Why do Birds Insist on Chirping Before it is Even Light?
Even when it is still dark out, they begin chirping at the faintest ray of light in the sky.\
I find it very irritating to hear it outside my window this early in the morning. It is only 5:00 am and dark outside, and yet there are birds chirping outside my window.\
Is there anything that can be done to prevent this, or do I have to take some action?
Loading my shotgun
[quote] "Is there anything that can be done to prevent this, or do I have to take some action?"\
Uhm, decrease your doseage?
(or INCREASE, perhaps?)
This is weird, OP. I was thinking about posting this same topic today. Lately, the birds around my house start the tweeting around 3am...so it''s still pitch black in the rural area where I live.\
Is it an omen???
This is double-weird, R2. I usually sleep through the night, but the chirping of the birds woke me up just now, so I got up and went to the bathroom. Decided to check the net before going back to bed and, as I was logging on to the DL I thought, "I wish those birds would shut up. Times like this, I wish I had a shotgun!"\
Then DL popped up on the screen with this topic at the top of the page, mirroring my thoughts exactly.
Because they''re bastard birds!
Wow, this thread is freaky!!! I was just getting annoyed with birds chirping about 25 secs before seeing this. It''s one thing I hate about this time of year. You can''t open the damn windows at night because those fuckers will wake you up.
I have never been a fan of birds.
As a life-long night owl, I just assume that the middle of the night chirpers are my fellow insomniacs.
It''s probably evolution. The males are chirping like fiends right around now because it''s mating season. There has probably been an evolutionary advantage to those who start their chirping the earliest.
The bird outside my window now is effeminate, which makes it even worse.
Get a gun.
Get some earplugs.
What R8 said, plus light pollution in urban and suburban areas confuses the biological clocks of animals.\
Birds singing at night this time of year in North America are probably male mockingbirds advertising their availability and desirability to potential mates. Every spring there are posts on the DataLounge complaining about these critters.\
Try to be patient, OP-- mating season doesn''t last long, and our little avian friends haven''t got Craigslist to facilitate hookups.
"Lately, the birds around my house start the tweeting around 3am"\
Damn high tech innovation! Damn it to HELL!
Aren''t you cute, R12?
Just like me...they long to be...close to you...
AN effeminate, r9, jeez.
Same here. There are several, but the one that is the most prominent is a Blue Jay that sings (advertising for a mate). It''s lovely, but not at 5am.
What is an effeminate bird?
It''s happening EVERYWHERE! \
Here they are talking about it in TN.
I love the chirping birds in the morning. It''s one of the joys of spring. What a bunch of scrooges.
We''re talking about during the middle of the night, R21
I love it. It doesn''t annoy me at all; it''s what spring is all about!
The chirping makes me happy
I see it''s only the penised birds that are disrupting people''s lives as they attempt to lure womyn-birds. What do they want with these womyn-birds? They want to rape them. \
Why doesn''t this surprise me?
If you live in a city then you''re used to hearing, and maybe being woken up by, various sounds ALL NIGHT LONG. \
I can''t believe, out of all the noise that occurs in a city 24/7, the sound of birds chirping in the middle of the night is the one sound people object to the most. \
And if you live in the country then I''m surprised you''re not more attuned to nature.
Either way, you''re a fucking LOSER
They wake me up too!\
Can''t we just do away with ALL of the birds?\
We realy don''t need them for anything and they are interupting my beauty sleep.\
I hate birds.
Take your meds, R25
Just to vex you, OP.
Birds chirp beautifully in the early morning. Some of you folks really have issues.
I don''t need meds, R27. I''m not the one who has issues with chirping birds.
The DL brain trust is at it again
Bunch of light sleepers here -- the heavy sleepers are still in bed, not having been awakened by the faint sound of chirping birdies. Princess & the pea indeed.
OP it''s because they''re gay and they smell cookies!
Maybe M. Night Shama-lama-ding-dong will make this the basis for The Happening Part II.
The birds were awake at 3am in my garden. \
I wonder if they chirp in their sleep, or it''s nocturnal nookie.
Full moon. Buy a fan for the noise.
I nip the chords.
Do you all live in treehouses?
Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?
It has been done, r33. Moron.
WW for R35
It happens every year, OP. What freaks.\
I live on a relatively quiet street in Brooklyn, and sorry [R25], but I''ve gotten used to cars, the sounds of which dissipate around 3 a.m. Birds have woken me before.\
Then I noticed they stopped doing it, and I missed them. And when you wonder how they''ve survived with all they''ve had to put up with, you should be glad they''re around.\
When I hear them now, I tell myself they''re singing me to sleep. Works every time.
