- Rest in peace, Julia.
- Wow -- only 70...
- Dixie at her best.
- Just found it on ET online. Now I feel horrible for badmouthing that DW scene about the night the lights went out in Georgia.
- THIS is the night the lights went out in Georgia.
- R5, you shouldn''t.\
She died from choking. ON THE SCENERY.
- Her continued attempts to live were an EPIC FAIL.
- I just copied and pasted the Lights rant in a thread last week. That was one of the funniest sitcom episodes ever on TV.
- Wasn''t Delta Burke supposed to be the one in everyone''s death pool?
- I can''t believe Betty White is now outliving the DW cast.
- Oh no.\
RIP to a classy lady.
- From an entertainment perspective I will miss her. But she was very conservative in her personal life. She was the opposite of Julia Sugarbaker.
- I can''t believe she died before Hal Holbrook. He seemed a hundred years older than her on "Designing Women."
- What did she die of? 70 is kind of young for someone who wasn''t fat.
- Dixie Carter/Julia Sugarbaker. You made "Designing Women" one of the landmark television shows of all time.\
Peace to you and your family.
Hal Holbrook star of That Evening Sun
- She was a Republican. Glad she''s dead.
- Heart attack or stroke? I can''t believe it. I loved her. RIP Dixie. Poor Hal.
- was hal holbrook also a Republican? It''s hard to see how someone playing the role of Deepthroat would be a repug.
- Yeah, what''d she die of?
- Julia: I'm Julia Sugarbaker, Suzanne Sugarbaker's sister. I couldn't help over hearing part of your conversation.
Marjorie: Well, I'm sorry. I didn't know anyone was here.
Julia: Yes, and I gather from your comments there are a couple of other things you don't know, Marjorie. For example, you probably didn't know that Suzanne was the only contestant in Georgia pageant history to sweep every category except congeniality, and that is not something the women in my family aspire to anyway. Or that when she walked down the runway in her swimsuit, five contestants quit on the spot. Or that when she emerged from the isolation booth to answer the question, "What would you do to prevent war?" she spoke so eloquently of patriotism, battlefields and diamond tiaras, grown men wept. And you probably didn't know, Marjorie, that Suzanne was not just any Miss Georgia, she was the Miss Georgia. She didn't twirl just a baton, that baton was on fire. And when she threw that baton into the air, it flew higher, further, faster than any baton has ever flown before, hitting a transformer and showering the darkened arena with sparks! And when it finally did come down, Marjorie, my sister caught that baton, and 12,000 people jumped to their feet for sixteen and one-half minutes of uninterrupted thunderous ovation, as flames illuminated her tear-stained face! And that, Marjorie — just so you will know — and your children will someday know ---is the night the lights went out in Georgia!
- Wait, Rue is still alive, isn''t she?
- Even harder to believe that someone who played Mark Twain would be a Republican (or a member of any political party).
- Conservative republican. Good riddance, I say.
- Yes, R26.
- Her first husband owned the NY Observer and installed his daughter, Mary Dixie, as editor...yeeeah.
- Yes she is, R26, but she''s only a few years older than Dixie whereas Betty is much older. I''m just shocked how healthy Betty is, God bless her.
- I''ll miss her warbling weak soprano evisceration of the classics!
- Does anyone know where Delta was just before ... you know....?
- I wonder if it was death by toilet clown. . .
- Before you bitches start to bash her politics I want to know if she ever badmouthed us gays.\
THEN I''ll decide if I want to badmouth her.
- She went on O''Reilly, and was a frequent Fox News guest. Fuck her up her cancered ass.
- Well if she were truly a conservative Republican I hope she rotted from the inside out.
- Here''s one link for you, R35.\
http ://www.metroweekly. com/arts_entertainment/concert.php?ak=1040
- Dixie loved the gays R35.\
She was married to George Hearn for shit''s sake!!
- [quote]Before you bitches start to bash her politics I want to know if she ever badmouthed us gays.\
That I don''t know, but as "Julia" she had several pro-gay rants and that reached a lot of people.
- Get the Tivo ready for the Lifetime marathon!
- What a pretenscious, self-involved cunt:
- Prove she loved the gays, R39.
- [quote] Through her work in Designing Women, Carter developed a special bond with the gay community. "I feel like I have enjoyed a friendship and a lasting loyalty from the gay community, " she says. "And when I can, I try to reciprocate that friendship. "
- Single-issue voter, are you, r35?\
If you''re a republican who doesn''t hate gays, you''re still a republican who doesn''t believe in free choice, health care for all, fair taxing, civil rights, and on and on and on
[italic] "I feel like I have enjoyed a friendship and a lasting loyalty from the gay community, " she says. "And when I can, I try to reciprocate that friendship.\
Dixie, on her appearance with Elaine Stritch and Bea Arthur in an AIDS benefit.
- Dixie wasn''t a conservative Repub, she considered herself a Libertarian.\
And she voted for Obama in ''08.
- I didn''t agree with all her politics but onscreen the woman was a marvel. I remember watching the AIDS episode of DW with my Mom. I was ten & didn''t fully understand it; my Mom was in floods of tears at the end.\
I don''t doubt that DW opened a few minds in its day.
- One of the comments on the Insider message board about her death:\
[quote] burn in hell you jew loving hick
- So this is a triad of TV A-list deaths. John Forsythe, Dixie Carter .... and who will be third?
- Was it signed "Delta", R49?
- Let''s not forget that "Designing Women" was also the first prime time comedy to deal with the subject of AIDS.
- The Golden Girls did, R52. Rose had the transfusion, remember?
