They''ve been around long enough to learn, but they can''t create anything resembling an authentic human emotion.
Did you called me?
John Barrowman (the only exception is when he''s playing Captain Jack)
and R2, I love the username!
Sam Worthington owns this thread
Have to agree about Brookie. She''s my age and I''ve admired her from way back. But like Madonna she can''t let her guard down. They really shouldn''t be acting.
The attempts at an accent. Oy.
If you want acting go to Broadway. H''wood is about eye candy. When they''re no longer sweet, they''re gone.
Just so all you fish will know, Lopez, Jolie, Smith and shields are ACTRESSES... NOT ACTORS.\
Actors have a penis, not a vagine.
"Aww hell NAWWWWW"
I second Angelina. The only movie I''ve ever liked her in is "Mr. and Mrs. Smith", and that''s only because Brad made her smile. \
Still, she wasn''t acting. \
Jennifer Aniston can''t act. \
But then I never thought Humphrey Bogart could act either; still don''t. He was always just Bogie, no matter what movie he was in. \
There''s almost too many to recount. Greta Garbo, John Wayne, Lauren Bacall, even Jack Nicholson. They''re just themselves in every picture they do.
Meh. Give me Marilyn or Bette Davis any day.
I just can''t think of anyone.
Kristen Stewart owns this thread.\
David Caruso is ridiculous but fun.
Christopher Meloni \
David Boreanaz is annoying and unfunny in interviews. He is also fairly dumb but thinks he is smart and amusing.
Times fifty gazillion.
Brooke''s acting at the MJ funeral was pretty good. Like she really believed he was some kind of innocent, please!
Demi Moore. \
I rememeber years a go a film studio executive commenting, (anonymously, of course,) in a Vanity Fair article that to be a "star" does not require acting talent. What is required is that undefinable "something" that, when shown on film, that person maintains your attention. \
I just KNEW he oe she was referring to Moore.
Most actors are themselves in the movies they play. That is why they are cast for that particular personality. Just because they are playing themselves doesn''t mean that they cannot act.
R23, the exec kind of does have a good point. In a lot of ways, the it factor is more important than the actual acting skills.
True r24. It is ridiculous for some to suggest that Nicholson is a bad actor. He''s a great actor.
It pains me to say, because I''ve loved him since I was a kid, but I''ve watched some recent film with Robert Redford, and man, does he suck.
Yeah, R26, as long as the script calls for him to play Jack Nicholson.
Jack Nicholson in his modern crappy movies is basically just himself, but he is still animated and performing to some extent. He is just coasting and making crap.\
Now as for something like The Joker, he was brilliant and certainly not just himself. That would''ve taken a ton of effort, inspiration, and raw acting talent. Brilliant performance.
I watch Ryan Phillippe for his looks not his acting, so i dont mind if he is a bad actor
Another vote for Harrison Ford. His best performances were in two film I happened to enjoy:"Witness" and "Presumed Innocent." \
And that''s not saying much.
Harrison Ford can most definitely act.
Colin Farrell is a good actor. Watch "In Bruges" or "Phone Booth" especially.
I don''t think David Boreanaz belongs on this list... I love him.\
I have to say though, many of the other people Joss Whedon has a thing for cannot act: Eliza Dushku, Sarah Michelle Gellar, and the guy who played Xander.
38 R''s and not one mention of Kevin Klein?
Chris Evans. I''m so tired of Hollywood trying to make him happen.
Almost every single person on the Disney channel. Seriously, have you ever watched it? It''s worth it just to see the strange facial twitches, weird wide-eyed expressions, wild up and down enunciations and other craziness that an actual human would never do. What kind of director lets such a thing happen?
Drew Barrymore, her ancestors must be spinning in their graves.
ACTRESS is not a word. Is a female poet a POETESS? People who act are actors. Actress is a movie magazine word.
Kate Bosworth. Do I really need to elaborate?
M (you all thought I was going to see Glenn didn''t you?)
R26, as my drama teacher once pointed out to our class, Jack Nicholson is not an actor.
Actually R46, yes. A poetess is a female poet.\
Bruce Willis. He''s like the Cheshire Cat: nothing but smirk.
Brad Pitt is the worst actor I''ve ever seen. He just sucks the life out of every scene he''s in. It''s like he walked in off the street and just joined in.\
I even think Tom Cruise is better.
Sandra Bullock, is either sassy and sarcastic (28 Days/The Blind Side) \
self demeaning and sarcastic (While You Were Sleeping and every other movie).\
As a matter of fact, self deprecation is her biggest acting tool and the reason why the public loves her.\
Keanu Reeves, great hair and great smile but he can''t let the guard down. Although he did suprise me in "The Gift".
Candace Bergen. She''s so stiff she puts me on edge whenever i see her. And her sitcom was an abomination. \
Brad Pitt is the runner up in this category. I happened to catch a clip of\
A River Runs Through It the other day while channel surfing. Totally vacant.
Tom Cruise owns this thread. Has never had one authentic moment on film.
But of course, it is all acting, even when it is good acting. Never authentic.\
I just hate it when they go from one end of the movie to the other looking serious and as though they are in a serious. drama. movie. Like Tobey Maguire in the Cider House Rules. Just stop pouting!
And about the Brad Pitt thing...I just noticed this when I was flipping channels and caught Interview with the Vampire. Holy shit, both him and Tom Cruise are embarrassing.\
What the hell??
