I am so pissed off right now.
My neighbors got a pit bull a couple of weeks ago. They don't have a fence around their yard, so they usually keep it tied up outside. Apparently it's the teenagers' job to take care of it, and they are constantly losing control of it.
I do have a fence around my yard, because I have three small dogs and three cats. They have a pet door, so they can go out as they please.
This morning the dogs were standing inside at the pet door barking. I look outside, and the fucking pit bull is ON MY FRONT PORCH! The neighbors came and got it, but I'm pissed. Had it figured out the pet door, it could have come in my house while I was asleep.
I've looked around the entire fence, and I cannot figure out how it got in. There are no spaces big enough to climb through. I don't think it could jump the fence, unless it climbed on top of something sitting next to the fence underneath my carport (I've seen my cats do this).
Now I'm worried about the safety of my animals. One of my cats has been missing all day, but that's not unusual and I didn't see any blood or anything anywhere, so hopefully he's safe, but now I'm worried that it's only a matter of time before something happens.
Check your city & county ordinances. They are illegal in many places.
Does your community have leash laws? If so, I''d call Animal Control to make a complaint. I know they can''t do anything after the fact, but perhaps they could take a report so that there''s a record of a complaint if it happens again. \
Good luck. I hope your kitty is safe.
I think you should call the police and file a report. In some places it''s illegal to leave a dog tied up outside for more than an hour or two.\
I hope your cat shows up.
Poison the mofo.
Tell the neighbors you''re getting a gun and if the dog shows up in your yard, it''s dead meat.
Do you have a neighborhood association? You need to make sure your neighbors know that there''s a pit bull in the neighborhood that isn''t properly restrained.
Is the dog aggressive? Has it lunged at you or your small dogs? Has it behaved in a violent manner? If not, all you are doing right now is contributing to the assumptions and negative attitudes of a misunderstood and much falsely maligned breed.\
I can''t believe there are posters on this board, full of animal lovers, that would suggest killing another person''s dog when all it has done, from the information we''ve been given, is sit on the porch.
OP, you and your critters are in danger girl!
Here. Educate yourselves. Stop perpetuating hate from unfamiliarity and ignorance. You wouldn''t think this would have to be explained in a gay forum...yet here we are.
*sigh* Those people are shitty pet owners, because a dog should *not* be kept tied up outside all the time, and definitely should not be allowed to get loose on a regular basis.\
But pits have an unfair reputation. Yes, there''s a concern about them around smaller animals, but not because they are pit bulls, but because they are terriers. My parents have an Irish terrier, and as soon as she sees a squirrel or a rabbit or a cat or a small dog, she gets tunnel vision and turns ferocious. She''d be a killing machine if we let her loose, but we don''t. Most of the pit bulls I know are big mush heads with people, even ones that were abused and have little to no reason to trust humans.\
Anyway, keeping a dog chained up all day long is a surefire way to make a dog aggressive and more likely to be dangerous. So, call animal control and inform them that there''s a dog being neglected and either chained outside or running loose and it''s a bad situation all the way around.
OP? Responsible pet owners keep their cats inside and their dogs are only let out under the owner''s supervision.\
That said, I would report your neighbors to your local animal control agency since they have a dog with no way of keeping him from wandering freely around the neighborhood, since there is no fencing at all around their yard and in many places it is illegal to keep dogs of any size tied up for their safety as well as everyone else''s.
Thank you for your level-headed post, Mermaid. I get so frustrated, defending the breed of my sweetie all the time--that would be the mushy dumbdumb face I drew eyebrows on in the "stupid things you did to your pets" thread.
I can assure this kind of think never happens on Walker''s Point
Except that 99.9% of pitbull owners tend to be sociopathic fucktards who buy that breed specifically to intimidate and terrorize people and their pets. Any sane person avoids that breed for precisely the reputation those dogs have...it''s just not worth the hassle.
Quit fucking defending pitbulls you morons. There is no reason for people to have them. They are dangerous. It''s always assholes like you who "can''t believe it" when their oh so cuddly pitbull attacks someone.
Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are responsible for two thirds of dog attack related deaths in the US and Canada.\
Pit Bulls and Rottweilers do not make up anywhere near two thirds of the dog population in these countries.\
They are over-represented in dog bite fatalities because they are unpredictable - too often the "child friendly" and "trained" pit bull or Rottweiler of the "reponsible pet owner" unpredictably maims or kills children, adults, or other pets.
Are your neighbors trashy? Pit bull owners usually are. You won''t be able to get them to take care of their dog responsibly - call the police, involve animal control - but don''t waste your time trying to get them to be responsible for their dog.\
Pit bull owners have a sense of entitlement because they''re delusional about the breed. They don''t care about others'' safety or pet safety because "Mah dog! You''re saying bad things about mah dog! He''s different! He''s not like the ones that attack kids! He''s mah dog!"
I have two cats. If I lived in a tight neighborhood with car ports etc, I would not let them go in and out via a pet door. Not for a second. Same with small dogs.\
Cats cannot be contained by a fence either.\
Something is not right with this post. \
I also think neighbors might now like a neighbor with that many pets coming and going as they want. After all, as the OP said, not unusual for the cats to "disappear" for a while. \
It all sound irresponsible to me- I feel badly for the pets.