- Dixie and Delta (another Republican who loves gays) kissed and made up a long, long time ago. That clip of them at r14 was about ten years ago, long after DW was off the air.
- There''s a clip of a pre-DW show called "Filthy Rich" with Dixie & Delta. Anyone remember it?
- Haughty diva.
- [quote]burn in hell you jew loving hick\
Unfortunately that''s only mildly worse than the absolutely disgusting comment R20 made.
- Golden Girls had an episode about AIDS after Designing Women did, R53.\
DW had it in their 2nd season, GG in their 5th season.
- Dead Dixie should wear the comment "burn in hell you jew loving hick" with pride. It''s a sign that she did SOMETHING right in her life.
- Yes I remember "Filthy Rich." I also remember Dixie playing the role of April in the Bess Armstrong-Lynnie Greene sitcom "On Our Own."
- Oops..link in correct place...
- Delta Burke is NOT a Republican, you self-improtant ass hole at R54. \
How dare you just pop off with something like that, which has no factual evidence in reality, just so you sound smart or so it fits something you want to say.\
You fucking ass wipe. This is a somber situation. If you don''t have anything decent or edifying to say, keep your pie grubbing fingers off the keyboard.
- Definitely thought HH would predecease Dixie.
- I heard she finger banged Gary Coleman on the set of Different Strokes. Her finger right up his tight little bung hole.
- R62 = Gerald Macraney
- She sang like an angel. An angel in excruciating pain.
- Oh, it figures that the insane comment at r62 comes from the total mess that is known as misshelenbedd.\
For your information, know-it-all, alcoholic lush, Delta Burke and her husband are both registered Republicans.\
[italic] Burke is married to actor Gerald McRaney since May 28, 1989. They have no children together, although McRaney has adult children from his prior marriages. Burke and McRaney''s primary residence is in Los Angeles, California; they also own a house in Telluride, Colorado and one in New Orleans, Louisiana. They are both registered Republicans. She is also a very successful designer and manager of the clothing company Delta Burke Design in New York City. [/italic]
- HA HA!! R67 just p*wned R62.
- Just because they are registered Republicans doesn''t necessarily mean they vote that way.\
When I first registered to vote almost 30 years ago I registered as ...A REPUBLICAN.\
I never got around to changing it until a couple of years ago, and I re-registered as "decline to state."\
In all those years I never once voted Republican, nor did I ascribe to their ideology.
- OMG, R67. \
Everyone knows that ridiculous statemaster site is a shill for the John Burch society. \
You are either a wiling tool of the right wing, or too ignorant to help.
- Bye Dixie.
- I''m quite saddened by the news, Julia Sugarbaker was a big part of my childhood, never my favorite character, but sooo necessary to the show in order to allow Delta to shine.
Miss Valdosta Feed and Grain
- mhb is a waste of skin.
- Dixie''s father lived with her and Hal. He was still alive a couple of years ago. Anyone know if he still is living?
- I found an article from the WaPo dated April 7, 2010 about Elizabeth Ashley replacing Dixie in a upcoming prod of "Mrs. Warren''s Profession" because Dixie is "recovering from surgery."\
[quote] Dixie Carter, who was originally cast in the role, is recovering from surgery and can''t be ready for rehearsals in May.
- Valdosta! R72 are you in Valdosta? I am!
- Who cares if she was a Republican or not?\
You guys sound like the haters on freeperville.\
- Miss Cindy Birdsong sends her condolences.
- I know Dixie''s daughters. They told me that while their fathers'' friends were always "John and Mary" or "Bill and Susan", their mother''s friends were "Paul and Mike" or "Jim and Jeff", etc. You get the point.\
She was extremely gay-friendly and always was. And she played one of the most unique and memorable characters in television history.\
You hateful cunts posting bile about her really should be ashamed of yourselves. You''re as repulsive as you are ignorant.
- Delta is a well-known Republican, who supports them financially to great lengths.
- It sounds like Dixie''s death was unexpected - a complication from surgery. I wonder what kind of surgery she had? Sometimes it happens.
- you fuckin fraufish who are spreading these vile rumors about Dixie and Delta being Republicans are the same fangirls who think Van Hansis is straight.\
Please take your propaganda back to the Freeper site.
- It''s really about the gays blindly supporting a celebrity because we like them, only to find out years later that they didn''t care about us at all (see Midler and Chenoweth).
- So she had surgery and, according to her husband''s comment, her death was unexpected. What was wrong with her?
- Oh goody. Now the "Chenoweth hates the gays" troll is back.
- "I wonder what kind of surgery she had?"\
Facelift? Shades of Olivia Goldsmith.
- I hate everyone!
President, League of Resentful DLers
- R84 = fangirl trying to confuse gays in a vulnerable state.
- Doubtful, R87. I''d bet cancer.
- And Andra Akers of Desert Hearts, R87...
- what did she die of?
- Who is Dixie Carter? I''m serious.
- the Big C, r92.\
That''s cancer, not cunt.
- [quote] Ms. Ashley will take over the role that was recently vacated by Dixie Carter. To her great sadness, Dixie Carter will be unable to perform in Mrs. Warren''s Profession. Ms. Carter has undergone surgery which is requiring a longer recuperation period than was anticipated. Artistic Director Michael Kahn was "extremely saddened to learn that Dixie would not be able to join us for Mrs. Warren''s Profession. However, her health is of most importance to us and we want her to take care of herself first and foremost."
- Shut the fuck up MHB. Dixie was most definitely a Republican. \
God I hate you with a passion hotter than a thousand suns.
- R93? Please turn in your gay card.\
Then put the TV series "Designing Women" in your Netflix queue
- She died after reading a couple of comments by misshelenbedd. They bored her to death.
