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The boyfriend in Til Tuesday's "Voices Carry" Video

The ultimate 80s yuppie asshole!

Love the disdain in his voice when he sneers "I'm SO happy the band's doing well"

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by Anonymousreply 59August 29, 2020 12:00 PM

I love this song & video. So what's the subtext? Does he beat her or is he just an unsupportive asshole?

by Anonymousreply 1March 11, 2015 12:51 AM

R1 - Good question. I can see it either way.

by Anonymousreply 2March 11, 2015 12:52 AM

I think the guy killed himself.

by Anonymousreply 3March 11, 2015 1:13 AM

Have loved this song since it came out and still have the CD which is played often.

Cully Holland has to be one of the biggest enigmas of music video history. IIRC he did one film and that is all you can find on the guy, he just literally vanished. Common noise on the Internet is he died but of how varies; some say of complications due to HIV/Aids, others via suicide. Even so there isn't even an obituary or anything else besides this video and the aforementioned film about him on the Internet.

On a side note *LOVE* the block of townhouses shown in this video. Think it is Back Bay area of Boston but not sure.

by Anonymousreply 4March 11, 2015 1:24 AM

R1

*He wants me but only part of the time* * He wants me only if he can keep me in line*

Draw your own conclusions.

The BF is a controlling AH who probably beats the girlfriend. That and or otherwise mentally abuses her because she won't fit into his *image* of what she should be.

IIRC from the time the original lyrics had "she" instead of "he" but the suits in 1980's music world didn't think lesbian references would sell the song.

Still remember seeing this video on MTV, back when that station was a big thing.

by Anonymousreply 5March 11, 2015 1:29 AM

LOVE this song ! Boy,she sure didn't age well ! Terri Nunn still looks damn good !

by Anonymousreply 6March 11, 2015 1:46 AM

You're joking, right, R6?

That's Aimee Mann, not Terri Nunn.

by Anonymousreply 7March 11, 2015 1:48 AM

After 40 it's your ass or your face, R6.

by Anonymousreply 8March 11, 2015 1:49 AM

I meant Terri Nunn from "Berlin" still looks hot. I sorta veered as I was typing. Im stoned. Very stoned.Aimee looks okay but not as good as Terri. For an 80s rock star.

by Anonymousreply 9March 11, 2015 2:26 AM

I imagine Aimee Mann knows what happened to him. She's still touring - someone should ask her.

by Anonymousreply 10March 11, 2015 3:17 AM

Second best wife beater in an 80s MTV video...

First prize goes to "Love is a Battlefield" escalator man:-)

by Anonymousreply 11March 11, 2015 3:25 AM

This song and video were HUGE at the time. Like the other poster said, this was when MTV was at its peak and everybody and their brother watched it.

by Anonymousreply 12March 11, 2015 3:30 AM

A hundred years from now, people will still say that the 1980s had the best music.

by Anonymousreply 13March 11, 2015 3:43 AM

The last time I saw Aimee Mann in concert while she was still good was The Acoustic Vaudeville tour with her husband Michael Penn and Patton Oswald as emcee. It was after the Magnolia smash. The show was a lot of fun, during Penn's big hit "Romeo in Black Jeans" Aimee sang a chorus in the voice of Ethel Merman. When Aimee did "Voices Carry' Michael Penn did a perfect impression of the guy in the video. "What did practice run late…"

He was nowhere near as hot as the god in the video though.

by Anonymousreply 14March 11, 2015 3:46 AM

After I watched the great "Voices Carry" video I checked out "What About Love" where she tantrum-danced badly in loud fabric looking like the cocaine buffet got devoured that night. I always thought the drummer was a cutie. Love "Coming Up Close" too. Okay I'm done.

by Anonymousreply 15March 11, 2015 4:12 AM

R14 Not so much for you, as I immediately knew the song you were talking about, but the actual title of Michael Penn's one hit that you mention is "No Myth", for anyone not familiar with it that might want to check it out on YouTube or Vevo.

by Anonymousreply 16March 11, 2015 4:32 AM

For Cully Holland fans he can be seen in Warbirds from 1989 on YouTube. It's horrible and only watchable because he spends most of the movie shirtless and checks all the fetish boxes.Shirtless and in tight white pants. Tied up and tortured shirtless.Gets tickled. At the end shows off his sexy legs and feet!

by Anonymousreply 17March 11, 2015 4:42 AM

Aimee Mann did a shot-by-shot remake of the Voices Carry video a couple of years ago for her song "Labrador". The guy playing the abusive boyfriend in the remake must have had a ball.