R43, do you also anticipate them sweeping your kitchen and helping you bake pies?
Walt''s frozen head
You should go over to the OP''s house and keep her company at night, R44.
It is in fact the male birds that are singing. It is because they are horny and are looking to attract a female bird. They also sing to declare their territory. There really isn''t anything you can do about it. Most birds are protected under several federal laws and harassing or harming them is illegal and just plain mean. So enjoy it or wear earplugs.
[italic]The bird outside my window now is effeminate[/italic]\
Why do birds siiiing SO gaay
Get a sound machine. We run an air purifier every night which hums nicely. But the birds are indeed so loud at 5 am we have to keep the window closed.
I really feel for you there OP, you can hear perfectly and complain about the sound of harmless animals chirping.
the DEAF community.
If Alfred Hitchcock makes a cameo appearance, MOVE!
The chicken on OP''s plate
Those aren''t birds!\
They''re bugs. You live on a bug planet.
I hope OP spends the night somewhere soon where a chorus of whipporwills start up about ten o''clock and keep going until dawn.
Come feed the little birds\
Show them you care\
And you''ll be glad if you do\
Their young ones are hungry\
Their nests are so bare\
All it takes is tuppence from you.
Mary Poppins, for the Bird Woman
r39 - I was thinking of that song too. It occurred to me that I''d freak out if birds suddenly appeared everytime this person showed up.
R12 is right about the mockingbirds this time of year. But the poor outside cats have it MUCH worse; they''re constantly getting divebombed by those bitch mockingbirds. \
Hell, *I''ve* been attacked by the damned things for having the temerity to pass within 50 yards of a tree they''d nested in.
Phase V of the invasion has begun. We bow and chirp to our Almiqui overlords.
Petey and Tweety, Earth Avian Division
I have never read such an idiotic complaint in my life! You''re offended by the sound of birds?! I remember how sad I felt when my mother''s cousin pointed out that the birds she''d seen before at our home in L.A. were all gone on a subsequent visit. What do we need birds for?! What do we need you whiners for?! Do you pollinate the fields where crops go? DIDN''T THINK SO. Move deeper into Manhattan and sleep soundly to the sounds of the subways and ambulance sirens if you like, but leave the fucking birds the fuck alone, asshole.
crops grow, not go - sorry. Must have been a bird at the keyboard. And i do live in Manhattan and I feel sorry for any and all outside cats. Again, are you kidding me?! Cats outside in this city are abandoned cats unless you live in a garden apt in which case you have too much money and need to occupy yourself with real problems and not the sound of birds! How about the sound of someone breaking into your house?! And to check the net in the middle of the night - again, are you fucking kidding me?!
These are mockingbirds. They sing at night to attract a mate. I used to have a mockingbird in my neighborhood every spring until owls moved in.\
The thing to do is get a cheap fan. Either plug it in next to your bed or near the window. Turn the fan so that that air current is facing away from you. Turn on the fan. The fan motor will drown out the sound of birds.
It Really Is That Simple
I meant to emphasize cheap when I said cheap fan. It''s no good plugging in an expensive whisper quiet fan. You want one that is cheap enough that you can hear the motor. The small drugstore versions that you get for about $12 or $14. You can use it later, during the summer, to keep your ac bill down by just turning it around and letting the air current flow over you.
it is not yet near day: it was the nightingale, and not the lark, that pierced the fearful hollow of thine ear; nightly she sings on yon pomegranate-tree: believe me, love, it was the nightingale.
Has anyone ever [italic] killed [/italic]a mockingbird?\
Forget about chirping birds. I work from home, I live 15 floors up. One afternoon while at my computer, I heard a loud thud on my air conditioner. Usually small birds stop on my air conditioner, but this sound was no small bird. I thought, "Jeez, I hope someone''s air conditioner didn''t fall out their window!" Besides injuring someone, my air condition was brand new at the time.\
I lifted up one of the blind slats to see what it was, I saw these extremely large claws and talons, it was like something out of a horror movie. It was a falcon! It was huge. Yes, my neighborhood has a falcon flying around and resting on tenant''s air conditioners!
I''ve wondered the SAME thing and I live on the 5th floor of high rise! Every Spring I start hearing those fucking things around 5:00 am (I guess they''re baby birds). \
Sound travels strangly when you live higher up and I can''t figure out where these birds are but if I do find the nests, they''re dead.