First off, Petey the Pup on Little Rascals was a pit bull. He was on set, around all those kids all day long, and there was never an issue.\
Second off, the American Temperament Test Society tested pit bulls and 85.3% of them passed. Only 81% of *beagles* passed, for goodness sakes.\
Pit bulls are bred to be people pleasers and it comes through loud and clear. Yes, there are lots of assholes (like the OP''s neighbors) who shouldn''t have *any* pets, who get pit bulls because they think it makes them look tough or cool, or what the fuck ever, but there are also lots of people who have them because they like their energy level or their devotion or just want to rescue an all too often mistreated breed.\
Personally, I just have a huge thing for pit bull smiles.
My neighbors 3 doors down had a pit bull that was friendly and well behaved. Never a problem. Then one day it broke through the fence and attacked some kids riding bikes through the neighborhood. It was totally random and scary as hell - the dog had never done anything like that before and had been around lots of kids. \
It''s bizarre how these dogs just snap one day. Sadly, someone usually requires reconstructive surgery or a coffin after being attacked by a pit bull. No responsible person who lives around other people will acquire one of these dogs as a pet.
No, R21, you''re exactly wrong. It takes a person of EXCEPTIONAL responsibility to take on a pit bull because of the extra burden of people''s mistrust and misconceptions. But of course I''m not naive and I''m not an asshole-I would never leave my dog unsupervised with a child.\
There are asshole pet owners associated with all breeds, and people who acquire dogs for the image and intimidation factor, not just my breed. In the 80''s it was Dobermans, then Rottweilers, now Pit Bulls.\
I''ve had dogs my entire life and I''ve worked in the ER. The worst dog bite I''ve ever seen was from a beagle. Nearly took a guy''s nose and face off.
I don''t think my community has many animal regulations. I live in a pretty rural area and I see dogs running loose in people''s unfenced yards all the time (though I think some people have underground electric fences). Even the state trooper who lives a few miles down the road lets his German Shepherds run around unrestrained. And last year two unrestrained dogs killed a small child and the DA declined to prosecute the dog owners for anything.\
And my cat finally came in.
they have now been bred to fight. no more petie shit. they are devil dogs!
Agree with R4 and R5. Hate them. Used to live in an apartment building with a guy on my floor who had 2 pitbulls. Thought his dogs were "little angels" and would let them run up to folks and their children unexpectantly no matter how many times he was told to keep his dogs at bay. I am so glad I don''t live on the floor with him anymore.
I''m glad your cat is back, OP. Please do not take the advice on this thread that involves poison or threats. Just call animal control if the dog is loose.
Jesus Christ, these pet threads are fucking LUNACY.
Wake up call: ANIMALS DON'T BELONG IN YOUR HOUSE or even around it. They PARTICULARLY do not belong in a suburban or city environment.
It is irresponsible, inconsiderate and cruel to expect wild animals to "function" or, better yet, "listen to reason". Are you fucking NUTS? I mean, "domesticated" (no such thing) animals shouldn't really cohabitate with humans AT ALL in the first place. We should treat them like deer or birds or snakes, you know: WILD ANIMALS, but no: LET'S DOMINATE AND CONTROL THEM to make ourselves feel better and less lonely.
It's all so transparent. Pet "lovers" make me sick and you all need to look in the mirror and realize how fucked up you are to be in "love" with this animal that you LIVE with. It's all so absurd. Even the Egyptians knew not to LIVE with cats. How far we've come in those intervening thousands of years... or not.
It doesn't matter that you can't/don't have children: AN ANIMAL IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A HUMAN BEING. IT DOES NOT LOVE YOU BACK. If you actually gave a pet free will and an open door and stopped feeding it and talking to it, it would RUN from you. That is, if the criminally cruel in-breeding that goes on - mentally/socially/environmentally-challenged animals coming as a result - hasn't robbed said pet of it's last vestige of authentic self before man decided to "befriend it" with cruelty, inbreeding and permanent solitary confinement in your house. How nice man treats his "best friend" like that, isn't it?
Fact: More children go hungry in America every night than pets.
We'll see who wins this round, won't we?
Mother Fucking Nature
unexpectantly = unexpectedly (for the spelling trolls)
I am kind of stunned so many of you are so ignorant about pit bulls. I''m more horrified that OP lets his cats outside with dogs running loose all over the neighborhood.
Is the dog aggressive? Has it lunged at you or your small dogs? Has it behaved in a violent manner? If not, all you are doing right now is contributing to the assumptions and negative attitudes of a misunderstood and much falsely maligned breed.
stfu The neighbors aren't taking care of this dog.So everything else goes out the window. I know all types of dogs can bite a person, but I never hear about a cocker spaniel killing anyone. What I do hear 50% of the time is, "the dog never did this before", "we don't know what came over the dog", "he just attacked" And the other 50% say "this dog was trouble", "he's bitten other people"
OP, you are going to have to keep your pets in. The dog may have jumped over your fence. We used to have a dog that would jump over the fence and then not know how to get back in. You need to tell your neighbor that they need to do something about their dog,because you found their dog inside your yard - And this is unacceptable and it can not ever happen again.
