- Jean Genet was a prostitute, and wrote about it.
- Interesting Wikipedia about Steven Antin. I never knew any of that. I''m kind of looking forward to Burlesque (which he''s directing).\
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Why do you think he was a kept boy? It says he dated David Geffen for a year (and introduced him to Mom). Was that the "kept" situation or where there others?
- Oh sorry OP. I misread about Joey Stefano. Interesting story.
- You''re right, r2: Antin was only attracted to David Geffen because David was such a hunky dreamboat and because the two of them had so much in common
- Al Pacino\
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Aaron Carter, but I dont think he''s a former yet.
- [quote]We know Steven Antin (of THE GOONIES) used to be Joey Stefano''s keptboy\
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Are you sure you don''t want to revise that sentence?
- Fascinating interview with Joey Stefano. Was he the most gorgeous porn star ever?? He had such an innocent quality about him, and not some egomaniacal and arrogant personality that one might expect from such a beautiful guy. Seriously, what a waste.\
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I could do without the creepy narrator, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0qA0WCVXuM
- J. Depp was N. Cage''s "delivery boy"\
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- Sorry: I meant David Geffen''s keptboy, not Joey Stefano''s.\
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OP
- More about Johnny Depp and Nick Cage!
- I wish I was pretty enough to be kept. I''m really over this whole ''work'' thing.
- More on Pacino.
- I was never cute enough to be kept, but now I have money so I keep one of my own. No games, no false pretense, it just is what it is.
- Wasn''t Tom Cruise a gay mafia boy toy?
- Clint Eastwood was the kept boy of director Arthur Lubin\
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Lee Majors was Rock Hudson''s kept boy
- [quote] There are many rumors Robert Gant from QAF used to be a WeHo kept boy before he made it (sort of) big as an actor.\
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Gant was an attorney before switching to acting.
- Joey Stefano was kept by William Ivey Long.\
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Robert Mitchum certainly hustled - he fucked Clifton Webb for a time.\
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Alain Delon was kept by Visconti.
- James Dean was the kept boy of some director. Forget his name.
- r16, he didn''t make it big instantly after leaving the law. It took him a while to get good work. In that period, he (supposedly) was kept by a rich boyfriend. Or so rumor has had it on DL.
- Johnny Depp and Nick Cage? Never heard that one before. Nick is 1 yr older than Johnny, isn''t the kept ''boy'' significantly younger than their trick?
Just asking, cause I don''t know shit
- Really, you can''t just throw out the name "Al Pacino" and leave us hanging!
- Al Pacino admit he was a male prostitute in Sicily when he was a starving actor there in his 20s... BUT (and this is the highly unlikely part) he wants us to believe his only clients were older women.
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/10/12/al_pacino_s_gigolo_past
- Wasn''t Matt Nye kept by Jann Wenner until they decided Matt could be a fashion designer?
- R22, it wasn''t only women. Pacino probably should have kept his mouth shut.
- Robert Gant has a J.D. from Georgetown University, arguably one of the best, and certainly one of the most exclusive law schools in the world. He began his legal career at Clifford Chance, an international law firm of staggering proportions. \
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I am certain his starting salary was at least 200K 20 years ago.
- I was a kept boy in my late 20''s, early 30''s. At first, it seemed very flattering that someone would find me attractive enough to just pay for everything and take me to many, many wonderful places. He was/is in the design field in Paris and had really exquisite taste and liked beautiful things. Then I realized that I was just another exotic possession for him. He made all the decisions and everything revolved around his schedule.\
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I really loved him, still do, but I feel liberated in living my own life and going my own way.
Jude
- Hey when I was younger and cuter and someone older and not too bad looking wanted to buy me shiny things just to suck my cock, who am I to say no! Why give away what cha can sell!!!
That''s my corner bitch!!
- Who did Diller keep?
- I find it hard to believe that Joey Stefano ever had enough money to keep himself, much less anyone else. The boy was a drug fiend and he was certainly not wealthy by any imagination. What money he had went to the dope dealers.
- William Ivey Long did not keep Joey Stefano. In fact the only way he could afford Joey Stefano at the time was if a friend or friends paid for it. William put what money he had into real estate, not hustlers. He did have a thing for Joey Stefano and yes JS was gifted to William on a few occasions. What ever you can say about WIL, he is not dumb with money.
- Exactly, R29. And I don''t ever remember him seeming at all innocent. Trashy bottom, more like it, but innocent? No.
- Thanks for that, Jude. What an earth shattering revelation.