I am so fucking sick of the games Asians on CL play with face pics.\
They damn well know the rule that if an ad says respond with pic that is what you do. You dont respond with "I dont like to send my face pic, but will send if you do first."\
This is manipulative, narcissistic bullshit. The say on the one hand they are submissive, but they are bossy bossy bottoms that make demands right away. Well, I punch and delete immediately.\
Are they that ashamed of what they look like? Do they think it is going to shock me to actually see Asian features?\
Play by the rules, bitches. Im really getting sick of your passive agressive games.
That''s just how they roll.
R67, falcons are relatively small birds of prey, with the exception of the gyrfalcon. Hawks are big birds. It was probably a hawk. The large redtailed hawk has begun to adapt to city life, thanks to all the pigeons.
Get a fan, plug in in next to your bed and the motor will cover the sound of chirping birds. I used to work the night shift and that is how I was able to sleep in the daytime in the city. Works very well.
You can tell who the newbies are because every year they post the same question about early birds. \
And every year the veterans tell them the tried and true Datalounge solution, which is to get a fan.\
But I think these latest crop of newbies doesn''t read the responses. They just grouse (no pun, etc) about how they want to kill birds.\
"A bird is chirping inconveniently for me. Obviously, it should be killed."
R72, do they eat rats, too? I hope so.
Your fucking chirping is annoying me.\
If I find your nest, you''re dead.
I meant [R68]\
See how reckless anger targets innocents?
The prefer squirrels to rats, R72. And Central Park is full of squirrels. It''s full of rats, too, but the rats are only a last resort food. \
If Central Park had more owls it would have fewer rats because both rats and owls are nocturnal.
r72 - the larger hawks like Red-tails are not frequent bird eaters. The Acipitors are the bird eatering hawks and rarely are seen on a building. Most likely what r67 saw was a Perigrine Falcon. They have adapted to cities and use the pigeon population as a food source.
Get a toy stuffed cat or a large cat figurine and put in the the window. Birds are stupid and will think it''s a real cat and stay away.
R72, there are a few redtailed hawks on the Upper East Side. I see one in winter that perches on a building antenna somewhere down around First Avenue and 87th Street. I see the two on Fifth Avenue quite frequently. \
I don''t know why I see the antenna bird so much in winter but not in summer. I see a hawk perched on that antenna most frequently in January, February and March. I wonder if it hunts in Carl Schurz Park?
OMG, they are taking over. I''m watching the president speak and hear the chirping! So much chirping!
My now deceased mom with AZ first started complaining and cussing at the noisey birds!
>>the larger hawks like Red-tails are not frequent bird eaters. \
I have seen the redtails eating pigeons in Central Park pretty frequently and on the church roof across the street from me. I''ve seen them eating pigeons while a wedding was coming out of the church and little feathers were floating down and being caught by the bride and her maids, smiling at the good luck symbol, having no idea a redtailed hawk was ripping a pigeon apart behind a parapet above them. One snowy winter I watched a redtail hunt pigeons on 91st and Lexington. There was a rooftop garbage-burning room with Greek columns which provided shelter to pigeons and it was on the hawk''s regular rounds.\
Redtailed hawks nickname BTW, is chicken hawk. Because they like chickens, which are birds.
I''ll tell you what I know. Birds are very well aware of Global Warning, or the 2012 end of days Syndrome. We are going through major changes, that''s why Birds have been acting funny lately.
Well, I guess I won''t have to deal with this problem after 12/21/2012.
I was also annoyed at 5 AM by the birds. We need to end them.
OMG, I can''t believe there are so many clueless idiots gathered in one place.\
It''s referred to as a Dawn Chorus and it''s been going on since forever. It has nothing to do with 2012 or global warming. \
The first time I ever heard a mockingbird singing at night I was a teenager and actually got out of bed and went outside with a flashlight because I thought my neighbor''s canary had escaped. I wanted to try to catch it and bring it back to her. But when I got near the dogwood tree, it would stop singing. \
It wasn''t until years later, when I moved into my house and had the internet, that I learned what it was. I heard a bird singing every night and I typed "bird singing at night" into the search engine and up popped a picture of a mockingbird and a description of its habits. I said, "Aha."\
Now I am a regular twitcher.
[quote]What is an effeminate bird?\
r18, you have to listen closely to the chirps to find out what they''re talking about. If the bird is yapping about liking big asses, or calling other birds "pedophile," or saying they need a tan, or calling a normal sized bird "skinny".... well then it''s clearly an effeminate.
