Gawker publishes several detailed Kevin Spacey stories, also outs Tom Cruise & Will & Jada

I only see spacey in your link.

The TC and Will/Jada stories are embedded in the Spacey e-mails if you scroll down.

All of it rings 110% true.

Talk about burying the lead.

Can't swear to Will/Jada personally, but Peanuts was indeed the place where black celebrities on the down-low could be themselves in semi-public. Whitney/Robyn used to go there, as did Sheila E. Ellen, too, before she was out.

[QUOTE]Talk about burying the lead.

Oh, dear.

three of the most boring stars

R5 Oh, dear yourself, dear.

They are both correct.

What is a "cigar party?" Is that like a sausage party?

R5-

Only journalism snobs know it's lede. Normal people have never heard of the word "lede".

I'm suing Gawker for $100 million!

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Kevin Spicy!

Will they sue gawker like Revolta did?

Bump

Not sure this story really HELPED Spacey?

I don't know why Spacey doesn't just come out already. First of all, it's not like everybody doesn't already know. Second, he's a character actor, not a heartthrob leading man or an action hero so coming out would have no effect on his career or ability to get roles.

Tammy is likely readying his attorneys at this very moment.

R16 Spacey THINKS he's a heartthrob.

I'm in my late 20s and really only know Spacey from House of Cards.

Was he ever hot?

He looks like someone's repressed Dad. I assume Scott Bakula is around the same age and I'd do him, but Spacey?

I ask because the Gawker story makes it sound like he thought he was a total stud.

Spacey's ego has always been larger than his actual place in the fame hierarchy.

Richard E. Grant's memoirs show a pre-fame Spacey working on HENRY AND JUNE. According to Grant, Spacey was whiny about his career up to that point and jealous of bigger stars. After he got that Oscar for AMERICAN BEAUTY, I think he thought of himself as the new Gene Hackman.

I'm not complaining about Spacey not formally coming out, anymore than I would Queen Latifah. There are people who are openly gay, out to friends and family, who don't hide their sexuality, but treat it as normal and feel no need to "announce' it. People need to understand the difference between "private" and "secret."

Now, that doesn't include closet cases who openly deny their sexuality, or who publically work against Gay Rights like closeted politicians, etc. What I abhor is hypocrisy, I don't begrudge people privacy.

I mean, I think it's great Ricky Martin shared his journey with us, and I think people like Matt Bomer, Ellen, Elton, NPH and others do us a world of good by successfully living their lives so publically. But not everyone wants to do that, and I respect it.

[quote]that doesn't include closet cases who openly deny their sexuality

I guess you forget Spacey's ridiculously showy televised declaration of undying love to his beard . . .

[quote]I don't know why Spacey doesn't just come out already. First of all, it's not like everybody doesn't already know. Second, he's a character actor, not a heartthrob leading man or an action hero so coming out would have no effect on his career or ability to get roles.

Because he has openly lied about it for so many years that to come out now would make him look like...a liar. If he had come out years ago and had not previously lied about it, I doubt it would have had any negative effect on his career.

Spacey was never hot. Watch A Time to Kill. He was only in his mid 30s then and still fugly.

Are you saying that his long-term relationship with Dianne Dreyer was a fake?

R23 Wentworth Miller also lied about his sexuality saying that he was just waiting for the right girl to come along. However, he felt so bad about what was happening to gays in Russia, that he apologized and came out.

Why can't Kevin Spacey do the same?

[quote]Why can't Kevin Spacey do the same?

Because he's old, and a lot of old gay men are pathetic closet cases.

I do not find it necessary, PR-wise, for him to come out unless he wants to go public w/ a long term relationship (HA!) or have a baby...

It seems like his only goal is to screw gay-lings willy nilly, and frankly it is better for him if he doesn't talk publicly about that.

Kevin Spacey is disgusting. I have actually seen him in action, and NO I did not have sex with his nasty ass. He is a filthy pig. He loves the twinkie boys.

R28 might be on to something. Based on the Gawker comments Spacey is a quite public predator. If he came out the paps would be publishing a lot more pictures of him in action and that would probably turn more people off then him being gay. Tabs are reluctant too really out anyone but if he came out so would all of the stories about him hitting on twins and straight guys. He has more to hide then just being gay.

did some digging and the T.C. "rumor" has a number of inaccuracies, not to mention non believable and human behavior/common sense/rational issues.

R29, but do the twinkie boys love him back?

