Why, on average, are cats associated with feminine and dogs with masculine?
With the exception of purse dogs and poodles, this seems to be true, and I always wondered why. \
Cats are quiet, stealthy, passive-aggressive, unpredictable, cold, fast, cruel, agile... \
Dogs are loud, in your face, loyal, warm/affectionate, aggressive, playful, fierce, strong, powerful... \
As Michelle Pfeiffer said, because men and women started out on unequal footing, women have had to adapt in a struggle to compensate for their physical weakness, relatively speaking, and they did so just as the cat has in relation to the dog.\
Likewise, we have also had to compensate in relation to straight men, who have always had the upper hand, thus, the reason we gravitate toward cats and the more feminine dog. \
I''m actually a big dog person but I''m more or less indistinguishable, but in general it''s gay men are cat or little dog men.
We are attracted to animals that resemble ourselves.\
Cats are nimble, independent, sensual, mysterious.\
Dogs are promiscuously affectionate, easily dominated, sloppy and their balls are on constant display.
I don''t get the affectionate part because aren''t women more affectionate than men? Although my dad was much warmer than my mom.
I think that there is a perception of the dog as a protector that dates back to antiquity and possible before. Dogs were necessary because of they can hear danger coming far, far away. And protector is generally considered a masculine trait.\
Cats are beautiful and cute, so you do the math.\
I don''t really buy the idea that cats are cold. I have two cats and I''m constantly fighting off the advances of amorous cats. Make friends with a cat and they will all the time be giving you love-eyes and trying to kiss you on the lips.
Miss Sissy Boodles objects to your characterization, bitch.
[quote] I don''t really buy the idea that cats are cold. I have two cats and I''m constantly fighting off the advances of amorous cats. Make friends with a cat and they will all the time be giving you love-eyes and trying to kiss you on the lips.\
That''s been my experience, too.
Silly R3--the cat is just trying to eat you.
Hmmmm? Pussy? Can''t imagine.
Cats are cleaner than dogs
Because dogs stick their noses in your crotch and cats don''t.
Hopefully, PT will soon be over.
Because cats are a bunch of pussies.
OP, you''re fucking nuts, you know that?\
Ask Cesar. Animals are just animals. People are people. When we read "people" characteristics into animal behavior, WE are IDIOTS. Animals do NOT think like humans on any level -- we just like to think they do. Kinda like beliving in God, your imaginary friend, and giving him/her/it/whatever human emotions. \
Get it now?
Not in my condo complex. Biggest assortment of gay dogs....EVER!
What a limited world OP lives in.
So all those seemingly gay animals r12. Are we just anthropomorphizing?
Cats are evil, that''s why.\
Because cats are bitches.
A Female Dog
Actually, lots of straight guys have started coming out of the closet as cat lovers.\
My (straight) brother is an Executive Director at a no-profit dunes conservation group. He''s a fairly macho scientist type. \
Their facility has a herd of cats who hang out there. He loves those cats like they were his own children. \
And yes, he''s hunky, bitches.
FYI in German dogs are called "der Hund" (masculine pronoun), and cats are called "die Katze" (feminine pronoun). \
I''ll bet there are similar masculine-feminine labels in other languages. Am I right?
Your sweeping generalizations are bland, boring, and worse, wrong.
[quote]As Michelle Pfeiffer said,\
My favorite philosopher!
Worst. Thread. Ever.
[quote]fairly macho scientist type\
Those words don''t go together.
Why are cats associated with the feminine? Believe me, I have no idea; but boy is it irritating.
[quote]to adapt in a struggle to compensate for their physical weakness, relatively speaking, and they did so just as the cat has in relation to the dog.\
I don''t know where this idea comes from... in the wild, cats are independent predators and relatively strong.\
The domestic cat is really an oddball as cat species go.
One, women are not all "quiet, stealthy, passive-aggressive, unpredictable, cold, fast, cruel, agile...". That is a sweeping generalization. You're confusing stereotypes with how real people behave.
Two, any actual gender differences in behavior are the result of BOTH cultural and biological phenomena (ex: physical development, a society that allots men more freedom and power than women). Men and women DO NOT behave differently because women are all physically weaker than men.
Cats is for gays and dogs is for normals.
