'X Factor New Zealand' Judges Under Fire for 'Bullying' Contestant
Well, that escalated quickly. Two judges for The X Factor NZ, the TV talent competition's New Zealand spinoff, are facing heavy backlash for their nasty words to one contestant during a live broadcast on Sunday night. The married couple Natalia Kills and Willy Moon, both musicians and performers, took a swift dislike to the young singer Joe Irvine
"I'm just going to state the obvious: we have a doppleganger in our midst," began Kills, an English pop singer who has toured with LMFAO. Appraising Irvine's natty blue suit and slim tie, she continued, "As an artist who respects creative integrity and intellectual property, I am disgusted at how much you have copied my husband, from the hair to the suit. Do you not have any value or respect for originality?"
Her words only grew harsher as she further compared Irvine to her husband Moon - who, conspicuously, was not wearing a blue-and-white suit combination that evening. "You're a laughingstock," she added. "It's cheesy, it's disgusting. I personally found it absolutely artistically atrocious. I am embarrassed to be sitting here in your presence having to even dignify you with an answer of my opinion... You make me sick."
As Irvine struggled to maintain composure onstage, and the studio audience booed, Moon added his own damning judge's critique. "It's like Norman Bates dressing up in his mother's clothing. It's just a little bit creepy," said the New Zealand-born singer-songwriter, referencing the villain of Psycho. "I feel like you're going to stitch someone's skin to your face and then kill everyone in the audience."
The backlash to Kills and Moon has been swift. TV3, the network that broadcasts The X Factor, called the incident "bullying" on its Facebook page.
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | February 21, 2021 1:21 AM
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Video of Willy Moon's biggest song. (It sucks.)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 2 | March 16, 2015 1:12 AM
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Two bullies trying to make themselves seem relevant and cool!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 16, 2015 1:22 AM
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Natalia Kills is a no-talent English cunt who has changed her stage name multiple times over the years in a desperate attempt to launch a music career which bombed terribly with each attempt. Why they chose her out of all people to judge a talent show is beyond me.
And I had no idea she was such a cunt. No wonder her "career" went nowhere.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 16, 2015 1:32 AM
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She got decimated on Twitter.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 16, 2015 1:41 AM
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[quote]Why they chose her out of all people to judge a talent show is beyond me.
As a New Zealander, I'd like to answer your question. It's because there's basically no-one here with enough musical talent and success to do the job, so they find talentless hacks that have some mediocre tie to NZ and are desperate for work instead. X-Factor here is a joke. The judges are nobodies, the contestants are terrible, and ratings fall every week.
Natalia Kills and Willy Moon are the two most hated people in New Zealand right now. It's everywhere. The fact that Natalia started swearing at the audience during one filming didn't help, nor did Willy swearing at a lady in a bakery and then the two of them unleashing a tirade of abuse at the victim and the newspaper when it was reported.
Basically, they are classless, talentless, uneducated and rude halfwits.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 7 | March 16, 2015 1:46 AM
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What a cunt. I can't believe she's serious. I thought she was Jessie J speaking of copying others...
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 16, 2015 1:46 AM
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Well, when you don't have the talent, stunts prevail. Natalia Kills what little there was of her and her husband's "careers".
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 16, 2015 1:51 AM
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There are 70k+ signatures already on a petition to have Kills removed as a judge. The latest post on the petition says that Kills tweeted this and then deleted it:
[quote]I don't give a flying f*ck what anyone thinks, I'm the judge, I get to say what's what, and there's nothing any of you can do about it. #NuffSaid
Which pretty much sums up her attitude about it at the moment. She thinks she's above criticism.
Because, you know, she's the holy grail of pop princesses.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 10 | March 16, 2015 1:58 AM
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I honestly forgot she exited until I heard about this. Rita Ora is hot shit compared to her!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 16, 2015 2:00 AM
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The best part was when the other judge kept saying, "Actually, actually, actually!"
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 16, 2015 2:05 AM
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They sound like Myra Hindley and Ian Brady from bad pop music
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 16, 2015 2:08 AM
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Were those judges high? What a train wreck. Both will be fired tomorrow.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 16, 2015 2:08 AM
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I watched the clip and she's a cunt and so is her husband. I have no idea who any of the judges are. Never seen any of them before.
R7 speaks the truth. Anyone with any talent or aspirations left NZ as soon as they could get out of there. I was born and raised in Auckland and left on a one way ticket, $500 and a suitcase at the age of 18 in 1988. I'm now Australian and have lived here ever since. I would never be able to live there again and most of my high school classmates have left NZ never to return.
It's a shame as New Zealand is such a progressive and beautiful country but whenever I visit it now I barely recognise it.