Needless to say, you need to document everything that happens between you, the neighbors and their dog. You do need to talk to someone at Animal Control and find out the rules and regulations
[quote] Fact: More children go hungry in America every night than pets. \
Good. I HATE kids.
Not as much as your pet hates you, R32.
You should be having this conversation with your neighbors, not us.
If your fence is under 6 ft they can jump it\
My family has owned 2 - one simply amazing and affectionate and great with children and cats, with the ability to kick the more aggressive older one twice her size into submission. \
The second one had inbreeding and a bad upbringing by an irresponsible teenager early on. It was high maintenance keeping him separated from others and at times he would get aggressive for simply stopping patting him. My family got off on managing something so potentially dangerous. Which sadly most owners are like.\
I grew up in an urban area full of them, as much as one of my favorite dogs was a pitbull, I will always be cautious of the breed. They are animals and have their protective instincts.\
If you can keep your dogs in a 6ft fenced in area they will be ok, We also kept a spray bottle of ammonia by the door in case of emergencies but never had to use it. Our numerous family cats had good instincts and stayed clear of neighboring pitbulls.
Why would you want such and "unsightly" and "ghetto" type of dog?
Muffy Potter Aston''s Maltese
You should acquaint yourself with the dog, socialize him around your pets, train him to listen to your voice. We had terrible relations with our neighbors for years because of their aggressive barking dogs. We should have made the effor to coexist with them in some workable fashion. It made our dog''s life miserable to have to accomodate her outside time to when the neighbors brought their dog inside.
"Time To Eat The Dog" should be required reading for all idiots like OP who keep a menagarie of pets...\
SHOULD owning a great dane make you as much of an eco-outcast as an SUV driver? Yes it should, say Robert and Brenda Vale, two architects who specialise in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington in New Zealand. In their new book, Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living, they compare the ecological footprints of a menagerie of popular pets with those of various other lifestyle choices - and the critters do not fare well. \
As well as guzzling resources, cats and dogs devastate wildlife populations, spread disease and add to pollution. It is time to take eco-stock of our pets.
Those of you defending pit bulls are ignoring one of my main points: It was inside my fenced-in yard, steps away from my pet door. It could have come into my house while I was sleeping had my dogs not started barking.\
And don''t say "close the pet door," because my dogs need to be able to go out at all hours to use the bathroom. That''s why I have a fence.
OP they make pet doors now that operate via electronic signal worn on a pet''s collar.\
The door is closed and "locked" to all but those wearing the electronic "key."\
You might want to look into that if the city or county you live in takes no action against irresponsible pet owners who let their animals wander all over.
OP, do not let your dogs leave the house ever again, train them to use the toilet and to turn on the TV if they get bored
Only scumbag idiots and low class trash own pitbulls. I would never be friends with anyone who would own this weaponized breed. If I were, the OP, I set out some Popeye''s laced w/arsenic.
Regardless of the breed heebie-jeebies or petulant pit bill defenders, if the city/town doesn''t do something about it you''ve got a real problem, dear. And sometimes courage is needed to quietly and discreetly solve a problem that - through the bad judgment, bad actions and sheer stupidity of others - threatens our property, pets and selves.\
Two words: gopher bait
"We''re in shock. Maximillian never ate anybody before. We don''t know how this happened! We just didn''t think!"
Owners after their pitbull kills someone
"I have three small dogs and three cats"\
You have too many pets, OP.
R21''s account is why I would NEVER trust a pit bull. We have such bad luck that we had to have a neighbor with one right next door. They let him loose once and it was barking and threatening my niece, fortunately she made it back inside the house before anything happened. Her stupid ex-gf had the nerve to say she had been petting it earlier and it was "sweet", so why the sudden and ferocious change? I''m always on edge that that damn dog will bust through our fence. I think they are adorable looking as puppies, but once they get older, they turn into these horrible, frightening monsters and no one can convince me otherwise.
OP, are you going to block off your pet door?
Crossing my fingers for you and your pets!
R28 is such a fucktard that he can''t make a distinction between DOMESTICATED and wild animals? JFC!
You don''t need a pet door, OP.
A guy who lived across the hall from me a few years ago had a pit bull which terrified the building. One day when the owner was coming back from a walk, the elevator door opened and another dog owner was waiting outside with their maltese....the pit bull lunged and snapped up the maltese and and killed him instantly.....completely unprovoked.
I also saw a pit bull attack a chihuahua on a sidewalk....a lady was walking her chihuahua on a leash down the sidewalk and the pit bull lunged out of a cafe/bar and snapped up the dog. Luckily in this case, enough people surrounded the pit and got him to release the chihuahua....the poor dog had chunk of skin the size of a silver dollar missing from his back.
I have a good friend with a very nice pit bull but even she knows that there are limits on how much control she has over the dogs instinct and she keeps her away from situations that could cause problems...so it is up to the owners to be responsible as the dog should never be allowed to get out to attack someone or another animal.
The only reason anyone gets a pit bull is because they know people are intimidated by this breed. They may not be full blown sociopaths, but they have tendencies toward it. They don''t care that these dogs inflict both emotional fear and physical attack on others; they care that the dog is intimidating and makes them feel like they have power over people.\
These dogs were bred for hunting, attacking, and killing - they do not belong around other animals or people. \
It is unlikely your neighbors will ever get rid of that dog or manage to take care of it. People who get off on scaring others with these dogs tend not to care their negative impacts.\
The next time this dog shows up on your property, detain it and call animal control or the police.