Sorry to bust your theory, I'm as gay as a goose and have two dogs...
Cats are called pussies. Men who own cats are huge Pussies.
Dogs originally followed hunters (men) around. Cats stayed near the food stores that had been harvested/gathered by the women or the kitchen (again, women).
It's just that simple
Hard not to accept that cats are womanly and dogs are manly. A female dog is a bitch. A female cat is a queen.
OP? Are you currently taking your first sociology class at the local community college?
You're an ass.
Most young women want small dogs, not cats. Toy dog breeds have become more culturally feminine than cats are.
We don't hear the words of the wise sage Michelle Pfeiffer nearly often enough.
[quote] We are attracted to animals that resemble ourselves.
Quite the opposite. I think dominants prefer dogs and sexual submissives get to prostate their selves before their pet cats.
oops - prostrate!
There is a huge stigma for a dude to have and like a cat. I personally know of one guy who has a cat and actually let's people know it. There is also a stigma for dudes to have a small dog.
Cats is smart, can have cheezeburgr. Dogs is stupid, like men, cannot open beer can.
I think it is the type of person that is attracted to each animal. You just don't see very masculine dudes with cats. You are not gonna see cats in hip hop videos, action movies, hangin out with football players. Alpha Males are just not gonna be seen with cats as pets.
Well, I have cat, love dogs but don't have space in my life for one. Either could cause you some physical pain if they chose to, though my cat could do more damage than my brother's chihuahua, my sister's German Shepherd could kill you.
I don' think one is more fem or masculine. Dogs cry a lot and cats would never let you know if they did, which is contra to the hypothesis here.
I find that people who had either a dog or cat as a child tend to select the same animal as a pet when they grow up. No major study, just an observation.
[quote] I don' think one is more fem or masculine. Dogs cry a lot and cats would never let you know if they did, which is contra to the hypothesis here.
It's not contrary to my BDSM hypothesis, where tops prefer submissive, whining dogs.
r39 Ernest Hemingway loved cats. He is known for his love of polydactyls. Hemingway is the John Wayne of the literary world.
Some of you have no originality or real life experience so you fall back on stereotypes.
Probably r42. I grew up with no pets as my parents had the mentality that human and animals can not live together. There were quite a few stray cats in our neighborhood and I although they were cute, I didn't care too much for them.
As an adult it took a friend's cat for me to realize how wonderful they are. So at the age of 24, I got a cat and it was the best decision I ever made. People who hate cats have never owned one or grew up with so many misconception about them.
I've always scoffed at people who say that cats are the familiars of Satan & witches -- no understanding of cats, & filled with stupid superstition.
But there's a tom hanging around my house lately who might be able to make me a believer. Steel grey, skinny (not frail, just long & lean), stealthy even by cat standards, & always looks like he's ready to give the evil eye to anybody in his way. His normal tone of voice is a long low moan/growl & I can't believe he was ever a sweet cuddly little kitten -- if he sprang full-grown from the firepits of Hades, I wouldn't be the least surprised.
I hope he's moved on by Halloween.
Well, the in thing for the younger generation is cars, especially with males.
Huh? I know a lot of gay men that have large dogs. You have a lot of assumptions in your argument lol. I can't stand cats and have a red nosed pitbull (mid-sized) so don' really get where you are coming from.
Guys want to be tough and masculine. Having a big dog that intimidates people goes a long way toward that perception. A dude with a house cat does not.
Michelle Pfeiffer doesnt know shit about biology or evolution. That being said, dogs are probably more associated with men because dogs were first domesticated in order to help early humans hunt, a task which was often assigned to men. Cats did not start living with humans until we moved to an agrarian culture once it was noticed they help keep vermin away from stores of grain and food.
"Any dog under 50 pounds is a cat. And cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson
When I was really young, I thought that cats were girls and dogs were boys.
[quote]Well, I have cat, love dogs but don't have space in my life for one. Either could cause you some physical pain if they chose to, though my cat could do more damage than my brother's chihuahua, my sister's German Shepherd could kill you.
I'm actually more relaxed around big dogs than small ones once we've been properly introduced. Maybe it's because big dogs tend to be calmer, or their changing moods are more easily read. If someone is walking a Great Dane or a mastiff-sized dog down the street, it's always fun to pet the dog.