My pussy STINKS!
Miss Helene Bed
McBongo, all day long.
Pitt can be good, especially when playing himself (Ocean''s movies) or totally weird (I liked him in Burn after Reading), but he does seem to be mostly scenery in my favorite Pitt movie Meet Mr. Black.
I said Nic Cage, but you know what? R62 wins.
This clip sums things up perfectly, especially the bit around the minute mark about the difference between a movie star and an actor.
What about actors who were okay as kids, but became too self concious and rigid as adults.\
This is totally off topic, but I really hate that Sarandon is now too old to star in a Bette Davis biopic. I''ve always envisioned her in this role.
oops, that would be "conscious"
Salma Hayek, Keanu Reeves, Demi Moore, Winona Ryder, Penelope Cruz, Julia Roberts, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Johnny Depp (sorry, I like you), Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise ....
I actually think David Caruso''s a decent actor. He does the "small moments" really well. IMO, his problem is his ego. Some actors get shit writing but compensate with great (or at least very good) performances. Caruso plays down to the level of his material. And face it, these days not even our greatest living actors are getting consistently great material to work with. If Caruso thinks he''s better than the material, he either sleepwalks or substitutes shtick for acting.\
Like many actors, he needs to get over himself. (But it ain''t gonna happen)
What are you smoking, r70?\
Caruso and "acting" don''t even belong in the same paragraph!
I think Jodie Foster is a very good actor, I just don''t care for her choice in roles.\
Speaking of good actors, here''s my list (I know .. another thread) of the most versatile actors:\
Philip Seymour Hoffman\
Max Von Sydow\
I forgot to add these:\
David Boreanaz is terrible.\
Jared Padalecki is awful and is not even trying anymore.
Sarah Michelle Gellar\
All have awful voices and desperately need voice training.
Al Pacino, one time fabulous actor now he does the same thing over and over in every movie, same voice, everything, can''t stand to watch him.\
Daytime tv, the winner is Michael Easton, he has no clue, terrible, terrible, terrible.
R71, I can see why you''d think so, but have you ever seen Caruso in anything besides CSI MIAMI or JADE? He was the only thing worth watching in PROOF OF LIFE (outperforming Meg Ryan and Russell Crowe), and the character he created on HILL STREET BLUES showed his skill.
[quote]Jared Padalecki is awful and is not even trying anymore.\
Jared is terrible, but I actually think his problem is that he''s trying [italic]too[/italic] hard, not that he''s not trying hard enough.
Meryl own this thread.
Actually, r79, Caruso was never on "Hill Street Blues". He did the first season of "NYPD Blue" - and he was godawful on that as well. As for "Jade" - GAAAAAAHHHHHK!
ACTUALLY, R82, he did. Caruso had a multi-episode arc on HSB, playing an Irish-American street thug. He made such a positive impression, Bochco remembered him years later when casting leads for NYPD BLUE--this time, for a role on the opposite side of the law.
Hill Street Blues fan from back in the day
I don''t get any pleasure watching Jodie Foster. She seems so tense, every tiny emotion forced out like a bad bowel movement.
Foster, like Swank, is very good in a very limited range of roles
Is this list "actors who can''t act - In MY opinion" or "Actors who can''t act - and everyone in the world knows it"\
Example: Keanu is someone almost everyone would agree is HORRIBLE.\
If its the latter, then Jodie, Jack, Warren and others do not belong on this list. Very few people would say that Jodie, Jack, Warren and others are not good actors. The general public loves these actors.
An oldie: Robert Friggin'' Cummings. I NEVER found him believable in any role. He ruined "Dial ''M'' for Murder" for me.\
Never understood that guy''s enduring popularity. Wooden, fake, and boring. \
Speaking of which--Hugh O''Brien.
Yeah, I''m old.
[quote]Keanu Reeves, great hair and great smile but he can''t let the guard down. Although he did suprise me in "The Gift".\
Did he come up behind you and push you or something?
Tom Cruise IS better than Brad Pitt.\
And Heath Ledger is the most grossly overrated actor of all time. He was fairly bad, fake and constipated sounding in BM, and atrocious in The Dark Knight. He deserved a razzie.
R66, that''s a whole ''nother can of worms. Some of them had no right to become legit adult actors, but that doesn''t detract from their qualities when young.\
Culkin wasn''t a good actor in home alone, but he was likable, believable, and had star power. Kids at the time wanted to be him.\
It''s better to have that as a kid then be a more legit kid actor who is always ''on'' and self conscious, I think. That always looks fake to me, although they may end up being the better actors as they age.
"Heath Ledger is the most grossly overrated actor of all time"\
He is overrated as is anyone who dies prematurely, but "the most grossly overrated actor of all time"? Hyperbole much?
I''m not exaggerating. He was absolutely horrible in TDK. Profoundly bad. It was something a high school student trying to be cool would do. Completely self conscious and fake.\
I was embarrassed by it.
Eli Wallach is the all-time winner and patron saint of this category. Not just ham, but dripping processed smug ham lunch meat.
R58 I think Tom Cruise is a good actor. He''s annoying, kind of a jerk and batshit crazy, but he''s a good actor.
Julianna Margulies owns this thread. She was lucky they gave her a second chance at a tv show after her movie career bombed. She is also extremely lucky to have such a great supporting cast that makes her look good. She really is the weakest actor on that show.
