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What are some glamorous retro dishes?

I'm having a dinner party and would like to feature some. I'm thinking of high glamor cuisine from the 19th/20th centuries that you don't find too frequently anymore. A couple I've thought of so far: shrimp louie and lobster thermidor.

Glam cocktail suggestions also welcome.

by Anonymousreply 111January 15, 2019 5:59 AM

Chateaubriand

Steak Diane

Veal Cordon Bleu

by Anonymousreply 1November 24, 2014 2:59 AM

Veal Prince Orloff

by Anonymousreply 2November 24, 2014 3:18 AM

Baked Alaska for dessert

by Anonymousreply 3November 24, 2014 3:20 AM

Veal Oscar

by Anonymousreply 4November 24, 2014 3:25 AM

Clams casino

by Anonymousreply 5November 24, 2014 3:25 AM

This.

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by Anonymousreply 6November 24, 2014 3:26 AM

Oysters Rockefeller

Rack of Lamb

Baked Alaska for dessert!

by Anonymousreply 7November 24, 2014 3:27 AM

Pink lady cocktails....or martinis and turkey tetrazini

by Anonymousreply 8November 24, 2014 3:27 AM

Raw or baked Oysters

Roast Mutton, Pork or Turkey,

Stewed Rabbits

Plum Pudding

Mince Pies

Nesselrode

by Anonymousreply 9November 24, 2014 3:32 AM

Beef Wellington. Expensive, but delicious, and not incredibly difficult to make.

And if you want to be retro-piss-elegant, make something in aspic for an appetizer!

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by Anonymousreply 10November 24, 2014 3:33 AM

R6 That looks like some recipe that appeared on Weight Watchers recipe cards collection that my mother had in the '70's.

by Anonymousreply 11November 24, 2014 3:33 AM

old fashion or Manhattan

by Anonymousreply 12November 24, 2014 3:33 AM

Iceberg lettuce wedge and bleu cheese rdessing

by Anonymousreply 13November 24, 2014 3:34 AM

Lobster Newburg.

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by Anonymousreply 14November 24, 2014 3:35 AM

Chicken Kiev.

by Anonymousreply 15November 24, 2014 3:37 AM

Here we go!

Okay, there's nothing more insanely glamorous than "chaud-froid" aspic sauce over meat. It's a sort of opaque aspic which is poured over meat or fish to form a solid coating, which is then decorated like a plastic children's toy. The Salmon Chaud-Froid in the picture is fairly simple, I'll try to find some of the more insane versions that used to exist.

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by Anonymousreply 16November 24, 2014 3:39 AM

I think it's called Ramaki - chicken liver with a water chestnut on top wrapped in bacon.

I remember my mother making these for dinner parties.

by Anonymousreply 17November 24, 2014 3:40 AM

soup beans, cornbread weiners and kraut and fried taters and some mustard greens yumm yumm

by Anonymousreply 18November 24, 2014 3:41 AM

In the 1950s, serving meat coated in chaud-froid on a bed of diced aspic was considered to be the height of piss-elegance.

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by Anonymousreply 19November 24, 2014 3:42 AM

Coq au vin

by Anonymousreply 20November 24, 2014 3:44 AM

Dinner Party Troll, you've done this thread so many times over the years. Why does listing old fashioned dishes obsess you so?

by Anonymousreply 21November 24, 2014 3:45 AM

There's nothing like an aspic

by Anonymousreply 22November 24, 2014 3:46 AM

Foie gras

by Anonymousreply 23November 24, 2014 3:47 AM

And why are you such a grumpy nitwit r21?

Change your tampon this week. You'll feel so refreshed.

by Anonymousreply 24November 24, 2014 3:50 AM

And DL favorite Pancakes Barbara for dessert.

by Anonymousreply 25November 24, 2014 3:51 AM

Harlequin Chicken owns this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 26November 24, 2014 3:52 AM

If it doesn't gel, it isn't aspic..

by Anonymousreply 27November 24, 2014 4:04 AM

Peach Melba for dessert.

by Anonymousreply 28November 24, 2014 4:08 AM

Stuffed rack of lamb, with tiny party hats on!

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by Anonymousreply 29November 24, 2014 4:10 AM

R2 here, forgot to sign my post.

by Anonymousreply 30November 24, 2014 4:11 AM

Daube glace and shrimp Samantha.

by Anonymousreply 31November 24, 2014 4:11 AM

Turkey tetrazzini. I love it.