I didn't know they even had an X Factor NZ! I am going to search out torrents as it should be fantastic to watch! Sort of like NZ's Top Model is to watch and cringe at.
Very rural.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 16, 2015 2:13 AM
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[quote]They've been fired.
And thank goodness for that. At the end of the day, I don't think the production company had much choice.
My heart bleeds for the two of them. BLEEDS.
[quote]TV3 sacks X Factor judges Willy Moon and Natalia Kills for bullying contestant on live TV
TV3 has sacked X Factor judges Natalia Kills and Willy Moon after the husband and wife bullied a contestant on live TV last night.
Mediaworks, the owners of TV3, confirmed it had fired Kills and Moon just hours before the pair were due to feature on tonight's live elimination show.
It's understood the media company was under extreme pressure from sponsors to take action against the pair.
In a statement to 3News, Mediaworks chief executive Mark Weldon said: "Last night on X Factor both Kills and Moon made comments that were completely unacceptable.
"While the judges on X Factor are expected to provide critiques of the performances, we will not tolerate such destructive tirades from any of the judges," he said.
"Contestants put their all into this competition and they should expect to receive feedback and criticism that is professional and constructive. We no longer have confidence that Kills and Moon are the right people to perform the role of X Factor judges and they will leave the show, effective immediately."
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 17 | March 16, 2015 2:15 AM
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Yay! I am going to download and watch!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 18 | March 16, 2015 2:19 AM
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Love this tweet from the other judge Mel Blatt
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | March 16, 2015 2:24 AM
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"They've been fired."
Apparently, the contestant was dressed to Kill.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 16, 2015 2:29 AM
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[quote]Re: 'X Factor New Zealand' Judges Under Fire for 'Bullying' Contestant
So they're not just under fire but they're fired! Good work.
Also, good publicity for the show all things being equal.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 16, 2015 2:31 AM
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They are awful, but the other judge is sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 16, 2015 2:32 AM
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Natalia Kills killed her "career".
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 16, 2015 2:41 AM
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She attacks him for being "unoriginal" and stealing people's looks, but she looks like she copied Bettie Page and Dita Von Teese, not to mention that even Katy Perry has donned that hair/look. I can think of others like Janeane Garofalo in REALITY BITES and Krysten Ritter in BREAKING BAD. In other words, it's not original.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 16, 2015 2:42 AM
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[quote]As a New Zealander, I'd like to answer your question. It's because there's basically no-one here with enough musical talent and success to do the job, so they find talentless hacks that have some mediocre tie to NZ and are desperate for work instead. X-Factor here is a joke. The judges are nobodies, the contestants are terrible, and ratings fall every week.
The venue is so small. Usually things look bigger on TV (I remember being amazed at how small the TRL place was in person), so I can only imagine how much smaller it really is. There's no stage, and everyone is pretty much huddle together. It looks makeshift, like a sound stage dressed up to resemble a theater. Do they not have the money or something?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 16, 2015 2:45 AM
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People on Tumblr were comparing her godawful haircut to Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka and Lord Farquad from Shrek. It's funny as fuck cause it's true. What a spiteful cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 16, 2015 2:46 AM
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[quote][R7] speaks the truth. Anyone with any talent or aspirations left NZ as soon as they could get out of there. I was born and raised in Auckland and left on a one way ticket, $500 and a suitcase at the age of 18 in 1988. I'm now Australian and have lived here ever since. I would never be able to live there again and most of my high school classmates have left NZ never to return.
James Cameron, perhaps the most powerful director in Hollywood, just moved there last year with his family from LA.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 16, 2015 2:46 AM
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[quote]The venue is so small. Usually things look bigger on TV (I remember being amazed at how small the TRL place was in person), so I can only imagine how much smaller it really is. There's no stage, and everyone is pretty much huddle together. It looks makeshift, like a sound stage dressed up to resemble a theater. Do they not have the money or something?
No definitely not. That's part of the reason it bombs. We don't have the population to justify spending anywhere the amount that overseas X-Factors do - not that the money is there in the first place. When we try to copy things like X-Factor we tend to fail. Better off just watching the overseas versions I think, if one desires. We have our own version of The Bachelor coming soon and it looks cringe-worthy beyond belief.
[quote]James Cameron, perhaps the most powerful director in Hollywood, just moved there last year with his family from LA.
Sure. It's a great place to raise a family if you are in the right area and you make a decent amount of $$.
We just aren't good at the whole providing talent thing. Our sportsmen and women, though, hold up pretty well in a lot of sports (I imagine a lot of which aren't played widely in the States).
