I just did. I was restless all night and had a hard time falling asleep. They hook all of these wires to you to monitor brainwaves, heart rate, breathing, etc. \
I have a follow up to go over the results in a few days, but I''m concerned that I will have to do it again because I had so much trouble falling asleep. \
The technician won''t tell you anything, but I did ask if I fell asleep at all and he did tell me that I fell asleep at some point last night, but I don''t remember any of it. \
I know they have to monitor everything, but with all that shit hooked up to you, it does very little to create a normal sleeping environment. \
If you''ve had one, what was your experience?
I had a similar experience to yours OP, but when I met with my doc later to go over the results of the study I was shocked at how much I actually slept. Didn''t seem like I''d hardly slept at all but it turned out I''d slept more than enough for them to get the readings they needed.
If you don''t mind me asking, what were your results R1? They said if it was bad during the night, that they would wake me up and put a CPAP on me, but they didn''t have to do that. I don''t know if that''s a good sign or not.
I had exactly the same experience. Dr. left me a VM I had no sign of apnea and I just let it drop. Even if I did sleep, there was nothing "usual" about my sleep pattern that night. I felt the whole thing was a waste of time (and the insurance co''s money).
I don''t remember the results, but I have been on a CPAP machine for 10 years...I don''t think it makes a difference, but by other half swears that it does. If I don''t use it, he ends up at the other end of the house... and can still hear me.\
I do have severe sleep apnea..\
Insurance replaced the machine once. They cost about 750.00 but I only paid a co-pay.
Hey R2, I had moderate to severe apnea. When I was asleep on my side I had 60 apnea events per hour and when I was on my back I had 90 apnea events per hour.\
I was fitted with a CPAP machine and while the first 2 nights were AWFUL the third night I slept just fine and woke up a new man. \
About a month after that the insurance company contacted me and sent my "rental" period was over. Did I want to purchase the machine or return it. I was like "You''ll rip this machine from my cold dead fingers!" My insurance paid for 80%. I don''t always LIKE the machine...some nights I really fight it, but without it I''m miserable. If I fall asleep on the couch or something I wake up feeling like I was on a bender. Without it my partner sleeps in another room. So I''ve come to love my machine!
My doctor required the sleep study - to see, because of loud snoring. When I met with the sleep specialist, he seems to think that I may not have apnea, but it might just be my genetic make up. \
Apparently if you have apnea the CPAP will take care of the loud snoring. If you don''t have apnea and are a loud snorer, your otolaryngologist can start cutting shit in your mouth to make the snoring stop. This scares the shit out of me.
[quote].I don''t think it makes a difference, but by other half swears that it does.\
Do you have a code? Let me get you a tissue.
It''s a weird experience to have fallen asleep but think that you never fell asleep. This usually happens when your mind keeps running, you slept light, and your dream tends to be about not being able to sleep and your anxiety.
I had 8 minutes of rem sleep the whole night. And that was with taking an ambien.\
Dx: severe sleep disorder...forget all the little details ,but a lot of restless stuff with a small am''t of apnea.\
Been using a cpap for years. It helps immensely
Most people aren''t aware that if you close your eyes, breathe somewhat shallowly and do not move any muscles, your body thinks it is asleep and recharges as such. The brain is a bit smarter than that, but you can technically get a "good night''s sleep" without actually sleeping, though your brain may tell you you are groggy/out of it the next day (though you really aren''t, at least physically). Most people are too anxious to actually lie still and clear their heads to do this, though. Yoga helps, especially with the proper breathing and concentration techniques.
I had a study but had the doctor give me something to fall asleep. They woke me up during the night to put the mask on and I fell back to sleep. I now have a machine. Everytime they change the mask they seem to make it worse
I had to wear a thing on my arm. To my surprise they said I slept 4.5 hours a night with 90 movements. Not good. So I worked at sleeping more and exercising. A year later I took it again. I was expecting at least an hour more with less movement, since I kept track at home. The machine they put on me said... 4.5 hours a night and more than a hundred movements per night. I''m not sure we can easily control our sleep pattern. Geez!
