Tina Fey's Bullying Cause Dermatologist's Suicide!

Fey has a mean streak a mile wide. She can be unbelievably cruel.

Even though Tina is a comedienne, considering who she married, you would think she would be more empathetic.

He seems like quite the delicate flower.

Oh, for GOD'S SAKE, OP!

Yeah, that's right. That satanic whore, Tina Fey, KNEW this surgeon was in bad or extremely fragile emotional shape, and she and Martin Short DELIBERATELY conspired to push him over the edge, and will both be charged with first-degree murder, if there's any justice in the world.

I'm truly, TRULY sorry the man died, but his troubles OBVIOUSLY ran far deeper than what you've reduced this to. Bitch please!

Yes, Fey has a mean streak. She's just like Gilda Radner.

Hopefully karma will finally come back to get this cunt. Never could stand her.

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but seriously, is this bullying? People imitate each other all the time. Comedians do it literally everyday. Hell the majority of Eminems videos are shit talking people and doing incredibly unflattering imitations of them. If anyone should have offed themelves it's LiLo. She's faced some HARSH judgement.

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You'd have to be a really warped cunt to have someone who looked like this deranged queen, operate on your face.

Look at the pic with the 3 blond women. All of them look just like Brandt.

Shiver me timbers!

Honestly, this guy was bizarre looking. Short's makeup wasn't too far off-base.

However, if someone as prestigious and successful as he was could actually take his own life over something like this, he had some deep and serious problems and it obviously wouldn't have taken much to push him over that edge.

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Well adjusted people don't have faces that look like melted butter. I can't imagine anyone wanting him touching your face, let alone the likes of Madonna.

Ask Tracy Morgan who was really driving the Walmart truck that ruined his life.

Because it wasn't Kevin Roper..

Seriously, why would anyone want someone who looked like that freak going anywhere near their face?

So Tina Fey is actually a Mean Girl IRL?

He looks like Dr Evil's Swedish brother.

OP = worse than Hitler and Reverand Richard Wayne Gary Wayne

If at age 65 his psyche was still so fragile that a silly skit could push him over the edge, then I'd say the dear doctor obviously had had a LOT of unresolved and troubling issues that, unfortunately for whatever reason, were never properly dealt with during his lifetime...

Brandt was upset about Martin Short’s portrayal of a nutty plastic surgeon on the hit comedy, but it was not the cause of his death, his spokeswoman told Page Six.

Brandt’s longtime publicist Jacquie Trachtenberg told us, “The show definitely deeply hurt him, he was being made fun of because of the way he looks. “It is mean, and it was bullying. But the show was not the reason for his depression, and it was not the reason he would take his own life.”

Anyone I ever knew who did impersonations of other people were horribly insecure messes who impersonate and exaggerate the mostly negative verbal and physical tics of others to gain the acceptance of the very crowdn they mock behind their backs. All at the expense of someone who -- as is usually the case -- has done absolutely nothing to invite mockery and humiliation from the "comedian" doing the impersonation. Why the need to mock, Tina? What did that man you bullied to death ever do to you? By the way, it's no secret that comics are usually unhappy, often rather evil, people. Ask Portia.

I found Martin's impersonation in poor taste. I don't think his wife would feel the same and I hope she told him so after they watched it together.

Physician heal thyself.

TV:

Operation Bikini: Battlefields of Beauty (TV Movie documentary) Himself 2010

VH1 News Presents: Plastic Surgery Obsession (TV Movie documentary) Himself (as Dr. Fredric Brandt) 2009

Make Me Young: Youth Knows No Pain (Documentary) Himself

Book:

10 Minutes/10 Years: Your Definitive Guide to a Beautiful and Youthful Appearance.

Not some anonymous freak, this fame whore queen was fair game.

Some of you ridiculous prisspots sound as if Tina Fey was the first person ever to do a comedic impersonation on TV.

"Mean" and "bully"? Yeah, just like Gilda Radner was mean and bullying when she did Baba Wawa 40 years ago.

This "dermatologist to the stars" was at just a glance a seriously fucked up individual who made himself a clown and ripe for satire.

No doubt when he looked in the mirror he thought he saw a 19 year old and seeing himself being parodied on TV probably shocked him in to reality and he simply couldn't deal with what he had done to himself.

Tina is in the clear here.

[quote]By the way, it's no secret that comics are usually unhappy, often rather evil, people.

Yeah, but if they agree with you politically, it's all good, right?

For example, Jon Stewart makes fun of people all the time, and the Left has a sort of hysterical giddiness about him and his show.

Bill Maher fits this description to a lesser degree. And a lesser degree only because he's alienated some Leftists due to his Islamophobia.

I think the guy was seriously fucked up and I also think that whoever was responsible for the look of the doctor character on the show didn't need to make it so absolutely clear they were doing a parody of the guy. He could have looked ridiculous in an entirely different way so as not to be targeting one specific person.

R25 = right-wing retard devoid of any sense of humor

r21 - thank you.

The problem with today's comedians is that they will only go after safe targets. When was the last time you saw a George Clooney or a Julia Roberts satirized on these shows? Did SNL have a Tidal spoof on Saturday's show?

Everyone now is afraid of offending the A list people, so they'll go after the obvious and easiest targets. Then they will dress it up as being daring and edgy. But it's the high school bully mentality at work, whether they're aware of it or not. The popular ones get a pass, while the "losers" get all of the shit.

You can't compare this to Gilda and Barbara. Barbara was the first female nightly news anchor when SNL took the piss out of her. It was bold at the time for SNL to ridicule such a high profiled figure.

But female comediennes today wouldn't dare do such a thing to a contemporary and they would bitch that any criticism a woman in her position received was misogyny. Even Lindsay Lohan hasn't gotten shit by any of these shows, and there's plenty they could have satirized. Tina even went to bat for her many times.

Could you imagine the reaction if someone did a sketch mocking Tina's facial scar? I seriously doubt it would be as forgiving.

The poor dear!

We'd grieve for him but we're busy burying the 6 of our 10 children who just died from scarlet fever.

Tina didn't give herself that facial scar trying to look 30+ years younger and then do the same to thousands of others paying millions of dollars.

False equivalency.

Comics can't parody the rich and famous anymore. These people are highly sensitive, they are not like the average person. They are special! Treat them as such!

R31 But Tina Fey is a public figure. And if you're going to satirize others for how they look, then she should be fair game also.

Um, but… maybe he had other issues?

Tina Fey doesn't have a distinctive enough look to satirise.

But the punch line of the Martin Short character on “Kimmy Schmidt” wasn’t simply “the way he looks.” It was not a cruel jab at a person with a birth defect, or a deforming injury. The joke was about a character who had very obviously and unfortunately altered his looks. It was about a character who had gone so deeply into a world of men and women obsessed with youth and beauty that he had made himself grotesque. And hurtful as it apparently was, it nonetheless appears to have been a parody based on a public figure. That’s not bullying.

Goddamn women.

Bitch is the new black.

Tina Fey kills again!!

First Rachel Dratch's career now this!!! Bitch.

This is terrible. Who's next? Sarah Palin?

Haven't seen the show, but it is cruel to make fun of someone's appearance. I guess it doesn't really stand out though because so much of tv entertainment and news seems to be a celebration of cruelty.

R40, he wasn't born looking that way. It wasn't a physical disease that caused him to have those bizarre looks. He did that to himself, willingly and purposely.

And then did it to many others and charged them through the nose for it.

Do you get it yet?

I'm amazed Madonna picked him. She seemed savvier?

[quote]Brandt’s longtime publicist Jacquie Trachtenberg told us, “The show definitely deeply hurt him, he was being made fun of because of the way he looks. “It is mean, and it was bullying. But the show was not the reason for his depression, and it was not the reason he would take his own life.”

FINALLY, a voice of sanity emerges here. The man was a public figure. His IMDB profile lists only a fraction of the hundreds of talk show appearances he's made over the years. ANYONE with a face THAT fucked-up obviously has a deeper slew of mental-health problems than at least 6% of DataLounge combined.

[quote]When was the last time you saw a George Clooney or a Julia Roberts satirized on these shows?

I've seen SNL satirize Julia's horse teeth. Clooney's getting a whole load of shit online today because of the restraining order preventing ANYONE from getting within 500 meters of his Italian mansion. The *amount* of fame one has is irrelevant: if you're gonna put yourself out there in the public spotlight, you *have* to be able to deal with cruel barbs.