R51 - detain it?
KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT BEFORE IT KILLS YOU BEFORE IT KILLS YOU BEFORE IT KILLS YOU IT WILL KILL YOUR PETS IT WILL KILL YOUR PETS IT WILL KILL YOUR PETS
THE PIT BULL ZEITGEIST
I recently ran into a woman I used to work with. She has 8 pit bulls and 2 German shepherds - and she lives in a regular subdivision/ development in the Atlanta area, so she doesn''t have a big yard. \
I''d hate to be one of her neighbors. She works and her boyfriend sits at home all day on the couch. I can not imagine what her backyard looks like. It must be dog shit central
I love the pittbulls in my neighborhood, they are obviously all rescues aa the owners are sweet nice people too. Very affectionate animals.
The people a few houses down have 2 Pitbulls. They do not control them well. The younger one got loose and attacked a little girl. She was okay...more scared then actually hurt, but it was very frightening to see. \
I don''t trust dogs in general, but that breed in particular. Regardless of what they were like 80 years ago when Little Rascals was made they have been ill breed since and are now a frightening, dangerous breed.
55 posts, and you have all remained oblivious to the obvious threat next door.\
OP should be much more concerned about the untethered teenager next door.
Glad I went to college and don''t have to live in R55''s neighborhood.
R58, I live in downtown Manhattan in a doorman building and I see people walking pit bulls all the time. I am sure they make up the vast majority of the dogs that the ASPCA adopts out, at least in New York.
Obviously the breed has a propensity for aggressive behavior (while it seems most breeds are being increasingly bred for temperament, it seems that pit bulls are getting more and more aggressive), but I am sure that many pit bulls can be good pets provided that the owners invest the time and money into a well-structured and very thorough training regimen as well as making sure that the dog is properly and extensively socialized -- and many people who are passionate about adopting shelter dogs tend to be the kind of pet owners who are willing to commit that sort of time, money and energy to raising and caring for their pets.
But I agree with many posters here, the breed tends be most popular among trashy, thuggish low-income types who buy them to support some sort of sad "lifestyle" image and who don't bother to properly train them -- I would support restricting the breed, less because I think that all pit bulls are dangerous, and more because the people who keep buying pit bulls unfortunately make them dangerous.
Ive got some neighbors that just moved in and so did their pitbull. I have a kid and there are 6 other kids tha are here regularly.
The 1st timeI noticed it was when I had he kids outside playin. My dog being the herder started pushing them away from it. She is brave and its in her nature even if shes terrified.
I also have a little old lady next door that likes to go on her daily walk...now shes scared to. With good reason .it tried 2 attack me tonight.Called the cops and they did nothing.
I do not like this dog in my neighborhood. I am also afraid for my dog. I think all I can do is contact the neighborhood watch. People houldnt live in fear & it not able & to go outside. dog thinks he own the place.
Im very frustrated and upset thes dogs are fatal. My friends and family shouldnt have to do what they do on their own property.Ive been here 15 years sooooo fuck that.
I live i tulsa they just lifted the ban against them!
Im not so sure I shoulnt address this issue with the city. So after I wrote a novel on here,who should I contact?
Why is it that trashy, insipid, powerless people own these animals as "pets"? One reason is that pets have become a fashion accessory and an extention of one's personality. Most of these owners are aggressive or passive/aggressive and it gives them a sense of being powerful.
One night my friend and I stopped by her friend's house, who owns a pit bull. As we were leaving, I was standing by my friend at the door and the pit bull walked right across the living room towards us and chomped all the way through my thigh! My friend's friend would say that his pit bull was the sweetest dog and would never hurt a fly. Come to find out, it also bit a post woman and another person. I now have a permanent scar.
Pit bulls are be banned in more and more places all over the world. I can't wait until the breed is exterminated. It is highly disgusting to own one of these animals - ESPECIALLY in a city!
Stop making excuses for pit bulls. They are dangerous and unpredictable.
If you see the dog off a leash, R59, call animal control immediately. Our dog (who's a large breed) is on three legs because of a pit bull.
Grind up some glass and put it in a raw steak and throw it over the fence. Fuck a damn pitbull and all their stupid ass owners
r62, please get help.
R63 - I love you too sweetheart...
Glad to know we have an anti-pet troll now.
My dear friend lives in a neighbourhood that seemed to me to have a pitbull in near every other yard (and they all had those low chainlink fences, nothing higher than my hip.) good number were also tied up, which I have been told just makes a dog incredibly territorial and protective of the little but of land it has been given, and therefore much more likely to act aggressively.
They interrupted an attack on a man by a pit. He survived, but was extensively injured. It is believed the dog was deliberately set on the victim by the owner, used as a weapon if you will.
These friends also own and adore an elderly pitbull cross who they rescued from a puppy mill that was breeding dogs for fighting. He is a soft thing, but they made sure to socialise and train him very well and did not stop doing so as long as they have had him.
They have long loved the breed, and having seen the damage they can do when ill-used and ill-treated, still do so. That said, they also saw their beloved pet kill a cat that came into the yard with a frightening ease...
