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Actresses who got a lot of buzz then nothing

I remember when Aliens came out the actress who played the very butch Vasquez was talked about a lot. Total Recall's Rachel Ticotin was the same. They seem to have only had very minor roles since then.

by Anonymousreply 153April 30, 2018 5:49 PM

Gretchen Mol was supposed to be the next big thing. While she's worked steadily, she never became a big thing.

by Anonymousreply 1March 1, 2015 2:53 PM

G.

by Anonymousreply 2March 1, 2015 2:58 PM

Monica Potter. She literally had that one movie, which saw her touted as the new Julia Roberts...then nothing.

by Anonymousreply 3March 1, 2015 4:46 PM

Claire Forlani

by Anonymousreply 4March 1, 2015 4:49 PM

Yes, R3, and I kept thinking she was Sarah Paulson from AHS. She looks like Julia Roberts too.

by Anonymousreply 5March 1, 2015 4:50 PM

Yo Mama

by Anonymousreply 6March 1, 2015 4:50 PM

Vasquez (Jenette Goldstein) gets a lot of love to this day. And she's always popped up in other Cameron projects. Remember, she got her head split down by a Terminator. She's a real chameleon, so sometimes the public can't get a bead on them.

by Anonymousreply 7March 1, 2015 4:51 PM

Kristy Swanson.

by Anonymousreply 8March 1, 2015 4:54 PM

Which movie R7?

by Anonymousreply 9March 1, 2015 4:59 PM

I still don't understand why I'm not huge.

I was gonna be huge.

I should be HUGE.

by Anonymousreply 10March 1, 2015 5:00 PM

Renee Zellweger

by Anonymousreply 11March 1, 2015 5:01 PM

Precious is huge but not a very good actress.

by Anonymousreply 12March 1, 2015 5:02 PM

"Vasquez" played the mom in Terminator 2. Almost unrecognizable!

She got her head split open while on the phone. A big silver blade from the new Terminator.

by Anonymousreply 13March 1, 2015 5:03 PM

I remember there being some buzz around the time of Star Trek Generations that Vasquez was in it. It was a blink and you'll miss her role. I think she was in the Sulu/Chekhov seat - navigator or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 14March 1, 2015 5:05 PM

Sigh....

by Anonymousreply 15March 1, 2015 5:07 PM

Chloe Sevigny

by Anonymousreply 16March 1, 2015 5:10 PM

That model in planet of the apes.

by Anonymousreply 17March 1, 2015 5:12 PM

There are the "It Girls" who get buzz and then disappear.

Then there are others who always go on working, but never really achieve star status. Rachel McAdams, for example.

I wonder if "American Sniper" is finally going to give Sienna Miller the bump up she's needed. Somehow I doubt it.

by Anonymousreply 18March 1, 2015 5:13 PM

I found a similar thread (see link) on a different board as I was looking for the name of the planet of the apes model/actress I referenced. Her name is Estella Warren, btw.

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by Anonymousreply 19March 1, 2015 5:16 PM

Samantha Mathis

by Anonymousreply 20March 1, 2015 5:18 PM

Emily Lloyd owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 21March 1, 2015 5:18 PM

Wow sorry that thread I referenced quickly devolves into being all about male actors. Sexism is alive and well, even when considering actors who didn't live up to the hype.

by Anonymousreply 22March 1, 2015 5:19 PM

Alicia Silverstone

Mena Suvari

Thora Birch

Molly Ringwald

Ally Sheedy

Anna Faris (at least she's got her lousy sitcom)

by Anonymousreply 23March 1, 2015 5:22 PM

Chloe Grace Moretz

Abigail Breslin

Fanning sisters

Rooney Mara

Lily Allen

by Anonymousreply 24March 1, 2015 5:29 PM

Megan Fox

Jennifer Garner

Jessica Freaking Biel

by Anonymousreply 25March 1, 2015 5:32 PM

I am hoping the charisma-free Dakota Johnson falls into this category quickly

by Anonymousreply 26March 1, 2015 5:37 PM

Didn't Thora Birch's crazy porn star parents have something to do with her career downfall?

by Anonymousreply 27March 1, 2015 5:38 PM

R27 - Yes! Specifically, it was her dad.

