alabama
I lived in Birmingham and it was that BAD!
[quote]Tell us about all the lynchings that happened in NYC, Buford. Do tell.\
Well, we do know that the NYC police love them black people. Anyone sodomized with a broom handle this week? Or grooms shot on the way to their weddings?
The Catholic Propaganda Network (EWTN) is headquartered there.
Isn''t this the city where the mayor hired the gay porn star to, um, install computer networks?
Oh, it''s even better than I remembered. It''s DL Legend Ryan Idol!
I live in Birmingham because in my relatively specialized medical field, I have a well paying job with an institution (UAB) that has supported me.\
There are a number of very good restaurants.\
The art museum, symphony, and ballet are all nationally prominent.\
The theater scene is vibrant.\
I''ve lived in Seattle, I''ve lived in San Francisco and I''m perfectly happy here.
Restaurants are not a problem. They''re superb.\
The oppressive, regressive, backwater mentality - that''s a problem. I''ve endured it five years. My solution was finally to buy a weekend condo in Atlanta, where for two days a week, I feel comfortable in my own skin.\
The people are super nice in BHM. I feel very... tolerated here.
Most people that live in Birmingham Leave Every weekend--either to Nashville, Atlanta, \
Beaches, Lakes--It will be absolutely dead this weekend here- Scotts Antique show in the ATL this weekend!--
All this gossamer ''weekend fleeing'' talk is hilarious. Are some of you so sad and Chihuahua-eyed that you have to routinely flee to Atlanta or Nashville to calm your delicate pearly nerves?
Mary, Queen of Scots
Stop with all the bar bashing. It''s really not about going to the bars. The number of bars reflect the depth of the gay population (i.e. the more bars, the bigger the "scene".) You may not choose to partake in the scene, but there is more likely a greater depth to other outlets (i.e. theater, music, food, etc.)\
So yes, when people say that there are only one or two gay bars in the city, it totally is reflective of how sad that city really is. \
The fact that people keep saying that you just need to get on a plane or drive to another city for a little action speaks VOLUMES!
I''ve lived in Birmingham, Miami, Philadelphia, Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Seattle, And Atlanta.\
If I could move back anywhere, it would be Birmingham. The people were nice, the pace relaxed, has an art scene, history, beautiful homes, hot guys, and a giant Thor who lets you know if there has been any traffic deaths.\
The one bad thing, It does have really bad traffic.
The land of the boll weevil\
Where the laws are medieval
Birmingham is made of approximately 35 different and distinct municipalities. Birmingham is really pretty horrible except for the Redmont and Forest Park neighborhoods. Downtown Loft District is DEAD. Otherwise Mountain Brook is the place to invest your money.
Bump for Bham
Anyone else from Bham?
Isn't Colton from Birmingham too?
[quote] I am invited to a Huge married man orgy next Tuesday Night - It should be really fun and alot of hot married guys--
I bet you ran into at least 2 acquaintances of mine from college who were gay in college, moved back to Birmingham, got married to women and had kids (who themselves are college age now).
And the cycle continues...
Friends of mine moved there not long ago. They said the first question they get asked whenever they meet someone (even just chit chatting on line at Starbucks) is "What church to you go to?"
Since moving there, their idea of a nice dinner out is Brio, which is like an upscale version of Olive Garden.
But they are happy there. They bought a HUGE house for about 1/5th of what it would cost in NY, NJ, CT.
I think I know who R62 is. Do you work in advertising?
The gay scene in Birmingham is not bad and is still growing. There is an LGBT Film Festival, many gay social organizations, a gay pride with a parade, LGBT meetup groups, and of course the bars. I have recently started an LGBT social blog for the area which will include news, blog posts, and a directory for the area. Check out bhamrainbowpages.com for more info.
I bet Birmingham is all a-twitter with the prospect of having another 'mo in their town.
That'll make like what? Three of you?
Looking for Libertee Belle. If he is alive and well or otherwise. Please let me know.
I know some real freaks who live there. Omnisexual s&m circus people, but they are ot the norm and stay there mostly because they'd be totally ignored in a city full of actual artists and are "special" in their small fish bowl. And one would be completely ignored and shunned for her dead eye and the other likely arrested for rape which doesn't seem to be illegal in Alabama.
I am the Grand Dame of Birmingham - And I think your a twit . . . Not my first choice of wordage - But I didn't wanna seem rude.
The Oldest Queen in Captivity
Great to hear from the true the one and only queen Bell long live the queen met u many years ago in Altoona al
Any more people from Birmingham?
Just moved to over the mountain really like the bhm area sofa far
I visited there briefly and am of split opinion on the place. It's an interesting city, with some fine residential neighborhoods and good architecture and restaurants and amenities. In many ways, it would be an easy and enjoyable place to live and live rather well.