[quote]Candace Bergen. She''s so stiff she puts me on edge whenever i see her. And her sitcom was an abomination. \
On Murphy Brown she shouted every punchline, and that somehow passed for comedy. I couldn''t believe she got Emmy after Emmy just for shouting. She was awful.
Channing Tatum is atrocious.
All 99 posts in this thread should read: Halle Berry.\
The entire cast of Twilight
Tom Cruise and George Clooney, joint equal first.\
Brad Pitt and any other ''actor'' who got cast for looks alone (and it is possible to have both looks and talent)\
Sandra Bullock is very, very good in a very, very limited type of role. Likewise Jodie Foster.\
To be honest, very few of the ''big'' hollywood stars appeal to me as actors. Maybe I know too much about them, so it''s difficult to suspend disbelief (''oh look, Meryl and Alec Baldwin having sex...'')
I second R8. Gerard Butler has a great publicist, but he cannot act.\
R103 and the other posters are right. Tom Cruise is a one note actor.\
Both Butler and Cruise went to The Linda Evans School of Acting.\
I''d add Jack Nicholson. He plays himself more and more these days!
Compared with most American leading men of his day Bogart was a decent actor. At least when he lost his looks he was able to carry on in more mature roles. If Clark Gable and Cary Grant hadn''t had such enduringly pretty faces they would have been long gone.
Ashton Kutcher. This "thespian" makes bomb after bomb and he''s still allowed to make movies. He''s gotta be leaning back on the casting couch.
Butler and Worthington are both terrible.\
I don''t always love Pitt but he''s done some okay work: FIGHT CLUB, 12 MONKEYS.\
And Clooney was wonderful in UP IN THE AIR.
I just saw VALENTINE''S DAY and was dismayed by how much of the movie Kutcher carries. And he''s bad, as bad as he''s ever been. Smirking adorably is not acting.
R44 is right. That''s why so many of the graduates of the Disney studio system can''t act for shit. They''re like trained seals who wouldn''t know a real emotion if it hit them in the face.
Emily Deschanel doesn''t belong on this list. She plays an autistic character. Watch an interview with her; she''s not at all like Brennan in real life.
Austin Peck. Gets hired for S&M only - Standing & Modeling, shirtless.
[quote]Sandra Bullock is very, very good in a very, very limited type of role. Likewise Jodie Foster.\
I agree about Sandra and I think she has more range than she is ever given credit for but, Foster isn''t good at anything. At least Bullock is likable. Foster is her usual stuck-up, uptight self. She''s fug, too.\
That grotesque caveman like creature who does movies with the equally untalented Cruz woman. Whatever his name is his ugliness and lack of talent make it difficult to watch a movie with him in it. I tried watching the woeful VCB and he almost broke my tv set with his revolting looks...not to mention the stupid script.\
There is boatload of hammy actors who are just that HAMS.
[quote]Compared with most American leading men of his day Bogart was a decent actor. At least when he lost his looks he was able to carry on in more mature roles.\
Bogart wasn''t even a decent actor and he sure as hell wasn''t good looking!
I was always puzzled and appalled by all the Emmys Bergen got for Murphy Brown.
Renée Zellweger. Her acting consists of making her "I just ate a pickle" face and the occasional squint.
No one fits this description better than Emily Deschanel.
Thank god you were able to add that 3 years after this thread died!
That horrible soap actor who whispers and makes 'concerned" faces all the time, Drake Hogstein or something, the guy who plays Dr. Marlena Evans husband, he is possibly the worst actor ever to grace a soap.
Same for the actress who play Kristen on DOOL, she also whispers like Drake, they are completely awful, neither can act to save their lives. You'd think after YEARS of being on a TV show, there would be some improvement?
Speaking of terrible actors, is that horrible Andrew Triscuit still in the online version of OLTL? If so, I sure hope the kid took acting lessons during his downtime. He's another completely awful 'actor'. There is just so long one skate on their looks or their image.
Madonna and Jennifer Lopez. Holy fuck.
Nobody yet has mentioned one of the most wooden actresses of all time (besides Candace Bergen):
Like Foster, she's tense and self-conscious all the damn time. She couldn't even play Henry Fonda's daughter convincingly in On Golden Pond. Even in that, I could hear her reading lines all the way through. On the other hand, she did have (and still does) one of the best asses ever.
About 90% of all soap actors. Even the ones who are not awful are really not that good.
Angela Bassett. An extremely overrated, one-note "actress" who plays every character the same way: sanctimonious, self-important, humorless, intense and angry. 99% of the time she basically plays herself and audiences lap it up.
r120 I think someone upthread explained the problems of "actors" like Madonna: she can't let her guard down, she's too self-conscious. She just can't embody anybody else but herself.
As for good actors, M.C.Hall (he played two completely different characters on two long running series) and Bryan Cranston.
Anyone who has been on a soap opera for more than 10 years.
I love Jane Fonda. I'm a little offended she's on here.
[quote]Brad Pitt is the worst actor I've ever seen. He just sucks the life out of every scene he's in. It's like he walked in off the street and just joined in. I even think Tom Cruise is better.
R53, you're right - sometimes he is excruciatingly bad but he always looks nice, so there's that. He's also done better work. Nobody saw that Jesse James thing but he was very good in it.
Some actors are always bad but I don't think Pitt's one of them. I don't know enough about acting or movies to know why an actor capable of a good performance gives a shit one. With all the variables involved, it can't always be the actor's fault.
