The Grateful Dead

yes, christ yes. You don't know any fans? They're pathological in their devotion. The younger types have moved on to "jam bands" (terrible ones) but Deadheads are proudly stuck back in time. Surprisingly many are the worst kind of racists and republicans which makes sense. For the longest time I didn't know anything about them and thought by their name it was rock music. It's basically just corn fed country bullshit.

And here's a tip. NEVER tell a Dead fan that you don't like the Dead b/c they will bombard with 20 recordings of their shitty songs telling you just have to hear this version from RFK Stadium, 1978. And they will play some noodling bullshit that lasts 45 minutes.

They're dead and we're grateful.

I like Dead Heads -- they are happy in their love.

I'm sorry you don't like The Dead, R1. You really should listen to this and I promise you it'll change your mind!

What r1 said x10

No, they're not still around, not since Jerry Garcia died in um 1995? The remaining members still play together but they're not "the Grateful Dead" anymore. But back when they were the Grateful Dead, they were the greatest American band ever.

It is really sad when one reads that various groups from the 60's are still performing. I mean 70+ year old Mick Jagger prancing around on stage, that ugly face and off stage the medical crew with cot, oxygen, and one day a casket.

The one crazy old coot comeback I want to see is Axl Rose, that bitch is entertaining.

Egh. They all became fans of Phish and Widespread Panic. Possibly the lamest bands after the Grateful Dead. Ann Coulter is a deadhead.

Always a laughably elitist scene, those parking lots

Every deadhead I knew were white, male, and lower upper or upper middle class.

Sugar Magnolia, blossoms blooming Heads all empty and I don't care

I wonder if the stoned poncho-wearing women still twirl around and around.

Barf. Band sucked, fans were worse. The parking lot of a Dead show, however - drug supermarket.

Bob Weir has a very expensive lifestyle. He probably needs money – again.

They all grew expensive lifestyles after riding Jerry's brilliance to death. One man gathers what another man spills.

[quote]Bob Weir has a very expensive lifestyle. He probably needs money – again.

I thought he came from money?

And yet you bitches will shell out hundreds of dollars to go see Madonna or Gaga or whoever else you like this week and will hate their guts next week. Cher did HOW MANY tours? Exactly.

There's just no mellower music when you're stoned than the Dead.

Al Franken was a deadhead and his partner Tom Davis hung out with Jerry. Apparently he was a total crackhead in the years leading up to his death.

Oh god, R4. I'm a Deadhead, and I HATE Shakedown Street.

[quote]Apparently he was a total crackhead in the years leading up to his death.

Which one, R20--Tom, or Jerry?

Putting a waa waa pedal on country music doesn't make it cool.

Thought he was a smackhead, that's what I remember hearing when he died.

R15 given how he still drinks and uses drugs as do the rest of the band members I'm surprised they're all still alive.

My favorite is how every one of these people, who 10 years ago, would've openly said John Mayer is a cunting douchebag have embraced him as their new Jerry. Or at least their new Pigpen. I fucking hate deadheads and their stupid jam band slavery. The music just sucks.

I used to sell beer at Grateful Dead shows and made a ton of cash.

The music and the "style" of the fans are equally hideous.

Phish fans are even more annoying.

Did you go to the shows R27, or just go into the lot to sell beer and/or buy drugs?

That's true R26, Dead co. plays the songs way too slow and it's a total cash grab.

Jerry was a severe coke addict and he died of related heart failure. The misconception is that the band was about pot smoking and chilling. Most dead heads I ever ran into were also serious coke heads or worse. Many are either former 60s hippies with now high profile legal or corporate careers ( Marin County is full of them) or brain fried over privileged white allegedly straight males who are now in their 50s and ran out of Daddy's money, meaning they are essentially bums. Having a "young hippy chicks" to accompany them on their groupie adventures is considered the height of deadheadism. The corporate frauds support them and finance their drug habits and the ex trustafarians live off of the hippie chicks glass blowing "creations" often found on Etsy.

You described the dead/jamband scene perfectly R32.

Also the dead were majorly into coke, and heroin but a lot of musicians from the 60s and 70s were. I am honestly surprised that Mickey, Bobby, Billy, and Phil are still alive with all the decades worth of hard drugs that they have used and probably still use.

Jerry was smoking crack and injecting heroin before he died. And yes, they all seem to have an etsy store. I think the very most annoying jam band is Widespread Panic. The fans are redneck alcoholic cokeheads with money. It's basically just some well to do fabricators, welders, contractors and landscaping moguls who are functional addicts and their sleazy, loud getting on in years trophy wives. They aren't even close to actual hippies and most probably voted for Trump, but since they snort a bunch of coke before they listen to this cornporn music, they think they're enlightened. Or some bullshit.