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by Anonymousreply 28March 1, 2015 5:44 PM

What a creep R28. What kind of Dad hangs around watching and directing his daughter's sex scenes? She could tell him to fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 29March 1, 2015 5:51 PM

Linda Fiorentino

by Anonymousreply 30March 1, 2015 5:53 PM

Linda sank her own ship by being a cunt on set according to the rumors.

by Anonymousreply 31March 1, 2015 5:55 PM

Hilary Duff

by Anonymousreply 32March 1, 2015 5:58 PM

For sure Gretchen Mol and Clair Forlani. I was surprised to see Mol show up in Boardwalk Empire and she was actually very good in her part.

by Anonymousreply 33March 1, 2015 5:58 PM

I watched Dakota Johnson last night on SNL and she actually has some charisma, so she might get some work.

by Anonymousreply 34March 1, 2015 6:01 PM

In the late 1960s, Karen Valentine was touted as the next great TV star. In the early 1970s, it was Sandy Duncan. Both women have worked sporadically ever since

by Anonymousreply 35March 1, 2015 6:02 PM

About every other up-and-coming actress on the Fanfair page of Vanity Fair.

by Anonymousreply 36March 1, 2015 6:03 PM

OMG, I remember Karen Valentine from Room 222 when I was a wee tot and my mom would watch it.

by Anonymousreply 37March 1, 2015 6:04 PM

But Precious has been working and hopefully, she'll be able to work until she gets her weight lose surgery, which I hope she gets soon.

by Anonymousreply 38March 1, 2015 6:04 PM

Rosario Dawson

by Anonymousreply 39March 1, 2015 6:06 PM

Young Barriefellow.

by Anonymousreply 40March 1, 2015 6:06 PM

Does Kate Upton count ?

by Anonymousreply 41March 1, 2015 9:05 PM

Dakota Johnson also made the most of her very limited material in 50 Shades.

To add to the list: Freida Pinto

by Anonymousreply 42March 1, 2015 9:16 PM

Ho'Nique

by Anonymousreply 43March 1, 2015 9:26 PM

"You can't sleep your way to the top. You can only sleep your way to the middle."

although... Olivia Munn is putting the thesis to the test

by Anonymousreply 44March 2, 2015 3:33 AM

Neve Campbell

Faith Prince

Tatum O'Neal

Marisa Tomei

Mira Sorvino

Annalyne McCord

by Anonymousreply 45March 2, 2015 4:11 AM

[quote]For sure Gretchen Mol and Clair Forlani. I was surprised to see Mol show up in Boardwalk Empire and she was actually very good in her part.

I was also surprised by Mol in Boardwalk Empire.

by Anonymousreply 46March 2, 2015 4:53 AM

Rachael Leigh Cook

by Anonymousreply 47March 2, 2015 4:59 AM

Kate Hudson

by Anonymousreply 48March 2, 2015 5:01 AM

Marisa Tomei....three Oscar nominations with one win..and a respected actor now in the industry ...constantly working...and you say she is nothing? Molly Ringwald wishes she was that type of nothing.

by Anonymousreply 49March 2, 2015 5:02 AM

Justine Bateman

by Anonymousreply 50March 2, 2015 5:09 AM

Meg Tilly had a decent run of almost a decade and then disappeared completely.

A few highlights:

Psycho 2

The Big Chill

Agnes Of God

Masquerade

Valmont

Leaving Normal

by Anonymousreply 51March 2, 2015 5:11 AM

Mo'Nique

by Anonymousreply 52March 2, 2015 5:14 AM

Penelope Ann Miller.

by Anonymousreply 53March 2, 2015 5:19 AM

Somehow I ended up at Meg Tilly's website the other day. She's quit acting. She's either an artist or a kid's book writer, I forget. It was kind of a weird site.