The fact that we are arguing the latter proposition on a website that has published collective MILLIONS of the harshest celebrity barbs imaginable over the past 20 years might be too much irony for me to handle at present...

[quote] if you're gonna put yourself out there in the public spotlight, you *have* to be able to deal with cruel barbs.

Is that why you're twiddling your dick right now in your parents' basement?

Or more likely, no nothing about the cruel barbs. I can't imagine George Clooney spends a lot of time reading what the internet has to say about him, despite its considerable efforts to inform him.

The dear, departed doctor, I'd guess, was more familiar with Google.

It's all a question of stature.

sorry about this mans death-but who would go to a dermatologist for facial work that looked like that?

Know, not no!

Older people (m/f) with cosmetically 'enhanced' wrinkle-free faces always look creepy, no exception. Wrinkles definitely can look good on certain men though (like Sean Connery), if they have the right bone-structure.

[quote] Or more likely, no nothing about the cruel barbs. I can't imagine George Clooney spends a lot of time reading what the internet has to say about him, despite its considerable efforts to inform him.

The only thing that gets said with any regularity about Clooney is that he likes men. And, since, that's true, how can he really get upset over that shit?

As for Brandt, he didn't have to google himself. Months earlier their was a NYT piece directly tying him to the character, like VH1 pop up video for anyone who didn't get the reference.

Definitely Sean Connery, but everyone looks better with wrinkles because it is natural; the other is strange looking.

[quote]The only thing that gets said with any regularity about Clooney is that he likes men. And, since, that's true, how can he really get upset over that shit?

Rubbish. Imagine all the boards on all the internets... you really think they're only talking about the fixation that he's gay? You stupid.

I think he had plenty of self esteem issues long before Tina Fey came along.

The man looked like a freak by his own choice and he was a public figure. He's fair game for satire.

Brandt wasn't the only freak working in botox. Ever take a long, hard look at Dr. Pat Wexler?

Ummmm seriously>? If you can't laugh at yourself who can you laugh at??

It was a parody...I mean look at the guy -- do you want him operating on you? He looks creepy...why would trust someone who looks like that to make judgements on how you look or will look...

The man did it to himself. He made himself look that way by choice. He wasn't in some horribly disfiguring accident and that's the best he could do. He is the perfect example of someone, like Michael Jackson, who is trying to repair something deeply broken on the inside by cutting up the outside. And the real tragedy is that he got to be 65 years old and was never able to heal. In every picture he is in sneakers and some other oddly age-inappropriate clothing. If he was so terrified of aging, Why didn't he off himself forty years ago.

I've always figured that people with obvious cosmetic surgery probably have some type of mental illness.

My god, some of you are fucking mental cases. R29, you need to get help.

DL has become such a drag, with too many elderly scolds.

Valerie Harper's oncologist looks like this too.

[quote] In every picture he is in sneakers and some other oddly age-inappropriate clothing. If he was so terrified of aging, Why didn't he off himself forty years ago.

Yeah, I bet his ghost is rethinking all that safe sex during the 80's.

Well, r51, I was talking about "negative" things being said about a person and that's the only "negative" thing I've ever heard about him.

If you have dish, reveal or get the fuck out.

r61 has control issues

The white bitch will probably get away it. White cunts always do. She's disgusting.

Yes, R63, she'll "get away with it" because she didn't do anything wrong, you stupid, ignorant fuck. Why don't you join the doctor if I've hurt your feelings?

Fey has repeatedly been shown to be a bully and a bitch. She is the original mean girl.

Hope this bites her in her ugly little butt.

I'm sad for him, RIP Doc.

Look, he did his thing, and some people liked it. Whatever.

I think that Tina Fey is a fucked-up bully, and bullies who are successful are SOCIOPATHS.

Tina Fey is no school yard kid who hasn't fully developed their brain yet.

Tina Fey and Martin Short are cruel, rich assholes who have run out of material therefore they make fun and destroy fringey types.

And only a sociopath would say that the bullying is not responsible, and that Doc had other issues. Fuck that, he was a depressed senior. He wanted some dignity in his old age.

Fuck off Tina Fey and Martin Short, karma will come a'callin' for you.

If "he wanted some dignity in his old age", R66, he shouldn't have screwed up his fucking face.

Just saw this episode a few days ago while on an "Unbrakeable" binge. Had no idea that this idiot cosmetic surgeon was a real person.

I suspected that the actor was Martin Short.

It is among the funniest things I've ever seen on TV.

This "doctor" guilt-tripped his patients into having unnecessary procedures to line his pockets and justify his own, clearly intense insecurities.

He reminds me of that bigoted, greedy, shallow, former CEO of A&F, who also got his karma.

R66 be trippin'.

Uh, oh. You're not gonna go off and kill yourself over a little snark from a stranger, are you? Or ARE you?

In a way, Tina's selection for parody raises questions. The doctor was clearly mentally ill, despite the success or because of it. He looked weird. Drugs go hand in hand with these surgery people. He made bad decisions re: his appearance. He was an easy target?

Would Tina ever drag Lens Dunham over the coals? Not likely. Lens critically damaged the feminist movement by inventing a rape that did not occur, slandered an innocent man, then, as a side dish, offered a description of sexually molested her sister - or lied about it - in yet more of her terribly inside yet humor-free writings. Tina Fey would never take down Lens, because Lens is in the moneyed media NYC set that butters Tina's bread. Lens would be a worthy opponent. Lens, with her junta of publicists, needs a takedown.

This doctor, while bizarre and quite lost, was clearly a vulnerable person and despite some celebrity access, would be laughed at and ridiculed by the Tina Fey "supertalented" set the second he left the room. In his open slavishness to fame and in exhibiting the damage of that culture, the doctor deserved punishment. People like Tina Fey prefer to hide their need for it.

That doctor preyed on the insecure. And he made himself into a bizarre figure - the kind usually mocked and ridiculed here ad nauseum. I'm surprised there is any sympathy.

Maybe Doc had an artistic vision that we don't agree with, who cares.

Making fun of a senior citizen who has harmed no one, who lived alone, and was clinically depressed is evil.

Martin Short and Tina Fey made money off of his anguish.

Assholes be assholes, and they will be remembered for this act of cruelty forever.

Their careers are over.

Cause of death was by hanging, right? Why would an MD, who could get his hands on any pharmaceutical, doff himself with a rope? You'd think someone like that would know exactly how much and what to take to gradually drift off 'to death', painlessly.

Americans seem to think that snarkiness and rudeness is really, really cool.

No, it's not.

It means that you are incapable of wit. Tina Fey has no wit. Martin Short does, however, to make a living i.e. MAKE MONEY he will stoop very low and belittle fringy types who are vulnerable.

This kind of humor was not popular in American culture until the 80's.

Tina Fey is a symbol of America being flushed down the toilet by the elite assholes.

Oh yes, R72 - they'll NEVER work again!

Bullshit.

You people are just way too delicate of flowers to be able to live in this mean cruel world...

"It means that you are incapable of wit. Tina Fey has no wit. Martin Short does, however, to make a living i.e. MAKE MONEY he will stoop very low and belittle fringy types who are vulnerable."

I personally knew one of the fringe types Short made fun of. He was a nasty women-hating queen so whatever.

The doctor is a plastic surgeon. His target market are rich old people who have never heard of Kimmy Schmidt.

I didn't realize he was the same Dr. Brandt who had a show on Sirius Stars. I quite enjoyed him.

When women become as cruel as men civilizations collapse.

Rome, Aztecs--it is the mark of the end.

writers have and always will base characters on real people, famous or otherwise. As comedians they have the right to parody anyone they please. His mental health issues are tragic but clearly all his.

r81=thinks their opinion is definitive

R76 is looking at YOU, R63, 65, 66, 70, 72 and 74.

R81, there are a lot of Fey haters on this thread. They are wringing their hands with glee over the possibility that she could be taken down by this.

Those of us who don't have a vendetta against her can see the situation more clearly.

R72/R74 is the worst person in the world.

r84=r81 on a different browser

It's really not worth it. If I have a vending machine and a mouth, who needs pretty skin?