Or beef stroganoff .

by Anonymousreply 32November 24, 2014 4:12 AM

Pretty much any dish that you would see Jack Tripper cook on Three's Company. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 33November 24, 2014 4:12 AM

Coquilles Saint Jacques - basically large scallops broiled in their shell with a creamy sauce over them.

by Anonymousreply 34November 24, 2014 4:15 AM

How about Raymond St. Jacques?

by Anonymousreply 35November 24, 2014 4:19 AM

Crow

by Anonymousreply 36November 24, 2014 5:36 AM

R10 is on to something. Beef Wellington is delicious. My mother made it with a red wine and mushroom gravy.

by Anonymousreply 37November 24, 2014 5:49 AM

Omg the chaud froid is...wow

by Anonymousreply 38November 24, 2014 5:56 AM

R37 agree. It also reminds me of that great scene from Love and Death when Napoleon is tasting his dish "I said, NO RAISINS." And then something like: I'm sure you had no problem making a beef Wellington!

I also love the mini ones they serve at "good old fashioned cocktail parties."

by Anonymousreply 39November 24, 2014 5:57 AM

Pancakes Barbara!

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by Anonymousreply 40November 24, 2014 6:01 AM

I looked up a recipe for chaud-froid sauce, and it's basically a béchamel sauce with gelatin in it. Putting it on chicken breasts or salmon fillets might be fairly simple, but as you have to serve the results cold it might not be seasonally appropriate (outside of Australia). Maybe it could be a fish appetizer?

Still, I'd love it if the stuff had a revival.

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by Anonymousreply 41November 24, 2014 6:07 AM

R27, all these years (well, 25 -- I first saw Psycho in the late 80s as a young boy), I never knew he was saying that. Why, I only learned what 'aspic' is now, reading this thread. (I also used to think Marion was saying "These extended lunch hours give my boss sexist asset" when I was a wee lad.)

R18, you sound hot. Where do you live?

by Anonymousreply 42November 24, 2014 6:21 AM

And it's actually a forgiving dish. My mom used the old Joy of Cooking recipe.

by Anonymousreply 43November 24, 2014 6:30 AM

Oops, I am referring above to beef Wellington and r39.

R37

by Anonymousreply 44November 24, 2014 6:31 AM

Bananas Foster

Cherries Jubilee

by Anonymousreply 45November 24, 2014 6:39 AM

pressed duck, as served at La Tour d'Argent in Paris

gâteau St. Honoré

by Anonymousreply 46November 24, 2014 6:52 AM

You can also find about 80 percent of these dishes at Le Perigord, in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 47November 24, 2014 6:55 AM

Pancakes Barbara

by Anonymousreply 48November 24, 2014 6:56 AM

As you probably know, mince meats pies were once made from meat, often game such as dear.

My aunt once actually did that, presenting her treasured minced meat pies made with venison. No one would eat it though.

by Anonymousreply 49November 24, 2014 10:13 AM

R42, I was horrified that, in the dreadful 'remake' with Vince Vaughn, the line was changed to, "If it doesn't gel, it isn't Jell-o.."

Horrified.

by Anonymousreply 50November 24, 2014 12:37 PM

>>often game such as dear.

Oh..My.

by Anonymousreply 51November 24, 2014 12:38 PM

Lobster a la Riseholme, but of course.

by Anonymousreply 52November 24, 2014 12:46 PM

R35 has excellent taste. I used to jack off to Raymond St. Jacques in one of those "Sex in the Cinema" articles in Playboy.

by Anonymousreply 53November 24, 2014 7:20 PM

Molto delicioso R52

by Anonymousreply 54November 24, 2014 7:24 PM

R49, I guess I'm the only one left who still likes mincemeat pie. Every year I buy one for myself, and warm up a slice when I want dessert, because nobody else serves it. I'd even eat the kind with meat in it, just to say I did!

And yes, mincemeat pie is delicious. Think of it as a slightly tart fruit compote, not something you associate with your dreaded momma.

by Anonymousreply 55November 24, 2014 7:48 PM

R29 those party hats are known as lamb pants. Something my brother and I had to make for many of my mom's dinner parties

by Anonymousreply 56November 24, 2014 7:55 PM

[quote]What are some glamorous retro dishes?

Brigitte Bardot

Edy Williams

Joey Heatherton

by Anonymousreply 57November 24, 2014 7:56 PM

Roast ortolan would really make a statement, if you seek to impress.