Someone who belongs on this list is the Cuntess Sean Young.

by Anonymousreply 54March 2, 2015 5:21 AM

Vasquez is unrecognizable as the Irish mother who tells her kids a story before they drown in Titanic.

I think she owns a boutique in LA that was featured on some reality show.

by Anonymousreply 55March 2, 2015 5:32 AM

Laura San Giacomo--I thought "sex, lies, and videotape" would make her a bigger star than she turned out to be.

by Anonymousreply 56March 2, 2015 5:36 AM

Isn't Laura Giacomo the narrator for the true crime series Snapped?

by Anonymousreply 57March 2, 2015 5:43 AM

R56, I think it was the unibrow that doomed her.

by Anonymousreply 58March 2, 2015 5:44 AM

Soleil Moon Frye?

Justine Bateman?

Morgan Fairchild?

by Anonymousreply 59March 2, 2015 5:47 AM

Karen Allen.

by Anonymousreply 60March 2, 2015 5:52 AM

Mia Sara

Shannon Sissamon

Neve Campbell

Renee Zellweger

Sarah Michelle Gellar

by Anonymousreply 61March 2, 2015 5:59 AM

Carrie Snodgrass? Candy Clark?

by Anonymousreply 62March 2, 2015 8:57 AM

Margot Kidder?

Patricia Wettig?

Cynda Williams?

Lori Petty?

Jennifer Tilly?

by Anonymousreply 63March 2, 2015 10:33 AM

Lori Petty, for sure.

by Anonymousreply 64March 2, 2015 5:07 PM

Cathy Moriarty

by Anonymousreply 65March 2, 2015 5:16 PM

Anjanette Comer

Skye Aubrey

Kitty Wynn

Pam Dawber

Marj Dusay

Yes, I am that old

by Anonymousreply 66March 3, 2015 3:01 AM

Tanya Roberts?

Judy Landers?

Karen Kopins?

Mary Crosby?

by Anonymousreply 67March 3, 2015 4:55 PM

Paz de la Huerta.

by Anonymousreply 68March 3, 2015 5:00 PM

Lori Singer.

by Anonymousreply 69March 3, 2015 5:02 PM

There were several foreign actresses in the early/mid-nineties: Greta Scacchi, Valerie Kaprisky, Nastassia Kinski, Maryam D'abo, Emmanuelle Seigner, Joanna Pacula, Juliette Binoche, Lena Olin, Emmanuelle Beart, and Isabella Idjani who had a tremendous amount of buzz around them. But nearly every one of them just seemed to vanish from Hollywood altogether.

by Anonymousreply 70March 3, 2015 5:19 PM

Franka Potente.

by Anonymousreply 71March 3, 2015 5:35 PM

Julia Ormond. Julie Warner (from Doc Hollywood - I think she went to Dalton with Jennifer Grey).

by Anonymousreply 72March 3, 2015 11:15 PM

[quote]Her name is Estella Warren, btw.

Warren has had drug and drink problems over the years. That would interfere with getting a foothold in Hollywood.

Samantha Mathis also had a lot of problems after initially hitting the scene. Zellweger seems to have had personal probs too but is making a comeback. Gretchen Mol was rumored to be a "Harvey girl" but supposedly fell afoul of him, ending her streak abruptly.

Some of the women mentioned left to raise families.

by Anonymousreply 73March 3, 2015 11:21 PM

Vasquez was also the Irish mom in Titanic who was tucking in her kids right before the boat went down.

by Anonymousreply 74March 3, 2015 11:23 PM

Yes, r41...with her hands.

by Anonymousreply 75March 3, 2015 11:25 PM

Looking back, I'm surprised that Penelope Ann Miller was in practically everything in the early '90s.

by Anonymousreply 76April 26, 2018 9:12 PM

R16 she wasn't good at blow jobs so she couldn't forward her career. Even worse she could have caught something icky from Vincent Gallo.