- [quote]Al Pacino admit he was a male prostitute in Sicily when he was a starving actor there in his 20s... BUT (and this is the highly unlikely part) he wants us to believe his only clients were older women.
It was Sicily in the 1960s. You seriously think he'd still be amongst the living if he was openly hustling guys?
[quote]Wasn't Matt Nye kept by Jann Wenner until they decided Matt could be a fashion designer?
I wouldn't say Nye was "kept" - more like a full-on trophy boyfriend/partner from the get-go. (Certainly Nye used his connections via Wenner to enter the fashion field, however.) "Kept" boys are usually a secret and little more than a prostitute, and are disposed of after a few years. Wenner and Nye have been partnered for 15 years and have three children together (in addition to the three Wenner had with his ex-wife).
[quote]I am certain his starting salary was at least 200K 20 years ago.
That's patently ridiculous. Even today the highest starting salaries for law grads are about $180K, and that's if you went to Harvard or Yale. The average 20 years ago was $85K. Plus, Georgetown's not *that* good a school regardless (currently ranked #14 on the U.S. News list).
[quote]Who did Diller keep?
I met one of Diller's kept men once, and learned details about him via a mutual friend. He was stunningly attractive: Aryan god-like (tall, blond, very muscular), and also extremely sophisticated in areas such as fashion and fine dining. I don't know the exact details of their arrangement, but Diller provided him with a stunning condo and mainly only required his company on holidays. (Obviously Diller does not squire his kept men to events, since he has his, ahem, wife for that purpose.) Diller also didn't mind that he had a full-time, much younger (I think 19 or 20) boyfriend on the side, but Diller made it clear that his own needs took priority. When Diller ended things, he let the guy keep the condo as a parting gift, and also set him up with a senior-level job at one of his companies.
- Google Clifford Chance please, R33, they dwarf Jones, Day.
- Did I say otherwise, R34? That doesn''t mean they pay more. The top-tier firms pay starting associates the same amounts, and if any of them raises the rates, every other top-tier firm follows in lockstep.
R33
- R33, when Diller was running Fox Studios, he had more than a few actors on his payroll.\
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Wasn''t Hugh Jackman one of them.\
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I know Diller is friends with his current boyfriend.
- Oh, well, if Georgetown is ONLY currently ranked 14th, then its law school grads must NOT make anywhere near what the TOP schools'' grads make.\
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I''ve never even been anywhere near Georgetown and I still think R33 is a pompous ass who doesn''t know shit and has to have the last word about everything, even to the point of making stuff up.
- Lawyers consider Georgetown one of the best, and if you want to be a professor at any decent law school it''s a good bet you will lose if your LLM is from someone else and your competition''s is.
- Clifford Chance isn''t a top tier US law firm. Google it again. It''s number 2 or 3 in the world.
- [quote]Oh, well, if Georgetown is ONLY currently ranked 14th, then its law school grads must NOT make anywhere near what the TOP schools'' grads make.\
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Sigh. First-year associate salaries are a matter of public record. Harvard & Yale are currently around $180K. Georgetown is around $160K. Google it if you don''t believe me. I happen to know all this because my mother is an attorney and managing partner at her firm, and every year brings a new round of complaints about how they''ll have to raise salaries yet again to bring in top talent.\
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R36, it''s my understanding that Diller avoids dating or even one-time fucking actors or anyone under his employ out of fear of a lawsuit, either for sexual harassment or "palimony." Ditto David Geffen and the rest of the Velvet Mafia.
- r36, you mean Diller is friends with his own current BF or Hugh''s BF (who is obviously friends with the velvet mafia)?
- r39, Georgetown ranks 14 of the top 14 every year. No big deal. I even go to a better school.\
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Clifford Chance is originally a British firm, but has a big presence internationally. Jones day is based in Ohio and has also grown internationally in recent years. I think the two are about equal in reputation, but well below the ranks of Cravath, Wachtell or Sullivan & Cromwell.
- That was Nicholas Ray, R18.
- Wasn''t Steven Antin the hot, hetero jock in "The Last American Virgin"?
- The oft quoted example is Alexis, the Baron de Rede, who was working in an antique shop in L.A. when Arturo Lopez-Wilshaw gave him the enticement of a million dollars to join him in Europe. And that was in 1946 when a million truly was a king''s ransom.
http://www.noveporte.it/dandy/dandies/img/derede1.jpg
- Denham Fouts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denham_Fouts
- Anyone read Charles Isherwood''s Stefano bio?
