What are some glamorous retro dishes?
I'm having a dinner party and would like to feature some. I'm thinking of high glamor cuisine from the 19th/20th centuries that you don't find too frequently anymore. A couple I've thought of so far: shrimp louie and lobster thermidor.
Glam cocktail suggestions also welcome.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 15, 2019 5:59 AM
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Oysters Rockefeller
Rack of Lamb
Baked Alaska for dessert!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 24, 2014 3:27 AM
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Pink lady cocktails....or martinis and turkey tetrazini
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 24, 2014 3:27 AM
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Raw or baked Oysters
Roast Mutton, Pork or Turkey,
Stewed Rabbits
Plum Pudding
Mince Pies
Nesselrode
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 24, 2014 3:32 AM
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Beef Wellington. Expensive, but delicious, and not incredibly difficult to make.
And if you want to be retro-piss-elegant, make something in aspic for an appetizer!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 10 | November 24, 2014 3:33 AM
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R6 That looks like some recipe that appeared on Weight Watchers recipe cards collection that my mother had in the '70's.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 24, 2014 3:33 AM
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Iceberg lettuce wedge and bleu cheese rdessing
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 24, 2014 3:34 AM
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Here we go!
Okay, there's nothing more insanely glamorous than "chaud-froid" aspic sauce over meat. It's a sort of opaque aspic which is poured over meat or fish to form a solid coating, which is then decorated like a plastic children's toy. The Salmon Chaud-Froid in the picture is fairly simple, I'll try to find some of the more insane versions that used to exist.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 16 | November 24, 2014 3:39 AM
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I think it's called Ramaki - chicken liver with a water chestnut on top wrapped in bacon.
I remember my mother making these for dinner parties.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 24, 2014 3:40 AM
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soup beans, cornbread weiners and kraut and fried taters and some mustard greens yumm yumm
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 24, 2014 3:41 AM
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In the 1950s, serving meat coated in chaud-froid on a bed of diced aspic was considered to be the height of piss-elegance.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | November 24, 2014 3:42 AM
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Dinner Party Troll, you've done this thread so many times over the years. Why does listing old fashioned dishes obsess you so?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 24, 2014 3:45 AM
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There's nothing like an aspic
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 24, 2014 3:46 AM
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And why are you such a grumpy nitwit r21?
Change your tampon this week. You'll feel so refreshed.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 24, 2014 3:50 AM
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And DL favorite Pancakes Barbara for dessert.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 24, 2014 3:51 AM
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Harlequin Chicken owns this thread.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 26 | November 24, 2014 3:52 AM
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If it doesn't gel, it isn't aspic..
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 24, 2014 4:04 AM
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Stuffed rack of lamb, with tiny party hats on!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 29 | November 24, 2014 4:10 AM
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R2 here, forgot to sign my post.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 24, 2014 4:11 AM
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Daube glace and shrimp Samantha.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 24, 2014 4:11 AM
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Turkey tetrazzini. I love it.
Or beef stroganoff .
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 24, 2014 4:12 AM
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Pretty much any dish that you would see Jack Tripper cook on Three's Company. Seriously.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 24, 2014 4:12 AM
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Coquilles Saint Jacques - basically large scallops broiled in their shell with a creamy sauce over them.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 24, 2014 4:15 AM
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How about Raymond St. Jacques?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 24, 2014 4:19 AM
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R10 is on to something. Beef Wellington is delicious. My mother made it with a red wine and mushroom gravy.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 24, 2014 5:49 AM
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Omg the chaud froid is...wow
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 24, 2014 5:56 AM
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R37 agree. It also reminds me of that great scene from Love and Death when Napoleon is tasting his dish "I said, NO RAISINS." And then something like: I'm sure you had no problem making a beef Wellington!
I also love the mini ones they serve at "good old fashioned cocktail parties."