How were they supposed to know he was depressed? They lampooned him because he is part of the problem of people trying to achieve some physical ideal that they can never achieve hoping it will make them happy. And it obviously didn't work for him.

Look at it this way - he was bullying the public by pushing this unattainable ideal on the populace.

R86=typing from Bellevue.

"drinking ripple from the beheaded body of a chocolate Easter bunny."

Right, Tina's a bigoted bully. Meanwhile it took her to break a talented, flamboyant musical theater queen like Tituss Burgress for the mainstream. Yeah, I'm not buying the bigoted thing, she's definitely an ally.

Mean people suck!

1. I love Tina Fey's work. She is absolutely hilarious and 30 Rock was wonderful, even with its ups and downs.

2. The parody of this guy on Kimmy Schmidt was gut bustingly funny.

3. In a perfect world no one would ever make fun of anyone else. And there would be no war. And love and peace would abound. And there would NO COMEDIANS because comedy is based upon pain. And the world is full of it. We all have to live with the consequences of our actions. So, this wackjob doctor with the face of a transgendered burn victim had to endure the results, socially, of his decision to intentionally look that way. He presented to the world like he loved how he looked. And if a comedienne wanted to take the piss out of him, so be it. If he truly loved or even liked himself, he would have been able to laugh at that parody. Seriously. Think about that. For all Fey knew (and who knows what she knew), the dude was happy and thought he looked good. Comedians make fun of everybody. Joan Rivers, a scary looking creature herself, would have eviscerated this guy (even though she looked hardly much better) because that is what she did. Why anyone is piling on Tina Fey here is stupid as fuck.

As a sensitive person, I can see that the Doc was terrorized as a child and that it led to body dysmorphia which led to obsessive plastic surgery.

But I am sensitive, I can see his painful, bullied childhood, one where a slight, painfully shy and sweet boy suffered for being gay.

He was 65, for fuck's sake, and his childhood was full of homophobia!

It brings me to TEARS that he held on to that pain his whole life. I am sobbing right now. I understand that pain. You hope you get over it but it clings to your soul.

I am so upset about this, RIP Doc, you were a beautiful soul.

Why are the Ripa's involved with every famous person? Enough!!!

Was he confirmed gay? I thought he just had the standard eurotrash look.

It's pretty clear that most of the Marys who reside in Maryville have come on this thread to express their outrage at Tina Fey, who is obviously worse than Pol Pot.

You're a sweet person R94.

Some people go through life so broken and hurt that one act of cruelty is impossibly hard.

The Doc held on to his pain his whole life, this is so sad, and it was two degenerates in America culture to drive him to his death.

I officially hate Tina Fey and Martin Short.

This reminds me of that muscley gay therapist who killed himself in New York right before his "change your looks to find happiness" guide to life was published. It's a terrible story that people can be so miserable with themselves that they make cosmetic changes while pretending everything's fine on the inside.

On the other hand, it's a really awkward situation for Tina Fey, whom I generally love, but for the sake of this discussion, let's call her Tina "Scarface" Fey. Now, sure, her facial issue was perpetrated upon her by a crazy adult when she was but a child. But still, you know, looks.

It's also awkward for Martin Short. I mean, the scenes he was in were HILARIOUS. I didn't realize it was such a blatant parody of the man who created the Madonster.

Pol Pot was funnier.

I love you R98.

r97 made a Pol Pot reference? Really? R97 must be over 80.

Amazing that that little bitch makes fun of someone else's appearance given the husband she married.

And does Martin Short realize how waxy and tight his latest facelift looks?

Now I want to get Netflix so I can watch this show!

I love you, R93. You, too, R97.

r100, the scar used to be really noticeable, but not anymore. She's had some really effective work done on it. I never see it anymore.

no r108 it is still there. They just have better makeup for HD TV nowadays.

Is R94 for real? Is that post a parody? Because you have no idea if any of that shit is true. And you sound like an insufferable weak sister.

Oh, good God, R94 - how do you function in normal day-to-day life? You are so sensitive! Poor thing! lol

R110,

sensitivity is not weakness, nor is kindness.

This awful culture better turn itself around or we'll be circling the drain very soon.

Grow A Set!

Martin Short is an underappreciated comedic GENIUS. That skit was gut wrenchingly funny,my stomach muscles hurt !

why do people post articles from the daily mail here?

R104:

Fey, herself, has famously said she didn't lose her virginity until she was 24. And if you look at photos of her from when she was in her teens and twenties, she was, to put it mildly, plain-looking.

Her equally plain-looking husband, I'm guessing, was probably the first man who ever gave her the time of day. So, like a lot of people before them, they probably went from being strangers, to being acquaintances, to being friends, to being lovers, to being husband and wife.

Fey since then has become rather good-looking and wildly successful. The husband, not so much.

I admire her for staying with the guy who, apparently, loved her from the get-go. And I admire him for being a mensch.

The New York Times story also referenced his devastation at the parody.

Well, the surgeon made a parody of so many patients' faces. I can only assume that having a face full of those sorts of procedures creates a sort of optical illusion. People looking in the mirror must be so hypnotized by the sight of the tight, shiny, wrinkle-free parts of their face that they don't see how odd it looks to others.

Is Fey's husband a dwarf?

R29 and the MRA ilk, stop trying to derail the topic to being about women, gilda radner, barbara walters, tina fey, martin short or anyone else...the doctor committed suicide. If anything, it's a reflection of how mental health is still so stigmatized. And, btw, I think the clip of Short was funny, because the doctor was a walking billboard for so many things f'd up in society.

His bizarre, deeply immature and hideous sense of fashion, never mind all the face slashing he perpetuated and CLEARLY underwent himself, spoke to the absurd attachment people have to 'youth'. I mean, my gawd! His face, his demeanor...those SHOE choices! No. Just, no. Not on an elderly man who, if he'd had one more face lift would've needed to cut his wang off his face. Talk about a nose job!

[quote]flag: [ww] [ff] [troll-dar] Cause of death was by hanging, right? Why would an MD, who could get his hands on any pharmaceutical, doff himself with a rope? You'd think someone like that would know exactly how much and what to take to gradually drift off 'to death', painlessly.

by: Anonymoustreply 73t04/06/2015 @ 11:35PM

Very astute observation. I am guessing that his self-hate must have been so great that it didn't allow him the option of dying relatively painlessly.

Here's a great comment from Gawker:

[quote]Having pulled myself out of the deep, dark pit of clinical depression, I don't believe people commit suicide because someone did an impression of them. I believe people commit suicide due to an underlying condition that will often cause them to perceive mundane things as cataclysmic events worthy of dramatic action. Attributing a suicide to a poorly-received impersonation is not a particularly healthy conclusion to make.

Now I really want to see Tina's show...it sounds great.

So this guy goes to great effort to make himself look like a freak...but it was a comedy show that drove him over the edge.

r51 said a mean thing first... r62

His products are very expensive and sell well, which I find ridiculous as no one looks like him or Madonna through using serums and creams.

I'm sorry for the man and don't doubt he felt empty and sad. His value system was fucked. It is not desirable for people in their 50's and 60's to have freakishly smooth baby skin and unnatural plump cheeks. It fools absolutely no one, it does not make a person sexually alluring or make others gasp at how they have cheated the ageing process. People just sneer and mock at the self-delusion going on.

R121, and the quoted poster, hanging is the choice of the angry suicide, as is throwing yourself off a building or into a train. He was very, very pissed off at something or someone.

Pills indicate a sad suicide, a desire to simply disappear.

I just love how datalounge, of all sites, prissily accuses Tina Fey of 'bullying' this guy.

If she was a man , and hot, you'd all be defending her right to mock who she likes. A right we all enjoy here, daily.

We are now at the point where all the procedures that were supposed to make someone look young, makes them look older.

I recently made a grown man gasp when I pointed out that botox had changed his look from that of a nice looking 50-something man to that of a 70-something grandpa with money to burn. I used to find him hot. Now, I cannot imagine who would ever fuck him.

I agree with R122, or rather the quote pasted by R122. All kinds of mockable TV characters are "based loosely" on real people.

If you want a public profile these days, you have to be psychologically capable of letting cruelty wash over you. Hating celebrities is a hobby for many people, how they get their kicks.