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by Anonymousreply 77April 26, 2018 9:21 PM

From 2000 onward, Penelope Ann Miller has been sort of a litmus test for me of how mediocre the movie is going to be.

by Anonymousreply 78April 26, 2018 9:33 PM

Poor Alicia. She became famous for playing one role perfectly. Then she gained weight, wouldn't stop talking about saving the animals and being a vegan (one-note repeated over and over again -- a sign she had no intelligence, education, or humor).

by Anonymousreply 79April 26, 2018 9:36 PM

R13, I don't remember her death scene, just her turning out to be the T-1000 and killing the husband while "she" was on the phone with John. I aways assumed she was killed offscreen.

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by Anonymousreply 80April 26, 2018 9:38 PM

[quote] Greta Scacchi, Valerie Kaprisky, Nastassia Kinski, Maryam D'abo, Emmanuelle Seigner, Joanna Pacula, Juliette Binoche, Lena Olin, Emmanuelle Beart, and Isabella Idjani

Kinski, Kaprisky, and Adjani are more of the early-to-mid 80's buzz.

Ormond went nowhere because she was/is truly mediocre.

by Anonymousreply 81April 26, 2018 9:40 PM

That blowjob with sevigny is such a farce. Love how Gallo licks his lips when she begins sucking on it, and he shoves her off it when he’s sensitive after he’s cum into her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 82April 27, 2018 12:07 AM

Binoche is one of France’s biggest stars so she doesn’t really fall into this category. I don’t think making it in Hollywood was one of her priorities.

by Anonymousreply 83April 27, 2018 12:23 AM

Chloe Sevigny has been in movies and TV shows for over two decades without a break - not exactly "then nothing."

by Anonymousreply 84April 27, 2018 12:28 AM

June Squibb

by Anonymousreply 85April 27, 2018 12:37 AM

Bridget Fonda

by Anonymousreply 86April 27, 2018 12:41 AM

Susan Anton

by Anonymousreply 87April 27, 2018 1:12 AM

OP is crazy claiming that Jenette Goldstein and Rachel Ticotin got buzz. (What???) But to answer the question:

Debra Winger. I seem to remember her being hyped up like crazy because of An Officer and a Gentleman, and then she seemed to disappear into the ether.

Lili Taylor. Totally blew everyone away in I Shot Andy Warhol and had everyone talking, but then fell into obscurity.

Julianna Margulies Yes, she's had a successful career but I remember her being hyped up as the next bombshell who was going to take Hollywood by storm like George Clooney did and become a major A Lister. Never happened.

Parminder Nagra. Made a huge splash with Bend It Like Beckham. Started slumming it on ER when it was on a downward trajectory. Starred in a failed series (Alcatraz), then later as a glorified extra in a series or two. Now is as good as obscure.

Jennifer Grey, and ironically because of that nose job that made her look better but removed her girl next door look.

Kate Winslet, who never really took off after Titanic.

Keira Knightley, who disappeared after Pirates.

Chloe Moretz, the modern day Alicia Silverstone/Drew Barrymore. I think people really thought she was going to be a big thing when she got older but she just kind of fizzled after Kick Ass.

Minnie Driver.

Toni Colette.

by Anonymousreply 88April 27, 2018 1:43 AM

[quote] Kate Winslet, who never really took off after Titanic.

Not really her fan but this is nonsense. She got nominated a gazillion times after that and finally muscled out that Academy Award.

by Anonymousreply 89April 27, 2018 1:45 AM

Lori Petty

by Anonymousreply 90April 27, 2018 1:52 AM

Throwing some love for Gretchen Mol in the American version of Life on Mars. The show was average-to-good, she was great. Probably better than Liz White was on the British original.

by Anonymousreply 91April 27, 2018 1:55 AM

Hilary Duff’s uglier and less talented sister Haylie Duff.

by Anonymousreply 92April 27, 2018 1:58 AM

Mariah Carey.

by Anonymousreply 93April 27, 2018 2:00 AM

Only because of Barbra Streisand and Steven Spielberg...