Myself, I'm wary of most dogs since I was attacked whilst walking my own dog. It was a pit cross. The young owner let it off the lead and was a good two minutes behind it (we are in a semi-rural area).
So very much seems to depend on the owner, and I don't trust enough people to do the right thing so that I can then trust their dogs.
I am glad your cat is home, OP.
The misunderstood, much wrongly-maligned bullshit is just that, bullshit.
Every so often there is a news report of a person being mauled by this breed.
It's not poodles that kill people, it's pit bulls!
6 animals is way too many. You sound nuts.
And don't let your cats outside unsupervised. It severely shortens their lifespan. Indoor cats live 3x longer than outdoor cats.
Re: relying on the pet door so the dogs can pee and defecate? Have you tried walking them, ya lazy fuck?
You sound as trashy as your neighbors.
My neighbors also have pit bulls, I hear them barking all of the time but as far as I know, they've only gotten loose once but I'm afraid it might happen again and I don't want anyone in my family to get attacked by one of those things. I don't care what anyone says about them not being an aggressive breed, I don't trust them and hate that we had the bad luck to live by people who own them.
Did you check the law where you live? It is illegal to chain a dog in some places.
If the dog does not have shelter or water or is chained in the sun you can call animal control
I tell lies to get what I want. Politely tell them their dog was in your yard trying to get one of your cats or was trying to get into your house.
There is nothing wrong with pit bulls. There is plenty wrong with pit bull owners. They need socialization and attention and when not a part of a family household live miserable lives.
We all change as we get older. When I was a kid, someone in my neighborhood poisoned a dog. I remember thinking that was the meanest and cruelest act imaginable.
Now, living next to a barking dog, it seems like the only rational option. (I would never do something like that, but I fantasize about it constantly)
Talk to the neighbors. If that doesn't work, call animal control or the police. Regardless of the breed, animals belong in their own yard, not a neighbors porch. Regardless of what pit bull supporters tell you, when hey bite it is completely different from most breeds. They clamp and thrash, like a shark. So if all else fails, and the dog is in your yard, get a gun and blow his fucking head off.
Very true. One got my cocker and even though the owner was right there it was a mess to get the dog off of her. She clubbed the pit in the head and stuck a metal bar in it's mouth to pry it's jaws open we almost lost the battle.
Poor Poco suffered greatly but she survived.
I'm so glad they're banned here (Ontario.) Though some idiot ball player from Florida who just got traded to the Blue Jays is vowing to fight the ban so he can bring his dog here. Stay in FL, moron.
R59, report any dog attacks or attempted attacks to animal control. Our animal control keeps track, and they have a three strikes and you're out rule. They've gotten rid of a number of aggressive pit bulls using that rule.
Sooo tired of trashy pit owners and their denial and rationalizations. Are most of them perfectly normal dogs? I'm willing to buy that. But if a perfectly normal dog has characteristics that attract perfectly sociopathic owners, than ownership needs to be restricted,even if the dog on its own would be completely safe. Dogs are pets--they do not live on their own, so what they would or wouldn't do in the absence of "bad" owners is irrelevant. Stop construing this as some sort of personal attack on your sweet timid PuffPuff.
I own two pit bulls. They are sweet, kind, and only want to please. I can't imagine my life without them.
However, either one could easily maim or kill pretty much whatever it wanted to. It's MY job to make sure they (and anyone/anything who interacts with them) are never in a position that would allow this to happen. It's MY job to ensure I have 100% control 100% of the time. If you can't handle the immense responsibility this breed requires, you shouldn't be allowed to have one.
You have to be licensed to drive a car because you could kill someone if you didn't know how the car operated and if you didn't remain aware constantly while driving. The same is true of pits, or any large breed capable of doing serious damage, and while I don't agree with all-out bans on the breed, a licensing requirement could be beneficial. Especially for the poor dogs who end up with these clueless owners and inevitably become another statistic.
Pit bulls are coveted and owned by trash. People who don't read, or know how to read, who contribute very little, if anything to society or those around them.
They're perfect matches of course, but these poor animals have been ruined by the ghetto thugs and white trash who've made the breed violent and one not to be trusted. They should be banned and slowly exterminated because they're too far gone.
Agree with R77 .... my 25 year old nephew got a pit bull about a year ago. The worst it seems that Nina will do is lick you to death. BUT, that doesn't mean that's probably the worst she COULD do. (it's best to be cautious around ALL dogs ...even a teacup poodle can bite you ...)
They've got her really well trained and reprimand her if she gets too out of line with her barking, etc.
It's really a combination of nature and nuture I think and too many pit bull owners like to develop that 'killer instinct' .... but they are trainable.
R59, you don't call the cops, you call animal control and report the dog. It is THEIR job to initially investigate incidents such as that then if necessary they will refer the case to law enforcement.
Hey Mermaid- Isn't that cute that Petey was such a sweet dog around all those kids all day. Not like the pet Pit that completely tore out the eye of a two year old toddler. I'm an RN in a pediatric ER. Mama just couldn't imagine why this happened. Nor could she imagine why the same dog bit the same toddler earlier that year on the arm. I have taken care of many a dog bite victim and the most vicious bites are from Pits.
[quote]even a teacup poodle can bite you....