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by Anonymousreply 18March 11, 2015 11:43 AM

They stole my sound

by Anonymousreply 19March 11, 2015 11:58 AM

Cully Holland must either be dead, in prison, or simply didn't exist. *LOL* The man seems to have dropped off the face of the earth.

Just checked is IMB profile and it lists two films and one television show.

Besides War Lords CH did Dirty Love (1988) which also includes ginger Playgirl stud Reid Hutchins.

Not one comment on his discussion IMB profile, nothing, zip. Perhaps "Cully Holland" wasn't the guy's real name which would make running him to ground difficult.

by Anonymousreply 20March 11, 2015 1:10 PM

The video was strange. Aimee didn't seem like his type.

by Anonymousreply 21March 11, 2015 1:24 PM

Yes, it was filmed in Boston as that is where the band started out.

Way back on Pop Up Videos, it stated that Aimee Mann felt the casting for the video was off as this was totally not the kind of guy she went for.

by Anonymousreply 22March 11, 2015 1:36 PM

I found him hot though in his 80s yuppie way.

by Anonymousreply 23March 11, 2015 1:52 PM

IIRC, she was involved with the red-headed guitarist for a while as well, which is more her type.

by Anonymousreply 24March 11, 2015 2:02 PM

If this is Reid Hutchins (warning: NSFW) then wow, he's hung like an ingrown toenail.

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by Anonymousreply 25March 11, 2015 2:11 PM

R24 Surely Robert, the red-headed guitarist, is gay. I thought Aimee had been involved with one of the other band members - but not Robert. Maybe that handsome drummer?

by Anonymousreply 26March 11, 2015 3:51 PM

I remember being amazed this song was a hit. Nothing to do with the lyrics, on a musical level, I thought it was so lame, certainly including the singer.

by Anonymousreply 27March 11, 2015 3:54 PM

R26: no, I know people who knew them and Robert is definitely straight.

by Anonymousreply 28March 11, 2015 3:56 PM

She wasn't involved with the keyboard player. Don't know about the drummer. I dimly remember hearing she dated Robert for a while, but I could be wrong.

by Anonymousreply 29March 11, 2015 4:00 PM

the keyboard player in this band is so hot, I think he's a furniture maker or sculptor now.

by Anonymousreply 30March 11, 2015 4:10 PM

R30: yes, both. Very nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 31March 11, 2015 4:14 PM

Intelius.com shows there is a 57-year-old Cully Holland in Santa Monica, CA. He apparently also went by Kevin Joseph Gallery.

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by Anonymousreply 32March 11, 2015 4:17 PM

Aimee looks great now.

The thing is, 80s videos like this were shot on film with high production values. They're like mini-movies. They sort of demanded attention that way.

by Anonymousreply 33March 11, 2015 4:20 PM

It wasn't until I was much older that I learned that the one I thought was the other female in the group was actually a guy.

by Anonymousreply 34March 11, 2015 4:36 PM

Mann herself did a hilarious parody of the video years later.

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by Anonymousreply 35March 11, 2015 4:38 PM

R35, meet R18.

by Anonymousreply 36March 11, 2015 5:06 PM

R21

That was one of if not the point. Miss. Mann wasn't Mr. Holland's "type" and he tries to change her (the brunette wig, buying her nice jewelry, etc...) and then resorting to bullying and the rest when she wouldn't toe the line.

Regarding MTV don't think persons who weren't around for the 1980's realize how *huge* it once was.

Any place with young persons/adults such as bars, clubs, dorm room, apartments, etc... you'd hear that station blasting from televisions. Most bars would have it on video screens (with or without sound), ditto for clubs.

The first few "Vee Jays" were sensations was the new format of music videos. Yea, some things were cheesy but quite a lot has stood up over time. Oh and you had the first several seasons of "Real World".

by Anonymousreply 37March 11, 2015 10:37 PM

Agreed R37

This song was everywhere, my roommates and I just loved the video. "What an asshole", shake our heads like it was real.