What kind of movements R12? Were you having night terrors?
There sure were a lot of fat patients there. I was the only one in the pod with night terror issues.
I did the sleep study. I thought I had sleep apena but instead I have Upper Airway Resistance Syndrome which means I wake up a lot while I sleep even though I am not aware of it. I cycle between REM and awake. Apena is when you stop breathing. My sleep is still not very restful. I wake up tired and sometimes I do wake up in the middle of the night and it's hard to get back to sleep.
The study itself was horrible. The bed was rock hard and there was a night light on because I was being watched on camera. I need total darkness to sleep. They put this goo on the electrodes that it very hard to get out of your hair. I thought I did not sleep but I did. At one point I was so frustrated at not being able to fall asleep that I ended up turning on the full lights and reading a book for an hour because laying there on the hard bed was very maddening.
You would think a sleep study would make the extra effort to provide a comfortable bed, sheets, pillows etc. so you can actually fall asleep. I wrote all those comments down on a form I had to fill out afterwards.
I almost did about five years ago when they were fashionable. But before I got one, I found their popularity had peaked and most people had moved on to testing for gluten allergies and autism. \
You guys are behind the times. But here''s a tip - what''s old is new and anxiety attacks are on their way back in. You heard it hear first.
I kind of agree R15. I understand that its basically a lab, but I would recommend trying to make the environment more conducive to sleeping. \
R15, sleep apnea isn''t a fad or a joke.
I have had three sleep studies. Next week I'm having my fourth. This all started because one day, three years ago, a day in March, I felt oddly sleepy. Like I had jet lag. The next day, the same. Next day, the same. It went on for months. I was taking five naps a day. I started falling asleep at stop lights. Falling asleep at my desk. I'd get up, have breakfast, and fall asleep at the kitchen table.
The first study determined that I had "moderate sleep apnea". I'd thought I'd slept very little during the study, as well, but had apparently slept okay. The CPAP company brought me a machine a week later. They said "Just wait! Tomorrow you'll be a new man!" I used it that night and I was the same man. I used it for six months. No difference in my daytime sleepiness. Sleepy all day. Falling asleep five or six times a day. Endless naps. Terrible.
The second study was to determine if the machine was working, was eliminating my apnea, my constant waking up, and if not, find out what setting on the machine, the apnea machine, with the mask, was best. I slept with their machine, their mask, and they determined that with the machine set at "6" all of my sleep apnea disappeared. No more waking up. No more snoring. No more restlessness. Etc.
I went home with a new machine that was set at 6. I used it for six months. No difference. Sleepy all day. Falling asleep at the dinner table. I couldn't get any work done. It was ruining everything.
In the third study I used a computerized apnea machine that changed the intensity of the air as needed. The doctors, reviewing the data, said that it had worked beautifully. I took this machine home. I was to use it for four months and then send the doctor the computer chip from the back of the machine. For those four months there was no change in my sleepiness at all. Still taking many naps. Falling asleep at work. Falling asleep at lunch.
I started to hear about a lot of other people with CDS, Chronic Daytime Sleepiness, or EDS, Extreme.
In the meanwhile, I have been tested for just about everything. Narcolepsy. Epstein Barr. Low testosterone. MS. I have had two MRIs. I have tried various medications. One helped for a while, Provigil, but then stopped being effective.
Next week, I have my fourth sleep study, a nighttime AND daytime study. The whole next day I'm hooked up and in their sleep room. I'm glad. That's smart. They've never checked me when I was actually sleepy in the daytime before.
This has been going on three years now and it's affecting everything. My work. My friendships. I can't date. I'm nervous driving. No one believes me because sometimes I seem fine.
I'm only truly awake for about six hours a day. Otherwise, I sleep for eight at night and then I battle sleep for about ten hours, often giving in. When I try to fight it, go out, go to the gym, I just lie down on a mat at the gym and fall asleep.
I have been contemplating suicide for about a year now. It seems a drastic reaction, but I have very little life left.