- John Derek was kept by Spencer Tracy.
You could make Spence cry by calling him a c*cks*cker...
- Do you mean the one titled "Wonder Bread", or something, R47?\
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Yes, I read it several years ago
- Harold Acton''s memoir of Nancy Mitford quotes an amusing letter of hers about some Parisan screamer who had unbuttoned his shirt at a society dinner party in the ''50s to expose a ruby tassel running down his back with the words: "not bad for a working girl".\
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A Room In Chelsea Square, a roman a clef by Michael Nelson about his experience of being kept by Peter Watson, the arts philanthropist, is every entertaining. Watson could be Machiavellian, and it has some great moments.
- Who has slept with Diller to get ahead?
- R25 - Just accept you''re wrong about Gant''s salary, R33 is absolutely correct. Starting salaries among the top 20 firms aren''t vastly different. \
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And Georgetown Law is well respected, but it''s not bow-worthy. \
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And I thought that Gant was an attorney in LA - there is no Clifford Chance office in LA. I thought he worked for a 2nd tier firm.
- whoa!! what a thread.
- R49 "Wonder bread and Extacy" that was the title of the bio
- R25 - starting salaries TODAY at major law firms is around $160K and certainly wasn''t $200K 20 years ago.
- Hugh Jackman''s "business partner"
- Oh, shut up about law firms and lawyer''s salaries. No one cares but you two idiots.\
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We want to know about kept boys.
- Christopher Atkins was a "trick du jour" until his beauty faded and Travolta''s career was on the skids until he dated a well connected attorney. He got appearances on award shows, when he had done nothing for years, and out of the blue, landed Grease.
- "He got appearances on award shows, when he had done nothing for years, and out of the blue, landed Grease."\
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Uh, Saturday Night Fever came out a year before Grease did so he hadn''t been doing nothing for years
- Wasn''t Travolta on a TV show not long before Saturday Night Fever?
- And he was the star of the incredibly popular Welcome Back Kotter in the 1970''s, which was his stepping stone to Hollywood.
- R56, he apparently fucked Barry Diller and other Hollywood execs as well before Hugh came along.
- Who else fucked Barry Diller?
- I repeat. What famous boys fucked Diller to get ahead?
- I''m sure plenty.
- r43, Nicholas Ray was fucking Natalie Wood and Sal Mineo. I can''t imagine he had time to keep James Dean.
- Ray fucked underage boys, but when his own underage son got fucked (by Gloria Grahame, Ray''s wife at the time), he was livid. \
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I have a headache trying to keep all these fuckings straight.
- Associates do not get paid according to what law school they graduated from. The law firms are run pretty much like monopolies. They almost all have the same salary steps within the same city or within the same region. Obviously top law school grads get into the top tier law firms but a first year associate is a first year associate. \
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No firm starts their first year associates at $200,000 today (probably not even if you include bonuses) let alone 20 years ago. Twenty years ago maybe $60,000 - $75,000 in the big cities but memory dims. The big law firms can be very creative with fabulous perks however. They may hire you as a higher year associate (e.g., third year) and that would put you higher on the salary/bonus scale.\
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Do not envy these young graduates. They earn every penny they make while working hellish hours. Of course, I''m not sure there''s all that much work nowadays.
- [quote]I have a headache trying to keep all these fuckings straight.\
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Welcome to my world.
Jennifer Aniston
- [quote]He began his legal career at Clifford Chance, an international law firm of staggering proportions. \
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Mary!!!
- r62, WOW. How about Bryan Singer or Geffen?
- [quote]Associates do not get paid according to what law school they graduated from\
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No one.\
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Fucking.\
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CARES!!\
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Why not start your own thread instead of derailing this one, which isn''t about what you keep posting about.
- [quote]I met one of Diller's kept men once, and learned details about him via a mutual friend. He was stunningly attractive: Aryan god-like (tall, blond, very muscular), and also extremely sophisticated in areas such as fashion and fine dining. I don't know the exact details of their arrangement, but Diller provided him with a stunning condo and mainly only required his company on holidays. (Obviously Diller does not squire his kept men to events, since he has his, ahem, wife for that purpose.) Diller also didn't mind that he had a full-time, much younger (I think 19 or 20) boyfriend on the side, but Diller made it clear that his own needs took priority. When Diller ended things, he let the guy keep the condo as a parting gift, and also set him up with a senior-level job at one of his companies[/quote]
Interesting story. About 10 years ago, I was at a private gay party in Santa Fe. There was a beautiful tall blonde guy flirting with me (I didn't go for it, sorry that I didn't), but at the same time, Barry Diller (he's very short, btw) was checking me out. I didn't go for Barry either, because I left early, wonder if this is the blonde guy that Barry hooked-up with?
