Does objectifying muscular black men make me a racist or open-minded?
Musclebound, thuggish looking black guys get me weak in the knees. There, I said it. I just think that these guys are the ultimate in masculinity and hotness. Is my fetishizing racist or does it make me open-minded? I debate this within myself constantly, and I never get a clear answer. What do you think? The guys in the SFW pic are the types I''m talking about.
More than likely, it means you have a thing for down low black queens.
You are spot on OP, black guys are hotter, i get stared a lot at the gym.
black guy 23
If you wouldn''t find the same guy attractive if he was in a suit and tie or a polo shirt and khakis, then yeah, you are a bit racist.
No, if you like ghetto, then go for it. Don''t ask us to endorse it. Just do it.
it makes you an anti-semite.
OP, I know EXACTLY whay you are talking about. In the early 1990''s I was robbed on a downtown N train; my wallet was stolen at knifepoint by 3 black guys who cornered me.\
I swear to God that night after I called the police and credit card companies I masturbated thinking ofthose 3 guys and I exploded.
why do all these assholes wear those stupid do rags?
It makes you neither, just a little stupid. You like thuggish black men...just accept and enjoy.
Beefy and muscular and thugish black guys are hot, but the hottest black guys in my book are the lean muscular black guys, think swimmer''s build style. If they were glasses and dress conservatively, but hint at meaty thighs and bubbly butts and narrow waists and broad shoulders underneath their threads... ooh lord, my mussy gets moist just thinking about it. \
If any of you saw "Chopped" this week, there was a black cheftestant on the show... he was a perfect example of this look.
There''s nothing wrong with how you are feeling. We all have are "things". What makes you racist is that your ancestors created both the "buck" uber-sexual stereotypes and imagery while emasculating Black men so that attempting to portray a twisted super-masculinity was necessary. That''s all, sweetie.
42 yr old here. I don''t know the answer to your question, can you help me with mine.\
How do guys keep pants from falling to the ground when they wear them so low.
The stupid caps and low-slung jeans make me want to vomit.\
The rest of it is [italic]mighty fine[/italic].
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oh I agree r13, they are good looking men.\
I just don''t understand why you would wear your pants like that or the logistics of keeping them up.
It''s just the style. They wear belts sometimes.\
OP, would you date any of the black men about whom you fantasize? I think that the response may answer your question regarding whether you may be racist.
R15 is correct.\
OP, if you wouldn''t introduce the object of your desire to your friends or take him home to meet the folks because he''s too "ghetto," then yes, you are a racist.
Yeah I''m like that with Latino trash. Outside of the bedroom though I don''t want anything to do with them.
R16 confuses issues of class with issues of race. This is a damaging reductionism here in the United States, as it is crucial to be clear about one''s biases.\
If I bring a coworker who shares my love of art and travel and fine food home to meet my mother, and he happens to be black, that''s fine, I suppose. But if I hesitate to take home a nastay ghetto boy who is covered in tats and who undertakes the character of a dangerous hoodlum, I''m a racist? No, dear, I''m not. I''m exercising discretion in the form of a class bias, or vice versa.\
If you don''t get it, fine. I''m not likely to invite you to meet my mother in any event, for other reasons.
I can''t believe anyone is still asking about low-riding pants. Did you just wake up from a coma, or what?
A classist is just as odious as a racist, r18.
Though I lust after them, no, a thuggish guy is not someone I would date or bring home to my family. Neither would a white guy from a similar background. If I were a chubby chaser, a fat person wouldn''t be someone I''d necessarily show off either. So as another poster noted, it''s probably not really about race as it is about socioeconomic and social status.
OP/21 and R18: two elitist and absolutely clueless queens.\
You two should really hook up. You could make each other blissfully miserable, or even more miserable than you both already are.
So you''re a snob, r21, and one who slums at that. Congratulations.
No, it only means you have very good taste.
Hot for Black Muscle Men
Most likely, they would have a loveless marriage but they would share lots and lots of tricks, r22.