R31 aren't you late for a clambake?

R33 as a "clambake" am i allowed to post what "inaccuracies" i found? just saying, let me know.

Spacey eats shit. I met him. I hate him.

Some guys love being on the DL - and I don't mean datalounge. Coming Out publicly kinda puts a damper on that.

[quote]“The Usual Suspects” almost never got made because Bryan Singer caught Kevin Spacey getting a hand job in his trailer from Bryan’s boyfriend and Bryan went ballistic. Walked off the set after a tantrum and they had to shut production down until they could calm him down.

Too bad that nobody got a video of his hissy-fit.

R29, no one here believes you have seen Kevin Spacey in action. No one.

Tell us more R29. Where did you see him in action?

"The new Gene Hackman"?

He's the new Estelle Parsons!

I have just read every single fucking post on there (so you don't have to). Nothing. Zilch. Rien. Niente. Except for some allegedly 3rd hand gossip about Spacey. That's it folks.

One thing I'll never understand: if these people are fucking as many people as gossip boards like to claim, how come nobody ever comes forward (on an anonymous board) with some info? Never. Do celebs kill people after they fuck 'em?

Come on. The people they allegedly like to fuck like nothing more than to brag about their encounters (or even make them up). How come there's nothing?

Maybe the people are keeping their mouths shut because they want further entrée. If I were famous and didn't exactly trust someone, I'd tell them some fake, outrageous shit and then wait to see if I read it somewhere later.

[quote]how come nobody ever comes forward (on an anonymous board) with some info? Never.

Did you just arrive here for the first time about an hour ago? What person in their right mind would ever mention they even know a celeb at DL? We've had about eight years of "This . did . not . happen" and you really expect someone to post some real gossip? Get real, Rose.

I'm not talking about DL, I'm talking about Gawker. You post anonymously. Hell, they based their whole article on emails they received from people who could have been making that stuff up 100%. They weren't even first-hand stories.

"A guy I met said that..."

If these people are fucking entire populations as Gawker claims, sorry there are going to be loose lips.

Look at DiCaprio: already two of his ex "girlfriends" have leaked about their lack of a sex life. And they had to have signed non-disclosure agreements.

I'm thinking that celebs - they're just like us - can't get a date..

r41=frau blucher

"The people they allegedly like to fuck like nothing more than to brag about their encounters (or even make them up"

Not true. For one thing many people don't believe in outing...

I've said this before but the only pussy that Dicaprio's pussy posse sees is man-pussy.

"T.C. "rumor" has a number of inaccuracies"

So what are they?

R46 don't believe in outting? Give me a break. This whole website is devoted to claiming every (hot) man on the planet is gay.

"This whole website is devoted to claiming every (hot) man on the planet is gay."

as opposed to you, frau b.

I always had the impression that Kevin Spacey is a "momma's boy". If his mother is still alive, perhaps he is afraid of disappointing her and that is the reason he won't come out.

I think the same about Rocco Dispirito.

I really don't understand the obsession with trying to out Kevin Spacey as gay, or out Will Smith & Jada Pinkett as bisexual swingers. Who really gives a flying fuck? Even if any of this is true, why is it important in the first place?

The a capella singer is Hugh Eastwood. The Yale Alley Cats, I think. It was in Yale's tabloid, Rumpus, in like 2001 or so.

I read the article. Take it with a grain of salt, it is the internet after all. But you know what they say, if there is smoke...

I think maybe enough people are fed up with Spacey being a predator to finally do something about it.

Spacey is a real creep, he sounds worse than Travolta. Why doesn't someone accuse this asshole of sexual assault? I have a feeling he will pull a Cosby, all these guys will accuse him of sexual assault 30 years too late.

Some male celebs have zero gay rumors about them, but with others it doesn't stop, Jackman, Kanye, Spacey, TC, Smith - you got to ask why. None of the mentioned would have the career they have if they were openly gay.

[quote]T.C. "rumor" has a number of inaccuracies

Let's play Shirleylock Holmes, shall we? Internet research is fun!

A quick trip to IMDB shows the Mission Impossible film his 'old friend' Mr Calciano worked on (and he must be so grateful to have his name attached to such a tale – although, according to IMDB, he has gone on to make 'Steam Room Stories') wasn't the I.M. sequel, but the 1996 original.