Don't forget to provide white napkins for your guests to hide their heads from God.

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by Anonymousreply 58November 24, 2014 8:03 PM

R58, ortolans are a Eurasian/African bird, and not available in the US, unless you have them flown in at great expense. I don't think any culinary tiny songbirds are available in the US.

Tell me, cooks, how does one make a perfect beef wellington when you can't see the beef under the pastry? Meat thermometer?

by Anonymousreply 59November 24, 2014 8:17 PM

Pheasant under glass

Trout amandine

Squab

by Anonymousreply 60November 24, 2014 8:34 PM

There is nothing more memorably mid-20th-century than "Polynesian food"! Put pineapple and sweet-and-sour sauce on rice and hot dogs, and serve with so many Mai-Tais that nobody cares what they're eating!

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by Anonymousreply 61November 24, 2014 9:04 PM

r54 Still painting those bold, female nudes, dear one?

by Anonymousreply 62November 24, 2014 10:42 PM

R6 - are those tampons on top?

by Anonymousreply 63November 24, 2014 10:49 PM

The original Pancakes Barbara was more like a crepe or clafoutis made with a blackberry sauce.

by Anonymousreply 64November 24, 2014 11:05 PM

Shrimp de Jonghe!

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by Anonymousreply 65November 24, 2014 11:06 PM

Lots of retro gems here...

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by Anonymousreply 66November 24, 2014 11:10 PM

Dubonnet with a slice of lemon; her majesty Queen Elizabeth II's favourite.

by Anonymousreply 67November 24, 2014 11:14 PM

Why not nake it a fondue party?

by Anonymousreply 68November 24, 2014 11:16 PM

bullshots! Beef bouillon with sherry. Noel Coward's favorite.

by Anonymousreply 69November 24, 2014 11:17 PM

Riz a la Imperatrice, which is really just a fancified rice pudding.

Get a jello mold from the thrift store, for a really authentic mid-20th-century presentation!

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by Anonymousreply 70November 24, 2014 11:28 PM

Ditch the grub and throw all your keys into a punch bowl.

by Anonymousreply 71November 24, 2014 11:30 PM

cum

by Anonymousreply 72November 25, 2014 1:28 AM

R58 R59 More on the European songbird.

It's illegal to import them into the USA for consumption given their conservation status. It's illegal (State and Federal laws) to hunt native songbirds in the US for food. Fines (sometimes very steep) and possible jail time.

Game bird hunting is still legal but seasonal for most of those species.

Friends of my parents dined on ortolans in France back in the 70s or 80s. They couldn't stop talking about how delicious they were, while wearing purposefully guilty expressions because they'd never do such a thing in the US.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 25, 2014 12:54 PM

The reason I forgive the Datalounge all its faults, is that it's the only place on the net where multiple people chime in about subjects as obscure as eating ortolans.

by Anonymousreply 74November 25, 2014 3:32 PM

Shrimp Cocktails for appetizers.

Crab cakes made of jumbo lump crabmeat or lamb chops.

Tomato Aspic is always a great side dish as is asparagus with Hollandaise.

For dessert, Cherries Jubilee, Bananas Foster, Coconut Sundae, Napoleons.

by Anonymousreply 75November 25, 2014 4:26 PM

Do I smell Baked Pears Alicia?

by Anonymousreply 76November 25, 2014 4:43 PM

As time goes by R62, I find they are less bold but more nude.

by Anonymousreply 77November 25, 2014 4:46 PM

Are crab cakes and asparagus w/hollandaise old fashioned? I still make them.

by Anonymousreply 78November 25, 2014 5:19 PM

Lamb Chops Victor Hugo

by Anonymousreply 79November 25, 2014 5:36 PM

r77 Care to dine with me, Wednesday week, dear one? A fine dinner, followed by a few hearty rounds of piquet. Do let me know. Au reservoir!

by Anonymousreply 80November 25, 2014 5:46 PM

[quote]R64

I'd venture to guess that most of you here only know about 'Pancakes Barbara' because of its reference in THE WOMEN (1939).

by Anonymousreply 81November 25, 2014 10:17 PM

Tureen Of Beef

by Anonymousreply 82November 25, 2014 10:22 PM

OP, nothing says retro glam better than hollandaise sauce! Let Julia Child, the French Chef, introduce you to The Hollandaise Family! Bon Appétit !