Now if we could just add Tim Allen to the list, with all due affection for "Galaxy Quest". Also, it's nice that he stopped being a coke dealer.
"I think someone upthread explained the problems of "actors" like Madonna: she can't let her guard down, she's too self-conscious. She just can't embody anybody else but herself."
The operative word here is 'actor/actress'. Madonna is neither. Seriously, casting a musical performer as Madonna, and I use the term 'musical' loosely, does not necessarily translate to film. Very few musicians have become successful actors, so many musicians have tried, Jagger, Sting etc.
Having presence in one area doesn't mean it will translate to film, the same goes for many models who failed at acting. I can name a handful of former models who became good actresses: Faye Dunaway, Famke Jensen. Donna Mitchell and Rene Russo come to mind, Cindy Crawford cannot act to save her life. Cameron Diaz has succeeded but she's One Note.
January Jones is another model-turned-bad actress.
The problem with Brad Pitt, R127, isn't that he [italic]can't[/italic] act, it's with the roles he's given. Quite simply, he's a character actor trapped in a leading man's body.
I do think he has some talent, but all of my favorite parts that he's played were weird fuck-ups. 'Twelve Monkeys', 'Kalifornia', 'Johnny Suede', the aforementioned 'Assassination of Jesse James...', 'Burn After Reading', 'Snatch', Tyler Durden in 'Fight Club', and hell, even the small part of the stoner friend to Christian Slater in 'True Romance' was hilariously done.
The thing is, Pitt has a blast playing lowlifes and creeps, so he excels at those roles. Slather some grease in his hair, give him a crazy mustache, and break a few teeth, he's happy as a clam.
But leading man roles? Dull as dishwater. He can't sell urbane or witty or even suburban, no matter how pretty he is.
[quote]That grotesque caveman like creature who does movies with the equally untalented Cruz woman. Whatever his name is his ugliness and lack of talent make it difficult to watch a movie with him in it
R113, are you referring to Javier Bardem? If so, your prejudice against his looks is blinding to you to a major talent. Bardem has given some wonderful, amazing performances. 'Biutiful', 'The Sea Inside', the one where he played Renaldo Arenas--not to mention his Oscar-winning turn in 'No Country For Old Men'. I've enjoyed his work since his early days with Almodovar.
And I find Bardem hot as well as talented.
Acting is not hard. All it is is parading in front of the camera in costumes. Anyone can do it.
I also love Jane Fonda. After seeing Klute and They Shoot Horses, how can anyone say she's anything but one of the best movie actresses ever? My nominee for this category: Joan Crawford, perhaps the worst actress to become a star.
Yes, R127, and I detest his smug on-camera presence.
But I have to admit, Allen is a fantastic voice actor. I even always turn up the volume on his Michigan commercials.
Cringeworthy I agree -
Candice Bergen in all of Murphy Brown
Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys
Rosalind Russell in Mame
Claire Danes in Stardust
Julia Roberts faking her Sally Field Oscar moment
The list goes on...
"I know what it is to be bad...I've been bad."
Ms. Ciccone sure got that right! "Bad" doesn't even begin to describe her 'acting'!
I'd always laugh when all the local news stations would show her clip from "Speed The Plow" when their entertainment critics reviewed her in the play!
Vadge: I'm the shittiest actress ever. Everyone hates my movies, now what?
Inner Vadge: I know, I'll do BROADWAY!
Casting her in "Speed the Plow" was just an exercise in P.T. Barnum-style cynicism.
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Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Scarlett Johansson, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hanks are all very shitty actors.
Gay porn whore Stephen Martines (aka Slutty Felix of Boy Gusher). How he landed a role on the final season of Burn Notice I'll never know.
McEwen as Miss Marple.
Wow. Lots of disagreements here, which I find odd, given how many piss-poor actors are out there we could all agree on.
David Caruso (I cannot believe someone supported him here, but everyone has a mother I suppose)
Emily Deschanel (I love Bones, and she's very pretty but either she plays an ncredibly irritating character very well or she's just a rotten actress)
Tim Allen is not what you'd call clasically trained, but I enjoy him when he plays Tim Allen and that voice is great.
David Boreanaz is (IMHO) about the least attractive human being on Earth but has actually got the ability to emote on screen and might be the best thing on Bones (besides to Stunning Michaela Conlin, and I could care less if she can act bt for the record I believe she can)
But come on 144 entries and nobody mentions the stinkfest that is Chris O'Donnell? I love NCIS and was sooo excited about NCIS:LA but I cannot watch that guy suck so badly. He makes Mr Cube look great though, Cube comes accross likeable and talented. Maybe they are really good friends and Chris wants to make his home-boy look like the talented one. That would work if they didn't have to share the screen with the wonderful/irritating/amazing/fugly but hugely enjoyable Linda Hunt who easily steals every single scene as E. Mode (sorry, I mean Hetty)
Sam Worthington is from my part of the world, as is Heath Ledger, but whilst Heath was (IMHO) decent in most things and decidedly OK in that batman film, I think it's easy for a decent actor to look like a huge star when he's playing opposite a rubber suit like the guy that played Batman. seriously, the costume had better acting chops.
Liam Neeson - awful, grim actor who I really enjoy watching.