When's the last time you heard of a "teacup poodle" killing or seriously maiming anyone? Oh and you must mean a chihuahua. Poodles don't come in "teacup" size.
Bitch please ...Google teacup poodle.
All I meant is that ALL dogs can bite suddenly.
That dog's a menace to the community. I'm taking him to the Sheriff to make sure he's destroyed.
Bull terriers have even a stronger bite than the pit. Someone I knew who led the most incredible life had a bully. This guy was a little sick. He was in a bar in his drinking days and another guy with a great dane was mouthing off about how tough his dog was. The guy kind of challenged him on that and he had his dog attack the dane. The bully went for the dane's throat crushing its airway almost instantly.
[quote]All I meant is that ALL dogs can bite suddenly.
According to the CDC study analyzing human deaths due to dog attacks over a 20-year period), Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were responsible for more than 50% of dog attack fatalities.
[quote]The only reason anyone gets a pit bull is because they know people are intimidated by this breed
There was a couple in San Francisco, Greg and Darla Napora, who owned two pit bulls and were very active in a group whose agenda was to uphold put bulls' reputation as sweet, loving dogs. This was in 2011. One day, Greg came home from work to find that the male pit bull had savagely attacked and killed his wife, who by the way was pregnant. The first responders were shocked at what this dog had done to this woman. And the husband told them he had secured the animal in a back room, so of course it immediately came rampaging out to do some more killing.(They shot it before it could do any harm.) And to top it all off, the husband doesn't blame the pit bull for killing his wife and unborn child. (The fetus was six months along, more than halfway to term.)We have seen this kind of thing over and over--the animals are just plain vicious and the owners are just as bad, enablers of vicious, homicidal behavior.
Jeebus there's some pit bull troll on this thread.
We get it troll, you don't like pit bulls and they're a dangerous breed.
I don't own any pets at all, let alone a pit bull. And that would not be my breed of choice if I did get one. Happy now ??
The good thing R89 is that I am psychic and happen to know that by the end of the year R88 will take his life. We can all be relieved to be rid of him.
A dog should eat your cat who is allowed toroam freely there should be the same leash law for all pets.
OP, you sound like you live in Dogpatch. Get a gun and shoot it if it comes near you.
Sorry but the dog door is too stupid and reckless for words.
I love how people are responding to a thread OP created almost 2.5 years ago. Why, the pitbull could've mauled all of OP's pets and OP by now. Should've called animal control when ya had the chance!
I want an update.
And I wish all dog owners were like R77.
[quote]It's really a combination of nature and nuture I think
You should definitely spay or nuture your pets.
Thanks, R95. I work hard every day to make sure that my dogs are the best ambassadors possible for their breed, and they've changed quite a few minds already.
I trust my dogs with my life, but I don't expect anyone else to and I would certainly never allow a scenario to unfold where they would have to.
I've been skill training and behaviour training dogs for almost two decades now, and the one thing that remains a constant is owners who are in over their heads. That's not fair to the owner, the dog, or the unsuspecting people just walking down the street. Oh, you didn't think your 100lb pitty needed to be fenced/secured in your yard because they've never gone after anything before? You think it's fine to let your dog run loose at a dog park, even though it terrorizes your cat at home? You think it's no biggie to plunk an infant down on the floor with your dog and go chat with your friend in the kitchen? You're an IDIOT, and shouldn't own a dog bigger than a chihuahua.
Successful Pit Bull ownership comes down to one simple thing: common sense. Unfortunately, it's rare.
OP, if I were you, I'd check your local laws. Many jurisdictions ban pit bulls, and for good reason. They're unpredictable and dangerous. And fugly.
Why do people love dogs so much?
I like animals but I don't get this recent obsession with dogs in this country. It's embarrassing. And it's usually white people.
Look, I don't want any animal to suffer or be abused. But what's with the relegation of dogs to being family members? It's a pet, not your baby!
The pet industry is a huge money maker and pushes the notion of your pet being like a child. Most people pay more in vet bills than to their own doctor.
It's fucking weird, and it looks like many people simply can't relate well or get along with other human beings. And take a gander at some of the people who work at these rescue places--they're some of the rudest and unpleasant people around. They hate other people so they devote their lives to dogs and cats. And they never realize how pathetic they look to other people.
Instead of giving all of their love to a cat or dog why don't people work on expressing themselves better to their own species.
And fuck all, there are so many starving and abused children who need help.
I own a pit bull she is the most sweetest dog u can ever own so don't be talking crap bout pit bulls cuz I can make circles around all u asses I'm tired of this crap people saying pit bulls r bad dogs cuz I have had them all my life and not a single problem so buzz off with this crap
I know this isn't a popular opinion on DL but when I was faced with a similar situation OP, I purchased a .38 handgun.
I don't understand pet ownership. dogs and cats are born to be top of the food chain predators, and in the dog's case, as part of a pack.
small fish in a big clean well planted aquarium is as close as I could get to keeping pets.
San Francisco has more dogs than children, and if you ever shop at Rainbow Groceries, go out back by the little parking lot and behold the juxtaposition of homeless people pushing their shopping carts past the luxurious Wag Hotel for Dogs and Cats.