- [quote]Who is Dixie Carter? I''m serious.\
Google her. I''m serious.
- Leave this site and marry a partner of the opposite sex, R93.
- I get the impression from Holbrook''s statement that Dixie killed herself.
- June "Dixie" Carter was the first cousin of Georgia governor and former president Jimmy Carter of Georgia, hence the references to Atlanta, etc..
- please post Holbook''s statement. I Googled and could only get one sentence of it in a bunch of short stories, and it was only the traditional generic stuff.
- Why did somebody call her a "jew loving hick?" I know it was meant as an insult, but what about Dixie Carter was partically Jew loving?
- Well would you prefer she was a Jew hating hick?
- This ones for you, Dixie:
- Jesus some of you freaks need to STFU. \
Miss Carter was a class act. Who cares how she voted now?\
She was one of my favorite actresses on television.\
My heart goes out to her family.
Zak Sugarbaker, lately of Atlanta GA
- I''m sure TMZ is digging for the real story as we type.
- Now please do a funeral centered reunion special before we lose anyone else.
- Dixie always caught my attention when ever I saw her on TV. She was a class act. Golly, she was only two years older than moi.
- Will the casket be carried by well hung black men?
- I got to see her cabaret show at the Cafe Carlyle, probably 20 years ago. She was smart, hilarious and S-E-X-Y.
- Designa Vaginas.
- what a bunch of assholes..."she is a Republican so you''re glad she is gone? In 2012 after the Dem''s have contolled congress and the White House I want you to tell me what they have done for us? You can blame the republicans anymore because the Democrats are in charge.
- I did a play with Dixie about 10ish years ago. I did not agree with all of her views, however...\
she was supportive of gay rights, and unlike many people with her more conservative views, she was a SMART, THINKING woman.\
I loved her.\
- We are standing by here in Atlanta waiting for the lights to go out. Someone tell Suzanne to get her baton in gear, or Baton Bob will have to do the job.
- Wow, this is really sad. I loved her.\
She was a libertarian, which makes her even better in my eyes since she didn''t fall for the bullshit the Democrats OR the Republicans vomited out.
- [quote]In 2012 after the Dem''s have contolled congress and the White House I want you to tell me what they have done for us?\
A small change that keeps insurance companies from dropping people when they get sick for starters.
chid who just developed juvenile diabetes
- See? Obamacare!
- I''m shocked that Hal Holbrook outlived her.
- It''s a testament to how far this site has fallen that Dixie Carter - Dixie Carter! - who was extremely gay-friendly, the star of a television show forever in the gay canon, who played perhaps the first character to verbally blast a homophobe to bits in "Killing All the Right People" - has to be defended for having registered as a Republican voter God knows how many years ago.\
Who on earth is posting here now? Have you ever liked or respected anyone who wasn''t exactly like you? Do you get out at all?\
DC was a class act, through and through. You haters must be a horrid, bitter, lonely lot.
- Dear Jim and Michelle Duggar,\
We''re going to need another one.
- This death seems out of the blue. No one reported anything wrong with her that I know of.\
And I would have thought her husband would have died first as he is a lot older.
- She was a Republican. We shouldn''t be too sad.
- Another premature death, just like Corin Redgrave. There''s no reason to die at age 70 today unless you are abusing your health.
- who the fuck are Jim and Micleeel Duggar?
- Interesting that they have not released her cause of death yet.
- [quote]There''s no reason to die at age 70 today unless you are abusing your health.\
A list of reasons that might cause a person who takes reasonably good care of his or her health to die at age 70 would go on for pages.
- She probably went into surgery to remove the tumor she coughed up from her blackened lungs.
The Marlboro Woman
- Here you go, R127.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Jim and Michelle Duggar
- Spoken like her agent/manager r121.
- I knew Dixie and her daughters (who both went to Harvard, R30) and they were always gay friendly. She also voted for Obama.\
She was lovely, warm and kind. Stop with the hating - So she didn''t share you views on abortion, she did share your views about marriage. And a lot of 70 years olds don''t.
- If she coughed it up, why would there be a need to remove it?
- DL seemed behind the curve on this one. Normally we are up on which celebrities are ill or are recovering from surgery.\
No one here seemed to know she had surgery until after she died.
- R130 -- you are trying to say her cause of death was Jim and Michelle Duggar?
- Her IMDB board has exploded (as is always the case when a celebrity dies), but as someone notes on one of the threads, no one had posted there in NINE MONTHS until today.
- R135, no, I was replying to R126 and mistakenly put R127 in my post.\
But I wouldn''t put anything past those Duggars.
- She was old and on a show that queens liked. Therefore, I am glad she died.
- Was she a smoker?
- She was just in a commercial for a neck condition. This is out of the blue.
- What was on her ipod?
- [quote]Holbrook released a written statement saying, "This has been a terrible blow to our family. We would appreciate everyone understanding that this is a private family tragedy."
- [quote]She was just in a commercial for a neck condition. This is out of the blue.\
Is the job still available?
- As far as I know, I don''t think anyone put her on the DL death list thread for 2010.
- Was it another facelift?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8mnsVk-WSMgJ:www.drjohnowsley.com/html/dixie.html dixie carter surgery&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
- Here''s the latest from TMZ.\
Still no word on the cause.
- DL has not been good at predicting which celebrities would die this year
- The theatre company in DC where she was going to do "Mrs. Warren''s Profession" had just announced Liz Ashley as a replacement, saying Dixie had had surgery which was taking a longer recovery period than she had expected.\
Whatever it is, it''s something to do with the surgery.
- This is more upsetting to me than Bea Arthur dying, for some reason.