Matt Bomer can both act, and is irritatingly handsome and charismatic to us non-handsome dudes
I'm surprised to see such bad opinions of Candace Bergen, whom I rate quite well, esp after Boston Legal.
Before Boston Legal I'd have said William Shatner but holy crap he was amazing as Denny Crane (whole cast of star trek above criticism anyway, cos Trek was coolness)
Zachary Quinto - here's where the argument gets tricky - he looked like Spock. Boy did he look good as a vulcan. Perfect for the role, right? You but horrible, horrible performance. Compare with Nimoy. smae character, difficult to make him likeable as an emotionless, deadpan straightman. Nimoy hit that role so far out of the park, NASA recently lost sight of it in the suburbs of Pluto. Damn that guy was good. Made that role look EASY, son. then you get ZQ in the role and you realise that it's hard damn work looking that good. For the record, Tim Roth made and excellent Vulcan in Voyager, but I never saw him in anything else where he was half that good.
Jessica Alba can act, she has moments of fantasticality but I find her inconsistent.
Jennifer Aniston - charismatic but not an acting genius
Jennifer Garner rocked in Alias but often not good in films, but since I'm a man, I could care less because she's stunning with a lovely smile
Julia Roberts is actually very, very talented IMHO and has certain skills she brings to a role which few women can do convincingly
The Margulise lady from The Good Wife whose first name escapes me for the moment. I'm totes witht he poster who said its a good job the rest of the cast are good, cos she blows chunks in every scene of what is otherwise a good show. Somebody give that lady a course of antidepressants, then give the audience some. depressing to watch.
Oh, and Brent Spiner - I'm Sorry Mr Spiner, I loved you in TNG more than you will ever know. you made that show what it was, an Epoch making TV event. your protrayal of Data was bloody superb sir. Unfortunately it turns out you make a very unconvincing humand being in anyother role I've seen you in, and that pains me deeply.
Along the same lines, Scott Bakula - Dude, I loved you in Quantum Leap. So, so much. The energy, the charisma, the pathos. Soem of the best acting I have ever, ever, ever seen. Then Enterprise. What the holy freaking bat crap?
Any member of "Twilight" excluding Dakota.
Kerry Washington is beautiful but a lousy actor.
R145 - "Emily Deschanel (I love Bones, and she's very pretty but either she plays an ncredibly irritating character very well or she's just a rotten actress)"
I've seen Emily in other roles. She's playing an incredibly irritating character very well on Bones.
[R52] While I agree that Bruce Willis is not necessarily the best actor, I think he is at his best in comedies. He *is* John McClain, the anti-hero of the first Die Hard. Subsequent ones are pointless but the whole purpose of the first movie was he was a normal guy in an extraordinary situation. He was capable of getting injured and he bitched at having to go through that. The last one where he's getting blown out of a window by a bomb into a swimming pool and surviving....yeah kinda missing the point of the first movie.
Also, he became Ernest Menville in Death Becomes Her, just a few years after Die Hard. Can't imagine anyone else playing the timid, mousey character.
The one trick fucking pony voice actor seth macfarlane!
Eva Mendes plays herself in every fucking film she's in, literally you cannot tell the difference between her on set and pap shots...
Tom Green and Andy Dick
Jennifer 3 Faces Fucking Lopez! Face one pout, face two scowl, face 3 try and look like she's in love but it comes across like she has just woken up; mix that with her fat ass ghetto walk and get a washed up career for 2014
Jennifer Aniston - pretending to simulate oral sex with a banana whilst wearing lingere is not a substitute for being able to act as any other character than Rachel from Friends.... give it up and take a fucking indie role
Josh Duhamel - boyish eye candy all day long
Lawrence Fishburne - same shit new set
Elizbeth Berkley brought it on herself
Vin Diesel is on Dominic Torretto auto pilot
Tobey Maguire. I cannot understand how he gets cast in all these big movies. He's horrible. Flat, monotone voice. Not particularly attractive.
Channing Tatum owns this thread.
I think some people are just naming actors they personally dislike, rather than actors who are truly BAD.
There is a difference between people like Clooney, Roberts, and Bullock who may have a limited range but are good in that range, and actors who suck no matter what role they play.
I really appreciate actors like Jared Leto who play someone very different in every film. Who wants to see Tom Hanks play Tom Hanks for the 50th time?
[quote]The thing is, Pitt has a blast playing lowlifes and creeps, so he excels at those roles. Slather some grease in his hair, give him a crazy mustache, and break a few teeth, he's happy as a clam.
[quote]But leading man roles? Dull as dishwater. He can't sell urbane or witty or even suburban, no matter how pretty he is.
Please. He was in 10 minutes of 12 Years a Slave and it was some of the most embarrassing acting I've ever seen. When compared to Michael Fassbender and Chiwetel Ejiofor it looked like they just found some mentally deficient homeless person off the street. He was also hammy and ridiculous (and not in a good way) in Inglourious Basterds.
How has Mark Wahlberg not been mentioned yet?
[quote] Jennifer Aniston - pretending to simulate oral sex with a banana whilst wearing lingere is not a substitute for being able to act as any other character than Rachel from Friends.... give it up and take a fucking indie role
The Good Girl
[quote]Julia Roberts is actually very, very talented IMHO and has certain skills she brings to a role which few women can do convincingly
Ugh, please. I had the (dis)pleasure of seeing rushes on one of her films. She is far, far worse than even the most critical DLers think. She is a horrid actress.