R16, but is it any different than some hetero guy who wants to fuck a blond bimbo? I''m sure he wouldn''t want to bring her home to mom. Why is that not bigoted?\
If the OP wouldn''t want to bring home a well-educated black man, that''s a different story.
Today she''s a bimbo, tomorrow she''s arm candy, r26. Straight guys aren''t ashamed at bagging bimbos, dear; they show them off. The exception might be Blue Blood types, but the ailment there is obvious: the same paralyzing snobbery that is on display among some of the posters chiming in on this thread.
I''m black and I wouldn''t date a eminem type. Embarrassing!!! Imagine me sitting at the dinner table with family with some white wanna be black thug.
Find sex hot with someone you think is beneath your social status has been around forever.
So have misogyny, exploitation, and abuse, r29. It doesn''t make them less lousy.
"If I bring a coworker who shares my love of art and travel and fine food home to meet my mother..."\
Yes, that walk up the stairs from the basement you mean.
You know who is an incredibly fine-looking black guy?\
Shame on all of you. Black guys of any persuasion should first be encouraged to try marriage with a sister. They''re really struggling these days. One in six marriages in the U.S. are now mixed, but black gals have been left sitting on the side line during this trend.
Since you use the word ''objectify'', OP, I would say you swing more toward racism than open-mindedness. And quite a bit.
Oh, I dunno, R36. I think that human turd at R18 and OP are in a neck and neck race to the bottom of the barrel.
[quote} What makes you racist is that your ancestors created both the "buck" uber-sexual stereotypes and imagery while emasculating Black men so that attempting to portray a twisted super-masculinity was necessary. That''s all, sweetie.\
[quote]If any of you saw "Chopped" this week, there was a black cheftestant on the show... he was a perfect example of this look.\
He was quite cute and he won!
I''ve always been drawn to the black male stereotypes seen in movies from the thirties and forties. My favorite is Snowflake.
[quote]What makes you racist is that your ancestors created both the "buck" uber-sexual stereotypes and imagery while emasculating Black men so that attempting to portray a twisted super-masculinity was necessary. That''s all, sweetie.\
White people truly are sick!
Just another gratuitous black man photo. Carry on.
There sure are a lot of name-calling posers here who think that anything other than white guilt or pretending class issues don''t exist makes a person a racist. And they''re hypocrites, because no one believes they don''t get off on objectifying black guys into something they themselves wouldn''t recognize. Terrible tendencies, and they''ll be spending years alone wondering why.\
"How do guys keep pants from falling to the ground when they wear them so low?"\
Because they hold them up by grabbing their dicks constantly through their pants.\
Recently, I was waiting for the train, and this fine brutha walked up, bubble butt encased in boxers, pants just beneath. I told him he had a beautiful ass. He smirked at me and pulled his pants up.\
What gets me is the females actually let the men dress that way.
Guess what? Some black guys objectify white guys too. And some Asian guys objectify latinos who objectify native indian who objectify ,,,,,,\
When it comes to sex, a little objectification is not necessarily such a bad thing. Go ahead treat me like a sex object. Just don''t make me write bad cheques.
OP, I love handsome black men. Not necessarily thugish. For me there is NOTHING hotter than a hot, black man. I don''t care what it''s called or how it''s judged. I LOVE THEM!
I''m hot for 50 Cent
"Though I lust after them, no, a thuggish guy is not someone I would date or bring home to my family. Neither would a white guy from a similar background. If I were a chubby chaser, a fat person wouldn''t be someone I''d necessarily show off either."\
Do the guys you''re having sex with care that you''re only interested in them to the extent that you find them dangerous/unsuitable/a secret vice? That seems like a more important question than what we think about it.
A hot black guy dropped trou in the locker room just as I was slowly passing by him the other night. He timed it perfectly for me to get a good look. OMG, at least eight inches long, thick, and semi hard. I wonder if he got it half erect because he knew I wanted to see it? Whatever the case, I''ve been thinking about that perfect dick of his ever since.
Maybe you should just forget about race. I am black and the guys you describe are incredibly hot to me but I just think of them as hot guys and not hot black guys. It''s not like you''re attracted to every single black guy. Hot is hot, that''s all there is to it.