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by Anonymousreply 94April 27, 2018 2:02 AM

Hate to say it, because I like her, but Rose Byrne.

by Anonymousreply 95April 27, 2018 2:02 AM

Margot Kidder

by Anonymousreply 96April 27, 2018 2:05 AM

Jeanne Tripplehorn and Renee Russo.

by Anonymousreply 97April 27, 2018 2:15 AM

Rose McG*wan,

Nonconsensual cunnilingus victim.

by Anonymousreply 98April 27, 2018 2:19 AM

Jessica Alba

by Anonymousreply 99April 27, 2018 2:27 AM

Frieda Pinto

by Anonymousreply 100April 27, 2018 2:28 AM

Allison Elliot. Was featured on Vanity Fair's cover of hot young actresses. Got nice reviews in Wings of the Dove with Helena Bonham Carter and Linus Roache and literally fell off the face of the earth.

by Anonymousreply 101April 27, 2018 2:41 AM

R99 I guess her oral skills weren't good enough .......

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by Anonymousreply 102April 27, 2018 3:37 AM

[quote]Kate Winslet, who never really took off after Titanic.

Nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 103April 27, 2018 3:42 AM

R71 Fell what? Gretchen Mol had a bad rep for her sexual openness.Marion Cotillard played a slutty character in the film Mary who was called Gretchen Mol.

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by Anonymousreply 104April 27, 2018 3:46 AM

R76, You read my mind about Penelope Ann Miller. I have nothing against her. She seems perfectly likable but she STARRED in a lot of movies opposite actors like Alec Baldwin, Al Pacino, Marlon Brando, Matthew Broderick and for the life of me I can't figure out why. She wasn't beautiful or even particularly pretty; she was a decent but nothing special actress. Her career baffles me and then she finally just disappeared. I always think of Tobey Maguire as the male Penelope Ann Miller: he's not handsome, not sexy, not what you would call a chameleon in the acting department yet he has STARRED in a lot of movies. And now he seems to be gone. I guess eventually Hollywood comes to its senses.

by Anonymousreply 105April 27, 2018 3:51 AM

Ruth Buzzi

by Anonymousreply 106April 27, 2018 3:56 AM

Hillary Swank. 2 Oscars , dinner at in n out, Then zilch.

by Anonymousreply 107April 27, 2018 5:09 AM

Did Jenette Goldstein really have buzz around her when Aliens came out or is it just that people remember her character fondly?

Penelope Anne Miller at least converted her buzz into roles and stuck around for years. There are some actresses (see Vinessa Shaw) for whom no roles materialize.

by Anonymousreply 108April 27, 2018 5:38 AM

Mary Stuart Masterson.

by Anonymousreply 109April 27, 2018 6:17 AM

Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio.

by Anonymousreply 110April 27, 2018 6:23 AM

Catherine Mary Stewart

by Anonymousreply 111April 27, 2018 6:24 AM

Mary Louise Parker

by Anonymousreply 112April 27, 2018 6:26 AM

Linda Fiorentino

by Anonymousreply 113April 27, 2018 6:28 AM

Introducing Miss Kay Lenz.

by Anonymousreply 114April 27, 2018 6:30 AM

Disagree about Rose Byrne and Hillary Swank.

Byrne still gets good parts and Swank is in Danny Boyle's new TV series, Trust.

by Anonymousreply 115April 27, 2018 6:38 AM

R112 Mary- Louise had a biig show Weeds that lasted 8 season.

by Anonymousreply 116April 27, 2018 6:46 AM

Sherilyn Fenn - always seemed to be ripe for a comeback that never happened

by Anonymousreply 117April 27, 2018 6:55 AM

Cher

by Anonymousreply 118April 27, 2018 6:56 AM

Rachel Ticotin fucked Schwarzenegger while making Total Recall - didn't help her career. Had a small role in Falling Down - then zilch.

by Anonymousreply 119April 27, 2018 7:00 AM

Are some of the above actresses getting pap attention in Vanity Fair due to hiring fab PR Teams?

by Anonymousreply 120April 27, 2018 7:05 AM

Rose Byrne is doing great. The problem with Hilary Swank was that they tried to make her a mainstream Hollywood superstar. She's more of an indie level character actor. Or I don't know. She seems like a great actress but then you notice some weird disconnection with her and the character she's playing. It's like she has trouble making her characters feel real.