- Is Diller generous? If you fuck him does he reward you?
- Yes, r74.
- Travolta got his start on "Welcome Back, Cotter".
- this whole thread was originated by that crazy Anti-Gant troll.
- Singer has kept a lot of boys
- Has Diller made boys careers?
- Yes.
- Yawn. The pissing contest about Georgetown and (insert Ivy League name)bores me. Keep the thread about hustlers. Btw, my brother-in-law went to Brooklyn Law School and is worth big, big money. Only silly queens give a shit about reputations. So ridiculous.\
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Blue Agave once mentioned here that Brad Renfro was alleged to have "worked" for Joel Schumacher when the former was a child. Eww. Renfro also hustled Bryan Singer.
- Who R80?
- R81 \
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Who is Blue Agave and were did he get that perverse shit about Brad Renfro and Joel Schumacher? That''s just disgusting! :(
- Keanu was probably kept by Gallin, then Geffen. Maybe used but not kept?
- On second thought, Keanu probably did all the using. He''s rather good at it.
- Brad Renfro had a sad life. If he never got into drugs, would he have been OK?
- [quote]Yawn. The pissing contest about Georgetown and (insert Ivy League name)bores me. \
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Mary!
- Doesn''t Barry Diller have an enormous schwanzestucker?
Lili von Schtupp
- John Palermo owns this thread.
- This thread was a lot more interesting when it focused on fantasies about rent boys instead of fantasies about law school rankings.
- ''Harold Acton''s memoir of Nancy Mitford quotes an amusing letter of hers about some Parisan screamer who had unbuttoned his shirt at a society dinner party in the ''50s to expose a ruby tassel running down his back with the words: "not bad for a working girl".''\
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I''m trying to envision this. Was it a tattoo or a real tassel, and if the latter was it really made of rubies? Why a tassel? Did he say the words "not bad for a working girl" or was that part of the tattoo? And why was it on his back?
- R83 = straight frau
- I prefer the law scholl discussion to the more obvious and recurrent thread hijacking of whether Jake Gyllenalwhatever is gay.\
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But please, more about Christopher Watkins!
- Please more about the salaries of first year associates. I''m fascinated. Any eligibles in Mass or D.C.? \
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We know all there is to know about kept boys and male prostitutes. After all, darling, we are all whores.
- "Alain Delon was kept by Visconti."\
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Link please
- Ryan P. was a kept boy.
- Who is Ryan P., r96?
- Ifyou don''t know Keanu Reeves was an experienced user of the casting couch, you are apparently stupid.
- I''d just like to say how laughable it is that once again Josh Kilmer-Purcell starts a thread hawking his book, he gets vilified, then obviously defends himself under various guises, then - yet again- the webmaster closes the thread immediately after he/she/it/josh gets a huffy defensive last word.\
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Obviously someone at Mediopolis knew Josh when he was a whore.\
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I know, wrong thread, but the cunt that runs this site closed that thread.
- To r94, I just graduated from a top 10 law school and the job market is still not good.\
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The salary is at 160,000 annually if you get into big law firms. But what used to be almost 100% employment offer rate now went down to less than 50%, and in recent years not every student (probably also less than 1/2) gets a summer association position. So chances are most people who want a big law job can''t get one directly out of law school. Smaller firms or public services do not pay half as good. \
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It really sucks. It wasn''t easy to get into a top 10 law school in the first place. Many had good paying jobs before jumping into law school.\
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Additionally, the 160K salary comes with 100K student loan and at least 10 hours billable hours per day. In the end, not a good investment with the current economic situation.
- Barry Diller is hot. I would fuck him just for the fun of it.\
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A very sexy man.
- Matt Bomer\
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David Burtka\
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Reichen Lemkuhl\
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Matt Nye\
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David Geffen''s latest twinkie
- Ryan Seacrest was Merv Griffin''s protege, but that''s not like being a prostitute or anything.
I think
- Teddy C used to be Bruce Vilanch''s kept boy? That''s pretty desperate.
- "Ryan Seacrest was Merv Griffin''s protege, but that''s not like being a prostitute or anything."\
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I assure you it isn''t. It''s worse.
Alex Trebek
- Merv fucked Alex Trebek?
- Who was Burtka''s partner before Neil? He even had a kid with that man ...