'animal lovers', how about diverting all the resources it takes to keep animals in captivity and direct it to habitat restoration?
you could start with your yard or nearby abandoned/unused land. grow plants native to your area and make some food and shelter for insects and birds
pit bull good. its the way u raise them. I got two pit bulls. they are really great with kids pets and people. I tell u like I tell everyone else its the way people raise and treat them. nobody should be shooting at any kind of dogs at all. there is other dogs out there that will go after people for no damn reason. my next door got a dog that bite someone matter of fact she got two dogs that already bite someone and they are not pit bulls at all. so everyone needs to stop talking all this crap about pit bulls.
I have met a three year old who was attacked by her family pit bull and now her face show the signs of the nice pit bulls you all speak of. Her beautiful face had a gash from his big mouth. Then another tot was mauled in my hometown and didn't survive. I witnessed a boy walking with his pit bull as another pit ran up and attacked him. He locked up his bite and the other pit could not get loose. The same dog that was responsible for this attack chased a horse and attacked him tearing a patch in his stomach. A relative has a pit bull and killed her poodle. But please continue with your stupid remarks about statistics. Continue about how wonderful they are. These are real occurrences that I know of this is not something I read. If you have a pit bull keep his ass fenced up. This is the OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
lol fuck you for judging the breed. pit bulls are one of the best breed!!!
I find it quite irritating that people compare the temperament of pit bulls to dogs like beagles. I don't know about you but if I had to be attacked by a dog, I'd go to the one that could take a bit of skin off of my shin over the one that could tear my frigging throat out due to its incredible jaw strength! Why is that so hard for some people to understand?
No, not all pit bulls are vicious but I agree with a lot of posters who point out that many owners are brain-dead, pin-dicked losers who buy those dogs SPECIFICALLY for that reputation and mistreat them to ensure they will be aggressive.
Any dog can be aggressive and unpredictable but not all dogs are capable of killing people when they do behave that way. THAT is the issue so many of us have with pitbulls.
A beagle could have a Cujo-temperament, and it's still not going to do much damage to anyone. Physiology is in play here.
Fuck all of you Pit Bull enabling bastards. If I had been in the guy from r104's article, I would have shot the thing too.
My best friend's pit bull attacked and killed two other dogs.
OP, the pet door is a convenience, and it has to go. From a practical point of view, you say you live in a rural-ish area. Although, to be honest it could happen in a suburban area too, but all kinds of vermin, like skunks and possums, moles, squirrels, rabbits, chipmunks and rats can get into the house.
How would you feel to wake up to a raccoon gnawing on your face or, more likely, one of your pets? Raccoons are vicious and they can and will try to get into your house as Fall approaches.
I agree that pitbulls are unstable, unpredictable, and dangerous. I live in a very urban area, and here the biggest problem we have with them is that they're usually bred for fighting (yes it's illegal) and they are not well kept.
You don't want to poison this dog. You do need to go on the record with the police. And anyone who lets German Shepherds runaround the neighborhood at will, is not a good pet owner I don't care if he is the chief of the state police.
You may need to electrify an area a foot or so from the fence. Something that will shock any creature who goes near it. or at least the area immediately surrounding your house. Let animal control know, and document everything, including taking photos or movies of the problem fog. Get rid of your pet door.
I agree that pit bulls are capable of doing bad stuff, but the ones I've personally been around have been sweet enough--but I'm always a little wary. Every Rottweiler I've known has been a big, sweet baby. But like a pit, I wouldn't just go up to one I didn't know, because you never know if they've been trained by some asshole.
I know it's a personal bias, but I'm more scared of Chows. I've had several scary experiences with that breed. Just recently, my aunt was dog sitting her daughter's Chow--who has known my aunt since he was a puppy--and he attacked her because she moved his water bowl.
I'd rather have a good ol' mutt from the pound than a purebred any day!
Now listen, you guys. I am so tired of the misconceptions and bigotry against pit bulls. I have one, and my Muffy is the sweetest doggie you could ever hope to meet. Just about the...Muffy! Down, Muffy! OMG no! Somebody help me! Stop, Mu...aaaaarrrrrrgggghhh....
It's Wally not responsible to let your pets come and go unleashed through a pet door just because they are small.
I have a pet door into my fenced yard and no dog or critter has ever gotten in. The fence is the problem and you need to check it out more closely.
On another note, dogs are pack animals. That poor dog may just be lonely. That's why he came into your yard, to be where the pack is. That said, you obviously don't want this responsibility so I think you may need to contact animal control. Your neighbors are likely violating local laws.
R102, I'm sorry you feel that way. You are probably messed up and had a bad childhood. One guy I knew who felt this way committed suicide a few years ago.
OP, you scenario is the script for half the cases on JUDGE JUDY. It will not end well unless you act. Dogs should not be toed up outside. The owners must be in control whenever the dog is outside. if not, call the police or the local animal care authority. be on the record, be vocal, and be vigilant.
There's too much fucking dog worship in this country.
It's weird. I see dog hotels, dog masseuses, dog psychologists--I don't get it. This fixation on dogs is unhealthy and reflects unhealthy minds.
They are not your children, fuckers. they will eat you if you die alone with them and they get hungry.
They eat shit!