The location list for THAT film doesn't list a castle, but it does list a palace: "Lichtenstein Palace, Kampa Island, Prague." Honestly: how many palaces did the Fürsts von und zu Liechtenstein need? Isn't having a whole country enough? Anyway, this not-exactly-bijou pile is now owned by the government, and the restoration includes guest apartments for VIPs.

The main hall with a fireplace? Mr Google can't come up with an image.

But cigar smoking? I'm shocked. SHOCKED at this suggestion. Tammy? OUR Tammy?! There must have been some misunderstanding.

R48 and R58.. this is what i personally found as far as "inaccuracies" of the T.C. rumor

1) the man mentioned a james calciano was NEVER the head of c/w productions, at best a associate producer on MI:2 (does the use of a actual person in a rumor make it more legit? i don't know)

2) MI: 2 never filmed in budapest at all. it was mi:4 that had scenes SET in budapest but no filming WAS in budapest, it was prague.thus the location of this alleged rumor is wrong, hence the rented "castle" wrong too...

are these 2 above informative news just simple "mistakes" of a actual true event or a hodgepodge of made up information created for a rumor?

and just from a personal point of view there is also i guess the whole "believability" of the information in the rumor?

what i mean is, besides the fact that working on a film especially when your in almost every scene is 12 to 16 hour days almost everyday which leaves little time for "fun"..

but i'm going to actually think and analyze this "rumor".

so this calciano guy just walked into this rented "castle" (if a castle was indeed rented for a short stay during filming) and walked into this scene? uh, wouldn't he or anyone have to knock on the door of a place? whether it was a hotel room or a home or even a rented "castle"? no matter what the working or personal relationship of said parties doesn't everyone knock or ring the bell or something before they walk right into someone else's place? what was the front door unlocked and he just helped himself to walk in?

if someone let him in, who then? and why would this person let him in, if the person knew what was going on in what seemingly is wrote in the next room in plain sight? really? wouldn't all involved in the rumor be more private in the "castle"? or are we to believe if he was let in by someone, this someone did not know was going on and said something like "oh, he's in the first door to the left" and did not know themselves what was going on in that room? or thought that the various alleged number of men in the rumor and t.c. were just hanging out (no pun intended) in that room? really?

i just think it is way too farfetched when you think about it analytically.

also does anyone think T.C. would hire someone, anyone as the head of his company who seemingly would spread "what he saw" to ANYONE as easily as he was describing what he had for breakfast? i don't think so. i'm just saying.....

Why does anyone care who these Hollyweird freaks fuck? I don't give them a thought, much less wonder who they are sharing their beds with.

R52, what are you doing on a gossip board?

On Spacey - check out his family to find out why he cannot come out of the closet. His father was a closet Nazi - his mother too.

On these hollywood 'I walked in on' stories. More often then not they are along the lines of the "my cousin/sister/aunt was there the night they brought in Richard Gere with a gerbil up his ass.."

I doubt as careful as cruise is he would have a gaggle of naked men around him in a situation where anyone could just walk in. Hell rumor has it he makes escorts hire NDA's...(look at the one he sued who talked)...

Now...Singer walking in on his bf giving space a handy? Well that I can believe. Did anyone watch American Horror Story = Freakshow? Dennis O' Hare's character was based on Kevin Spacey..trollish guy with monster cock.

i forget but speaking of the non disclosure agreements, wasn't it recently posted that

1) there is no such thing really or that 2) such signed agreements if they do exist and are used by celebrities would not and could not work or be used that it would cover anything and everything in a celebs life involving other people/parties?

(i.e. a so called non disclosure agreement couldn't be used by a celeb to have sex with someone and have that someone legally not able to say otherwise be sued?)

i don't know. i would think that NO such contract would or could exist, because i mean wouldn't that basically be saying (especially if the person you are having sex with is paid, i.e. a escort) that you both are participating in prostitution which is of course illegal and over rules any contract the parties would sign? anyone with legal experience know?

Oh please...a gossip with a backbone will go ahead and gossip...they aren't bothered by all the fan girls who are pulling their hair out, screaming, "he's not gay!"

Clinton lied and got away with it. Therefore it set the standard. Anyone after Clinton took it as perfectly OK.

Ummm...Note to R65, he didn't get away with it. He was impeached.

R61, I wonder about that as well, I mean, this is a GOSSIP board after all. I just don't get people who show up here and demand proof or flat out say stop gossiping. Did they get lost on their way to some other website?

It's not a gossip board. It's a lying board.