R33 and r34 I really want to expose some of these assholes. I have some major dish. All the jam band freaks I have known are homophobic pricks and twats.I grew up in an upper middle class town outside of NYC and these rich little deadhead shits we're everywhere. I was a model and publicly out. I fucked a few in the 80s (they would actually crawl into my bed naked with a joint purportedly wanting to listen to my music collection) and to say, they liked it is an understatement. But of course, they would refer to me as a faggot to their friends and run back to the safety of the pseudo hippy fraus who they could only screw when the chicks were full of acid and x. As far as exposing these idiots, I am talking about the older former hippies who are now well known in their corporate fields. As I am nervous about posting a pic, have you seen the original Woodstock documentary? Featured prominently is a curly dark haired Jewish Frau whirling, twirling, and shaking in a drug addled frenzy. I have damaging dish on her. TBC.

R35 what sort of information do you have about her? Did she get gangbanged at Woodstock while on all sort of drugs or something? Or pimped out by her boyfriend? Yes it's fucked up but that has happened.

No r36....I am talking about her current and long time...errr.. career. And her dangerous and deadly connections. Damaging shit.

R37 OK tread carefully then if she somehow has dangerous and deadly connections? Did you grow up with this woman?

Yes you described WSP fans perfectly R34. John Bell the singer/guitarist for WSP can't sing or play at all yet for some reason people flock to see him and go to as many shows as they can. I saw them once when they were opening up for another band I like who are much more talented, and WSP was not that good. Jimmy Herring the other guitarist in WSP is wasting his talents as he should be playing nothing but jazz/fusion instead, but I guess he makes a moderate sum of money from being with WSP?

I always hated the Grateful Dead. Musically, they were a mediocrity. But for their fans, it was never about the music. It was always about drugs.

I heard it was the Grateful Dean's idea to have Hell's Angels police the crowd at Altamont. They were supposed to perform there but when informed on how the Hell's Angels were rampaging they backed out. The Grateful Dead were also known for dosing people without their knowledge. At a Dead show one of Janis Joplin's band (this was after she left Big Brother and the Holding Company) drank some dosed wine and ended up raving in a hospital bed. At a birthday celebration for one of Joplin's band members a member of the Grateful Dead's entourage saw to it that a little special something was put in the birthday cake. Joplin warned him about it before he had a chance to sample any. The Grateful Dead were always scum.

That's very true R40 that the dead and their road crew, etc. would dose people with acid without their consent. They also did this to other band members, Bob Weir claims that he stopped taking LSD with any regularity in 1967 or 1968 but all during the 1970s and 1980s someone from the road crew or other band members thought it was funny to give him acid without him knowing it.

The Allman brothers band stopped playing concerts with the dead since the dead dosed their drummer Butch Trucks on New Year's eve at a show they both were playing at, and members of the Allmans sound crew also got dosed at another show in Washington DC.

The Dead were just a bunch of out-of-tune hippies. Jerry worked for the FBI.

I'll admit that American Beauty and Workingman's Dead have some good tunes, but every live video I've seen of theirs is interminable hogwash. Jerry looks 70 years old in that clip above, and it's only from 1978.

R38 agree: enough said. I did not grow up with her. I met her in my 30s through her deadhead trophy wife friend's gay son. That poor man. He was a very sad soul.

So let's hear some dirt about Ms. Jewfro with the sloppy Woodstock titties.

So what exactly do you know about this woman R37?

This is the superior Grateful Dead Thread

Indeed R47.

The Grateful Dead as it was is gone , they are now called The Dead and Company. As for the Deadheads they are a huge community. I have someone close to me who still goes to shows around the country occasionally. I really am not crazy about the music, it is not my thing. Maybe I have not given it a fair chance. I guess I find all that tie dye off putting. I agreed to go to a Dead and Company show here in NY in June I am only kind of looking forward to it.

True R49, the dead co. shows are not bad but they are just like every other dead band that's been around since Garcia died. I don't go to dead co. shows since tickets are way too expensive, and they play the songs way too slow.

I recently saw the webcast of Bob and Phil playing together and that was 1,000X better than anything dead co. has done.

The absolute nadir of all the hippie shit.

Whatever. I'm sure all of you complaining about the surviving band members are right about a lot of things. I was never a full-on Deadhead, and was way more into new wave in high school, but I got into music from the 60s and 70s later, and am glad I had the chance to see the full group twice in the years before Jerry died, including one incredibly good show in Buffalo on the 4th of July 1989 when I was in college.

I have heard that they always took very good care of people who worked for them, including very good benefits and even pensions-- is this not true?

American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are terrific albums, even though the Dead are known not for recordings compared to appearing live.

R52 I like the band and their original music, and some of the post-Garcia bands were good like the other ones, the dead, ratdog, and Phil Lesh and friends.

What you wrote about how they took very good care of all the people who worked for them is true. Unfortunately when Jerry wanted to take a break/hiatus to rest and get his health back in order and get off drugs, the rest of the band, road crew, etc. said no because of the amount of money the band and everyone else was making via touring.

For R52.

Also R52, here's an audience recording if you want to download it.

So thank you, r 54 and r55 for those links. Very friendly of you -- which is another thing about Deadheads. When I was younger it was trading tapes.

I had a video of 10,000 Maniacs opening that show (they were great) and a bit of the Dead's first set but never the whole show.

All of the Dead and Co songs are played at a glacial speed. Sucks!