Sleep apnea is the gay man''s fibro-myalgia.
I hope you speak to someone about these feelings R18. Good luck at getting help!
No it''s not R19. It''s very real. My partner had it and it used to scare me to death every time he stopped breathing in his sleep.
I''M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SYMBOLISM OF THE LOBSTER
It''s rheumatic fever doll. You need meds.
I did sleep study twice and agree, the environment was so abnormal and uncomfortable that I didn''t have confidence in the results.
The room I had my sleep study in was like a hotel room. There was a bed with sheetsm etc. There was a desk, TV and a fan.
r12, do you know what the arm device was called?
r18, hope things have gotten better for you.
R25, did the room have pay-per-view?
[quote]Didn't seem like I'd hardly slept at all
Doesn't seem to require comment.
I did have a sleep study. Alas, I don't remember it. I was asleep.
How does this work for insomniacs?
I have to have one, but I'm not sure that I can even afford it or the CPAP now. I'm in my late 30's, tall, and have always been skinny so I'm not sure what is causing it. I've been tired the past few years, but never really thought it would be sleep apnea, but a relative woke me up in the middle of the night recently when they heard me gasping for air. My brain has definitely been off the past 6 months with me making a lot of errors while typing. Has anyone who has gone on CPAP noticed that it cleared up any memory or brain function problems?
My HMO doesn't use sleep centers. They give you a device with electrodes and straps that you attach your body at home in your own bed. Then you take it back the next day so they can analyze the readings from the machine.
That brain function problem includes resurrecting year-old threads to announce you snore, you sad apneatic thing you?
It is NOT the gay man's fibro. Jesus, it seems like some of you live to try to make people feel bad about themselves and their lives. I had a sleep study a number of years ago, and it turned out I "woke up" about 150 times in the course of the night. I found the equipment made me tense and self-conscious, and I also did not take any of bedtime meds (Xanax and Lexapro--it wasn't clear to me whether I should or not, and I decided to see what the sleep would have been without them, which may have gummed up the results either way). I was prescribed a CPAP, which I never was able to wear successfully all night, though I did find it calmed me down initially, but by morning I had removed it unconsciously.
I was morbidly obese at the time, as well as diabetic, so those were clearly co-factors. I then had bariatric gastric by-pass surgery a few years later and dropped around 90 lbs (I've kept 75 of it off) and my need for the CPAP disappeared. So what if sleep apnea is often a function of overweight--it doesn't make the condition any less real. And I've known a number of very slender people who also have it. The point is to work to find a way to control or eliminate it--in my case, weight loss through surgery (for which I make no apologies--anyone who has had the surgery knows that keeping off the initial large weight loss becomes as much work as pre-surgical dieting was, as hunger returns and there is almost always some stretching of the pouch). The point is to stay alive and find some ways to a healthy state of being.
Yes, my writing sounds fat (will beat you to the snark), and I am still never going to be a poster child for Abercrombie and Fitch, but I feel healthier and that makes me feel better and better about myself. So, OP--do whatever it takes to get to a place where you have restful, healthy sleep, and ignore the naysayers.
So you're such a loser you can't even sleep?
Even babies sleep.
I will guess your an elder gay and your obese...
Yep that's usually the cause, 100% of the time.
[quote]I will guess your an elder gay
Yes I bed was so uncomfortable and they left a light on so I couldn't sleep. At one point I got up, turned on the light and started reading the book I brought. They were kind of surprised at that. I did fall asleep a some point. I had URAS upper airway respiratory syndrome it's not sleep apnea but means I snore and wake myself up periodically even if I'm not aware of it so I'm tired when I wake up and not rested. The study was a joke I was so tired and exhausted after. I have them a lot of feedback in the form they had me fill out. Also that goo they use to attach the electrodes got caught in my hair. I know I looked a mess coming out of there at 6am.
I had a sleep study (at home) on Wednesday night. Yesterday morning it was confirmed that I have sleep apnea (30 apnea events per hour). I'm so embarrassed.