A weekday night gay bar tour, however, might have been wrapped up tidily in a half hour, tops. The places were rather sad at best and worn down and rough at worst; all were time warps. The majority of the clientele seemed to come from a very small gene pool: round heads sitting directly on shoulders (without benefit of a neck), narrow slit eyes, self-administered haircuts, shoddy clothes, and a general slouchiness and lack of confidence -- the sort seen in a beaten dog. Even against my checked expectations of having lived in the South and having traveled throughout it a good deal, Birmingham's gay bars were a deep disappointment. Granted, it was a mid-week night, but I've been other places that were slow --very slow even-- without smelling of sad desperation and such dim expectations on the part of both bars and clientele.
I would go back to Birmingham, but its gay bars would not be a draw -- not at all.
I thought I would like living there but last time I was there there was some kind of emergency curfew and regular people were no supposed to be on the street. Also, the county went bankrupt.
So I really think this may be one place so misgoverned that it might be wise to give it a pass.
The BF's ma and pa are leaving him a house in Birmingham. Tuscaloosa. He actually asked me if I wanted to move there after they've passed away.
I said no thanks
I live here and I love it. Contrary to popular belief - I am not dead. As a matter of fact was the Grand Marshall for the 25th GLBT Pride Parade in the city . . . I've also lived all over. But am happy to call The Magic (often Tragic) City my home . . . Libertee Belle - The Oldest Living Drag Queen in Captivity
I'm from the South and doubt I'll ever live there again. While Bham may be lovely, it's in a state and a region that are backward.
I'm glad there is some sort of gay scene there. You can also be fired from your job in Alabama and the rest of the South for being gay, because anti-discrimination laws there don't include gays and lesbians. You will never be able to marry there.
You are living in a place where people are nice to your face -- but routinely vote in ways that indicate they hate you.
But the houses are cheap, so yay.
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Interviewed at Saks' hq in B-ham. They seemed stupid and incompetent.
I was born and raised about 55 miles from Birmingham (Jasper). Everyone, except me, knew I was gay. In high school, I was popular in that everybody knew who I was. I always heard talk of queers, fags, and others. As I was an insider, I was never threatened or hurt.
The South really can't be described, but has to be experienced. It's complicated and simple, at the same time. Simple, all you need are good manners and good ethics. Show up to work/appointments on time, use "yes sir, no mam, please, thank you", and the biggest of red necks will soon respect you. You have to adjust to the South. The South does not adjust to you. And don't let them hick accents lure you into the false sense of someone who is dumb. They've got you all figured out the moment you walk in the door!
Ahhhh, Kansas City. Not the same since I lived there in the 70s. Loved the Dover Fox. Last time I was there, it was a parking lot.
It really is the worst governed locality in the U.S. Serious police curfews are a frequent occurrence.
It's too bad because they have a nice infrastructure and fairly scenic location.
But cities are made by people, and people in Bham are ... well, don't turn your back on them.
[quote]It really is the worst governed locality in the U.S.
At least Larry Langford is out of our hair.
The folks in Birmingham make the folks in Detroit look smart. I'm just sayin'.
I live in Manhattan and am looking at an opportunity in Birmingham for a company that has its US headquarters in NYC. I'm entertaining the idea because: a) it's a great career move, and; b) the housing is dirt cheap compared to NYC and I can save a lot of money.
Reading about "police curfews" sends up some serious red flags. They're something I've only heard about.
Taken altogether, this makes me wonder why large, successful companies are moving profitable brands to Birmingham if the government there is a mess.
R95. I've lived in Alabama 32 years and Birmingham 8 years. I have never heard of a police curfew. It ain't no Manhattan (yes, language intended for effect), but what is? There are many beautiful areas and a very nice quality of life. It's all about what you're looking for but it's never as bad as my Manhattan friends assume. Recently asked with a little reservation...."do you have Starbucks in Alabama?" There are 5 within 1.5 miles of my home. Again, not like one on every corner in Manhattan, but, enough.
We have Starbucks and Saks and an opera company and a ballet and a vibrant theater scene. Yeah, the bar scene sucks but who needs it.
$500 of your child is on the street at 9:01 p.m.
Even if they are with you. Jail time for both children and parents if they repeat.
I was threatened by some rednecks at a motel in Jasper in 2004.
Nope. sorry. it was 2002.
[quote]I love how some of you still cling to the stereotypes of Southern Life. So Untrue and often unfounded bad movie fodder.
Just shut your mouth now!
OP may be dinge, but I need a driver.
[quote]They said the first question they get asked whenever they meet someone (even just chit chatting on line at Starbucks) is "What church to you go to?"
How do they respond when you answer 'The Chapel Of The Eternally Damned Sodomites Of Beelzebub'?
Can't speak for the city of Birmingham itself, but the gay men and women I know there are wonderful. Salt of the earth, intelligent and good looking. They made me think, for a minute, that maybe I could live there.
And God, don't I miss Publix.
"I would walk all the way
From Boulder to Birmingham,
If I thought I could sit,
I could sit on your face."