When your pants are so low, like they are in OP's pic, why bother even putting them on?
It's like putting a dress on, over your head, then just stopping when it's wrapped around your neck.
It depends what you mean by "objectifying"? If you are merely saying that you have a strong sexual response to muscular black men, it has nothing to do with objectification, and is merely having a turn on - like a turn on some people have for blonde men in their 20s or silver haired guys in their 40s. Or hairy white guys with beards, or Italian guys, or Asian guys, or guys with bubble butts. It has nothing to do with a feeling of superiority or dehumanization or with being open-minded.
It's just sex.
People need to learn the difference between what is race-related and being a racist. It's a world of difference.
Stay away from the brothas, you piece of white trash. They belong to us.
it makes you horny, OP
It depends OP do you objectify Bieber? If not then yes you are a racist.
more pics please
RACIST. If you base something on race you're a racist.
So those of us who are into Latinos, Asians, Arabs, etc, are racists. I'm glad to be a racist then. If I find someone with red hair to be hot, then I guess I'm a bigot as well. Sorry, but you can't help what you're attracted to, and the PC Marys need to die in a grease fire already. It's human nature.
I love the ones who say that if you're not attracted to a particular race, which is based on appearance, then you're a racist. So I guess we need to sleep with people we're not attracted to just to prove we're not racist. I'm probably a misogynist because I won't sleep with a pre-op transsexual.
My desire for them transcends any judgment anyone can make. There is no one in the world hotter than a hot black man.
I don't think people are racist for finding a particular ethnic group or feature attractive. However, such people should be careful how they express their attractions. Using words like "black meat," "black d***," "hot tamale," or "black buck" are widely viewed as offensive and racist. They reflect blatant objectification of a person's race or ethnic background in a most offensive manner.
Most buff muscular dudes who spend lots of time in the gym are exhibitionists who desire some level of objectification.
My friend only dates black guys. I think he prefers the Wall Street type, but he is currently dating a trainer with a body to die for. He says black guys equal less drama.
I think it's only racist if your ONLY interactions with black people (besides dealing with service personell) are through "thug" hookups. If you're uncomfortable around black people and make no attempt to treat them as equals and get to know some of them on a deeper level, then yes, you are fetishizing an entire race, and in the embodiment of one of the worst and most threatening incarnation (a "trashy thug" as opposed to just black guys in general). If you like black men sexually, it stands to reason that you should have respect and affinity for black people in general (manifested in non-sexual situations and relationships). If you don't, and you just like them as sex machines, you're really not treating them any better than a convenient sexual aid.
I think fetishizing a particular race is worse than excluding one from your potential sex partner pool. I'm far more suspicious of a white guy who dates another race exclusively, than one who admits he's not into a particular race. The former seems like more of a deliberate effort with a (possibly convoluted) motivation behind it, while the latter just seems like typical social conditioning to gravitate towards people that you likely share common experiences and associations with.
Only a little.
no such thing as race in humans, what we think of as race is a social and cultural construct.
I think the conundrum OP refers to is, 'if I don't prefer The Other, I'm considered racist, if I DO prefer The Other, I'm fetishistic and also racist.'
I'm 'mixed race' but was raised in rural white america and can't recall any prejudice coming my parents. it was only when I moved away to an urban area that I began to encounter different 'races' and the accompanying prejudice and to this day resist internalizing them.
it's like some giant advertising campaign, so-and-so's eat/drive/are hung like/act like this that is reinforced and echo chambered at us constantly every day
and because of our constant search for validation, whenever we encounter something that fits these programmed biases, it reinforces it.
I harbor more prejudice and stereotypes now than when I left home, and being aware of how that came to be keeps me from turning into a bigot.
What I find funny is when people say only dating white men isn't racist and that it's a preference. Oh please. To discriminate by race is the definition of racism.
It is funny how people who say they are only attracted to one race usually also have views that are racist or bigoted, although usually disguised.