Last night was the first night with the CPAP machine and after 5 hours of sleep I took it off. But I still feel better than I used to and R1/5 gives me hope.
[quote] I know I looked a mess coming out of there at 6am.
Right, like it was the first time THAT ever happened to you.
What time do you have to show up at night and do they wake you up at 6 am and tell you it's over?
Sometimes a person's oxygen levels dip dangerously low.
It's not always about being overweight, although certainly weight can be a factor.
8:30 - 5:30 or similar.
Considering I've had insomnia for at least 15 years I never expected to be able to sleep with all the paraphernalia attached to my body but to my amazement I did! They don't need you to be asleep very long either. When they had enough sleep time recorded they woke me up (about 4:00) and told me to go home.
I took my own pillows because I'm very particular about those.
This is a very illuminating thread. Kudos to all the respondents (well except the couple of typical nasty morons).
One question: Once diagnosed as needing a CPAP, is that pretty much your new life? Or, with some weight loss and a year or two of better nights' sleep, do people find they can stop CPAPing?
I'm seeing my dr next week for a referral for a sleep study. I have to sleep in a different room now from my husband because of my snoring. My sister, my mother and my uncle are all on CPAP. They have very small masks now. My mother had heart failure and CPAP has been found to slow the progression.
But my mother now constantly has a runny nose and sneezes all day long. She is one of those ultra-fussy people ("I can't go outside, it's too hot. It's too cold. I hate the sun. I hate the beach, I don't like sand. I don't want any plants or bushes because I will not go outside to water them and they attract spiders, yak, yak, yak.")
I kind of wonder if it's just her, you know? She tells me every time I talk to her how awful it is that she sneezes, blah, blah. I'm like, "I know. You've told me 400 billion times. You don't have to tell me anymore. I got the point."
I hope I don't have a problem like that if I need CPAP.
I have used a CPAP for over 3 years, and it makes a world of difference. My understanding, though, is that there's a high rejection rate. Make sure the mask fits correctly -- that can be a real problem. Give it a little time to get used to it. It's nice to be able to have REM sleep again.
[quote]One question: Once diagnosed as needing a CPAP, is that pretty much your new life? Or, with some weight loss and a year or two of better nights' sleep, do people find they can stop CPAPing?
I think it might depend on your own anatomy and how old you are. I've known young people who lost weight and were able to eliminate their CPAP. I believe you can not count on it though. But don't let that discourage you either. You might be one of the ones who can reverse it.
As far as the sneezing and runny nose goes, you need to wash everything including the filters frequently.
I'm skinny so I don't think losing weight will help!
I just got a call that the doctor ordered a 2 night home sleep study, which I'm kind of disappointed might not be as reliable as a lab study.
My partner said I had apnea, so I signed up for a night at the clinic. They were very nice, but I had a wet dream during the night and woke up with the aftermath, and I was so embarrassed I couldn't sleep after that. One tech said, "Well, that's one for the record," which I thought was insensitive.
I never went back or returned calls. About six months later I went to another place and it turned out I had some sinus issues.
I just had one this past week, and I was also concerned about being able to sleep. I typically sleep on my side or stomach, but with all the wires I had hooked in me I did manage to sleep on my back. Suprisingly, I fell asleep pretty quickly as I was tired, but the room was like something out of Motel 6. Two hours into my sleep they came in and put me on the mask. I had stopped breathing, but he did not tell me the number of times. I see a CPAP in my future. I am also seeing a bariatric surgeon on Monday and hope to get started with that. I am tired of being obese with health problems, and I have NO willpower.
I had a home study -- they are pretty worthless.
Later had a lab study.
I lovey CPAP and can't live without it. In addition to the mental benefits, it improves blood pressure as well. When your body is trying to suck in air against an obstruction, the heart has to work against that pressure.
Losing weight may or may not be a factor, depending on the type of apnea you have (central or obstructive).
I have found that cpap-supply.com has great prices and excellent service. (Not a shill, just a satisfied customer.)
Do you need to keep buying products?