- Wasn''t David Burtka''s former partner wealthy - I mean like "an heir to a fortune" wealthy?
- r26 Jude how did you meet him?
- Does anyone know about the relationship between Will Smith and his manager Benny Medina? In fact there''s been a lot of stories about record company execs and young rappers that will do whatever it takes to be famous.
- R110, I heard Will fucked Medina--and Quincy Jones. But you didn''t hear that from me.\
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Medina is slept with many of his male clients.\
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Him getting his hands on Will, who himself is a whore, shouldn''t be all that surprising.
- Benny Medina is a big queen but Quincy is totally straight
- r111: Who were some of Benny Medina''s other male clients?
- knew a guy kept by Bryan Lourd. When the guy wanted to end the relationship, Lourd said to him "people like you don''t break up with people like me"-- DOH!
anon
- "Al Pacino admit he was a male prostitute in Sicily when he was a starving actor there in his 20s... BUT (and this is the highly unlikely part) he wants us to believe his only clients were older women."\
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Why?\
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Straight gigolos abound in areas of Europe where wealthy older women live and vacation, such as Sicily.
- James Lipton has all but admitted he was a young prostitute.
- Read between the lines in Anne Heche''s autobiography. She intimates that Richard Burgi was putting out for Doug Marland and other powerful men in the soap opera world in order to get work as an actor while they were living together and engaged. I believe it although the woman is batshit crazy!
- "James Lipton has all but admitted he was a young prostitute."\
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Some things never change, they just get older.
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I would''ve said "Yeah, well people like you don''t marry people with vaginas. But you did. And I AM breaking up with you."
- Stephen Dorff used to swing shopping bags around Athens, GA that had been stuffed to the brim with money from MICHAEL STIPE!
- For 109:
I was in Paris for Christmas vacation after spending a year abroad in Rome. We met at the IDM Baths of all places. We had a great time there and then continued on to his apartment. The next day I checked out of my hotel and spent the rest of my time with him. When my departure day arrived, he actually cried and asked me to stay -- which I did for the next three years.
He was very smart and well-connected in the Paris design world. We went out constantly and I was really just there for him to show off -- most of his friends didn't really talk to me. So, it was exciting to go to all of these nice restaurants and parties, but kind of lonely too.
He changed my outlook on life, my aesthetic, and when I got out on my own and started an art gallery and bought my own home, so much of their concept and collection were an extension of what I learned from him.
So yeah, I was with him because I had a beautiful face and body, with a nice big dick, but I got lots of things – other than money – in return too.
Jude
- Tony Danza, Bruce Willis, Vin Diesel. Those I know for sure.
- "Stephen Dorff used to swing shopping bags around Athens, GA that had been stuffed to the brim with money from MICHAEL STIPE!"\
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Michael has "kept" a lot of young, cute guys
- I read some interesting rumors at this site.
http://www.ellensplayground.com/myriverphoenixcollection/keanu.html
- Helmut Berger was the ultimate kept boy.
Luchino V.
- I have a friend who was a Diller favorite in the early 80''s, R33. He was a tall, blonde dancer. Barry was very generous, and they stayed friends after they split. Barry also paid some of his medical bills when he was dying of AIDS.
- Any rumors about Kurt Cobain?
animals under the bridge
- More on Michael Stipe, please.
- I am kept by my partner right now if you really want to get technical about it...yes, it is true.
- bump
- Which other actors are bisexual or gay and formerly kept or male prostitutes?
- Why would Nicholas Cage ever be a prostitute? He is the son of one of the most wealthy and powerful producer/directors in Hollywood. Were the Rockefeller sons prostitutes too?
- r132, not that it might be the case with Nicolas Cage, but some guys from wealthy and powerful families escort just to spite their high class families or are at one point cut off from the lavish lifestyle they are used to and strapped for cash while not used to a moderate lifestyle.
- Nic Cage was also fucking ugly until he had plastic surgery after his first few years in show business. No one is going to pay for ugly.
- Hey Jude, nice to see you''re making use of that fancy creative writing class you had us pay for. Oh, and remember to keep the basement door closed -- there''s a draft.
Mom and Dad
- Hey R135, Jude here -- ouch! Sorry if you don''t believe the facts of my life. I can assure you that I do not, and never will need to, live in a basement.
Jude
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- [quote]Even the most homophobic countries have plenty of gay action going on! \
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Behind closed doors and with a great deal of protection by men in power. But otherwise there''s hunting season all year for gays and hustlers.