Like you, I have a cat. He's a big, BIG goofball that's never bitten, scratched or even hissed, but a couple of times he's accidentally poked me with a claw while we're playing. That doesn't stop me from picking him up, turning him on his back and rubbing my head on his tummy (he purrs), but a few times it's occurred to me that a cat of his size could rip my face off with no problem at all.
few men are drawn to cats. not a masculine thing.
MOST dogs are laid back, cool, and low maintenance. Cats are often bitchy, aloof, and difficult. That is why dudes like them, and only feminine guys tend to associate with them.
Cats are for chicks
I know a straight guy who loves cats and has two of them.
Cats are for people who want their freedom and dogs are for people who want more consistent connection. A dog will sit on the bed with you while you stroll through DL. A cat may or may not.
I like both. If you work long hours at times then a cat will adjust to that best.
My brother and ex both have cats, they enjoy their clownish personalities.
As I type, both my cats are lying with me as I stroll through DL, R58.
My giant Maine Coon just hopped down and went toward the front hall to lie down. But only because the heat just kicked on, and he HATES artificial heat.
My sister is asleep across from me, her trusty schnoodle right under her nose. Because he is terrified of my cats.
There's nothing masculine or "manly" about disliking cats or avoiding any association with them because of some ridiculous perception of them as "gay" or "feminine".
If anything that exposes that type of guy as insecure,dystonic and unable to think and reason as an individual.
R55, did someone give you The Official Douchebag Handbook, and you believed every word of it?
I've never really understood why some men seem to think dogs are the more masculine pet.
Cats are vastly superior hunters. No dog can match a cats physical capabilities.
Maybe it's because dogs don't threaten anyone's masculinity whereas cats do?
Or maybe it's an ego thing. Dogs need to be a member of a pack with a leader. Cats on the other hand can survive on their own.
I have a close straight friend that is a complete manwhore. Good looking, very muscular, etc and has three cats. First guy I have known who likes both types of pussy.
I think because cats are more slinky, sensual and mysterious, they have been fitted in what society wants the feminine to represent. In reality, however, cats are more masculine because of their independence, stealth, and narrow-minded focus, whereas dogs are more feminine in their natures. It's all about what we project onto these animals to represent our own self-created social identities.
R55 claims that dogs, which have to be walked every few hours, are low maintenance? Give me a well-trained kitty any day. We sit at the window and laugh at dog owners picking up shit in cold, rainy weather.
r59, are you a 15 year old girl?
Let me guess, pink is for girls and blue is for boys?!?!
Did I pass??
r65, is that before or after you scoop up kitty's shit treats from her litterbox?
I don't like cats. I'm a dude.
In the past, I've shared my space with cats. Independent, intelligent, non-invasive, non-intrusive, non-clingy. As in, I don't give a fuck about your day, just feed me and fuck off. I might have time a week from Thurs. to let you pet me and show me obeisance.
My kind of companion.
What R64 said.
When will you people -- gay people, no less! -- stop saying that certain behaviors are masculine or feminine? Our culture has defined that -- it's certainly not written in stone. And for gays to say such a thing -- surely you know better.
Your stereotypes are showing.
By the way, I had a whippet, and he was fiercely independent -- and a better hunter than any cat I've ever had.
Men and women are different. We are not identical biologically, hormonally, psychologically, etc.
Sure, society exaggerates our differences. Soceity devalues feminine characteristics, and overvalues male.
But we are different -- not better or worse than the other, for both sexes contribute to our mutual survival obviously.
Being pack animals, dogs are inherently predisposed towards submitting and obeying. Most men like that.
Being solitary predators in the wild, cats neither submit nor obey. Most men don't like that.
As someone who always thought the same thing I think comedian Jodi Miller makes perfect sense on this issue.
I prefer cats. If I wanted a whingy, whiney, dependent being that's going to be up my ass making demands, I would have partnered or married.
r19 uhm I thought it was die katze or der katz depending on the cat's gender. I mean it's not a sexless object that have been given a grammatical gender like is commonly done in Romance Languages (for instance "the sea" is feminine in French and masculine in Italian - la mer, il mare).
Just like sports are for straights and musicals are for AIDS infested 'mos.
When I was a little child, I thought all cats were female and dogs male.
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