[quote] Food & Hunting: The Red-tailed Hawk is a most opportunistic hunter. Its diet is varied, but there is conclusive evidence now that 85 to 90 % is composed of small rodents, with rabbits, snakes and lizards included. Where there are large numbers of pheasant, these become the food of choice in spring and summer. Like all hawks, its talons are its main weapons.\
It''s likely that the Red-tails that you see going after pigeons have adapted to a available food source, but as the quote above says this is not their normal food source. Mainly because of the shape of their wings. They aren''t agile enough to efficiently catch small birds on the wing.\
The name "chicken Hawk" for the Red-tail is a well known misnomer. While they have in the past taken a few chickens, it is rare.
R67 said the bird was on an air conditioner in the city on the 15th floor. It wasn''t hunting rabbits. Redtailed hawks have become very adapted to the city environemt.\
Here''s a photo of me enjoying some pigeon tidbits.
Something else to consider: if you find yourself outdoors in an environment with no birdsong or bird calls at all, you should be worried. In areas with no evidence of bird activity it''s likely that there''s a predator nearby or that there''s something toxic in the immediate environment hostile to living creatures in general. If birds aren''t there, you don''t want to be there either.\
Contrary to what someone posted earlier, birds are [italic]not[/italic] stupid; they have many millions more years of experience surviving on this planet than we do. Yet thanks to humans wantonly destroying their habitats we are at this very moment in the midst of the worst mass extinction of birdlife this planet has ever known. Enjoy the unique songs and sounds they make before they disappear forever.
It''s those damn Northern male mocking birds trying to attract a mate...\
I''m tempted to kill every last 1 of those horny little fuckers.
trying to find my BB gun
R106, they were here long before you and are just doing what they need to do to survive. Put the gun down and buy earplugs.
Last year I lived part-time in a town on Long Island which only had parking lot birds -- English house sparrows and gulls. There were plenty of trees, but no birds living in them (English house sparrows nest in building cavities and atop your supermarket's name sign). It creeped me out.
I went to a "preserve" where I did not see one bird in late winter. My companion on the walk said, "It's winter! That's why there aren't any birds. They're all down south." I rolled my eyes. Blue jays, cardinals, chickadees, tufted titmice, white throated sparrows, juncos, white crowned sparrows are just a few of the birds that visit my yard in another town during winter. I noticed the preserve had no undergrowth. There was no protection for birds, no fruiting or seed-producing brush. I could see squirrel nests all over the treetops. There were no coniferous trees, no evergreens. Only deciduous trees and rhodedendrons. The person who set up the preserve in memorium to a family member had denuded the place of diverse growth in order to make it "restful." It was restful, all right. Dead restful.
When spring came, I still didn't see any birds. I was glad I had a home in a place where, right now, the sound of robins calling out, declaring their roosting territory (what used to be called "vespers" by people who didn't know how birds behaved) is very loud. I love it.
Oh -- if a neighborhood has a crow's roost it can prevent other birdlife from flourishing. There is a place mid-island where crows roost in the hundreds. There are next to no songirds for miles around because crows are terrible nest scavengers. They steal and eat other birds' eggs, nestlings and fledglings.
I''m thrilled it''s mating season and the horny birds are yapping away outside my window.\
I''m just grateful I can hear anything resembling nature in the middle of LA.
[quote]You can tell who the newbies are because every year they post the same question about early birds.\
I''ve been a DL regular for eight years and can''t remember ever seeing another thread about early birds. Btw another good, cheap solution is wear earplugs. I''m a prissy bitch when it comes to slumber and need absolute silence when I sleep, and I''ve been wearing them every night since I was a teen.
I have two cockatiels who start up in the morning and I''ve always enjoyed the sound of waking up to them chirping. Kind of cheerful.
"There really isn''t anything you can do about it. Most birds are protected under several federal laws and harassing or harming them is illegal"\
In other words, birds have more rights than infant boys.
[quote] I''ve been a DL regular for eight years and can''t remember ever seeing another thread about early birds.\
Every year we have a thread in springtime where people want to shoot birds singing at night and/or early in the morning.
Been Here Since 1998. Pay Attention
You''re right r112. Songbirds cannot be adopted by Madonna, Angelina Jolie or Sandra Bullock.
It''s only 4:30 in the morning and the birds have already started chirping.\
R116, you''re obviously on the easy coast. so where are you that you don''t have the a/c on like I do? I can''t hear the birds because the a/c is so loud.
Oops, needless to say I''m not getting much sleep. Just realized it''s almost 5:30 here.
Thats nothing! Im sick home from work for 2 weeks and the Bastard Indina mynah birds start chirping at 5am and go constantly till about 9pm! This is doing my head in.I cant handle it anymore.I may have to move.
Stupid bastardly birds woke me up this morning. I threw a rock at it..then it came back 20 min later. I want sleep!!! Fml!