Helen Mirren once said that she copes with fame by understanding that there are two Helen Mirrens. One she lives with, and controls the choices of, and who she hopes is seen as likeable and a good actress and so on. And another Helen, who is not really Helen, but just stranger's idea of Helen. And the stranger may hate that second Helen, or love her, but that Helen is a fiction and the real Helen has no control over how people react to it.

Nobody has mentioned why this is the greatest shit ever.

This shit will follow Tina forever. She'll now be forced to be one of those stars who ages "gracefully" or she'll never live it down. In five years, let's see how she handles it.

[quote]...belittle fringy types who are vulnerable. This kind of humor was not popular in American culture until the 80's.

Are you kidding, R74? Belitting the "fringe" was huge in movies.

Are you saying you never saw black people made to look like buffoons, or sexist stereotypes, or gay people made out to be evil simply because they were gay, in old Hollywood films? It was ALL OVER THE PLACE. Poor people were shown to be stupid, someone who looked a little different was made fun of their looks, etc.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

Do we know for a fact that he wasn't a parody himself?

Yay Tina!

Oh please, why isn't Martin Short the horrible bully who will never live this down?

He must have been very lonely and there was probably no one in his life who loved him unconditionally.

No mention of a wife or kids?

R36 and others: I don't think it's the parody itself that people are taking issue with. It's the blatant hypocrisy that is being exposed about Tina Fey who has waded into sociopolitical topics of gender, etc., calling out, many times rightly so, the challenges women face, but while also constantly damning men, generalizing them in her writings as always either racist, idiotic, moronic, sexist, greedy or all of the above.

She has bitched about "fat shaming" and about how women are supposedly constantly, in every corner of society, judged by their looks, and she admonishes those she thinks are guilty of that.

Meanwhile, she shills drug store hair products (with nasty chemicals in them) and openly mocks someone who obviously has psychological issues yet who likely she had never met and who never did anything nasty to her.

So, she deserves all of this, and more. She lives in a massive glass mansion and she's constantly throwing stones. Now, many of those stones are being tossed back her way and she deserves them all.

Sorry, that should have said "R136 and others"..

My mother's plastic surgeon looks exactly like the Martin Short character. WHere's the proof the TV character was based on this particular physician?

I've kind of wondered that too, R141. The hair is from Brandt but he's never been that orange/tan. And isn't one of Short's eyes crossed?

But it's not like Fey can say, oh, we based him on other creepy plastic surgeons. People will think she's trying to off even more of them.

I'm sorry that anyone had to bite the big one. But, that was one weird looking old queen. How could any celebrity or socialite want, let alone pay, him to advise them on improving their appearance (?). Is this what our culture has come to as a higher standard of beauty?

Comedy constantly makes fun of people.

Fey is not to blame for this tragic death.

If you think otherwise, unless you are going to expect that comedy no longer subjects anyone to mockery - and I doubt very much you do - than you are being very short-sighted and hypocritical.

Unless you are going to demand that all comedians from now on treat everyone with the utmost respect - and you don't! - then stop blaming Tina Fey for this death.

strange freaks

r136,

If Martin ever gets any work done or (if it's found out that he's had it done in the past), I assure you that this shit will be thrown back in his face as well.

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Martin Short: When asked if he’s had any work done, he said, “Men should never have plastic surgery. Ever. No matter how good it is, they always end up looking like a burn victim.”

So Tina Fey made fun of a man who made millions by selling bogus overpriced creams and potions to insecure celebrities and socialites, even though he is a dermatologists and knows that most of that crap does not work and somehow Tina Fey is the bad guy here?

Have we become so sensitive that if a person calls someone on their scam or their bullshit they're now labelled a bully? We can't tell the truth, not even in a tongue in cheek way anymore because that might make us "mean"?

I'm sorry he died, but one look at his face is proof that he was clearly full of self loathing. A healthy well adjusted person doesn't kill themselves because someone made fun of them. He killed himself because he hated himself. That's not anyone's fault. He is proof that if you spend your whole life trying to only improve your outside, you will end up a sad empty shell. Tina Fey is not responsible for his death and neither is anyone else.

[quote]Tina Fey's Bullying Cause Dermatologist's Suicide!

I guess she really got under his skin.

R150 If only W&W still existed...

A 65-year-old man who makes a duckface for photos is not playing with a full deck.

He was a public figure who looked ridiculous. He obviously had personal issues which made him jack up his face. That has nothing to do with Fey. The guy was already a mental case. He chose to kill himself. Fey didn't put a gun to his head.

When the mirror was held up and he was confronted with the reality of turning himself and his patients into freaks he couldn't deal. Nobody's fault that this snake oil salesman offed himself, the jig was up.

[quote]I'm amazed Madonna picked him. She seemed savvier?

She didn't have a pre-nup with Guy Ritchie who ran off and took her money. Nope, not savvy. Just a no-talent skank.

It seems as if he had many friends but no real love in his life. It's sad when you obviously have so little feeling of self-worth that you're going to self-mutilate and style yourself so ridiculously. I think most people would choose a normal-looking 65-year old who was "real" over this unfortunate-looking soul.

R149 And Tina Fey sells Garnier hair products on television, as well as takes that extra effort to glam it up on the red carpet like every other Hollywood starlet out there. Just how exactly is she in a position to call anyone else out on forcing beauty ideals on the public? Please.

I'm not saying she was responsible for what happened. But she clearly doesn't practice what she preaches. She's a bit of a hypocrite herself.

Dying is easy. Comedy is hard.

[quote]Martin Short: When asked if he’s had any work done, he said, “Men should never have plastic surgery. Ever. No matter how good it is, they always end up looking like a burn victim.”

That's rich coming from a man whose face is stretched within an inch of its life.

[quote]R97 made a Pol Pot reference? Really? R97 must be over 80.

Either that, or I have an education that extends beyond the 6th grade.

Which is it then R97?

I know r157, I can't believe she wears makeup, shocking. She's also been known to take showers regularly and wear matching shoes. How dare she force those unrealistic standards of beauty on the viewing public!

R157 Are you retarded? There's a big difference between selling shampoo and putting on a gown for an award show and filling women's faces with chemicals.

It looks like we have a consensus on this thread:

The suicide victim clearly had some deep rooted psychological issues that were going on long before anyone even heard of Tina Fey.

In a world full of nasty and vicious bullies, calling Tina Fey a bully is actually amusing and entertaining to all the sane people out there.

This thread has brought out the most hysterical, pearl clutching Datalounge Marys in recent history.

I'm glad everyone agrees.

I hate Helen Mirren. She is such a phony and people just eat it up.

I had an acquaintance here in Dallas who looked remarkably similar to this guy. He was 58, lots of plastic surgery (possibly from this doctor), duck lips, stretched look, bleach blond hair.

Committed suicide last year.

[quote]Steve Higgins, an S.N.L. producer, observes, “When she got here she was kind of goofy-looking, but everyone had a crush on her because she was so funny and bitingly mean. How did she go from ugly duckling into swan? It’s the Leni Riefenstahl in her."

R163 Hair coloring products, foams and oils aren't "just shampoo". Do you have any idea what Garnier sells, precious? Banish the gray away, indeed!

And there are a million ways to look glamorous on the red carpet without having to ape the current standard A list starlet gown and look.

If you're going to tackle the issues of people forcing beauty regiments on the public, then perhaps the message would be better sent from someone who isn't stumping for beauty products and conforming to Hollywood's idea of what glamorous should be every chance they get. Just saying.

There's not much a difference, so stop embarrassing yourselves trying to explain it.

I watched that episode the night before he killed himself.

I knew who they were mocking because they went out of their way to parody every detail, including his name.

I thought it was hilarious, but was shocked at how cruel it was. It seemed very personal.

So you are retarded R157/R168.

Stumping for bargain basement drugstore hair color isn't the same as walking around with freakish facial deformities in a grotesque parody of beauty.

I can't believe how many posters have missed that he wasn't a plastic surgeon, but a dermatologist.

A fucked up dermatologist. He's the one who pushed botox through the FDA.

He was fair game. He was a social climbing, celebrity loving fame whore.

I laughed my ass off at Martin Short's impression.

If you dance out onto the public stage to make yourself a celebrity and create revenue for yourself, you are absolutely fair game for parody.

I think Fey helped him realize how the others perceived his appearance. Perhaps the apocalypse was too overwhelming for him.

For the dainty queens upset by Martin Short, let's pause for a minute and watch John Belushi as Elizabeth Taylor...