- How could Ted Casablanca be kept by Bruce Vilanch, when they are both the same age?
- The concept of "kept" isn''t necessarily based on age. One partner is wealthy or successful and the other one is not wealthy (and looking for a generous provider) or looking for a chance to get his foot in the buiz.
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- Ted Casablanca belonged to Harvey Fierstein, not Bruce Vilanche.
Somehow I know this but can''t remember where my car keys are
- My father was kept by a very wealthy gentleman while still married to my mother. It was huge scandal in our little New England village. This was in the late 60''s and early 70''s. My dad moved (during the week only, he came home on weekends) about an hour and half away to a larger city to attend graduate school and ended up living with a very flamboyant character in his very lavish apartment. Meanwhile my mother and all 4 of us kids stayed on the farm. The guy used to come home with my father on the weekends and bring us all presents and take my mother shopping. %0D\
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- Yea, that Depp/Cage thingy doesnt make sense. Typically a "kept boy" is kept by someone older and much more successful. Both men''s career starting picking up steam at the same time and they are virtually the same age.
- What''s the story on Colton Haynes?
- I read that Zac Efron''s roommates (he''s rumored to have) are basically kept boys who hope or hoped for being cast in one of his movies (at least one of them got his wish in the 17 Again movie - Sterling Knight?).
- That''s a fascinating family story, R143, How did affect you and your siblings? Did you kids know all along, or were certain proprieties observed?\
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R143
- Suprised nobody mentioned Colin Farrell was kept by Kevin Spacey.
- I think the R121 squeeze was Jean Paul Gaultier
- No more proof needed, that the majority of DLers are senior citizens than this thread. I had to search up who most of these people were.
- R. 134 is right.\
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At least one bad nose job. Chin implant. Bad hair plugs. An eye job. And possibly more. \
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And he''s still nothing to look at.
Park Avenue Plastic Surgeon
- Don Johnson and Jan Micheal Vincent were "kept" by half the queens in Malibu in the 70''s
The late Paul Lynde
- So R143 did you inherit the good looks and huge cock?
- Ted Casablanca has always gotten by looking 15 year younger than he really is. I wonder if Bruce Vilanch knew how OLD he was at that time, or if it mattered.
- [quote]It was Sicily in the 1960s. You seriously think he''d still be amongst the living if he was openly hustling guys?\
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Yes, because, unlike yours, our understanding of Sicilian culture and history doesn''t come from Sophia Petrillo''s monologues.
- [quote]I wonder if Bruce Vilanch knew how OLD he was at that time, or if it mattered.\
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Yet again, Ted/Bruce Bibby didn''t date Vilanch; he is one of Harvey Fierstein''s former partners. Btw you bitches continue to falsely conflate the concept of "kept men" versus simply dating older men who happen to be famous.
- Who is this old guy with Jake G?
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/57809647.html
- Travolta did commercials and bway almost immediately when he seeked work
- [quote]Btw you bitches continue to falsely conflate the concept of "kept men" versus simply dating older men who happen to be famous.\
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Yes, I''m sure hot muscular unknown young Bruce Bibby dated older fat famous Harvey Fierstein for his personality, not for his checkbook. And the same is true for David Geffen''s and Barry Diller''s many younthful studs. Good point!
- "Kept Boy" sound like they were living like Anna Nichol Smith. \
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Really if someone has money and helps their lover out that does not make them a prostitute.\
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Ruppert Everette was a prostitute, as that is what he called himself.
- Colin Ferrel was NOT kept by that old queen Kevin Spacey, moron.
- [quote]Btw you bitches continue to falsely conflate the concept of "kept men" versus simply dating older men who happen to be famous.[/quote]\
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Lol, you sound like a delusional old queen. \
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These young guys are willing to essentially whore themselves out solely because of the benefits of their keepers wealth and power. Sure they might learn to like them in their own way but they are still kept man, don''t delude yourself into thinking it is a normal relationship.
- Is Harley Rodriguez being kept by NKOTB Jonathan Knight?
- Lets talk about the prostitute of the moment, Colton Haynes. Who were his clients besides Zac Quinto?
- Please, nobody outside North America and Europe knows who Colton Haynes is
- R161, what turnip truck did you fall out of? Of course it''s prostitution. Grow a brain.
- r165,He''s friends with Chace Crawford,Jc Chasez,Mathew Morrison and Shawn Pyfrom
- r166, see r151
Everything ain''t for everybody
- Here are pics of Chace Crawfod and Colton Haynes sipping cocktails and gossiping with pals.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chace+crawford+colton+haynes&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=7192l7192l0l7671l1l1l0l0l0l0l193l193l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1024&bih=653&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
- Who do you think Keanu sucked to get ahead? Or do you think all his millions came form his superior acting ability?