I just noticed this thread is over 2 years old.
r50 -- favorite mask?
what happened to r18?
I know! It's been 2.5 years!
r18, if you are still posting on DL, chime in!
I had my home sleep study last night. I hardly got any sleep so I'm not sure how accurate it is going to be. I put some headband thing with something covering my forehead with 3 sensors, plus 2 things up each nostril. I have to do it again tonight and then drop it off to have them examine the readings.
It's pretty typical that you'll likely have to go in and do the overnight-stay sleep study after the home study. But it's not that bad. So hang in there.
I had a study in 2008 and the findings were mild to moderate sleep apnea. It was suggested that I see a dentist to have an appliance made (like a pair of false teeth worn over my teeth). Just couldn't tolerate it in my mouth and I was afraid I was going to swallow it.
Fast forward to August 2012 when I had another study at the urging of a pulmonologist and the findings were I don't have sleep apnea at all!
However, since I breathe through my nose and have a deviated septum to boot, I find I'm waking up feeling oxygen deprived in my brain and heart. I'm sweating profusely too. For a month now, I've been using one of those backpacks with the three "humps" so that you can't roll over on your back, but I still find myself managing to get on my back and I wake up in that position with a sore back and neck.
Last week, I had to monitor my oxygen intake for two nights and I'll get the results when I see my sleep doc/neurologist next week. He's reluctant to prescribe Provent since "the data reveal you don't have sleep apnea". But, he goes on to say that you can die in the early AM from a heart attack or stroke due to a limited intake of oxygen.
Scary stuff, indeed.
Sounds like you should be on a night-time aspirin regimen R59.
I seriously wanna know what happened to r18.
I got my results from the home study and it showed that I hardly have any apnea. The doctor said I might have narcolepsy and that he'd like to do a day and nighttime study in the lab, but that my insurance probably won't cover it. I'm in my late 30's and thin so he said it's not like he can prescribe that I lose weight. I'm frustrated since I know that I've been tired in the afternoons for a few years and sometimes HAVE to sleep at 4:00 pm because my head is so tired. I also had someone wake me up in the middle of the night saying that I was gasping for breath so there is some evidence.
You should DEFINITELY do the lab night study, as the takehomes are not as reliable.
I have to agree with R19
r62 here. I had the in lab study and the doctor said in 20 years he's never seen anyone sleep better. So, now I have no clue why I'm tired in the afternoon.
I first had an at-home sleep study about three years ago. They diagnosed me, gave me the mask and the CPAP machine, and I tried it for about a week. I gave up because I could not fall asleep. At that time I was working and I couldn't risk being sleepless for so long.
Fast forward to last year. I was retired and thought it might be a good time to give the CPAP another try. Went back to the sleep center. Instead of a full study, they just gave me a loaner CPAP machine that could analyze what I needed. Went back the next day, got a new mask, attached it to the machine, and have been using it successfully ever since. (Every night since last fall.)
Now I never fall asleep during the daytime (or while watching TV in the evening), nor do I ever have to get up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. As the sleep specialist explained it to me, because when you're on the CPAP you aren't constantly waking up, you don't realize that you need to urinate.
Anyway, it's been a life saver for me. (Probably literally, as pre-CPAP I fell asleep while driving more than once!)
I'm surprised that people are still doing these. They seemed all the rage a few years ago, but now I never hear anyone talking about them.
It's not a fad, it's a real medical problem but a lot of people don't like to talk about such things. However, I know many people with CPAPs.
Right before retiring, I took 3 Ambien and slept like a baby.
R68, I'm so embarrassed that I have sleep apnoe and need to use a cpap machine. I don't tell anyone about it. My mother, gf and 2 or 3 other people know it but no one else.
And as I'm not grossly overweight (about 20 lbs overweight) no one suspects I might suffer from this condition.
But I'm really glad I have the machine, my life is definitely better now I'm not always tired beyond belief. Sometimes it's a bit a pain in the ass when I sleep over at my gf and have to organise bringing my machine (I,can't take it to work or to parties so I have to male a detour home before going to hr place) but I'm a different person for it
How old are you r71, if you don;t mind telling?