Or how about SCTV's hilarious "Liberace's Musical Tribute to the Holidays"

Brooke Shields and her mom Terry: "The Brooke Shields Show"

[quote]bitingly mean

The producers on SNL liked Tina because she was mean. And bitingly so.

PARODY - look it up.

I remember watching that Belushi/Taylor clip when it aired. It was hilarious and outrageous at the time. It was before the internet

To have that much work already indicates a lot of personal insecurities and issues...

Someone who is insecure about their appearance - seeing it mocked on TV for millions to laugh...is going to have a much harder time dealing with it.

If an anorexic girl were made fun of for being overweight on national TV (or netflix) she'd also probably lose it.

John Goodman was great as Linda Tripp on SNL.

Um, why do we have to choose sides? Everyone involved in this sordid story is a creep, pure and simple. They all deserve each other.

SNL: Michael Jackson, LaToya Jackson, Liz Taylor at Neverland...

Faulting Tina Fey for comedic meanness on datalounge is like faulting Ann Coulter for unthinking knee-jerk conservativism on freerepublic.

I wonder how many people were bullied into suicide on DataLounge. The bullying I've seen on here is beyond words. And by fellow gay people. I am disgusted. It's no wonder this site has a bad reputation.

Nobody even cares about that. This site is a sick joke.

Was Dr Brandt selling way overpriced skin care products? He wasn't some obscure doctor.

Liz Taylor would have committed suicide in the 70s/80s if she took to heart everything that was said about her. The doctor was probably suffering from Borderline Personality. Suicide is common.

SNL: Janet Reno...

[quote]everyone had a crush on her because she was so funny and bitingly mean

Well isn't that nice.

DL doesn't seem as bad as the rest of the internet

I read wonderful things here all of the time, lots of support and love is dispersed freely among the vitriolic humor.

I've never liked her since her BS parodying of Sara Palin. Even though I don't like Palin, I felt Fey showed extreme bullying and took it to a low, personal mocking level. I think she's disgraceful. It's not funny when someone takes it so far. Disgusting unfunny human being.

One of those new, of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "bullying"

[quote] Faulting Tina Fey for comedic meanness on datalounge is like faulting Ann Coulter for unthinking knee-jerk conservativism on freerepublic.

That's not a fair analogy. The Reno/Walters comparisons don't make sense either. By all accounts, Brandt was a nice very guy (by people he knew or professional colleagues) despite whatever inner demons he may have had. A more apt analogy would be if Tina had gone after Richard Simmons, another guy who most consider batshit insane. But, of course, she wouldn't have done that. And, not because she knew he was unwell (unlike Brandt whose depression was not public), because nobody ever went after Simmons like that even during the height of his career when that would have been perfectly acceptable.

While Simmons may have been parodied and lampooned for shakin' his booty, nobody ever went after him in the personal way that TF did with the doctor, even down to his name. It's not like she was just parodying the culture of plastic surgery in general. I'm more inclined to believe what someone upthread said, that this was personal for TF.

I just watched the show. I heard of his skin line but never knew what he looked like. There are dissimilarities between him and the character. Quite a few actually. The only similarities are the blond hair and pulled face. Otherwise, Short ' s blond hair is long, face is fake orange tan, and he has an accent. And he's short. I think the character was a compilation of several people and when I saw it I was reminded do Short in Father of the Bride.

[quote] One of those new, of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "bullying"

Blame it on a world without Joan.

Another word that is losing it's meaning - Bullying.

[quote]The bullying I've seen on here is beyond words.

No one is forced to come here. It's not like having to go to school everyday and being assaulted. No one is IN YOUR FACE screaming. Grow the fuck up.

While I am sad that the man took his own life, I don't blame the comedians in the least. We all regularly encounter things that hurt us in life. How we react to those hurts is entirely up to us.

Obviously Tina Fey was not the only factor in the suicide. But Tina Fey has a long history of meanness and cruelty, even outside of her comedy.

Beat me to it r193

R194 Bullshit

Jim Carry as Richard Simmons.

Can't wait for the next time she hosts SNL, so that she can do the opening monologue as Lady Macbeth.

[quote]I've never liked her since her BS parodying of Sara Palin. Even though I don't like Palin, I felt Fey showed extreme bullying and took it to a low, personal mocking level.

Idiot R192 doesn't even understand what the word "bullying" means:

Oxford dictionary: "Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something:"

Imagine that in the context of Tina Fey vs. Sarah Palin...

That parody almost made me kill myself, r201. Especially the fact that it insinuates, I'm a (*gasp*) a homosexual! As I explained on ET in the early, I'm just too darn busy with my career to have a wife and kids, as of course is my dream like every normal heterosexual dude.

[quote]I've never liked her since her BS parodying of Sara[h] Palin.

I'm so glad I don't know you.

How many people is Tina Fey going to kill before the people rise up and say ENOUGH?

Bullying is bullying R205. I said I don't like Palin, but I also don't like to see anyone bullied.

Please do, r204.

Richard Simmons, Shantay, you stay.

Did you remember that, r201, or did you look that up on YT?

If you watch the Franff scene, there is a clear difference.

Palin was not bullied. That is ridiculous. And it dilutes the meaning of that word to render it useless to communicate.

She is a public figure. She was running for the second highest office in the land.

She is also appallingly stupid, craven and unfit for the job.

Fey had an OBLIGATION as an American and a comic to use humor to show how unfit for office Palin is.

r207 you think she's bullying Sarah Palin? That's ridiculous.

There's no way anyone can connect Kimmie Schmidt with his suicide. Why aren't people blaming Martin Short? He starred in it.

The DR was a wacko and had a lot of other issues. Clearly.

I am not a fan of Tina Fey's. I don't think this is her fault. She was just making a joke. MD's skin became too thin after too many peels.

I have never paid to see Tina Fey in anything and will never pay to see her ever.

Poor MD, hope he finds peace now. He was a lost soul.

[quote] Fey had an OBLIGATION as an American and a comic to use humor to show how unfit for office Palin is.

Are you serious? There is nothing noble about what Tina Fey did. Do you honestly think the types of people watching anything with Tina Fey on it would have ever voted for Palin? She was pandering to a liberal audience, just like Dennis Miller does does with his conservative shtick.

R157 if Tina Fey was pushing some beauty agenda she would have done something about the scar on her face, yet she hasn't. She colours her hair, put make up on and wears heels and a dress to parties so, at worst, she can be accused of conforming to societies expectations. Suggesting women color their hair with a product that works is hardly the same thing as telling women to slop $200 moisturiser on their face knowing full well it doesn't work. You don't suppose that people, such as dermatologists, plastic surgeons, beauticians, ever made plain girls with facial scars feel bad about themselves do you? Do you think it might even happened to (gasp) Tina Fey who is a normal looking woman who works in beauty and youth obsessed hollywood? Where do you think this send up came from? She didn't mock dermatologists who spend their days curing skin cancer, she made fun of a ridiculous person selling false hope to rich ladies.

And r194, I can think of very few others who were as mercilessly mocked as Richard Simmons during the height of his fame, so you make no sense.

R194 The Jim Carrey/Richard Simmons parody is much more mocking:

"Someone is combining fruits with their protein!

If Tina Fey did not do her Sarah Palin impersonation, Sarah Palin would have been VP and possibly President by now.

r213 it was low hanging fruit, but no one else was pointing out that the appointment was bullshit.

The only reason Palin stuck around for so long was the MSM wasn't doing its job and exposed her clear unfitness for the job. That allowed SNL and Fey to to gain a greater status for the impersonation than they would have otherwise.

Also this guy was not really well known to the public, so it may have been more shocking to be made fun of on a show [?]

[quote] I can think of very few others who were as mercilessly mocked as Richard Simmons during the height of his fame, so you make no sense

Well, we obviously have different opinions about what mercilessly mocked means. I also didn't see that clip r201 posted as mercilessly mocking RS (except for one joke at the very end), parody yes. But, not compared to UKS.

Who are these other personalities you're talking about?

[quote] The only reason Palin stuck around for so long was the MSM wasn't doing its job and exposed her clear unfitness for the job.

Was because people wanted to fuck her! That was the only qualification she needed. Mainstream media? You're cute.

Please. Very few people knew what he looked like and only a few more than that really knew much about the skin care line because it was overpriced.