[quote]Tobey Maguire. I cannot understand how he gets cast in all these big movies. He's horrible. Flat, monotone voice. Not particularly attractive.
I agreed with this for years until I saw "The Good German" in which he played a weasel-scumbag and was fucking great. Maybe Soderbergh is the only director alive who can get a good performance out of him.
How is it possible that no one has mentioned Master Thespians Beyonce Knowles, Jessica Simpson and Dane Cook?
"How is it possible that no one has mentioned Master Thespians Beyonce Knowles, Jessica Simpson and Dane Cook?"
Good call. They all SUCK. Add Carrie Underwooden, too.
I can't go thru this whole thing, but I would hope tha Demi Moore has gotten at least a few mentions. Classic example of someone who mistakes attitude and posing with acting.
I think it's the biggest pr coup in the world that she has managed to stay relevant for OVER THREE DECADES.
And I couldn't disagree more about Julia Roberts - the ones known for "movie star charisma" are almost always underrated as actors. But she was best in show in Closer.
I agree, R165. Demi was pretty bad.
No, R165, that was Clive Owen.
Well, let's just say it definitely was NOT Jude Law or Oscar nominated Portman.
"Jennifer 3 Faces Fucking Lopez! Face one pout, face two scowl, face 3 try and look like she's in love but it comes across like she has just woken up"
That makes her a better actor than Tom Cruise, who has only two facial expressions: The toothy grin, and the intense glare (below).
The camera loves Cruise, for some unfathomable reason, but he's not an actor, he's a movie star.
Scarlet Johannson, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Chris Hemsworth, Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock, George Clooney, Keanu Reeves, Ben Stiller .. the actors who can act list would be shorter.
Yeah, Hollywood can make a movie about slavery but in 2014 a black top actress like Viola Davis has to play second fiddle next to JLo, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock, the Gyllenhaals and Hugh Jackman. Appalling!
R162 Really, what was that like? Although in an Esquire interview, Jack Nicholson said "You go into that editing room and there is empirical evidence of what you've done. And no matter how good they say you are, well over half of what you do is pure shit."
R151 The thing I can't stand about Tobey Maguire is he sounds like the spotty teenager from The Simpsons (the one who's seen working at places like Krustyburger)
Hilarious, R158 - I thought of this exact thread when I saw 12 YEARS A SLAVE, and R53's apt description of him sucking the air out every scene. When he shows up in 12YaS, the film grinds to a halt, and you're left wondering what the hell he's even doing there. His acting is so bad the character ceases to make any sense. Pitt can be good at times but easily half of his performances are sub-par.
As for Dane Cook, is he even an actor anymore? That's a name I haven't heard in years.
And the fat lady who was Kristie McNichol's Mom.
It seems a lot of good actors become bad actors once they become a "star." I think the reason is they lose connection to anyone other than themselves and their own egos, and can no longer play characters because they have no real idea of how people other than themselves behave, think etc. Thus, they end up essentially playing themselves, or fall back onto repeating the one role that they did well/won them awards etc. I also think children of actors tend not to be good actors, because again they grow up in an entitled environment where encounters with average people only include "the help." And a lot of actors today are biz brats.
Ben Affleck (see Sum of All Fears, he was awful!)
R180 For example?
R12: PLEASE TAKE NOTE:
Both men and women are called actors in this day and age. The term "actress" for women was dropped years ago. By female actors, themselves.
"Actress" is only used by old fairies over the age of 60. Try to keep up, gramps..
I maybe in the minority, but Edward Norton. His performances are hallow to me.
I don't get Channing Tatum at all. I don't see him as an actor or a movie star. He doesn't come off as either. I don't get charisma or personality from him. He just seems like a college jock who ventured into movies and was lucky. I also think Hollywood spends too much time on "hot" people and less time on actual talent. Dustin Hoffman is not a great looking guy, but he's an incredible actor. I would never spend money to see Channing Tatum, but I would for Hoffman or Gene Hackman. Because I know I'm going to get an incredible performance.
[quote]Edward Norton. His performances are hallow to me
YOU'RE FUCKING WELCOME, ACOLYTE.
Leonardo Dicaprio is a good example of an actor who started out great and is now just ok. He has an incredible career though, for someone who is so mediocre.
Julia Roberts - I could point to a few key scenes in Closer where she did act the shit out of the role, especially when she says, "I disgusting." I love this breakup scene. This movie is probably the best acting Julia Roberts has ever done.
I use to think Jeremy Renner was limited to the stoic or psycho, but his final scene with Bale in American Hustle was a revelation. I found his break down totally convincing and was sorry the camera followed Bale out of the door, rather than staying on Renner and his family.
I agree with you R192. I literally fell in love with Leo this year with his triple threat of movies - Django, Gatsby and Wolf. He is far from mediocre and he has never won an Oscar. He was amazing in Revolutionary Road as well. I think he has only gotten better as he has aged. Less hammy, and more grounded.
Not only has r190 not seen Django, she hasn't seen Wolf of Wall St. either.
You can point out all you want, R191, but it's a well known "secret" in the business that JR can't act. She is a big name, still, and made a lot of $ for Hollywood, which is why she's still working.
Is Kellan Litzy considered an actor?
I am not saying she is the best actor out there r198. But saying she can't act is inaccurate. I would agree she is limited in what she can do as are 90% of all actors to be honest. Mike Nichols did however get an amazing performance out of her.