- MARY! @ R149
- Probably because Dixie was so much younger than Bea was when she died. Wasn''t Bea 86 or something?
- They''re having a big mournfest over the loss of a great Republican over at Free Republic.
- I think that''s it, R151. The GG ladies have been old as long as I can remember. Not so with Dixie Carter.
- TNA Wrestling owner Dixie Carter tweeted about the other, more famous Dixie Carter''s passing:\
"Condolences to the family of actress Dixie Carter. I was a big fan and I loved sharing a name with you."
- Being a Republican a generation ago or so (like with the Eisenhower era and, hell, even Nixon) isn''t the same as being one today (George H.W. Bush looks like a liberal compared to his son and what Jr. has spawned in today''s not-so-Grand Old Party.)
- R154, that is probably the least ridiculous celebrity twit of all time.
- [quote]It''s a testament to how far this site has fallen that Dixie Carter - Dixie Carter! - who was extremely gay-friendly, the star of a television show forever in the gay canon, who played perhaps the first character to verbally blast a homophobe to bits in "Killing All the Right People" - has to be defended for having registered as a Republican voter God knows how many years ago.\
So on the money it''s scary. DL paranoia about someone having any current or past Republican ties has reached a point that would make Joe McCarthy thrilled. It''s really nothing short of hysteria.
- I hate to break it to you old queen at R155, but Eisenhower was about 60 years ago, that is about three generations, gramps.
- [quote]I hate to break it to you old queen at [R155], but Eisenhower was about 60 years ago, that is about three generations, gramps.
I'm in my 30s, asshole at R158.
The two presidents - who were [italic]elected[/italic] - prior to Ronald Reagan (who turned the Republican Party into the direction that has now arrived) ... well, my dear, it was Dwight Eisenhower (1952, 1956) and Richard Nixon (1968, 1972)
Even conservative icon Barry Goldwater - who got the party's electoral prowess to rise in the South in the mid-1960s - recognized, in the 1980s, the lunacy that was becoming the Republican Party. Goldwater, who died in 1998, mentioned how nuts, religion dominated, and anti-conservative (in the real nature of that word) the party had become. (For example, Goldwater, unlike his party's loudest voices, was pro-choice. He was for personal choice, for liberty. Curious note: Goldwater's 1964 running mate was New York congressman William Miller, father of comedienne and Sirius Left host Stephanie Miller.)
- The Eisenhowers took the airwaves and mailing lists, telling everyone to back Obama. That tells you something.
- It''s because of people like her and Heather Locklear that I believe that not ALL registered Republicans are bad people (just 95% of them). \
She (apart from others like Estelle Getty or Bea Arthur) chose to speak out for gays and HIV/Aids patients back at a time where these issues were still a major taboo. That''s what I will remember her for.
- MHB at R83 is more incoherent than usual. Why would you say that people who hate Republicans are from a "Freeper site"? That doesn''t make sense. Once you sober up, maybe you''ll realize that.
- MHB doesn''t sober up, r162. It hasn''t had a sober day in thirty years.
- I wonder what all those freepers mourning "the passing of a great Republican" would have to say about the fact that Dixie voted for Obama in the last election?
- Being "registered" doesn''t say that''s how one automatically votes.
- well, sister at R159, you ought to check for early onset Alzheimers... because you clearly can''t divide or count.
- "This is more upsetting to me than Bea Arthur dying, for some reason."\
That is treason on DL.
- [quote]well, sister at [R159], you ought to check for early onset Alzheimers... because you clearly can''t divide or count.\
I have no problem, mhb. It''s you with the [italic]disadvantage[/italic]. A generation isn''t automatically 20 years. But, hey, if you think it''s Alzheimer''s ... it would be a preferable experience, for anyone, than a conversation with you.
- Ouch r155.\
Wish I said that when the no good bitch insulted me...
- This is R 155, 159, 168:\
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This is me: "."
- Oops I meant r168
- mhb, I think it''s nigh time that we called Candy Finnegan in.\
Sadly though, I don''t think anyone gives enough of a shit about you to show up at your intervention.
- When will details of her death be released?
- People keep saying 70 is really young to die (with no obvious causes like overweight) but I honestly am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that she was 70. When did that happen? I swear she never seemed that old to me. I mean, Golden Girls was supposed to be older women, and Designing Women was younger working women. I just never thought Dixie was that old (I also don''t generally read articles or imdb of celebrities so I never noticed her age before). \
Well.... I guess its time to break out my best black attire again. At least its slimming.
- 70 is young. In my family almost everyone lives to be 90.\
Dying before age 80 today is premature, particularly if you are a celebrity with money and access to the best medical care
- Also, to get back to the point of this thread, while I definitely did not agree with all of her political views, Dixie always struck me as a pretty classy lady. And as someone known for going on crazed rants myself, I loved watching her as Julia getting worked up on going on a tear.\
- Dixie was older than the other 3 original Designing Women, who are all in their 50s now. I always thought it made the childhood stories about the Sugarbaker sisters sound a little implausible, since Dixie was technically old enough to be Delta''s mother, so they wouldn''t have all these memories of waking up on Christmas in matching footie pajamas or what have you.
- Here''s the clip of Julia going off on Ima Jean after Ima Jean says that AIDS is "killing all the right people."\
This is from 1987 folks. If you''re too young to remember, PRESIDENT REAGAN still hadn''t mentioned the word AIDS at this point. And most of the news coverage was homophobic at worst and salacious at best.
- Where was Marc Cherry at the time of her death?
- Oh Merfish (authenticated) you exhaust me - - and about everyone else around here. \
Have you ever had one original or clever thought?
- She''s dead, Jim.