That is what I meant. Because he wasn't really known, it may have been more shocking.

Regardless, Subtract Tina Fey out of the equation and the self mutilated doctor still exists.

His sad depression was measured by the amount of silly putty in his face

The doctor sold his stuff on HSN or QVC, don't remember which but I saw him and thought to myself, no way am I buying shit from that creepy looking doctor.

I think Sephora carries his skincare line too.

r197 So you think cyber-bullying doesn't exist? Lots of people have committed suicide because of cyber-bullying. Mean comments on the internet can be just as harmful as hearing them IRL, especially to someone very vulnerable. I don't know what the fuck you're smoking.

In many ways cyber bullying is worse R226. The dog pile that happens is brutal.

Yeah, the fact people can be anonymous on the internet makes it worse too.

This isn't facebook. It's an anonymous message board.

r221 is more of a La Mer man, huh?

Tina Fey is an ugly unfunny Greek cunt.Dr Brandt did some bad work on Madonna and she is a an ugly unfunny Italian cunt.

R168, you have some bizarre vendetta against Fey. None of your arguments have any weight.

And please look up the word "regiment." Thanks.

But she promotes colorizing gray hair, she's the very embodiment of evil!

Jesus Christ you people are stupid...look at south park and every fucking person they have skewered. They had Tom Cruise in the closet, literally for a whole episode and not one person made fun of has offed themselves.

Fey did a parody of someone who puts himself out there in the public eye and looked RIDICULOUS. Boo Hoo...if he hanged himself do to that then he had a lot more mental problems than anyone knew.

R234, Shut up you stupid hypocritical cunt. If it had been someone you don't like pulling the shit Fey did you would be all up in arms about it. That's how you dykes you work. Iv'e seen it too many fucking times and it's about time you got called out. You bitches pull this kind of shit all the time. So FUCK OFF and take your hypocrisy with you.

none of you marys are going to address the big, self-hating, gay elephant hanging in the room?

If ever there was an argument for bringing back W&W, it's R236.

LOL, r236. Listen to yourself. If he were really gay, he'd have been in the gym gaining mass, counting carbs, and wearing flannel.

Someone should parody Fey doing shitty shows based on SNL.Let's see how long her fragile ego lasts.

[quote]One of those new,of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "bullying"

yes, just the same those new,of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "homophobia" or "gay-bashing" or "hate-crime"

Oh, no! R240 is BULLYING those of us who are part of the LGBT community!

My feelings have been hurt! Nay, my spirit has been CRUSHED! I DO believe I'll go off myself now, clutching my pearls as I do so!

YOU HAVE MY BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS, R240!!!

Oh, please, he was playing in the big leagues. Sure, he wanted the money and fame, but he didn't have the guts that go with the consequences of the money and fame.

So if Tina Fey were to write a skit that portrays the Obamas as a family of apes eating bananas and throwing their feces, it would also be comedic gold, not bullying, racism, or what ever other "meaningless go-to word of the moment " we use ?

Wow you're an idiot.

Oh, hush up, r241! The only reason you're so bitter is because as a theatrically effeminate, elderly gay man you already might as well be dead.

If you think about it, you're kind of like that doct...

Oh, shit, girls! Quick, what's r241's number so I can call in a well check?

OH NOS! It wasn't until I watched his little serum video that I realized who this guy is. I use his 'Pores No More' product and it's a-maz-ing! Now I'm sad he's dead & am scared they'll stop making it!

R246 Which pores no more product did you use and did it really work that well?

R247, I use the refiner. I have really bad enlarged/scarred pores on my nose & the girl at Sephora gave me a sample of this stuff and it's been fantastic. Of course it doesn't do anything to permanently shrink my pores, but it covers them up without looking like I'm wearing makeup (I'm a guy) and it has a really nice matte finish that lasts all day. I'm on eBay now debating whether or not I should stock up before there's a run on the stuff. It's definitely not cheap.

[quote]I've never liked her since her BS parodying of Sara Palin. Even though I don't like Palin, I felt Fey showed extreme bullying and took it to a low, personal mocking level.

What makes this moronic post even more comical is that Fey's "parody" of Palin involved her dressing up as Sarah Palin and then doing a skit in which she recited Palin's own words, almost verbatim. The joke was that Sarah Palin was already a joke in and of herself.

[quote]One of those new, of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "bullying"

The same goes for those other annoying new, of-the-moment, mindless, go-to words: "homophobia" or "gay-bashing" or hate-crime"?

( well at least by your hysterical knee-jerk logic)

EASY THERE, Norman Bates!

r248,

Maybe they'll rename the brand Franff and make into a media tie-in?

Actually, R234, I think Parker and Stone of "South Park" behaved a LOT worse than Fey, especially with how they dealt with Isaac Hayes.

Hayes, a Scientologist, on multiple occasions defended their right to satirize Scientology, but also apparently spoke to them privately and asked them to not lie about the church.

Parker, Stone and Comedy Central pitched a fit. P&S launched into a public slam campaign on Hayes. They publicly said Hayes wasn't sick and his stroke in 2006 was faked for sympathy. They harped on that for two years, saying Hayes wasn't sick and being taken advantage of by Scientologists, as some suggested, because his Scieno handler was acting sketchy.

Then Hayes dropped dead of a stroke and Scientology acted very strangely about the whole thing.

People had far LESS of a hissy about that incident than they have about Brandt. I don't know if the times have just changed or what, but that situation was FAR creepier than this one.

It's starting to get brought up again, though. The book Going Clear mentions the whole fiasco -- see R 521 in the old DL thread I linked.

[quote]So if Tina Fey were to write a skit that portrays the Obamas as a family of apes eating bananas and throwing their feces, it would also be comedic gold, not bullying, racism, or what ever other "meaningless go-to word of the moment " we use ?

You are the Mother of all fucking morons.

Didn't Tina do an episode of 30 Rock where she goes back to a high school reunion, terrified because she recalls being bullied, only to discover everyone hated her because she was an intellectual bully?

Life imitates art.

fun fact since there have been a few mentions of Richard Simmons here...

A few years ago, he participated in LA Gay pride. At the festival (the west hollywood park where you have to buy tickets to get in), Richard was working with some anti-bullying organization and was stationed at their booth for several hours.

I paid $10 to have my pic taken with him, mainly so i could chat with him for a minute. Every penny of proceeds went to the anti-bullying group.

Richard Simmons is harmless, funny, and I think he genuinely wants to help people.

A case of bullying someone in the media that isn't talked about is Howard Stern and that girl from Diffrent Strokes. It was all humiliation bullying a day before her death/overdose.

The picture of the doctor with Marc Jacobs at OPs link is about the gayest photo I have seen in a very long time. Seriously though, that is too bad that he felt he had to take his own life.

Depression as we are seeing from others, Robin Williams for example is a very serious issue.

Many folks will be affected by his passing certainly.

He looked really good here. Still like a man. No plucked eyebrows, normal hair color, not too many fillers yet. regular lips.

Yeah, he had issues and his looks got progressively worse in a feminine kind of way.

R260 your link goes to a page of ultra fem images. WTF are you talking about?

I do think Brandt was unstable long before the skit but none of it excuses the fact that Fey is an insufferably unfunny cunt. I just dont GET her and this whole infatuation with her or the other one, Poehler. If anyone can explain the attraction/humor, Id be grateful because, again, Im genuinely bewildered.

Their jokes are so unoriginal, safe and prosaic, its embarrassing. urgh.

Martin Short can be a prick. He used to joke about how his Thurm character was based on an SNL makeup artist and he thought it was funny when she figured it out.

Nasty, nasty man.

The not making fun of the powerful is very true. SNL made fun of Barbara Walters because she was on ABC.

If she was on NBC you would have never seen one sketch.

Look at how Andy Cohen stopped the spot-on impersonation of him by Taryn Killiam. (sp)

Andy Cohen was visibly rattled by the SNL spoof.

He seemed so "off" and self-conscious on his show after it aired.

Of course, within the week, he was back to being a narcissistic tween girl.

While I'm sitting at home psychoanalyzing people, Tina Fey (I think this is in her book although I've heard her say it) makes a big point of how she's not one of the "damaged" girls. She then goes on to talk about how she wants to make sure her daughters don't grow up to be "damaged" girls.