And gtfo R21,23,25,29 if u love the birds so much then go sleep with them
Get a life id rather live where there arent any annoying stupid birds interrupting MY sleep! I praise this predator u speak of
Chirp you, OP!
Listen to the mockingbird.
I think it's cheerful.
Don't have time to go through the whole thread, but in case the op's question hasn't been answered - some birds see extra rays of light that humans don't so for them it gets light about an hour earlier than it does for us. I know this is true for roosters/hens and is the reason why rooster crow so early in the morning.
I have a fan running on high...can STILL hear the damn assholes. SO... I can see that no one has a solution.
Do scarecrows really work?
Could I get a whistle of some kind?
Anything that repels birds?
The birds around here are louder and earlier than I ever remember. It's really fucking up my sleep, and therefore the rest of my life. I don't want to harm the birds but they HAVE to stop this.
It's springtime so they are feeling a little extra frisky.
We have a flock of tose famous screeching parrots, but luckily, dusk is their primetime.
Morning is the gentle coo of doves.
r10 will burn in hell
This is why I hate Hawaii.
Check the skymall catalogue online, they usually have solutions for this stuff
R16 needs to go back to grade school.
'cause Tweety's a twat, OP.
They are right outside the bedroom window! They're purposefully loud!
I taught I taw a bitchy queen.
I did! I did tee a bitchy queen!
They're pissed that your house encroached on their land.
It's 250 am n Thers this fucken annoying piece of shit bird crimping outside my window ,, bout to call animal control on that bitch
How do I get brids to stop shitting on my deck? I used bird tape last year and it worked, but this year it has no effect on them.
This wouldn't be a problem if we allowed prayer in schools.
Birds chirp before "daylight" because they have the ability to see ultra violet light ahead of visible light (humans only see what is called visible light between 390/750 nm) So birds see the coming light of the rising sun, quite sometime before humans do.
I love birds and their chirping too. How could a singing bird annoy anyone? just put an ear plug in your ear and go back to sleep if you're that sensitive.
Surely many of you have butt plugs that could do double duty.
Well, they should be genetically altered to prevent them from having that ability, R141
hopefully someone can give a serious reply to this. at my home they have been chirping from daylight to dark. sometimes so loud i cant hear my t.v. gets on ones nerves! any suggestions???
"Don't they know it's the end of the world, it ended when you said goodbye"
I'm just tired of the squirrels snoring. I think Midwestern squirrels must suffer from sleep apnea.
Wow, OP - so now you're trying to gentrify the sky???? Why don't you move underground?
Aw, OP, I'm kind of sad for you. I recently moved from living in a very dense urban setting my entire life to a semi-rural small town and I love the birds chirping. I'd never heard that before and I find it cute and relaxing.
Just try a little DDT judiciously applied to their foodstuffs, dear.
Chirping birds are less annoying than yowling cats in the throes of passion.
So true, R153.
It also doesn't help that it's a constant reminder that the cats are getting more action than I do.
Chung Ho see many birds in fields in North Korea. Birds sing songs to say "I am here stay out." Pretty music for peoples is warning from one bird to other, to get out of my space."
Birds sing not because of light but because they find food in morning and other birds come into their space. Birds say "Stay out."
In North Korea and Asia people like the birds and make use of them, but we appreciate songs too.
[quote]Chung Ho see many birds in fields in North Korea.
You see birds, I see Korean barbecue!
Really 5am? We move into their territory, completely destroy it and then
We have to complain about them making noise at 5am. I wish
Shut your damn window. Id be more pissed off at hearing a car go down the street, then to hear an innocent creature peep.
At this hour nothing can be done.
Just before dawn the birds begin,
The warblers who prefer the dark,
The cage-birds answering. To work!
Outside this room the chill of grace
Lies heavy on the morning grass.
Isn't there something they could spray to rid the cities of these pests? Besides the noise they make, there's all the bird poop everywhere.
Isn't this why they genetically engineered the jabberjays in the Hunger Games novels?
I wish teh birds would shut up.
Its 3 am...why the He Double L are they chirping?
Loading my shot gun too
They're doing it right now. But it gets light enough here before 6 a.m. ET in Michigan.
Finally bought a white noise machine because of the sound of the birds in the middle night- works like a charm!
I love the sound of birds chirping. At any time.
R166, me too
I hate the sound of mourning doves, but bird sounds in general don't bother me.
They do it just to annoy you OP. Birds hate assholes
it's nature and I love to hear them.
Because ....their happy!
Renee Solomon, a social work prof. at Columbia, was arrested by the ASPCA for messing with irritating birds. So be careful, OP.