- Oh, Troll-dar on mhb is fun.
- Troll-dar is best on those who actually are trolls. The vicious ones.
- Wikipedia has been updated:
- Dixie Cater is the top search term according to Google right now:
- MHB, you asking if someone has ever had an original or clever thought is hilarious - as if your every ridiculous word wasn''t taken right from the greatest hits of the Troll handbook.
- Why is it that mhb ruins every thread she posts on.\
She takes this shit way too personally.
- I saw her at Cafe Carlyle twice for some reason...I think I was taken....anyway, she was fantastic both times. Quite pretty and petite.\
I ran into her at Bloomingdales and spoke to her for a while..\
Quite nice and obviously gay friendly..
- "obviously gay friendly."\
- Probably because she didn''t recoil at r188''s big gay gushing show of affection, r189.
- The AIDS episode wasn''t so great-it tried to be judgmental about the gay "lifestyle" while still seeming compassionate.
- R191 NAILS it. That WAS Designing Women AND Dixie Carter.
- holy shit. Just signed on and was sure you bitches were pulling another one of your stunts. The etonline thread looks so amateur that I even thought for a moment that one of you designed it!
- not even on nytimes.com!!
- Too bad this thread has turned into a political one instead of a celebration of Dixie''s acting career.
- This is the perfect DL thread. To recap:\
Dixie Carter is dead (!)\
She was both liberal and right-wing.\
She was both anti-gay and gay-supportive.\
She died of mysterious causes, probably related to cosmetic surgery (it has been decided).\
Numerous people saw her in action doing her cabaret thing, and she was both wonderful and sang with a vibrato so wide Delta Burke could step through it with ease.\
Most posters on the thread throw their monkey crap at most of the other posters on the thread, about things that have nothing to do with Dixie Carter.\
And it''s still Sunday morning!
- Latest report from Atlanta:\
I do not lie, I awoke this morning and realized we''d indeed had a power failure some time after we went to bed last night.\
So it was The Night the Lights Went out in GEORGIA.\
I guess Georgia Power felt Miss Carter needed an immediate tribute. I whole heartedly must agree.\
And people, don''t hate. Let your anger focus on something productive.
- I''m with R195. \
What a shame that this news came out on a Saturday night when so many trolls and shitheads are hanging out at DL.\
Dixie Carter deserved better than this mess of a thread.\
As for her cause of death, I''m wondering if perhaps she had developed a post-surgery infection. At that age (yes, even 70) it takes longer to recuperate and getting an infection then can be fatal.
- I agree with R198. I''m sorry I even started this thread. I was a huge fan of hers. I''m so over the stupid black and white thinking of some posters when it comes to politics. \
Read R178. A year prior, Mark Harmon (a staunch republican) left his show because they gave his character AIDS. And around this same time, Lisa Whelchel (another Republican) refused to appear in an episode of "Facts of Life" that discussed Natalie losing her virginity.\
Dixie, however, delivered a passionate speech on a subject that just about ALL of the Republicans wanted nothing to do with. You will never convince me that she doesn''t give a shit about gay people on that stance alone.
- And look who''s birthday it is.
- John Wallowitch, songwriter and cabaret performer, was one of her closest friends. I had dinner with John and his partner (Bertram Ross) several years and they mentioned how they loved to go shopping in New York with Dixie. And going a bit off topic -- Wallowitch performed and recorded the song "Hillary Oh Hillary," for Hillary Clinton during her run for U.S. Senate.
- Delta.....your people are suffering.....speak to us Ma''am!
- Delightful Women
- [quote] Dixie''s father lived with her and Hal. He was still alive a couple of years ago. Anyone know if he still is living?\
Carter was the daughter of a grocery and department store owner who died just three years ago at 96. She said at the time of his death that he taught her to believe in people''s essential goodness.
- Quick! Lots of cheap autographs on eBay.
- Does anyone have a link to a web page or news article substantiating that she was an Obama voter? I can''t find anything
- [quote] Where was Marc Cherry at the time of her death?\
Actually, Nicollette at R179, Marc Cherry ADORED Dixie - they met when he was a staff writer on DW and he specifically wrote the part of Orson''s deliciously evil mother for her on "Desperate Housewives". Dixie got an Emmy nomination that year (2007) for Best Guest Actress, and Cherry accompanied her to the ceremony. She lost to Elaine Stritch as Jack''s mother on 30 ROCK.\
So I think we can safely assume Cherry''s in the clear in this case.
- I thought she was older than 70.
- No cause of death, yet? \
- R210? The family doesn''t want to release it yet. Let them grieve in private until such time that they are prepared to make the information public.
- r211, aka "Grief Nazi," somehow thinks Hal Holbrook and the rest of Dixie Carter''s family reads Datalounge (!!!) and might be offended by r210''s comment. \
I say it''s never too soon to start speculating. I''m wondering since they didn''t specify if this means she committed suicide, or that it was autoerotic asphyxiation. Hey, many guys die that way...
- And we''ve already started speculating, R212.\
Did you not see my earlier posts where Dixie was recently replaced by Elizabeth Ashley in a play because she was recovering from surgery and wouldn''t be able to start rehearsals in May?
- It certainly seems like she died young, considering her father lived until 96. How old was her mother when she died?\
If it was something like cancer, they would have said as much. What is a cause of death that people want to keep quiet? Was she an alcoholic?
- She could have had surgery and indulged in autoerotic asphyxiation while she was recuperating. It could happen.
- [quote]Did you not see my earlier posts where Dixie was recently replaced by Elizabeth Ashley in a play because she was recovering from surgery and wouldn''t be able to start rehearsals in May?\
No, I can''t say I closely read that thrilling piece of information.