The gold standard for not being able to act one's way out of a paper bag is currently held by Carrie Underwood. Sure, we can all quibble about actors not being convincing, etc. But when one says that Miss Underwood can not act one means, literally, that she is utterly incapable of it (or at least has not yet begun to learn how).
I done read all my lines off the prompter, R201, even the long hard words, and I done hardly blink at all.
Carrie Underwood doesn't count.
Heather Graham owns this thread.
Fuckability can get you far as an "actor".
Jonah Hill. Can someone please explain his appeal to me?
He makes people feel more secure about their looks.
Jonah Hill I do not get. Is he supposed to be a type of Paul Giamatti (sp)? Because Giamatti is a great actor.
KRISTIN WIIG. horrendous. same person in every movie. when are the studios going to get hip to this fact?
[quote]But saying she can't act is inaccurate.
I have my reasons when I say I don't think she can act.
You can like her. It makes no difference to me.
I would agree with Julia Roberts except Mystic Pizza, Pretty Woman - she was pretty good in them. Looks good - well, maybe just channeling her true bitch! - in previews of Osage County, although I am sure the film sucks.
I think the studios have already caught on, R209. She was already overexposed on SNL. She's undeniably funny, but limited, and not an actor.
BRIDESMAIDS was a huge success (if uneven and overrated) because of the combo of Kristin and all those comic women, particularly Melissa McCarthy. Kristin cannot carry a movie, as her unsuccessful follow up proved.
I think there is a Peter Principle of actors. Once you've been them do XXXX that was beyond their scope, you can't stand to look at them again.
Tom Hanks as Forrest Gump
Rosie O'Donnell as a retarded person
Russell Crowe as a troubled genius
Josh Harnett in Pearl Harbor
Michael Douglas as a male romantic lead
The entire Sheen and Estevez clan
Jennifer Aniston and George Clooney could not act their way out of a paper bag.
r206 YES!!!! Why does he keep getting work, along with inter changable andy samberg and jesse eisenberg, seth rogen and carmen electra.
And Rosie O'Donnell. If acting as though her cooch is infected with a viral strain of donkey thrush then she owns the patent on angry bull dyke character actress....
r214 nailed it. btw, i can't initiate a post unless i'm a member, right?
i hate when people talk about george clooney like he's the second coming of christ. he's NOT that good looking and he's NOT that great of an actor. a friend said something similar about brad pitt and why paul walker wasn't a big or a bigger star than him since he's just as talented (?) and a lot more handsome.
Brad Pitt and George Clooney are great playing in their comfort zone as a leading man. There is a reason they are stars, they have star power on screen.
Neither one is a acting talent in the sense of being able to portray a wide variety of characters, but I wouldn't say they can't act, because they are good at a specific type of acting.
And no, not everyone can do what they do. Take someone like Liam Hemsworth, Taylor Lautner and Kellan Lutz I can think of off the top of my head and who all had their pushed into being a leading man and who all failed utterly with critics noting they don't have screen presence.
r13 He was good in "Ali."
[quote]And I couldn't disagree more about Julia Roberts - the ones known for "movie star charisma" are almost always underrated as actors. But she was best in show in Closer.
Yes, the ones known for movie star charisma are often underrated. They make it look easy.
As for Best in Show in Closer - we beg to differ. \t
"Jonah Hill. Can someone please explain his appeal to me?"
He's funny, has good timing, and can be effective in a narrow range of roles. People here hate him because he committed the unpardonable sin of not being handsome.
S Z Sakall. Enough with the hands on your fat cheeks! When will it stop?
Josh Hartnett owns this thread in perpetuity.
DL fave Colton Haynes shuts it down
He can't lotion either!
r227, bitch how dare you
I think Pitt USED to have charisma to burn. But either he got lazy, or he lost it, and now just seems to coast on his reputation.
[quote]Yes, the ones known for movie star charisma are often underrated. They make it look easy.
Tell me about it! That's my huge problem!
Not because they can't act, but because subtlety and a natural characterization doesn't always come easy to them and seems so overly thought out. They Act with a capital A. Look at me, I'm Acting! Actors revere them above others, especially those who don't really understand the craft. Hamminess and mechanics hold more weight than spontaneity and relaxation....and simply being.
R235: those are two absolutely ludicrous examples. If DDL & La Streep are bad actors, then the whole industry of movie-making should just close up shop.
Neither Pitt nor Clooney have acting abilities. They became movie stars because of their looks and because they know how to remain in the spotlights (Showmancing and exploitation of children-Pitt) Clooney comes from a showbiz background. Calling them charismatic is a joke. Pitt is dumb as a door nail and both cant act if their life depended on it. I can't think of a single Alister who is a good actor (except for maybe RDJ, but he hasn't been AList for that long)
Kendrick has some talent but I find her annoying
Ice T, although he's doing well raking in the money from NBC for years.
Fuck you, OP
Taye Diggs. Good looking, charismatic, gorgeous smile. Cannot act for shit.
Shemar Moore. A gorgeous man, but even on something like Criminal Minds he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
Dicaprio is one of the few A lsiters who has some talented, otherwise most range from average to bad. Pitt is terrible.
James Dean was pretty bad.
"Shemar Moore. A gorgeous man, but even on something like Criminal Minds he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag."
Tom Cruise is a good actor. He makes poor role choices, but he could practically start a school.