We just need to stick to what we are good at - mainly, providing tax incentives for film-makers and providing excellent scenery (it's better in real life) - not reality shows.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 16, 2015 3:01 AM
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[quote]James Cameron, perhaps the most powerful director in Hollywood, just moved there last year with his family from LA.
Doesn't make any difference R28. New Zealand is dead in the water...
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 16, 2015 3:53 AM
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[quote]James Cameron, perhaps the most powerful director in Hollywood, just moved there last year with his family from LA.
But he's already famous, so it doesn't count. The only New Zealander I'm aware of who didn't need to leave to become famous is Peter Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 16, 2015 4:00 AM
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This show is still a thing?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 16, 2015 4:22 AM
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Wow, who the fuck are these two psychopaths? Putrid, talentless millennial nobodies having a mental breakdown cause some kid wears a suit. The Ian Brady/Myra Hindlay comparison is apt.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 16, 2015 4:27 AM
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Peter Jackson's dead in the water too and everybody knows it.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 16, 2015 4:37 AM
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[quote]As a New Zealander, I'd like to answer your question. It's because there's basically no-one here with enough musical talent and success to do the job
Lorde?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 16, 2015 4:37 AM
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"Actually, Mel needs glasses." = lamest comeback ever
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 16, 2015 4:39 AM
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[quote]Lorde?
There's always one that bucks the trend and makes the rest of us look bad.
On a more serious note, I think she would be a real coup as a judge, but honestly I think it would be below her.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 16, 2015 4:41 AM
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R38: The contestant says, "I think I look pretty good." Natalia says, "Of course you look good, because you're dressed as my husband." The other female judge (Mel) says, "Actually (x5), you're dressed better than her husband." The crowd cheers and after a few beats Natalia comes back with that line.
Mel's line was funny.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 16, 2015 4:54 AM
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These two are proof of how this generation is being fucked up with social media. They believe they're big stars and have music out with videos with millions of views and twitter accounts with many followers when in fact no one knows these two narcissistic twats. They are gross. Makes me want to turn off everything.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 16, 2015 4:55 AM
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NATALIA KILLS @NataliaKills · 7h 7 hours ago
I love you guys, thanks for your support & understanding my passionate opinions! You know what they say about me...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 41 | March 16, 2015 4:58 AM
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As if no other men have that hairstyle or wear suits. That lady is off her meds.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 16, 2015 4:59 AM
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I don't understand her husband looks very generic. Plenty of guys look like him.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 16, 2015 4:59 AM
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Her Twitter and Instagram accounts are being flooded with nasty comments.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 16, 2015 5:09 AM
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Am I the first one to mention that she worked on Madonna's new album?
I have to mention Madonna since this is DL.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 16, 2015 5:13 AM
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I'm sure the kid's devastated after being hauled over the coals by Nobody and his wife, Whatserface!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 16, 2015 5:28 AM
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[quote]Her Twitter and Instagram accounts are being flooded with nasty comments.
Unbelievably, she's actually gained about 4k Twitter followers in the last 24 hours. Having said that, she seems to me the sort of person who would buy followers, so I'm not sure what to think of that.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 16, 2015 5:31 AM
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How do you buy followers? I see this all the time and I don't understand it. Do people actually pay others to follow them? Like, do they set up a PayPal account or something?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 16, 2015 5:44 AM
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There are even review sites on which services offer the best services for buying twitter followers.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | March 16, 2015 5:49 AM
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R49 I still don't get it. So they're buying fake followers?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 16, 2015 6:04 AM
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R50: Yes. From time to time, Twitter and Instagram do a purge of these fake accounts.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 16, 2015 6:09 AM
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r50, She doesn't have to buy followers. Believe it or not there's people out there who saw her irrelevant ass and her tirade and thought it'd be good idea to follow her on twitter.
At first I thought this was an attempt to say something really outrageous and go viral but 99% of people hate her and her pasty white nobody husband so not sure it's going to be effective.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 16, 2015 6:15 AM
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I went and had a look at the comments on her Instagram and BOY they are nasty. Every 10 seconds there seem to be another 20 comments on just the image I was looking at. They are going insane! Here's a few of the nicer ones:
m_brogan_ We all hate you
johnnieguilbertsthugpugs Bitch you are an ugly piece of shit
vintageheart14 Xfacotr is not about clothes. If it was, u wouldnt be the judge anyway you skank hoe motherfuker bitch ass cunt fuck chode sucking piece of frozen corn.