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 24, 2014 5:57 AM
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I looked up a recipe for chaud-froid sauce, and it's basically a béchamel sauce with gelatin in it. Putting it on chicken breasts or salmon fillets might be fairly simple, but as you have to serve the results cold it might not be seasonally appropriate (outside of Australia). Maybe it could be a fish appetizer?
Still, I'd love it if the stuff had a revival.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 41 | November 24, 2014 6:07 AM
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R27, all these years (well, 25 -- I first saw Psycho in the late 80s as a young boy), I never knew he was saying that. Why, I only learned what 'aspic' is now, reading this thread. (I also used to think Marion was saying "These extended lunch hours give my boss sexist asset" when I was a wee lad.)
R18, you sound hot. Where do you live?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 24, 2014 6:21 AM
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And it's actually a forgiving dish. My mom used the old Joy of Cooking recipe.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 24, 2014 6:30 AM
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Oops, I am referring above to beef Wellington and r39.
R37
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 24, 2014 6:31 AM
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pressed duck, as served at La Tour d'Argent in Paris
gâteau St. Honoré
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 24, 2014 6:52 AM
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You can also find about 80 percent of these dishes at Le Perigord, in NYC.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 24, 2014 6:55 AM
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As you probably know, mince meats pies were once made from meat, often game such as dear.
My aunt once actually did that, presenting her treasured minced meat pies made with venison. No one would eat it though.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 24, 2014 10:13 AM
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R42, I was horrified that, in the dreadful 'remake' with Vince Vaughn, the line was changed to, "If it doesn't gel, it isn't Jell-o.."
Horrified.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 24, 2014 12:37 PM
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>>often game such as dear.
Oh..My.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 24, 2014 12:38 PM
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Lobster a la Riseholme, but of course.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 24, 2014 12:46 PM
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R35 has excellent taste. I used to jack off to Raymond St. Jacques in one of those "Sex in the Cinema" articles in Playboy.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 24, 2014 7:20 PM
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R49, I guess I'm the only one left who still likes mincemeat pie. Every year I buy one for myself, and warm up a slice when I want dessert, because nobody else serves it. I'd even eat the kind with meat in it, just to say I did!
And yes, mincemeat pie is delicious. Think of it as a slightly tart fruit compote, not something you associate with your dreaded momma.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 24, 2014 7:48 PM
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R29 those party hats are known as lamb pants. Something my brother and I had to make for many of my mom's dinner parties
by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 24, 2014 7:55 PM
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[quote]What are some glamorous retro dishes?
Brigitte Bardot
Edy Williams
Joey Heatherton
by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 24, 2014 7:56 PM
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Roast ortolan would really make a statement, if you seek to impress.
Don't forget to provide white napkins for your guests to hide their heads from God.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 58 | November 24, 2014 8:03 PM
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R58, ortolans are a Eurasian/African bird, and not available in the US, unless you have them flown in at great expense. I don't think any culinary tiny songbirds are available in the US.
Tell me, cooks, how does one make a perfect beef wellington when you can't see the beef under the pastry? Meat thermometer?
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 24, 2014 8:17 PM
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There is nothing more memorably mid-20th-century than "Polynesian food"! Put pineapple and sweet-and-sour sauce on rice and hot dogs, and serve with so many Mai-Tais that nobody cares what they're eating!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 61 | November 24, 2014 9:04 PM
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r54 Still painting those bold, female nudes, dear one?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 24, 2014 10:42 PM
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R6 - are those tampons on top?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 24, 2014 10:49 PM
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The original Pancakes Barbara was more like a crepe or clafoutis made with a blackberry sauce.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 24, 2014 11:05 PM
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Lots of retro gems here...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 66 | November 24, 2014 11:10 PM
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Dubonnet with a slice of lemon; her majesty Queen Elizabeth II's favourite.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 24, 2014 11:14 PM
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Why not nake it a fondue party?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 24, 2014 11:16 PM
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bullshots! Beef bouillon with sherry. Noel Coward's favorite.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 24, 2014 11:17 PM
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Riz a la Imperatrice, which is really just a fancified rice pudding.