Seriously. Tina IS damaged. Thou dost protest blahblahblah. It's not (just) because of the attack she suffered as a child but also a result of bodyshaming. She's so out of touch with her own psyche that she didn't realize parodying someone could be hurtful. I don't think she's the "cause" of his death but her actions are an indication of a mean streak.

Hello. R262 again here.

Can someone answer my question please? Why the fuck is Tina Fey considered funny and a comic heroine to women everywhere?

This question is genuinely torturing me.

R267 MRA types don't have a sense of humor. Don't overthink it.

Tina Fey is an insufferable cunt, anyone who has worked with her in the industry can confirm that . I truly hope this destroys her career.

[quote]So if Tina Fey were to write a skit that portrays the Obamas as a family of apes eating bananas and throwing their feces, it would also be comedic gold,

Of course not, because it would not in any way reflect the actual behavior of the real Obamas. Portraying Dr. Suicide as a weirdo with a freaky plastic face is funny because he actually was a freak like that in real life.

[quote]Yes, Fey has a mean streak. She's just like Gilda Radner.

Gilda did have a mean streak. She talked dirty to the animals!

R268

I have no idea what MRA means. Can you use a simpler, less pretentious reasoning?

Im not overthinking it. Im asking because everywhere I go, hoards of fraus wet their knickers at the mere mention of her name. She's like a cult leader, which makes no sense to me as she has zero game. And is soooo generic.

Blame them, not me.

It means you have a problem with the vagine, asshat @r272.

Tiny Fey is one of the mean girls. Shame on her and all of her kind. She is not funny.

Ridiculous to blame Fey or Short for anything of this.

The man fucked people's faces up for a living. It is a disgusting trend that needs to be dragged out in the public square and flogged.

His emotional state has nothing whatsoever to do with the bigger issue at hand.

Judging from this picture, he may have had other reasons for suicide. He looks very ill here.

And yet Tina Fey's face is supersaturated with botox.

Is the comment above true? Tina had a vendetta because the doctor was at one time her dermatologist?

I think their fans want to prove that women can be funny,r272.

Fey and Short were well within their rights as comedians to exploit the comic potential in that frozen-faced plasticized man and his equally grotesque profession.

Fey should feel no guilt whatsoever. End of story.

[quote] Andy Cohen was visibly rattled by the SNL spoof.

Any links? Doesn't seem like its on YT.

[quote] She makes a big point of how she's not one of the "damaged" girls.

What the hell is a "damaged" girl? Does this mean eating disorder? Please, anyone who's read her book, do you know what she's talking about?

They all say what a sweet generous man he was so it's kind of sad. I do think that he had A LOT more issues going on and he was fair game for parody. I can remember the first time that I saw a picture of him, I thought that it was someone doing a parody of him. He reminded me of Andy Warhol, instead of selling portraits of themselves to the rich and famous, he was selling a face to them. Not to mention the hair and the scene making etc etc. Andy would have been depressed at the parody but then he would have been thrilled with the extra exposure.

Oh, put a suicide-stained sock in it r268.

It has nothing to do with Fey being a woman, and everything to do with her being a receptacle for nastiness, like so many so called comedians.

Fey, Oswalt, Louis CK, Bill Mahr, South Park boys, Kaling, Stewart, among others

They're all just deeply angry, smug individuals that have made their negative personality traits into their shtick. That resonates with a good number of people, though.

I like Amy Poehler because she seems balanced and her humor doesn't come across like she's working out some deep psychological trauma like the other fuckwits I mentioned above. I'm her audience, not her fucking therapy session. Thanks, Amy, for getting that. If anything, she's actually not one of the "damaged" girls.

I also like Silverman and her bizarre comedy, at least what I've seen of it. Haven't seen Schumer, yet, though.

"They're all just deeply angry, smug individuals that have made their negative personality traits into their shtick."

THIS

THIS

THIS

Plus they are slaves to a corrupt system and never question it lest it interfere with their greed.

Tina and Martin had nothing to do with it. His vanity killed him.

Well if that impersonation didn't kill him, this thread certainly would have.

So...which rentboy did he leave his estate to?

My guess R277, would be one of these lucky boitches in the pic.

Just watched the episode. there was no need to make the character so on the nose. It was obviously intended as a parody of the doctor. Very mean-spirited.

Christie Brinkley just made a statement about Brandt's being bullied. Good for her.

Fey's pedestrian mom humor really seems to resonate with the frauen on this board, who have rallied in defense of their milquetoast idol. Raise the bar, ladies!

I wish Dr B had been of more sound mind and able to laugh at himseld....he might have shown up as Martin Short's evil doppleganger in an episode a la Donatella Versace and Maya Rudolph. Such a shame.

If he did that to himself, he obviously had a lot of issues with how he looked. Maybe Fey's portrayal tipped the scales somewhat, but it certainly wasn't the only thing that pushed him over the edge.

Who will do my face now?

Is mark jacobs wearing a red skirt in that photo of the two of the outside a Chelsea restaurant?

A damaged girl is a girl who suffered some type of abuse, either bullying, self harm, sexual abuse, emotional etc

A damaged girl=fat.

Ooooh, Dr. Brandt! Are you happy to see me? Or do you have a syringe in your pocket?

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He couldn't bear to grow old.

She's not even funny. Her whole routine is about mocking others. That does not make you a great comedian. Like someone said, she only make fun of those who are easy targets.

[quote]except the miserable cunt has not said one fucking word, not even a tweet of condolence over the death of someone she knew personally

She didn't know Brandt personally. You're just making stuff up because you want to sound self-righteous.

Brandt's spokesperson has said that she felt the show was "bullying" but that he did NOT kill himself over the show. Fey's husband has spoken to the press and said it was very sad, but he didn't know any details, and didn't think Tina did, either.

[quote]She's so out of touch with her own psyche that she didn't realize parodying someone could be hurtful. I don't think she's the "cause" of his death but her actions are an indication of a mean streak.

Her "mean streak" is a teeny tiny fraction of the mean streak most other male comedians have.

Think of all the rotten things George Carlin, Bill Hicks, David Letterman, Johnny Carson, Howard Stern, Ricky Gervais, Gary Shandling, Larry David (jeez I could go on) have said about specific celebrities, naming them, usually repeatedly. Jokes about killing them, how ugly they are, running gags about plastic surgery or boob jobs, jokes about serious illnesses or accidents, making fun of gays, etc. I've seen Steve Martin call out just regular ordinary non-famous people because he thinks all plebes are stupid.

Tina Fey is tame, PG-rated and family friendly compared to those guys.

I'm obsessed with watching his videos on YouTube. He is fascinating.

i admit that joing math league is social suciude. and you cant sit with us if you do.

The man was mentally ill. Anyone who does that to their face and looks so frightening is horribly fucked up. Imagine the way people who interacted with him reacted to his face.

Listen to him lie all the way through this interview on The View about how one should keep it natural and there is a limit to the amount of plastic surgery, fillers and Botox required. A direct quote "You don't wanna go beyond the Valley of the Dolls...".

oh come on people. Yes, it's sad this man felt he had no other choice than to take his life but it's not fair to say a comedic sketch based on him drove him to suicide. You're telling me that a 60-something year-old person who is very successful can't handle being parodied? As others have said, he obviously had other issues. Every time I saw him on tv his face looked awful. Who would go to a doctor who fucked up his own face so badly? I'm not the biggest Fey fan but it's not fair to blame her for this guy's suicide.

Well aren't you all reasonable and logical r307. Don't you have a burning desire to blame a person you don't know for the death of some other person you don't know? You may be too normal for datalounge.

R304, there is a clip of dr. B when he was much younger with dark hair. He WAS handsome at one point in his life.

R303 is right. Tina is tame in comparison. I'd speculate the poor doc was exhausted trying to keep up appearances, put on a happy confident face to the public, sell youth to celebs and continue to fight Father Time himself. This was probably the straw that broke the camels back. An early death is a blessing to someone who is terrified of aging.

Below are some pics of Dr. Brandt when he was younger. He was on the handsome-ish side and really fucked up his face unnecessarily. Maybe he was depressed about that.

Also, let's keep in mind this man was not just a doctor. He was a doctor who actively sought fame with his numerous tv appearances! If you want fame, you have to take the good with the bad. The good is that it brought him more celeb clients and a product line which increased his wealth. The bad? with his unnatural-looking face he opened himself up to scrutiny and being made fun of.