johnnieguilbertsthugpugs How do you even have fans? Your so fucking rude
nymph.j_ I thought that the hate train came out of Natalia's mouth last night, and I'm sorry but that crazy bitch deserves those comments. Nobody wants to be humiliated by some pcyhco on live TV. That is the height of bullying and I'm sorry, but she deserves every last bit of it, and so does her emotionless retard she calls a husband
anacantsurf WE ALL FUCKEN HATE YOU BITCH.
haiimdarryl You still want to post anything on instagram and twitter after everyone hates you? Haha you're "cheesy" and "disgusting" you have no originality.
flowersanddd UGLY BITCH
ronjahpriv You copied ugly
3189 Whatever chance at a career this ugly cunt who obviously copied Dora the Explorer had is over!
lizziekanj You are so fucking pathetic and ugly, you are a disgrace to society
caitlin.co.nz YAY YOU GOT FIRED YOU PIECE OF CRAP, HOW COULD YOU DO THAT!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | March 16, 2015 7:06 AM
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[italic]X Factor husband and wife judges Willy Moon and Natalia Kills have accused an Auckland mother of lying about an abusive encounter she had with Moon at a bakery.[/italic]
Worse was to follow in the bakery, Moon calling her a "c***" in front of stunned staff and customers. "This is a man who is supposed to mentor young people on national television and what he said was disgraceful," Ms Neal-Gailer said.
"I couldn't believe it when he twice hissed at me, 'You are such a c***'."
Today Moon took to Twitter to abuse Ms Neal-Gailer and the Herald.
"Not only a **** but a lying **** judging from that 'statement' you [nzherald.co.nz] saw fit to print. Laughable. Bored?," he posted.
He added: "'Woman proves my point by writing long inaccurate sad letter detailing how much of a **** she is'". Better headline."
His wife also came out swinging: "Why did you invent a quote my husband NEVER said?! He never apologized to that c*** lady. Stop defending her bullying," Kills wrote.
She added: "Hilarious that lady is proving not only how much of a c*** she is, but also a lying c***! 'Children present'?! Where?!"
Moon earlier told the Herald on Sunday that Ms Neal-Gailer deserved what she got.
"I seem to recall someone was behaving like a c*** and getting called a c***," Moon said. "It's as simple as that."
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | March 16, 2015 7:15 AM
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Are they doing meth together? Why are they so psycho? What's their personality disorders? Thank god for the hate and boycotts, this couldn't have happened to two more loathesome, worthless people. She's such a basic Frau too, always saying 'my husband' like it matters. Vile cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 16, 2015 7:24 AM
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I would definitely start with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and go from there, R55.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 16, 2015 7:52 AM
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OMG she's absolutely taking it up the ass on Instagram from people all over the world.
There's seriously 20 comments coming in every 10 seconds on that first pic. I been reading them for a hour now.
I've never seen anything like it. It's like watching a train wreck. So this is what it looks like when a social media turns its fury on one person.
Well, she earned it.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 16, 2015 8:06 AM
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I reckon they are aiming to be the Spencer and Heidi of New Zealand? Nobody can be that vile for no reason - got to be an act.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 16, 2015 9:18 AM
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Headline on the Daily Mail website next week:
NATALIA KILLS............
HERSELF!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 16, 2015 10:46 AM
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The best comment I saw: "Your husband looks like that guy who got plastic surgery to look like Justin Bieber." He does!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 16, 2015 12:39 PM
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If you google them, you can find news stories that show a history of cunty behaviour. They were likely picked to bring the controversy.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 16, 2015 12:45 PM
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So how did the poor guy getting bullied take it? Did he advance or what? I'd send him to the next round just for her cunty behavior.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 16, 2015 2:18 PM
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He was the first to be called out as being safe apparently R62. He's handled this very well.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 17, 2015 12:40 AM
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I love Michael K's take on this
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 64 | March 17, 2015 2:00 AM
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Hilarious R64. I loved the tags from his post.
Tags: Bitch Got Fired, Who?t
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 17, 2015 2:14 AM
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[quote]Has this Natalia bitch never been to a funeral before? Well, when she goes to the funeral for whatever is left of her career, she’ll see a bunch of dudes working that exact look. That’s if anybody shows up.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 17, 2015 2:28 AM
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[quote]Am I the first one to mention that she worked on Madonna's new album?
No wonder the album is flopping and on track to be her worst selling album ever.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 17, 2015 2:42 AM
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He does kinda suck though.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 68 | March 17, 2015 4:03 AM
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I watched the episode and all the contestants basically sucked.