Someone brought up Lili Taylor and I like her as well, but the reality is that when you don't do comedy it's fairly hard to become a superstar if you don't look like a model or a beauty queen. There are only that many Meryl Streeps around, and Lili is definitely way more low key than her. That said she's worked constantly and has had a fabulous career. I adored her in American Crime when she played Connor Jessup's mother. BTW, Lily played 'an ugly girl' in Dogfight, where River Phoenix plays a Marine who's competing with his army buddies who brings the ugliest date to the party. That was probably the first time I saw her and I remember wondering what it was like for her to be playing a character like that. I remember the film being quite touching.

[quote]Vasquez (Jenette Goldstein) gets a lot of love to this day. And she's always popped up in other Cameron projects. Remember, she got her head split down by a Terminator. She's a real chameleon, so sometimes the public can't get a bead on them.

Wow, I never realized the woman who played Edward Furlong's stepmom is Vasquez from Aliens.

[quote]Linda Fiorentino

When I saw this thread the first name that came to mind was Linda Fiorentino. I actually remember buying Interview with her on the cover back in '95 and wondering who the hell is this.

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by Anonymousreply 121April 27, 2018 7:14 AM

Kelly McGillis

Emily Lloyd

by Anonymousreply 122April 27, 2018 7:15 AM

I removed Estella warren. I saw the planet of the apes remake. Horrible movie and she was horrible in it. The I saw her in a law and order episode. Like night and day.

by Anonymousreply 123April 27, 2018 7:15 AM

^remember not removed

by Anonymousreply 124April 27, 2018 7:17 AM

Mary-Kate and Ashley.

by Anonymousreply 125April 27, 2018 7:26 AM

Linda Fiorentino had an edginess that was directly from another era. If only she had been around a decade earlier! Lukewarm actresses like Liv Tyler, Gwyneth Paltrow and Michelle Williams were perfect fits for the Harvey age.

by Anonymousreply 126April 27, 2018 7:39 AM

Lisa Eichhorn Theresa Russell Lea Thompson Allison Lohman Blair Brown

by Anonymousreply 127April 27, 2018 7:46 AM

Ms. Tomb raider, Alicia Viklander. So boring I had to look up her name.

by Anonymousreply 128April 27, 2018 7:47 AM

This is so sad. Just saw this thread - and looking over the lists of actresses - sonme of whom were really very talented and you felt sure they’d go on to bigger things -

In the light of all the Weinstein revelations - you just know that a huge number of the women mentioned here either wouldn’t put out - or got sick of having to put out and refused to stop doing it anymore.

Amd I really wonder if some men f them who had breakdowns and mental health issues after their brief brushes with Hollywood - like poor Emily Lloyd - just were traumatised and broken. There might well have been alcohol or drugs involved too - but suspect that some of the usage involved was a form of self medicating.

Imagine wanting to act. In many cases studying and really applying yourself to the task - only to learn that you’re also expected to be a sex worker for the men in charge. That’s fucking appalling. Heartbreaking.

Now whenever I see a movie or show from years ago and there’s a bright young actress who pretty much disappeared - I always wonder what they went through.

And the ones who went on to longer careers - you always wonder what hey had to do - how compromised they were - to achieve that level of success.

by Anonymousreply 129April 27, 2018 8:10 AM

Here's the thing, there's acting, then there's wanting to be a star. Some of these women were lousy actresses who wouldn't have been hired if they weren't good looking. Some did fuck for roles,. Alicia whatever? Some like Mara Rooney and Goop were ok actors and ok looking but nothing special. Due too money, power they got their shot but were too mediocre to stay on top.

by Anonymousreply 130April 27, 2018 8:29 AM

Jessica Lange -- It happened twice really: prior to the release of the ultimately critically panned KING KONG there was a push about how she was the next new star. But the film kinda knocked that on the head. Then, a few years later, armed with press releases about how she took a sabbatical in the Actor's Studio to perfect her critically questioned craft, she returned in FRANCES. There was an artificial press onslaught. Not uncommon today, but it was for the time.