I'll be 30 next year, R72. And female.
How did you catch the fact that you needed a CPAP so young? Snoring complaints?
Fatigue during the day?
I just started using a cpap machine. Worked okay the first night. Then I couldn't use it the second and third night because it felt as though I was choking after I had it on for a couple of minutes. I only slept for three hours last night.
I guess I should take the machine to my doctor to get it callibrated. The company that sold me the machine set it up for me but the guy did it in about 5 minutes and I don't think he set it up properly for me.
R75 Make sure your mask (assuming you're using a mask and not just the nasal buds) is fitting correctly. One night I was getting constant air flow and it was really noisy. Turned out the silicone liner of the mask had come loose. When there's not enough resistance to the air flow, the machine keeps pumping out more air, and with more force.
My gf realized I stopped breathing while sleeping.
Sge lives in a 1-room apartment and at that time was studying for her finals. She got up at 6 to learn while I was sleeping (I have a deep sleep so it didn't bother me) and noticed my breathing stopped for at least 10 seconds. Thankfully she watched a programme about sleep apnoe a couple of months previously.
Why do you keep writing "apnoe" instead of "apnea?"
The British spell it "apnoea", but I don't know anyone who spells it "apnoe".
Because English isn't my first language and I just assumed it was written this way without checking. I'm sorry for the mistake.
No need to apologize/ this is the DL. Snarky comments about spelling are par for the course.
My experience was the same as yours and seems common comparing stories with friends and coworkers.
I think they are a bit of a racket. I did it only after severals trips sharing hotel rooms with friends who said my breathing patens while asleep were alarming and I sounded like I was gasping for air. I was diagnosed with mild sleep apnea. I was given instructions for better sleep routine and to buy some torturous appearing shirt to prevent me from sleeping on my back.
I think my sleep clock has also just shortened down over the years.I now seldom sleep more than 5-6 hours tops.
I don't believe your story supports your racket theory. Your friends alerted you. You must have contacted a doctor or specialist and then it's their duty to check it out. It's not as if they prescribed an unnecessary costly machine.
Stopping breathing through the night and losing oxygen each time is no joke.
For those of you who have had the test and don't have SA, is there anything they can do to help you sleep? Or, are they only concerned with whether you have sleep apnea?
Yesterday, I did a 9 mile hike with 3,500 ft of elevation gain. I ate a healthy dinner, had 6 oz of red wine, then went to bed around 10pm. I tossed and turned, then finally fell asleep. I did not have a restful sleep and I got up around 5:30am feeling tired. This is pretty typical for me.
I can usually fall asleep and sleep well, but I after a few hours I wake up and toss and turn.
r86, you need to have the sleep test.
But, r87, if I don't have sleep apnea, is there anything they can do for me?
I went to a tinnitus clinic over a decade ago. I paid $700 out of pocket. They did some tests then told me I didn't have tinnitus (I found out later it was Meniere's causing my problem)). The entire time I was at the tinnitus clinic was about 1.5 hours.
I have spent a ton of money and time chasing down a solution for my Meniere's. After a decade I realized they were just putting me through test after test to generate income.
I'm a bit gun shy now of going in for another nebulous problem, but I really want to sleep better.
If you were able to sleep, would you really need a sleep study?
Anyone who lives with you can tell you if you snore...what is the point to a sleep study?
What the hell is wrong with R18...it sounds really scary.
There is snoring r89 and then there is snoring. Some snoring can be cleared up with a breathe rite strip and maybe a little weight lost or in some cases a nose job or sleeping on your side.
There are other types of snoring where you actually stop breathing. That is what the sleep study is for. To find out what's really going on.
I use a CPAP. I have chronic sinusitis and a really small opening. Ever since the CPAP, sleep has been wonderful and I don't keep the entire house up any longer.
The doctor told me that I probably just need to go to bed earlier and also take green coffee pills during the day for energy.
R92 You need to start seeing a legitimate doctor and not some quack.