But these two X Factor judges were both insufferable cunts to someone on live TV and crossed a line. They got fired and deserved it.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 17, 2015 6:04 AM
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Apparently the husband and wife pair have now fled NZ and gone to ground in LA.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 17, 2015 2:42 PM
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[quote]I was born and raised in Auckland and left on a one way ticket, $500 and a suitcase at the age of 18 in 1988. I'm now Australian and have lived here ever since. I would never be able to live there again and most of my high school classmates have left NZ never to return.
What's so bad about NZ?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 17, 2015 7:57 PM
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X Factor New Zealand judge Stan Walker: 'Natalia Kills got what she wanted'
By Ryan Love Tuesday, Mar 17 2015, 5:21pm EDT
X Factor New Zealand judge Stan Walker has said that Natalia Kills has achieved "what she wanted to" after gaining global attention for her sacking.
Kills and her husband Willy Moon were sacked from the show after aiming a controversial tirade of abuse towards contestant Joe Irvine over the weekend.
In a statement, producers said that they would "not tolerate such destructive tirades from any of the judges".
"She achieved what she wanted to. The world knows her name now," Walker, who remains on the panel alongside All Saints star Melanie Blatt, told Stuff.
"It was just being stupid, it went too far, it's good now it's over. That's what happens when you make stupid mistakes."
Walker described the pair's comments as "way off topic", but explained: "I actually feel sorry for them because they've got themselves into this, they're nice people you know - it's just with these stupid things, outrageous things."
The singer also dismissed any suggestion that the incident was a publicity stunt, describing it as "one big stress".
Kills and Moon have since departed New Zealand, being photographed flying to Los Angeles after their sacking.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 72 | March 17, 2015 10:51 PM
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[quote]James Cameron, perhaps the most powerful director in Hollywood, just moved there last year with his family from LA.
Without bothering to look it up I'd imagine he moved there to do the 3D work for the next Avatar films with Weta.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 17, 2015 11:06 PM
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Then you look like an idiot, R73.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 74 | March 17, 2015 11:18 PM
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R74, don't care enough about Cameron to mind being 'an idiot' about him. He did receive $125M from NZ for the Avatar films, though, so that probably did play some part in his decision.
Even without filming there and without Weta I understand him completely. I've always wanted to visit NZ and maybe even live there although I must say Once Were Warriors scared me a bit when I saw it 20 years ago. Loved it, though.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 17, 2015 11:31 PM
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[quote]I've always wanted to visit NZ and maybe even live there although I must say Once Were Warriors scared me a bit when I saw it 20 years ago.
Stay out of Otara and you'll be fine!
But seriously, unfortunately OWW has given NZ a bit of an image that we probably didn't need or deserve. I won't lie and say it's all butterflies and sunshine here - we have big issues with child poverty and domestic violence. Absolutely stuff like OWW happens. But if you come here, chances are very high you won't see it or experience it at all.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 17, 2015 11:40 PM
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Stan Walker likes a bit of homo love
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 20, 2015 6:30 AM
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So, watching from America. Who is right?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 21, 2015 4:56 AM
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Just stumbled upon this video of the two of them presenting an award at some NZ award show in November. It is truly painful.
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 80 | April 5, 2015 2:25 AM
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This is an old thread but this video just came up on YT feed. Jeez, what a couple of assholes. It's an amazing performance because it seems totally psychopathic. I would agree that the producers probably told them to exaggerate the meanness but they had no argument and chose to focus in on image and didn't know when to quit.
This is five years old but it is one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever seen. Needless to say, it really destroyed what little career either of them had.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | April 26, 2020 7:10 PM
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Even I want to smack his face.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | April 26, 2020 7:13 PM
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I still don;t get this weird thing of posting onto thread five years old, but this was interesting to me because I missed this controversy when it happened so long ago. It's interesting to see that neither of them ever apologized, and that both their careers immediately tanked. (He hadn;t much of a career before then--the highest any of his singles had ever charted in NZ was #26, which makes the accusations the contestant was copying him seem all the moe insane.)
What were they thinking? The only reason Simon Cowell could get away with being cunty was because he seemed to be saying (in a harsh way) what the audience was secretly thinking, and because he never seemed to be in competition with the contestants because he's not a singer. But these two sound ridiculously threatened, and are being far cuntier than Simon ever was.
Plus it doesn't help that the husband is so ugly and the contestant is much more attractive--the husband comes across as envious as well as threatened.
I'd love to see what they're doing now, but I couldn't find anything on the Internet. They seem to both have disappeared--the last anyone seems to have heard of her was back in 2018.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | April 26, 2020 7:35 PM
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Joe the contestant I often see on Grindr and often chats up my friend.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | April 26, 2020 8:26 PM
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R83 she goes by "Teddy Sinclair" now and her last Twitter post was over a year ago
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | February 21, 2021 1:21 AM
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