She won the Oscar for it -- although technically for a different unremarkable role as a love interest in a comedy -- and although she actually picked up another one (by default really) she never really had any memorable roles or big films after FRANCES. She's worked steadily, like most of the aforementioned actresses, yes, but never in line with the buzz her team created for that role which is now mostly forgotten unlike Streep's turn in SOPHIE'S CHOICE that same year.

There was never any doubt that Streep would win on the night, of course; but there was a feeling that Lange's career might at least come close to Streep's -- the annual Oscar noms, the titles, the stature -- but that was as close as it ever came between them.

by Anonymousreply 131April 27, 2018 8:51 AM

There's another interesting one: actors who won an Oscar or two and still never quite 'made it'.

Jessica Lange

Hillary Swank

Luise Rainer -- has she been mentioned yet? Am I the first? She's a good example. Two Oscars then zilch.

by Anonymousreply 132April 27, 2018 8:56 AM

Lange does not belong in this discussion. Two Oscars, six nominations and a career resonance on TV and stage.

And people started noticing her before Frances, in 1981 with The Postman Always Rings Twice.

Also, one of the reasons she didn't work after King Kong for a couple of years was that Dino de Laurentiis had her under contract and preventing her from working.

by Anonymousreply 133April 27, 2018 8:58 AM

What a bunch of drunken doublespeak bullshit R131. Lange had plenty of high profile roles and six Oscar noms. She is a more awarded actress than Streep with two Oscars, 5 Golden Globes, 3 Emmys, a Drama Desk and Tony award for a performance in Long Day's Journey Into Night that Streep could never even attempt. Stupid post R131.

by Anonymousreply 134April 27, 2018 9:02 AM

[quote]Lange does not belong in this discussion.

She does, if you read the context of my post objectively. (You won't)

[quote]Two Oscars, six nominations and a career resonance on TV and stage.

Yes, like Hilary Swank and Luise Rainer

[quote] And people started noticing her before Frances, in 1981 with The Postman Always Rings Twice.

She was first 'noticed' in KING KONG, but it wasn't until her PR team starting a push for FRANCES that anyone regarded her as being 'a talent'.

[quote]Also, one of the reasons she didn't work after King Kong for a couple of years was that Dino de Laurentiis had her under contract and preventing her from working.

Yes, though that wasn't how she was framing it circa. 1982/3.

by Anonymousreply 135April 27, 2018 9:03 AM

[quote]She is a more awarded actress than Streep

Like Brenda Dickson. Two Soap Opera Digest Awards for Outstanding Villainess in a Daytime Serial. Streep can't beat that.

by Anonymousreply 136April 27, 2018 9:05 AM

LOL. Where do they get these people?

by Anonymousreply 137April 27, 2018 9:05 AM

I'll add SJP to the list: Post-SATC she was supposed to become a Jennifer Aniston type romcom queen, and then presumably progress to perhaps some more serious roles and maybe even an Oscar nom.

Didn't happen.

People didn't seem to warm to her. Whatever goodwill the general public had towards her when the show started had evaporated by the time it ended as she and Carrie seemed to morph into one vapid, shrill person. She's well-off, which is nice. But no one takes her seriously now and her career was sufficiently barren after the show ended that just four years later the film she kept pushing for arrived on screen.

And not that long ago she was talking about a third one!

by Anonymousreply 138April 27, 2018 9:10 AM

Linda Fiorentino sabotaged her own career by being a nightmare to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 139April 27, 2018 10:57 AM

Kristiana Loken; after Terminator, I thought for sure she would be in everything. Nope, fell by the wayside, sadly.....she's gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 140April 27, 2018 12:11 PM

It happened to quite a few as the old studio system began to fall apart. They took on a few stars, promoted then... then it stopped.

by Anonymousreply 141April 27, 2018 1:46 PM

Karen Allen.

Nancy Allen.