- Marc Cherry was Dixie''s personal assistant. he was NOT a staff writer at Designing Women. He worked out of her home and ran errands for her to and from the Designing Women studio.\
See link below.\
In terms of Mark Harmon, he DID NOT ask to be written out because his character contracted AIDS. He was named People magazine''s sexiest man alive after ''Prince of Bel Air'' came out. He wanted to capitalize on the buzz and break into features. He asked to be released from his contract to pursue these movie roles.\
TPTB at St. Elsewhere agreed, and decided to write his character out with the AIDS storyline.
- Hmm, maybe she had plastic surgery and died from complications.
- Didn''t they do that to Mark Harmon, r217, because they were mad he wanted to leave? I recall reading something at the time that implied they wanted the audience to turn against him so they gave him a disease they considered the modern plague.
- TPTB at St. Elsewhere wanted to educated the public that this wasn''t just a GAY disease. That good looking hetro men can contract the disease as well.\
Harmon wanted to leave at the end of season three to pursue his film career. TPTB pitched this storyline to him, and asked him to stay for a few episodes to let the storyline play out, and wrap up his character. He agreed.\
The impact was much larger, because NBC and St. Elsewhere were willing to do this to a major character that was straight, good looking and hetro.
- From 1993
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Country-music stars step into a new era of frank talk in a series of AIDS-awareness advertisements that address sex education, condoms and other ways to protect against the deadly AIDS virus.
Mary-Chapin Carpenter and Mark Chesnutt are co-chairs of the Country Music AIDS Awareness Campaign and are two of some 35 stars who will appear in print, radio and television ads set to debut Jan. 13.
The broadcast ads are slick, using MTV-style fast edits as star after star read lines such as:
* "Sex without condoms puts you at risk for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS."
* "Use a latex condom every time you have sex."
Some of the stars who can be seen and heard in the campaign, called "Break the Silence," include Clint Black, Wynonna Judd, George Jones, Kris Kristofferson, Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson and the Kentucky Headhunters.
"AIDS Ain't Just Some Big City Problem," trumpets one print ad with Chesnutt's picture.
Chesnutt, the Country Music Assn.'s 1993 Horizon Award winner with such hits as "It Sure Is Monday," initiated the campaign. He got involved after reading that AIDS was spreading twice as fast in rural as in urban areas.
"I know lots of people outside urban areas who think that AIDS is strictly a big-city problem or one that doesn't affect them directly," Chesnutt said. "But it's affecting rural areas all over the country and these are places that country music can speak to directly."
Singer Kathy Mattea is generally credited with being the first major country star to speak out about AIDS, years after arts communities in New York and Los Angeles.
Mattea wore a red ribbon at the Country Music Assn.'s awards show in the fall of 1992. The CMA had opted to distribute green ribbons for environmental awareness to participants in the national network television broadcast. Stars on most other awards shows had taken to wearing red ribbons to show support for AIDS sufferers.
Mattea's voice cracked as she spoke about losing three friends to the disease. She was defying CMA officials, who had denied her permission to explain why she was wearing the red ribbon.
Carpenter doesn't see the point of bickering over who started helping and when.
"I certainly don't think country music is one of the last to acknowledge it," Carpenter said in a telephone interview. "Corporate America has really not done a lot. But I think that's also besides the point. The point is to do as much as we can without bickering over who's been there at the forefront."
The campaign was designed by advertising executives in Nashville, led by Bill Johnson, design director of Sony Music. The goal is to reach about 50 million people with messages about safe sex and AIDS education.
The broadcast commercials will be distributed to the broadcast and cable networks. Rolling Stone, Country America and Billboard magazines all have committed to running the print ads.
Another show of support from country stars came on a concert at the Grand Ole Opry House on World AIDS Day on Dec. 1.
Billy Ray Cyrus and K.T. Oslin headlined more than 20 artists at the concert. Some country stars also are participating in the national CareBonds program, in which autographed photos are exchanged for donations.
Mattea is the springboard behind another project sure to attract a lot of notice, the country version of the "Red Hot" series. The AIDS awareness series puts multi-artist theme albums that benefit AIDS research. "Red Hot Blue" had rock artists do Cole Porter tunes. There also has been a "Red Hot Dance" compilation.
The "Red Hot Country" record, set for a March, 1994, release, will feature songs from Mattea, Carpenter and others.
"The main thing is speaking very candidly and very
- Has Conraid Bain released a statement yet?
- Her plastic surgery came out all wrong so she committed suicide.
- r221, what does that have to do with Dixie Carter?
- Mark Harmon isn''t a Republican, either, OP. Nice to jump on people for turning the thread political as you post phony political info about someone else.
- Didn''t read the news until this morning. The gay gasp is still ringing off my walls.\
My favorite Julia rant:
- [quote] When will details of her death be released?\
I can''t wait to see which theory is right. It''s like waiting for the Oscar nominations!
- It''s hard to find the right box through tears. You understand.
- I loathed her character on DESIGNING WOMEN. It seemed every episode concluded with another of Julia''s pompous, arrogant rants, all badly over-acted by Carter.\
I did love her on EDGE OF NIGHT, though.
- Other than "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," "Designing Women" was my favorite all-time show. I loved those original women; such great characters and great writing by Linda Bloodworth-Thomason.\
Will always remember Dixie. She made us laugh and think.
- I remember all the Designing Women: Delta Burke, Dixie Carter, Annie Potts and Jean Smart like it was yesterday. \
Julia Sugarbaker was a standout. And I also loved Dixie in another of Linda Thomason''s shows, "Filthy Rich." What a funny show that was. Dixie, Delta and the hilarious Ann Wedgeworth were something else!