I was just walking to the store this morning and saw 6 or 7 pitbulls. All their owners were hungover looking hipsters reaking of stale Jim Beam, BO and cigarettes. Pitbulls are becoming as ubiquitous with hipsters as Pabst. These people have no health insurance or real jobs, but magically they think they are good enough pet owners to take in a dog that has the potential to kill.
I instantly judge pitbull owners as selfish, stupid and mentally ill people. The only people that own them are white trash, thugs and stinky ass hipsters.
[quote][R102], I'm sorry you feel that way. You are probably messed up and had a bad childhood. One guy I knew who felt this way committed suicide a few years ago.
Hint, hint, lol.
I've been around dogs my entire life, between family, friends, neighbours, dog-parks, and volunteering at vets' offices, rescue organizations, and the local Humane Society. I've probably encountered a thousand different dogs in my lifetime, and petted most of them!
I've only been bitten twice. The first was when I was age 10, by daschund who viciously nipped my heels as I entered the house of a new neighbour. The second (when I was 12) was a schnauzer who forcibly objected to me taking a closer peek at her cute face while she munched a dog biscuit. I ended that encounter with 4 small but deep holes in my nose and lips, and still have the scars.
I've never been bitten by any of the hundreds of other dogs I've had close, sustained contact with; not the abused husky-wolf crosses, the feral German shepherds, the starved and neglected Rotties, or even the severely beaten Chows or Akitas or pitties... I've ONLY been bitten by spoiled lapdogs who weren't properly trained.
What does THAT tell you about nature vs nurture?
R117 - I totally agree. I judge all pitbull owners - they want an intimidating dog and have a fucking chip on their shoulder. They're a menace.
There are PLENTY of other large dogs - german sheperds, alaskan malamutes, etc. that are perfectly fine if you want a large dog. But no - they have to get a pitbull - like it matches their poseur skull tattoo.
If the stat mentioned above is true - that 2/3 of all dog bites and deaths are caused by pitbulls and rottweilers, then fuck those dogs.
I'm confused by R117.
I thought hipsters were kinda cool, and NOT trashy thug criminals like the assholes you're describing.
So, one of us is mistaken about hipsters: is it you, or me?
Pit bull owners remind me of the type of women who who are attracted to handsome killers like Ted Bundy. Their egos are such that they are positive that if THEY could just get their hands on what appears to be a violent psycho, but is really only a sad, misunderstood, and very good-looking young man, he would reform himself just for THEM. And maybe he would, for the time it took for his psychosis to reemerge and make him turn on them like they were nothing.
It's racist to hate pit bulls.
I was crossing the street and a woman with a pit bull on a lead was a couple of yards away. Mad bitch started yelling at me that pit bulls were gentle and that it was cunts like me crossing the road to get away from them that upset them and made them vicious. I hadn't even looked in her direction.
Didn't occur to crazy bitch lady that maybe I was crossing the road to, you know, cross the road. I needed to be on the other side.
Because yelling at the top of your voice at complete strangers in the street doesn't make you look insane at all, no sirree.
While people like that are allowed to have pets we're all in danger.
I have a senior citizen who walks two dogs every day. One is a German Shepherd and the other is a pit bull. Quite a large one. The old guy strains to hang on to the leashes and you know just watching him, that one day, very soon, those dogs are going to knock his ass down and run for it. I try to not ever be out jogging when he is out there.
Oy, with the Pitbull, and Bully Breed apologists! Shut the FUCK UP!
My sweet gentle greyhound has been attacked three times in his life, one English Bull Dog, and TWO Pitbulls! Completely unprovoked, while my dog was leashed! Assholes don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
"It's racist to hate pit bulls."
Reverse racism against all the tubby middle-aged white women who run pit rescues? Thank god someone is taking a stand here! Now if only you would extend your extremely brave stance and go after the takeover by the Double-O Negros (Oprah & Obama) maybe we can finally get our country back!
Why did this thread die? I'm guessing everyone was killed by a pit bull.
OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS
I think there are some people who are smart and capable regarding raising and rehabilitating pitbulls, and they can be sweet, loyal dogs who never cause any problems.
That said, I have a friend who is thinking about getting a rescue pit, and I think it's a huge mistake. She's 'tested' a couple by having them at her house a few days (I didn't know shelters even let you do that) and she's leaning towards one. She is a sweet gal, but she is not right for a pit owner. Very neurotic and OCD, and a bit of a drunk. I tried to tell her she needs a calm, low key, older dog that doesn't shed or need a lot of attention. I can see her flipping out because the pit tracked some dirt in the house (she's one of THOSE people who make you take your shoes off inside)and scaring the dog--who will probably retaliate by ripping her face off.
I wouldn't live in a neighborhood with people who'd own such awful animals.
I've said this on other pit threads before, but...
Both of my dogs are rescue pits I got from people who were in way over their heads. My dogs are sweet and kind, and I trust them fully.
However, I am perfectly aware of how much damage either one of them could do, and I would never expect (or force) anyone to interact with my dogs simply because I say they're friendly. I would also never put my dogs or other people in a situation that I didn't have full control over. Owning a pit bull means 100% control 100% of the time. If you can't manage that, you shouldn't own one. I work hard every day to ensure my pups are beacons of their breed.
That being said, while I understand why some people are dead set against them, I do think it's unfair to paint with such a broad stroke.