The 80's were great; music was good, drugs were good, sex was good. Ah, walking down Westheimer in Houston...hitting all the clubs, buying tapes at Infinity Records, dancing to The Cure. Good times! :)

by Anonymousreply 38March 11, 2015 10:56 PM

Smash Hits referred to the guitarist as "Girl Robert," LOL.

by Anonymousreply 39March 11, 2015 11:04 PM

Not a fan of her voice but this live version is pretty good.

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by Anonymousreply 40March 11, 2015 11:13 PM

I wouldn't have expected when this song came out that Aimee Mann would become a respected, Oscar-nominated, bohemian singer-songwriter.

I thought she might go the way of Jane Child or Stacey Q, and never be heard from again.

"Coming Up Close" is another great song from that era that I've probably played hundreds of times.

by Anonymousreply 41March 12, 2015 8:05 AM

There was more blatant assholery in the '80s, for some reason. Many of the most popular '80s films had such blatant assholes. I suppose it was some time during the '90s when people started becoming more passive-aggressive, subtle, and pretentious with their assholery.

by Anonymousreply 42March 12, 2015 1:25 PM

Great song

by Anonymousreply 43April 1, 2015 4:09 AM

I loved Aimee Mann for over 30 years. I listen to an Aimee song everyday. She started 'Til Tuesday with her then boyfriend, drummer Michael Hausman. Not sure if I spelled his name exactly right but .... He is her manager today. You can seem him drumming in the Voices Carry video and the Labrador video. I heard that Voices Carry was really a gay song that she was made to change. I did find a copy of She Said Voices Carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5CI4rBzIsA

by Anonymousreply 44April 1, 2015 4:58 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5CI4rBzIsA

by Anonymousreply 45April 3, 2015 2:54 AM

There's someone in Santa Monica with the name Cully Holland as of 2012

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by Anonymousreply 46April 3, 2015 5:17 AM

OP, I always assumed that he was cheating on someone with her, and was embarrassed by her, or "couldn't be seen with her" for some reason. He didn't want anyone over-hearing them talking in public. That sort of thing.

I kind of identified it after having dated a closet case briefly (and never again).

by Anonymousreply 47April 3, 2015 5:47 AM

I'm in the biz. I've interviewed Aimee Mann and Terri Nunn. Terri is bisexual. Great interview with her. She was talkative and fun. Aimee was super super shy. Hard to get her to talk. Polar opposites.

by Anonymousreply 48April 3, 2015 8:53 AM

So did Holland kill himself or what?

by Anonymousreply 49June 27, 2019 1:11 AM

This is one of my favorite 80s songs. "Coming Up Close" was a great song too; shame it wasn't a big hit.

by Anonymousreply 50June 27, 2019 1:41 AM

Also, I was in high school when this came out, and a couple of the "cool" girls got their hair cut like Aimee Mann, complete with the "rat tail" braid.

by Anonymousreply 51June 27, 2019 1:47 AM

He’s alive and well.

by Anonymousreply 52June 27, 2019 4:11 AM

The video was so dumb. When he picks up the rat-tail and tosses it disdainfully, like he just now noticed it. And when she jumps up and starts shrieking that he told her to shut up - yeah, we all want you to shut up too, lady.

by Anonymousreply 53June 27, 2019 5:19 AM

According to google, Cully Holland died in 1991.

by Anonymousreply 54March 16, 2020 11:58 AM

I always loved the ending of the "Voices Carry' video, I can imagine myself looking at her then seeing his overwrought embarrassment staring at HIM.

by Anonymousreply 55March 16, 2020 12:29 PM

Finally after years of nothing concrete, someone put up a page on Cully Holland, and yes he died of HIV/AIDs in 1991.

There had been rumors and gossip that Mr. Holland had died, but nothing concrete in support of statements could be found.

Key thing missing was his real name; Kevin Joseph Gallery.

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by Anonymousreply 56August 29, 2020 11:23 AM

More.....

Mr. Holland would have had his 63rd birthday coming up in October.

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by Anonymousreply 57August 29, 2020 11:32 AM

Summer song. 80s style. Good times. Liked the song, but felt like then, and seems true now, that they were trying to fit Aimee into a sex kitten role and she just wanted to sing and play her music.

by Anonymousreply 58August 29, 2020 11:42 AM

I remember falling in love with this song (and the video) in the 9th grade.

by Anonymousreply 59August 29, 2020 12:00 PM
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