[quote]What I find funny is when people say only dating white men isn't racist and that it's a preference. Oh please. To discriminate by race is the definition of racism.
I've no problem with that as long as you also agree that Asians who date only white men (or women) are also racist as per your definition. I often see only whites get condemned as racist for wanting to date other whites, but not Asians, many of whom will only date white people.
There are black women who only date white men, and a lot of times for a personal reasons that goes beyond finding white men attractive. They get shit from their community, but I bet not one white person in this thread would dare call them out for it, labeling them racist.
Remember, we're talking about sexuality here. No one is saying that they wouldn't be friends with a person of a particular race. There's a difference. Sexual preference is subconscious. That's never going to end, and it shouldn't.
I'm half Italian, and I don't find Italian guys attractive. So-fucking-what? That's my business. I'm not going to sleep with someone just so you PC idiots can feel better. I grew up with Italians. Half of my family is Italian. I'm close to them all. I just don't want to fuck any of my Italian friends, even though I've had the opportunity. I don't find them attractive sexually.
Black women who will only date black men are racist.
Funnily enough, I'm sure all of you who are outraged over the concept of only sleeping with a certain ethnicity probably have your own sexual preferences, and make comments about 'rice queens' all the time. 'Asians have tiny dicks.'
Actually [R92], what you said about black women only dating white men for more reasons doesn't make it any less racist, there's probably some self hate involved. It applies with everyone, if you discriminate against someone SOLEY on their race, that is the definition of racism regardless of if it's friendship or more in my opinion. Mainly because you're basically writing off an entire group of people based on what? Melanin in the skin? It's crazy that people think excluding a race doesn't make them prejudice against one....how does that make sense?
I'm still cherry, but I want my first time to be with a big dick black man. He won't be too rough will he?
The first answer was on target -- you're more a fetishist than a racist. Though many will disagree with the definition, "racist" usually means the person is an active participant in the race-based negative discrimination and oppression of a non-dominant race (relative to the culture at large).
Me, I'll confess, I am a white guy with a few "types" of my own and one of them is a handsome, well-put-together man of color with a fit body, tight sense of grooming/style, and a distinctive sense of fashion. The antithesis of thug. Something about the aesthetic of unusual good looks and a face/race/skin that is very different from my own. Fortunately NYC has quite a few hot men who fit this description. Every other day there's someone on the subway like this and I want so badly to come home with him and slide his clothes off... slowly... as we start to make out...
Being attracted to dark skin or African features doesn't make you racist. It doesn't make you special, enlightened or more evolved, either.
Fetishizing black men for being "thuggish" most definitely is racist.
No, Alexander. He'll be perfectly kind and gentle. I know this because I'm psychic. How lucky for you that I was here to answer your question.
R100, Thank you sooooo much, today WAS my lucky day, you are the best!!!!! Are you the resident psychic here at DL.
Alex, losing cherry tonight
Check your privilege, OP!!!!
I wish there were more interracial gay porn. Unfortunately, most gay porn is white-white or black-black.
I think the short-lived UK series "Sirens" would be relevant to your interests, OP. Game of Thrones star Richard Madden plays a gay character that shares your fetish. The show did a pretty decent job of showing how problematic race fetishism is.
Anyway, the good bits start after the 1 minute mark.
The people objectifying Black men are the ones saying it's fetishist to be attracted to them.
No, you like what you like and they're the ones obsessed with boxing people off. It's even hotter that it pisses-off the identity politics, self-obsessed drama queens.
Notice how this ends-up about them, their interpretation of YOUR sexual preferences and they don't even allow you to have a say in your own tastes and opinions?
So sick of these Fascist, attention whores, who pretend bullying people into homogeneous styles and opinions is for the good of everyone.
I kind of want Tyler Perry to take me, dressed as Madea. Is that fetishist?
I objectify all day every day, race irrelevant. All I see are bodies that I want to twist into all sorts of different position and bang repeatedly. I am perfectly normal.
i think it shows a progressive open minded view. good for you op keep up the good work
R146 It's these asexual Social Justice! types. They're obsessed with horny-shaming men.
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