Since when is caricature the same as bullying?

This is bullshit.

If lampooning people were the same as bullying people into doing harm to themselves, the "bullied" - who include just about every one - would be offing themselves constantly and just about every creative person in pop culture would be accused of bullying.

Especially in this case. How many people could have seriously drawn the connection between this particular prototype for a character and the character itself?

Grow a pair. Get a sense of humor. You cut up people's faces for a living. One would think you'd have some degree of perspective about what is really a slight.

R303, please don't compare Bill Hicks to Tina Fey. Seriously.

One was visionary, far ahead of the pack, ripped off with impunity in death and Hicks "punched up". Via comedy, he exposed the corrupt, crude, fascist mind control in American media. Tina just makes smug trifles for the media set. Get real.

Not to mention the fact that Hicks was actually funny, R313.

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I'm not comparing talent, R313. Get off your high horse.

Bill Hicks had a joke about killing Billy Ray Cyrus. It was obviously social satire and a joke but it was explicitly about gunning him down.

People like you praise him for this social satire, but then turn around and say Fey, who was explicitly condemning the body mutilation and snake oil people like Brandt sell, was cruel and "trifling."

Both were making sociocultural commentary. Just because you like one more than the other doesn't somehow mean Fey killed a man through her cruelty.

[quote]Brandt would spend hours reading negative comments about his own looks online.

And which website of all would our quite delicate flower put at the top of his list, would you think?

Tina Fey has very little to do with it. Even DL has very little to do with it. When someone with body dysmorphic disorder comes online to see what people have to say about their perception of him, that's a sure shot recipe for disaster.

Getting old is no easy task for anyone. It's harder for people in the gay community because gays rely so much on beauty and youthfulness and you most of us won't have kids to take care of us when we won't be able to do that anymore. Add body dysmorphic disorder and the absence of a life partner or a boyfriend for more than a decade to the mix and I get it: best thing you can do is to off yourself. As a doctor I would probably have used opiates with barbs to do that, but whatever floats his boat...

Now here's the odd thing: I'd never had found out about Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt if not for this suicide and what can I say: I've just become a huge fan of Fey. Bye bye Cathy, Hello Tina! I hope she continues her "mean streak". And I hope mentally labile folks stop playing the self-bullying game of googling their names and reputation...

I wonder if everyone defending that malicious cunt, Tina Fey, Emmy Award Winning Bully/Murderess, would be so forgiving if she had made a public mockery of an over-botoxed plastic surgery addicted comedienne & talk show host , who just happened to hang herself after seeing a grotesque humiliating parody of herself on that show.

She was old, depressed,would have hung herself anyways nothing to do with the show or Ms Fey, certainly not a tragedy since she made herself into a freak in the public spotlight, right?

Just a rhetorical question, but something to think about, huh?

She's a murderer!

R315 he is 10 years old there.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

So, it's fair game to intentionally belittle a gay man for having a plastic surgery obsession but nary a word is made about the anorexics/bulemics white women who are starving themselves into an early demise.

After all, these ugly, sickly stick-women are rich but they are also being hypnotized by a false beauty standard.

Again, why was he singled out for derision and not some skinny bitch?

Hey, let's write a skit showing a famous actress skinny-bitch who sticks her fingers down her throat and vomits up her meals.

That would be hilarious!

And let's pick one who lives alone and has a history of depression!

Hehehehe!

Hehehehe Tina Fey takes laxatives and shits out her meals to stay thin. She really stinks up the bathroom.

She also sticks her dirty fingers down her throat to barf up her food! It's so funny!

Hahahaha she really worries about her looks. And she wears makeup to cover up her ugly scar! Because she's so embarrassed about it! Hehehehehehehe

Maybe Dr. Brandt told Fey that he could not help her with her facial scar, her crazy eyes or do anything about that permanent snarl she walks around with and she got mad and vowed to parody him at every opportunity.

RIP Dr. Brandt. Sorry it had to end this way.

R321 / R322 / R323

Calm down you hysterical harpy.

Hehehehehe Tina Fey has a nasty scar on her face--it's so funny!

She's such an anorexic, ugly bitch. Bet she dies from a stoke because of her self-starvation! Hahahaha hehehehehe hohoho

R326 It IS funny! I'm so glad you got the joke!

Don't forget that she is also married to a little person! A little person she called a "wigger" on Weekend Update! LAMFAO!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, Tina is not a mean-spirited bitch with issues, she's a hoot! And also a holler!!! (Somebody please that girl a vibrator.)

[quote]Hehehehehe Tina Fey has a nasty scar on her face--it's so funny!

hey, that is NOT cool, Tina is very sensitive about the blemish on her face, and for your information it is nor even a "scar", it's just the mark that a ten foot pole leaves when a man is finally drunk enough or desperate enough to touch her big fat hairy Greek shitchute.

R327, she has a huge colection of vibrators, but if you do send her one make sure it is black, she really hates to have to wash them.

Seems that nearly all of Tina Fey's gynecologists also committed suicide after taking her on as a patient.

Weird. Fey and Short are obviously so deeply angry about their own lack of attractiveness. Then they get together and conspire to kill someone whose job it is to make people look more attractive. Weird.

R329 I ain't spendin' no money on a vibrator for Fey. I happen to be saving up for a Ouija board.

Fey can just sit her big ass on her washing machine while it is in spin cycle for all I care!!

If you can stop bitching about Tina Fey, why not watch episode 10which has a fabulous parody of a movie musical called "Daddy's Boy." It has a few recognizable Broadway actors plus Robert Osborne.

R332,

So glad about the Ouija Board. Soon you will be doing a seance for Tina Fey's career.

Barump-a-bump.

[quote]So, it's fair game to intentionally belittle a gay man for having a plastic surgery obsession but nary a word is made about the anorexics/bulemics white women who are starving themselves into an early demise.

Oh, for fuck's sake, Mincy McButthurt, do you *really* think no one ever belittles, mocks, parodies, and otherwise makes fun of anorexics, bulimics, women who get excessive plastic surgery, etc? That freakface doctor is hardly the only person whose bizarre appearance and pathetic obsessions have ever made him the butt of a joke.

Short looks repulsive with his own tight pulled, waxy face. He was always dug but now he looks like a waxwork.

I love when Fey & Short team up as a comedic duo, but my God who would have ever thought Martin Short would ever get to be the "pretty one"?

R334 After I get done asking Elvis if he and John Lennon are friends now I will do a séance for Fugly Fey's career.

If only the dead doctor knew about his two fangirls he might not have hanged himself. Too vain to live.

In that link at R298, he's pulled so tight that he can't close his mouth to pronounce "m"s and "b"s, etc.

People really trusted him with their faces? So fucked up.

Oops, I meant R304. Sorry.

See, R337, you ruined your own joke by putting quotation marks around it.

I think it's funny that people who don't find Tina funny are screeching "she killed him!". It's ok not to like her, to find her annoying, to not be amused by her, you don't have to get all nuts and accuse of murder. We get it, you don't like her but don't pretend you really believe this is her fault. Nobody is that dumb surely?

R343 Of course she didn't murder Dr. Brandt. Brandt took his own life and suicides are usually years in the planning.

It is just outrageous and therefore funny to use the word murder in connection with this story because the Daily Mail's accusation is just that ridiculous.

Bitch is too old to be making fun of people!

Get over your stupid high school mean-humor bitch.

If you haven't developed any sense of wit by now you never will.

Withered vagina, scar-faced, witless- shithead bitch.

Holy shit at R276's photo!

"GOD is in his HOly TEMple! GOD is in his HOly TEMple!"

[quote]except [Tina Fey] has not said one fucking word, not even a tweet of condolence

ORRR...maybe Tina Fey isn't the type of attention-seeking cunt who tweets condolences about random people?

Look at how many fucktards have to get in their $0.02 when a celeb dies. Like, yes, I'm sure Robin Williams' widow felt soooo much better knowing that @RandomTwitterFuckhead felt #omg #sosorry over his death!

On the bright side, his estate will probably get a discount if he is embalmed as he completed about thirty percent of the process already.

Did she ever apologize?

There's nothing to apologize for.

Tina Fey's new commercial is atrociously unfunny.