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by Anonymousreply 83November 26, 2014 6:55 PM

R75, thank you for mentioning tomato aspic. I had it once, in the very early 70's (yes, I'm old!) with my recently-widowed aunt and her boyfriend, in a restaurant in what was then a nice downtown, in Rochester, NY (I know, I know! incremently better than Buffalo, perhaps...) I really liked it! Never had since.

And I LOVE this retro thread; more please!

by Anonymousreply 84November 26, 2014 7:27 PM

Snow on the Mountain was something my mother made every year for New Years.

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by Anonymousreply 85November 26, 2014 7:41 PM

Jill St. John

by Anonymousreply 86November 26, 2014 8:00 PM

r82 Don't forget Terrine of Soup, OK?

by Anonymousreply 87November 26, 2014 9:21 PM

What the heck pheasant under glass?

by Anonymousreply 88November 26, 2014 9:23 PM

Turtle Soup

by Anonymousreply 89November 26, 2014 9:49 PM

Nesselrode pie--the real thing, not that awful stuff with pudding and cheap candied fruit.

Mince pie--it used to be the second choice if someone wanted to serve a pie in addition to pumpkin this time of year

Plum pudding with brandied hard sauce--a British oldie for Christmas.

by Anonymousreply 90November 27, 2014 12:25 AM

Peches Melba and Chicken Tetrazinni are old fashioned. Then there's Chicken Maryland which Nicole Diver makes in "Tender Is the Night." But if you really want to go all out, the novelist Sybille Bedford describes the foods of German high society in "A Legacy" and many of the late 19th century dishes have ten syllables. Bedford even tells you what salsa is in her 1954 travelogue "A Visit to Don Octavio" because no one in the US had heard of it. Then, Sally Lunn is a homey colonial dish.

by Anonymousreply 91January 14, 2019 5:32 AM

Kraft old english cheese balls - delish!

by Anonymousreply 92January 14, 2019 5:53 AM

Gelatin desserts - I love to get creative and decorate it into different shapes and colors

by Anonymousreply 93January 14, 2019 5:53 AM

Classic campbell's shrimp dip - serve with potato chips

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by Anonymousreply 94January 14, 2019 5:57 AM

Banana bread

by Anonymousreply 95January 14, 2019 5:57 AM

Baked mac and cheese

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by Anonymousreply 96January 14, 2019 6:14 AM

Mac and cheese is so glamorous and retro, r96!

by Anonymousreply 97January 14, 2019 8:43 AM

R97: 20th century style Ratners restaurant mac and cheese

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by Anonymousreply 98January 14, 2019 1:56 PM
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by Anonymousreply 99January 14, 2019 1:58 PM

Moo goo gai pan or Chicken Almond Ding

by Anonymousreply 100January 14, 2019 2:52 PM

Glamour AND retro seem to be lost on many here, Aspic yes. Mac and cheese and Moo Goo Gai Pan, no.

by Anonymousreply 101January 15, 2019 1:58 AM

This calls for Chicken Pontalba (fried breast on a bed of potatoes and tasso ham with Bearnaise sauce over it)

by Anonymousreply 102January 15, 2019 2:42 AM

Pig On A Blanket!

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by Anonymousreply 103January 15, 2019 2:52 AM

Look no further than the menu of the legendary Chez Cary, in Orange, California, the best restaurant in Orange County throughout the 1960s and 1970s:

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by Anonymousreply 104January 15, 2019 3:15 AM

This thread itself is so old as to be retro! R90 was from 2014, then suddenly *poof* it was 2019! How glamorous!

by Anonymousreply 105January 15, 2019 3:43 AM

So are dishes popular in 2014 now considered retro as well?

by Anonymousreply 106January 15, 2019 4:20 AM

Yes R106!

by Anonymousreply 107January 15, 2019 4:32 AM

Steak Oscar

by Anonymousreply 108January 15, 2019 4:41 AM

May I recommend the cookbook, Edwardian Glamour Cooking Without Tears, by Oswell Blakeston?

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by Anonymousreply 109January 15, 2019 4:47 AM

Chicken a la King

Floating Island

by Anonymousreply 110January 15, 2019 5:01 AM

R26, my step grandmother had a collection of cookbooks from the world over. Time Life? No idea now. But the French edition had many recipes like it. She made a few of them, but mostly we went out. I never saw anything like I had seen in that French cookbook especially.

by Anonymousreply 111January 15, 2019 5:59 AM
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