- Dixie Carter was one of the good ol'' broads. Unfortunately, she wasn''t all that old.\
RIP sweet Dixie.
- [quote] But she was very conservative in her personal life.\
Not she was conservative, not *very* conservative. I remember her saying she voted for Clinton, at least in ''92 I don''t know about ''96, and when I saw her on Politically Incorrect about a decade ago, she described herself as a Libertarian who is liberal on social issues. That doesn''t add up to "very conservative", that''s a center-right moderate.
- "Has Conraid Bain released a statement yet?"\
I don''t know, but it''s a surprise that he has outlived her. He is 87 years old, but still going strong according to a recent interview with Todd Bridges.
The NY Times says she died of endometrial cancer. In older women, this is often caused by excessive estrogen.\
Carter was an avid proponent of hormone replacement therapy.\
I''m guessing this story will likely pick up traction in the MSM. You can expect Suzanne Somers to be on "Larry King", rabidly defending the practice.
- SHE''S FINE! SHE SENDS HER LOVE!
- Okay, so she died from uterine cancer (dressed up as "endometrial cancer). Now we can move on and do our gay mourning thing without feeling denied of crucial details.
- Yes, R235. If you read the other Dixie Carter thread, you will see that some of the medical information about this form of cancer has already been posted.
- "A total abdominal hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus) with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy is the most common therapeutic approach."
- "typically occurs within a few decades of menopause, is associated with excessive estrogen exposure"
- So she was having her pussy tightened?
- Julia would have been appalled by Dixie''s cosmetic surgeries.
- It''s terrible that Carter died so young for what may not have been a very good reason. We don''t know all the details, but my personal experience is that doctors want to yank out the uterus the first chance they get. (Doctors want me to have a hysterectomy to "control" my heavy cycles and use estrogen replacement therapy, and this is why I won''t do it, especially since my mother died of cancer.)
- I worked for the Democratic Party and devote hours of my weekends to electing Democrats (tough year, don''t think we aren''t underdogs, ''cause we are unless you live in Berkley or NYC) but I can''t understand how people think you deserve to die because you''re not a Democrat? My father and his wife are Repugs, I don''t think they deserve to die because we disagree on taxes? Some of us have become as bad as the teabaggers? WTF?\
Personally, I always preferred Delta/Suzanne over Dixie/Julia, and the show died when Delta left, but Dixie and her terminator tirades helped me form my liberal beliefs. They were revolutionary during the Reagan years, whether she agreed or not, they had an impact. I strongly suggest some of you ask for forgiveness, you need it.
- [italic]It''s terrible that Carter died so young for what may not have been a very good reason.[/italic]\
She was 70. OLD. Next.
- She wasn''t old, she was in the prime of life. Barely middle-aged!
- Can I have her hands?
- Question for 243, and this is important.\
My Mother had a complete hysterectomy in the early 90''s. She is obviously post-menepausal. Lately she has been having vaginal bleeding (lately = the last two to three months) and so far she has not been able to find the cause, after seeing many doctors. \
You seem to know about this and I did read the Wiki link. Am I correct in assuming that given her hysterectomy she is unable to to have this type of cancer?
- If she has no uterus then she cannot get uterine cancer. Same goes for endometrial cancer, since the endometrius is the lining of the uterus. However, risks for breast and colon cancers (among others) increase with the use of hormone replacement therapy.\
Further, cancerous tumors can occur in the area of the vagina closest to where the uterus used to be. If your mother has been to doctors, I''m sure they checked for that already, as well as the most common causes, but she should still try to get some 2nd or even 3rd opinions if it''s not diagnosed yet.
- I don''t fucking care what''s already been posted, pathetic online hall monitor at R238.\
Not all of us are glued to DL, 24/7, waiting to see what someone else has said in another thread and comparing it to the info in ours, desperately hoping we don''t repeat something.\
Are you institutionalized or something? Jesus, God, get a life.
- I''m super stoned and watching Law and Order on Bravo and I swear to God I just saw Dixie Carter doing a commercial
- R250 of course offers the perfect expression of DL grief and sharing at the loss of a gay camp fave. Her name is Royce.
- Quiz for R250 -- In a conversation, if you are not talking are you:\
(b) just waiting to talk some more
- well smell you r250
- Exactly, R246. 70 is NOT old. Not to mention the fact that it is below the average-life expectancy for a woman today.
- Hyserectomies are a huge scam and huge moneymaker for corrupt physicians who recommend removal for the smallest reason so that they can get the surgery fees.\
And studies have shown that 85 or 90 percent of hysterectomies are completely unnecessary.
- R256, not refering to hysterectomies for erradication of cancer, of course - but for myriads of other reasons.
- R256 here. Not refereing to hysterectomies for eradiction of cancer - just hysterectomies for many of the other myriad of reasons.
- R259 here. Not referring to R257 or R258.
- R252/253/254 = the same loon posting from three different computers.\
Re-read your posts and think about it. Long and hard.\
So, really, someone needs to read the entire goddamn site before posting, lest we offend your delicate, Dl-centric sensibilities?
- "the same loon posting from three different computers."\
If you believe that, it''s you that is loony.
- Its being reported that she died from complications of Endometrial cancer.
- "The NY Times says she died of endometrial cancer. In older women, this is often caused by excessive estrogen.\
Carter was an avid proponent of hormone replacement therapy."\
Its the combination of Progestrin & Estrogen hormones that raise the risk for cancer. Not Estrogen on it''s own.
- My guess is they went in for surgery, found her cancer to be inoperable and terminal. She died a few weeks later.