- Nick Cage did not have the money to keep Johnny Depp, so don''t be ridiculous.
- "He''s friends with Chace Crawford,Jc Chasez,Mathew Morrison and Shawn Pyfrom"%0D\
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- Thank you r162. Obviously Spacey only introduced Farrell to Joel Schumacher out of the goodness of his heart, and Schumacher gave him top-billing in Tigerland because he had such a large... resume. That Spacey is such a tender heart, always charitably looking out for the younger men. I can''t believe such a catch hasn''t found the right woman yet, LOL, but he does have such high standards and/or has had his heart broken by [INSERT VAGUE EVENT HERE]. Horrible Bosses, in theaters now!! SO FUNNY!!
Please tell me you bitches still understand sarcasm.
- R161 and R163, I think "kept boy" is somewhere in the middle between "prostitute" and "guy with rich lover".%0D\
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I think of prostitutes / escorts as doing everything transaction by transaction, for cash or easily sold gifts - sleep with you for a night, get paid in return.%0D\
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Guys who happen to have rich lovers have a romantic relationship first and foremost (even if the relationship isn''t necessarily one of equals), and the career and monetary benefits are secondary to that. In those cases, there''d never be a case where the guy would be "paid" (in money or gifts) in exchange for having sex.%0D\
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Kept boys straddle the two categories. There''s a shared underlying understanding that the relationship really isn''t romantic. But at the same time, "payment" isn''t as straightforward and transactional - it''s longer-term, and includes things like favors in addition to gifts and "spending money" (instead of direct payment for sex).
- Some of the most obvious kept boys can be seen standing alongside elderly queeny fashion designers.
- Gant isn''t gay, was never kept and has never had sex with a man.
- The best kept boy story was told to me by the elderly boy himself. He was kept by a Swedish baron, and used to yacht with the Swedish Royal Family who called him ''The Little Baron''. But the baron had tin mines in South America, and used to go away for months at a time. One night the boy was sitting on the terrace of the chateau "in one of those endless Swedish twilights, when I saw these animals in the estate Park. I called for one of the servants, and said Erik "What are those cattle?" and he said "Those aren''t cattle sir. Those are reindeer." I said "Reindeer?!!! I''m 18, beautiful, and rotting in fucking Lapland!" He packed his bags and fled to London the next day. King Umberto of Italy also tried to pick him up on the Lido. "Such a gentleman. I was later formally introduced to him in the Savoy Grill. He said, "I believe young man we have met before." I bowed very low, and said ''Yes, Your Majesty, I believe we have!"
- "Obviously Spacey only introduced Farrell to Joel Schumacher out of the goodness of his heart, and Schumacher gave him top-billing in Tigerland because he had such a large... resume"%0D\
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Spacey is such a sleaze, he doesn''t bother helping guys who don''t put out.
- [quote]Obviously Spacey only introduced Farrell to Joel Schumacher out of the goodness of his heart, and Schumacher gave him top-billing in Tigerland because he had such a large... resume.\
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Once again, you''re conflating things, except in this case it''s "kept men" and "fucktoys." Even if we assume Farrell gave up the nappy dugout for Schumacher and Spacey, which I personally doubt but will roll with for argument''s sake, why on *earth* do you think giving him one roll on film and maybe a handful of rolls in the sack equates to him being "kept"? You really don''t think Farrell would''ve told those gross old creeps to sod off at the first possible opportunity?
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- R157 = old fool
- "Nick Cage did not have the money to keep Johnny Depp, so don''t be ridiculous."%0D\
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Did so. Johnny Depp came from white trash, and it wouldn''t have cost much to keep him when he first arrived in Hollywood.
- someone asked but no one replied yes Diller has a giant cock - there is a famous story where he conducted a negotiation with a high powered agent for a movie in a robe with it open and his big dick swinging. Let the high powered agent know just who had the biggest dick in the room.
- r183 There was a scene in the short-lived Jay Mohr sitcom "Dragon" that recreated that anecdote.
- [quote]We know Steven Antin (of THE GOONIES) used to be Joey Stefano's keptboy
This old lesbian was once an object of desire? Surely not.
http://static.lovefilm.com/images/videointerviewimage/f4064845-7b02-45b9-a8ad-0114572fc723/23745/asset.jpg
- [quote]Any rumors about Kurt Cobain?