The problem isn't that it's a gossip board, the problem is insiders are apparently either not posting on here or not revealing anything interesting.

The Golden Age of the DL is evidently over. Blue Agave is sorely missed.

How do you pronounce the word, "Agave", and what is its definition and heritage?

R63 I have been asked to sign a non disclosure before testing a celeb for VD. Of course it is covered by HIPPA, but they still required it. I signed.

Of course they exist for sex.

R70- ah-gah-veh is what they use to make tequila. Blue Agave was a legendary poster who knew a lot of gossip.

Blue Agave was a legendary poster who knew a lot of gossip AND it was back in an era when someone who knew gossip didn't have to pay $18 to start a thread about it. It's not the cost; those insiders don't want a link to a credit card.

R73, DataLounge takes stamps, ya know.

What a surprise, Kevin Spacey is gay! (rolling eyes)

Paying for the DL has scared off all insiders. Now it seems like only freepers and the Matt Damon troll start threads.

It's easier to get insider stuff from crew members leaking on reddit now.

The Reddit format is the worst on Earth right now.

[quote]Paying for the DL has scared off all insiders.

It's not the payment, it's the link that results if they provide their credit card to make the payment. They're not going to drive to Target to buy a pre-paid card when they can just post breaking gossip info where no link back to them is required.

Clams are here I see.

R65, people have always lied. You're just a repuke blaming Clinton for things that never happened

[quote]that doesn't include closet cases who openly deny their sexuality

Spacey and Queen Latifah openly denied being gay and constantly lie about it, R21. Latifah even went as far as saying that the lesbian rumors have made it difficult for her to find a man. it's one thing living in a glass closet and it's a totally different thing publicly lying.

Fuck R65 and then F&F the shit out of the cunt until she gets flushed.

Playing the "Clintons are the same of closeted movie stars" is so transparent it makes me wish I knew the location of this cunt. She needs the shade delivered personally - and with emphasis.

$cientologist friend, you gettin paid for this, hun?

[quote]“Well, you don’t have to be a professional hang glider to try it once.”

And a new DL meme is born.

[quote]Fuck R65 and then F&F the shit out of the cunt until she gets flushed.

As much as I would like to see R65 and her ilk gone from here, DL does not ban people for their politics. OTOH, if you misuse F&F over and over, that can get you banned R82. We're stuck with R65 and can't do a thing about it.

Why the fuck do freepers post on here? They've done it since Clinton was President. Are they closet cases who come here to spam and stay for the sex gossip?

It's derailing us from talking about what a creep Spacey is, but then that's old news here.

Compression and concision are clearly something R59 struggles with. Too much Skunk, darlin. Yes, we established that the retailer of the second hand story about Tammy had, if it happened at all, (a) the film wrong (b) the city wrong (c) and the location wrong. That's Chinese Whispers for you.

I too doubt it could have happened in any room where filming had taken place: there's always grips retrieving stuff at all hours. But there are apartments at that palace.

But given Tam's backstory has more smoke than a California forest fire, is dotting the Ts really necessary?

R88: true, what you said, i just think that "gossip or rumor" would have more legs if the facts presented as facts were indeed accurate. when their not, it is indeed not only gossip and rumor but bad and stupid gossip and rumor.

i for one i have to admit want my gossip and rumor to be true, found out to be true whether sooner or later, and not remain gossip and rumor.

in that regard, i wonder among everyone here, what is everyone's opinion on gay rumors on a particular celebrity when there is so many of them?

are you inclined to believe them as true based solely on the number of stories? the more there are the more these rumors have to be true?

or are you inclined to believe when there are SO many stories, they can't be true, because it defies logic and reason? (i.e. 70,80,90 stories about 1 celebrity that if they were ALL true, said celebrity would have to be the most horny, most daring risk taking, stupid chances taking person much less famous person ever!)

or if there are so many stories about the same celebrity, most 95% are probably made up and not true, but there has to be a few that are true among the many stories?

just curious as to what everyone's thought process on how and why they believe gossip,rumor, stories in regards to a celebrity's alleged closeted (or not) private life.

So many rumors later turn out to be true.That's why.

R8, I thought "cigar party" was slang for a scat party.

Smoking pole,I believe.

Remember what happened to the trannie Eddie Murphy picked up. If I had some real info on a celeb I would never disclose it on a message board, I would be too afraid somebody could trace that info back to me. TC is backed by CoS, they can make anybody disappear.