- Several years ago, Dixie did a news magazine (20/20?) where she was a strong proponent of taking Human Growth Hormone to stay young. I know the use of it is controversial and some think it can also expedite the grownth of the wrong cells, i.e. cancer cells. I hope this is not the case, but the stuff still scares me.
- I doubt anyone has mentioned it yet, but did you know that she may have had hormone therapy?
- [quote] My guess is they went in for surgery, found her cancer to be inoperable and terminal. She died a few weeks later\
That was my first thought as well.
- or, she started chemo and it killed her.\
I know several people who died from chemo, and their deaths were described as "complications from cancer." Chemo will nearly kill you to cure you. In some cases it will kill you.
- I heard she threw her hormone replacement medicine on Jasmine Guy''s front lawn. \
And then she died.
- BUMP for the idiot who didn''t bother to do a search. (He didn''t, either--all I had to do was search for Dixie" and this came up immediately.)
- Bump for all the idiots who didn''t bother to read the last 20-30 posts before posting the same thing over and over again.
- I know, R268. If I''m ever diagnosed with cancer (which I will be, since I work in the entertainment industry), I''ll probably say "fuck the chemo, just let me die."
- “Dixie Carter was a Goddess. Beautiful and brainy, smart and funny, prim and sexy, wickedly talented and divinely sweet. She loved fiercely and was adored in return. To have known her a little was a delight to all. To have known her well, a treasure beyond reckoning. And now, a loss beyond measure.” - Annie Potts
- Actress Jean Smart and her actor husband Richard Gilliland are reacting to the death of their "Designing Women" co-star Dixie Carter over the weekend, telling "The Insider," "Dixie was such an amazing person."\
"She was gorgeous, hilarious, incredibly talented and so devoted to her family," continues Jean. "There was no one else like her and I was completely crazy about her. She exuded joy. Richard and I will really miss her and our hearts go out to her beautiful family."
- "I started out as a fan, then became her employee and ended up as her friend. Sadly, there aren''t many people in this town with such class, dignity and integrity. She will be missed." - Marc Cherry
- Was she a hermaphrodite?\
DL talks about Bea Arthur''s penis. What about Dixie''s?
- R248, I just had a supracervical hysterectomy, meaning I kept my cervix. I also have my ovaries. Even though I no longer have a uterus and therefore no uterine lining, I still have periods. The doctor calls them cervical periods. Evidently, this is common among women who have their ovaries and cervix because a bit of the endometrial lining is attached to the cervix.
Does your mother still have her ovaries and cervix? Just because a woman does not have a uterus does not mean she is menopausal. My ovaries are working just fine and will continue to do so until menopause, probably 10 years from now.
That is one consideration. Also, if she does have any lady parts left, she is at risk for cancer of those lady parts, ie. ovarian or cervical cancer.
Another possibility that my doctor told me about: sometimes, a post-menopausal woman can start having periods (with or without uterus, so long as she has ovaries) if she is exposed to an "alpha" menstruating female. That would be the women who always screw up the periods of other women they are close to (for instance, they live together or spend a lot of time together).
Could also be "vaginal atrophy." I assume they've ruled out cancer through blood tests and exams?
I''m a lesbian, boys, so no frau comments, please
- Thanks 277 for your reply. My mother is 67 so there is no chance she is still having periods. And according to her they got all the lady parts. She is a very heavy drinker and smoker, but they only gave her a body scan from the waist down and to date have not found anything.
- More comments from Jean Smart.
- Was this photo taken before or after she died?
- Any word from Delta Burke?\
The two of them together on Designing Women were priceless.
- Why does God take Dixie Carter but leave these shit-box cunts known as Kristin Chenoweth and Patti Lupone?????
- If you think the vitriol on this thread is out of control, just wait until next year when they leave her out of the Oscar death montage.
- Dixie was a trailblazer in interracial dating. With several recognized past affairs.
- Dixie had the best legs ever. When she sat up on the stool in Designing Woemen and crossed her gorgous legs....The World Stood Still!
- She's still dead.
- I love how Ray had to bring that up 4 months later.
- Daid as a doh'nokka!
- I thought she resurrected.
- Annie's comment looks per-prepared. They know they'll be expected to pop-up with a good quote when one of the other cast members dies. It'd have a comment filed away too.
- 4 months, R287? Try 4 months and TWO YEARS.
Jesus fucking Christ, what was the point, 'Ray'? aka R284?
- 2 1/2 yrs later r287, that's how long she's been dead and how long the thread had been idle.
- This is too sad, Dezigning Women was one of my favorite shows. .
- R284 is clearly digging through the bowels of Datalounge. It must be a slow day for him.
- Dixie was well stretched!
- Size mattered to Dixie.
- Fun episode with Julia in top form.
At 3:25 "ding stuff"
Her bit at the bookstore is brilliant, at around 07:50
- Dixie had the geatest legs. I think on Designing Women she put dry graphite on the hem of her skirt so it would slide up further when she sat down and criossed her legs. Because she sure showed a lot of thigh!
- First Rhoda then Bonnie Franklin and now the 1st, 2nd Mrs Drummond.
- Yeah! Dixie probably wanted Anthony to look up her skirt!
- We'll meet MopTop and Pong and Ping the pindas
And Marvin who has the voices of a whore
The Ann B Alice Show, the Ann B Alice Show
It's the world o' your friends, the Ann B Alice Show....
Starring Ann B Alice
- Why revive this thread?
Did she make a ghostly appearance?
- God! Could you imagine Dixie's lovely legs wrapped around a man's back?
- My dick always got hard when Dixie climbed up on that bar stool & crossed her legs. Showing off her fantastic legs & thighs!
- Carole Nelson loves Black Cock