Cruise is good at playing one thing - the character of Tom Cruise. In any other role he's completely inauthentic.
Adrienne Barbeau. People were so busy looking at her tits that they didn't notice she sounded like she was reading the phone book.
DDL never gets to a good performance with playfulness or looseness, his acting is almost like some forceful mind manipulation he had to go through for months to get into the mindset of his character. I wonder if he is able to improvise.
He is not a bad actor but somehow it's always a bit stiff with him.
Streep had this reputation and she just rides with it. She is a mainstream darling.
But My Beautiful Laundrette? It may depend on the material. I couldn't stand Gangs of New York, him incl. While in Room with a View, he was unrecognizable (as in I didn't realize it was him until the credits rolled) which is a plus for me.
Roberts won't go down as the actress of her generation or anything, but I think say she can't act is unfair. Although I don't think Closer was her best work because she was so underwhelming next to Portman and Owen, she was the only good thing about AOC this year.
I feel the same way about DiCaprio. Capable, but nothing special.
Brad Pitt can't act.
An aside: My roommate is getting his ass pounded in the next room. Ugh! He's not atteactive. Must be a rentboy. I'm trapped!!!
Damn spell check! Attractive.
Roberts is not a bad actress, she was amazing in Charlie Wilson's War.
Paging Miss Streisand
Samuel L. Jackson.
The rest of the cast of "Friends"
Jennifer Lopez. .. And she can't sing or dance or judge, either.
[quote]Roberts is not a bad actress, she was amazing in Charlie Wilson's War.
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"an amazing number of people registered"
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I am surprised that Nichole Kidman has not been mentioned. She lacks chemistry with her fellow actors, is unable to emote, and does not particularly engage the viewer.
To me, the definition of 'an actor who can't act' is someone, who's essentially playing him or herself all the time - only with slightly better lines and a more interesting personality.
Roberts was also good in Confessions of a dangerous Mind.
There are actresses around who are a lot worse than her.
No matter what he plays Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise. The man is incapable of disappearing into a character.
[quote]There are actresses around who are a lot worse than her.
Maybe, but did they make $20 mil. per picture?
Yes, there are shitty actors galore, but this woman used to be a top paid Hollywood actor and she's beyond mediocre.
I take Roberts anytime over Bullock, Portman, Witherspoon, Lawrence, E. Stone, Jolie, Garner, and I don't even like her.
I don't think whether or not you can disappear into a character says anything about the ability to act. Many people only are versions of themselves but on screen they're authentic. They're believable in the given circumstances and persuasive that they're feeling what they're feeling, want what they want, and are engaged with the people who mean something to them. The ability to do that has as much to do with acting as the ability to be "different" or "someone else" in a role.
George Clooney is always just George Clooney, with the exception of "Oh, Brother, Where Art Thou?"
He shows absolutely no acting talent. He is the Cary Grant of our time.
[R278] - is "Cary Grant of our time" supposed to insult Clooney? Because Cary Grant was brilliant.
Again, acting isn't proving you can be someone other than yourself. Being yourself on camera is also acting. Many can't do it. Acting is being believable in imaginary circumstances. Grant could do it. Clooney can't.
I see your point R279, and will concede regarding Cary Grant. I've never been a big fan of his work, because he was always more of a "pretty face" kind of actor to me. But the idea of being believable in imaginary circumstances is well-stated.
"Grant could do it. Clooney can't."
Don't agree. I actually think Clooney is a better actor than Cary was (although I do love Cary)
I don't know how anyone can think that Clooney can act after seeing Gravity.
[quote]I am surprised that Nichole Kidman has not been mentioned. She lacks chemistry with her fellow actors, is unable to emote, and does not particularly engage the viewer.
She was outstanding in "Australia" and had perfect screen chemistry with Hugh Jackman.
Samuel L. Jackson
I thought Nicole was terrible in Australia (and I have liked her in other things)
Nicole was pretty good in "Rabbit Hole" but she was playing a cold, passive-aggressive bitch so.....
Keanu Reeves owns this thread.
Heather Graham bought this thread from Keanu Reeves.
J Lo is gawd awful too. ugh!
Seth Rogen - in the real world, he couldn't get a job at the Starbucks in his 'hood of Kerrisdale. But Hollywood isn't the real world. . .
Clooney is only capable of playing George Clooney.
Nicole Kidman is a cipher, not even present enough to be dull, or not engaging. Her career is an utter mystery to me.
Stop talking about Clooney and JLo and Keanu and Heather Graham! Talk about ME!!!!
[quote]Her career is an utter mystery to me.
She was Tammy Cruises arm piece for 10 years!
Kidman was great and hilarious in To Die For.
Kidman was fantastic in To Die For, and Dogville. Few actresses could have played either part the way she did.
Anne Hathaway. I just don't get her in any role she's ever been in. Very unconvincing actress. Thought she was the worst thing in Les Miz.
Gina Gershon - Wooden. Just. Wooden.
Neve Campbell & Katherine Heigl - see Gershon
Madonna & J Lo: Stick to singing. Or whatever you call that thing you do.
Keanu - I know this was posted 100x already. But it bears repeating. Exponentially.
Dianna Agron can't act her way out of a paperbag. Close-mouthed mumbling, constant smiling (the Hilarie Burton school of 'acting'), blank eyes, and two facial expressions.
Keanu Reeves and Jennifer Aniston own this thread.