Joan Allen.

by Anonymousreply 142April 28, 2018 3:29 AM

R140, to be fair I don't remember people being too excited about Loken in Terminator. I mean she was totally fine in her role but did anyone really expect her to become a big star after that?

by Anonymousreply 143April 28, 2018 5:33 AM

Lara Flynn Boyle

by Anonymousreply 144April 28, 2018 5:58 AM

I agree that despite all the hoopla and awards, Lange never really took off as a star, especially in the public's eyes. She never really was considered a star, nor a box-office draw. On the other hand, she's a very connected person and her career seems to get bolstered by relationships, like the one she has with Ryan Murphy and Bob Fosse or with Graeme Clifford, the editor of The Postman Always Rings Twice and that later directed Frances. They're all her friends or lovers, as in Fosse's case.

by Anonymousreply 145April 28, 2018 6:08 AM

Jessica Lange not a star?

Puleeeeeeeeze.

As a young gayster growing up in South Carolina, I kept a scrapbook of pics of Lange cause I thought she was so fabulous. And she is.

Anyone who has two Oscars can't be said to have had a lot of buzz, then nothing. One, maybe. But a second Oscar doesn't quality as nothing. So silly.

Lange won a Tony fairly recently and was nominated for everything for FEUD. How many actresses her age are still getting such great roles?

And her resume includes ALL THAT JAZZ, FRANCES, TOOTSIE, MUSIC BOX, CRIMES OF THE HEART. Even in films that didn't work, like A THOUSAND ACRES, she is often superb.

by Anonymousreply 146April 28, 2018 8:39 AM

[quote] Jessica Lange not a star? Puleeeeeeeeze.

As per her own admission: "Box office success has never meant anything. I couldn't get a film made if I paid for it myself. So I'm not 'box office' and never have been, and that's never entered into my kind of mind set. It is the kind of acknowledgment by other actors, really. That's really what is most meaningful."

The status -- both in commercial and artistic appeal -- her campy histrionics have granted her on DL isn't shared by any community of film fans outside of this website.

[quote]As a young gayster growing up in South Carolina, I kept a scrapbook of pics of Lange cause I thought she was so fabulous.

You are aware this is atypical though? I enjoyed Joan Collins when I was younger myself, for what it's worth.

[quote]Anyone who has two Oscars can't be said to have had a lot of buzz, then nothing. One, maybe. But a second Oscar doesn't quality as nothing. So silly.

Except for the aforementioned Swank and Rainer -- both of whom quite neatly fit this category.

[quote]How many actresses her age are still getting such great roles?

Take away the roles she gets through the grace of Ryan Murphy and her recent career is decidedly barren of any sizeable screen roles, let alone "great" ones.

[quote]And her resume includes ALL THAT JAZZ, FRANCES, TOOTSIE, MUSIC BOX, CRIMES OF THE HEART. Even in films that didn't work, like A THOUSAND ACRES, she is often superb.

Proving the case. The first three are the 'buzz', the other two weren't huge at the time and are all but forgotten today. And, of course that's the point: A THOUSAND ACRES was a commercial and critical flop in which she couldn't even muster first billing a few years after her second Oscar win. Whether or not you think she's "superb" in it is irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 147April 28, 2018 10:09 AM

I get buzzed a lot and I get a lot of nothing so I win this goddamn thread.

by Anonymousreply 148April 28, 2018 10:55 AM

The classic one was the immortal Shelley D. A creature created by Robert Altman and the New Yorker with no box office appeal whatsoever. And look what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 149April 28, 2018 3:40 PM

Whilst she is still getting a lot of work I don't think she has become a 'star' and if she disappeared tomorrow nobody would notice: Mia Wasikowska

by Anonymousreply 150April 29, 2018 1:10 PM

Anna Sten

by Anonymousreply 151April 29, 2018 1:48 PM

Anna Sten Is Dead; Film Actress Touted As Another Garbo

Nov 15, 1993 · Anna Sten, a melting-eyed but star-crossed Russian actress whom Samuel Goldwyn hoped to ballyhoo into another Garbo or Dietrich in the 1930's, died on Friday.

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