I know a woman who hung out with Kurt's crowd. She told me the love of his life was a guy named "Marty" and that when Nirvana started getting traction in the industry, Courtney Love moved in. She was known as a fag hag with an agenda. And she knew where to score.
- When Nic Cage cast James Franco in the titular role of Sonny, the story of a male prostitute, I understand a lot of research was done, separately and together, by director and actor.
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why is it that guys named Marty are always edgy and twitchy?
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- Oh Jesus ![R185] I used to have big crush on him after I saw the Last American Virgin. He does look like an old lesbian now, or Bruse Jenner.
- Bruce
- He looks like Lili Taylor.
- R164 Wouldn't surprise me.
- Errors abounding on this thread!
Cage is the nephew of F.F. Coppola, not the son.
The Jay Mohr sitcom was called "Action", not "Dragon".
- Paul Newman, Steve McQueen.
Anon
- Randy Travis hustled before he was discovered and then bearded up with his manager.
- Half, maybe more, of pretty boy celebs have been the protege of an older, wealthy insider. It's always been this way with girls...now it's equal opportunity.
A straight actor friend of mine said that the best advice he'd give young straight guys is to ask a gay friend on how to give a great blow-job.
- Is Taylor Lautner's hole still virgin?
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- [quote]Btw you bitches continue to falsely conflate the concept of "kept men" versus simply dating older men who happen to be famous.
"happen to be famous"???
Honey, buy a clue.
No hot young guy like the young Bruce Bibby @1990 is going to date Harvey Fierstein because the latter's fame in incidental. He's going to date Harvey Fierstein because he's rich and famous and can help his career.
If you have trouble understanding that, may I suggest you have a brain transplanted into the empty cavity in your skull.
- Matt bomer
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- Oh R162, thanks for throwing in "sod off" so we know you're British.
Are you really this wound up over the distinction between "kept boy", "prostitute" and someone you're conceding may well have whored himself out to get role, or two, or more?
And for someone denouncing the conflation of terms, you should know the difference between a role and a roll.
- Chung Ho want to know if Barry Diller is the Fang of the Mrs Phyllis Diller?
Why keep of the famous boys when richer men have many young ones for free or lesser when they are not famous.
How do they not get the AIDS or the clap?
Chung%20Ho
- this is a boring thread for the [childish epithet posted by a bigoted tool] gaylings
- Don Johnson and Jan Michael Vincent were the best looking things in Hollywood in the '70s, they should have been kept.
- And John Lennon kept Paul,George AND Ringo!!!
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- Them and Perry King, R203.
- keep this thread coming
- I have the best kept man. Magnum just loves wearing speedos and short shorts.
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- R205, a crew friend of mine said King was definitely hitting on guys when he worked the set of The Possession of Joel Delaney back in 1971.
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- Thanks to some 'generous gentlemen' in Los Angeles we are now living well in Europe as a happy and financially-independent woman!
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- bump for Janet and her new line of work with said Arab accountant.
- I tricked for cash a few times in my younger days and once had a distinguished old judge offer to put me on the payroll, so to speak. I politely declined. All of the kept boys I've met have been scarily toxic people.
- I think you mean Helmut Berger, r17.
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- Jan Michael Vincent was sex on a stick in the 1970s.
http://www.handsomemasculinemen.com/actors/Jan-Michael-Vincent-Shirtless.jpg
- I've always heard that eventhough he was a high powered executive with a monsterously huge cock(2 things that could easily make a guy an ass)that Barry Diller is supposed to be a pretty nice guy anyone here know if that's true?
- He's a powerful prick, I'll give you that.
- I get the impression that the average former male prostitute is kind of like an old football player/whore considering all the stuff he's put himself through; maybe the wide open shirt with the gaunt aging face with a vague "please fuck me one more time, I won't charge you" look on it; the flattened ass with the cheeks spread too far apart, the only thing he's good for is for young cowboy tops to practice on his well busted-in ass. Is that the image you were looking for OP?
anon
- What's the going price for male prostitutes these days, and where are all the cruisy areas in American cities these days now that fraus have had their take back the park movements. I know they fucked it up here in SD at Balboa Park.
anon
- When I was 13 I was the lover of a man aged 40 for 3 or 4 year. It was lovely and I enjoyed it except he would not put me in a dress and he was not firm enough with me. I did ask if he had any friends he could lend me too or even hire me too but he wanted to keep me for himself. I think I would have made a good male prostitute for a strict master
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