R93 said tranny!! R93 SAID TRANNY!!!

Did any of the Blue Agave threads get saved?

r95, unfortunately they didn't

Scientology attracts psychos and people with borderline personality disorder. So if you mess with it, you're dealing with that type of person.

Scientology in particular aims to recruit among disgruntled psychiatric patients (and that's all of them), RICH disgruntled psychiatric patients, they have no use for poor crazy people. But rich crazy people are ripe for the picking.

I'm surprised no one has sued over this yet

I can confirm the spa story. An old co worker used to work at Burke Williams in Santa Monica and said Spacey was always trying to pick him up.

I know some of his DC conquests. One is almost 30, which I thought is out of his age range!!!

r101, are you talking about Spacey?

More stories from Gawker!

Kevin is so predatory, he has to be assigned female or older male PAs on film sets. And he does not take "I'm straight" for an answer!

Most of those stories are very similar to stuff posted about KS here

Is this even news? Nobody on Earth thinks he's straight.

[quote]Nobody on Earth thinks he's straight.

His mother does. But then again, she also thinks the tooth fairy will mistake her denture for baby teeth. Inconclusively so far, I'm afraid.

R65 - Calm down. The Clinton machine is one of the dirtiest ever built. If you're still one of the fans who think they are brilliant compassionate people, you're simply delusional. They're much MUCH worse than closeted Hollywood celebrities - I mean, seriously? Get real...

My 2 cents:

I used to do makeup for strippers- one of them told me that La Spacey had approached her (saw her with her BF) and proposed a scenario where he was blowing her BF off, while the BF was eating her out. She declined the offer- thought he was creepy.

I had a friend who worked in Paramount Legal, and before TC fired Pat (I think that's her name), they had a legion of lawyers working non-stop for damage control.

I don't know about W & J's sexuality, but they treat their crew insanely well (thanks!).

Also: a certain bald mulatto action star is very very gay (but you knew that already).

Thanks for the dirt, r108!

I am watching House of Cards (don't spoil me because I am only on season 3) and I can't get over how OLD Spacey looks. That along with the bad rug.

Kevin Spacey, gay? Well, I never.

Speaking of House Of Cards, Sean Penn's ex really knows how to play a bitch.

I think Spacey would come out already if he had a nice long term partnership with someone appropriate. He doesn't come out because he doesn't want the public to know he's after 19 yo boys.

I'd rather see they expose TC's and Smith's Xenu links and their shady dealings. Being gay is not a crime.

pace is not gay, sorry to disappoint. It's an urban legend.

*Spacey

Kevin Spacey and Richard Cox (CRUISING, KING OF THE MOUNTAIN, LOOKING FOR RICHARD...) played together in the AL PACINO documentary "Looking for Richard". Are they friends ? Someone said in the thread of Cruising that Richard Cox is gay in real life, does anyone know stories about him and maybe about him and Kevin Spacey ?

Why do people still care about stuff like this? "So and so celebrity is GAY!". Isn't this doing more harm than good by sensationalizing someone's sexual orientation? It's treating it like it's somehow scandalous and wrong. Someone's gay or bi, big deal.

Gawker. That's so 2015.

Even if that's 2015 it's true or not true?!!!!!

(R119 )Would it mean the reply of 2015 is not available ? is it a "fake news" ?......

R118 : If you don't like that kind of "questions", why do you surf the DATALOUNGE ?

Peanuts was a bar in the early 80’s. I used to go there. We would get harassed by the police. I thought it was long gone before the 2000’s.

*eye roll* who doesn't know (but cares) that Kevin Spacer is gay?

[quote] I'm in my late 20s and really only know Spacey from House of Cards.

[quote] Was he ever hot?

[quote] He looks like someone's repressed Dad. I assume Scott Bakula is around the same age and I'd do him, but Spacey?

No. He looked the same 20 years ago. He was never hot. Scott Bakula continues to be hot.

I don't see why Kevin spacey bothers. It's not like he's an action or romantic hero type who's career image might take a hit.

(R126) Sorry, but KEVIN SPACEY is the sexiest and charismatic actor all the cinema... And I deeply hate a certain "américain" state of mind which consists in "burning" people, in a public place, ignoring if they are guilty or not!!!!!! and by the way, if the rape records are true (which I don't believe at all), you should blame him for having bad taste (when I've seen A. RAPP...Oh my god he's so ugly!!)...