Get a jello mold from the thrift store, for a really authentic mid-20th-century presentation!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 70 | November 24, 2014 11:28 PM
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Ditch the grub and throw all your keys into a punch bowl.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 24, 2014 11:30 PM
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R58 R59 More on the European songbird.
It's illegal to import them into the USA for consumption given their conservation status. It's illegal (State and Federal laws) to hunt native songbirds in the US for food. Fines (sometimes very steep) and possible jail time.
Game bird hunting is still legal but seasonal for most of those species.
Friends of my parents dined on ortolans in France back in the 70s or 80s. They couldn't stop talking about how delicious they were, while wearing purposefully guilty expressions because they'd never do such a thing in the US.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 73 | November 25, 2014 12:54 PM
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The reason I forgive the Datalounge all its faults, is that it's the only place on the net where multiple people chime in about subjects as obscure as eating ortolans.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 25, 2014 3:32 PM
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Shrimp Cocktails for appetizers.
Crab cakes made of jumbo lump crabmeat or lamb chops.
Tomato Aspic is always a great side dish as is asparagus with Hollandaise.
For dessert, Cherries Jubilee, Bananas Foster, Coconut Sundae, Napoleons.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | November 25, 2014 4:26 PM
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Do I smell Baked Pears Alicia?
by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 25, 2014 4:43 PM
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As time goes by R62, I find they are less bold but more nude.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 25, 2014 4:46 PM
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Are crab cakes and asparagus w/hollandaise old fashioned? I still make them.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 25, 2014 5:19 PM
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r77 Care to dine with me, Wednesday week, dear one? A fine dinner, followed by a few hearty rounds of piquet. Do let me know. Au reservoir!
by Anonymous | reply 80 | November 25, 2014 5:46 PM
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[quote]R64
I'd venture to guess that most of you here only know about 'Pancakes Barbara' because of its reference in THE WOMEN (1939).
by Anonymous | reply 81 | November 25, 2014 10:17 PM
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OP, nothing says retro glam better than hollandaise sauce! Let Julia Child, the French Chef, introduce you to The Hollandaise Family! Bon Appétit !
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 83 | November 26, 2014 6:55 PM
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R75, thank you for mentioning tomato aspic. I had it once, in the very early 70's (yes, I'm old!) with my recently-widowed aunt and her boyfriend, in a restaurant in what was then a nice downtown, in Rochester, NY (I know, I know! incremently better than Buffalo, perhaps...) I really liked it! Never had since.
And I LOVE this retro thread; more please!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | November 26, 2014 7:27 PM
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Snow on the Mountain was something my mother made every year for New Years.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | November 26, 2014 7:41 PM
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r82 Don't forget Terrine of Soup, OK?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | November 26, 2014 9:21 PM
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What the heck pheasant under glass?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 26, 2014 9:23 PM
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Nesselrode pie--the real thing, not that awful stuff with pudding and cheap candied fruit.
Mince pie--it used to be the second choice if someone wanted to serve a pie in addition to pumpkin this time of year
Plum pudding with brandied hard sauce--a British oldie for Christmas.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | November 27, 2014 12:25 AM
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Peches Melba and Chicken Tetrazinni are old fashioned. Then there's Chicken Maryland which Nicole Diver makes in "Tender Is the Night." But if you really want to go all out, the novelist Sybille Bedford describes the foods of German high society in "A Legacy" and many of the late 19th century dishes have ten syllables. Bedford even tells you what salsa is in her 1954 travelogue "A Visit to Don Octavio" because no one in the US had heard of it. Then, Sally Lunn is a homey colonial dish.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 14, 2019 5:32 AM
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Kraft old english cheese balls - delish!
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 14, 2019 5:53 AM
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Gelatin desserts - I love to get creative and decorate it into different shapes and colors
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 14, 2019 5:53 AM
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Classic campbell's shrimp dip - serve with potato chips
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 94 | January 14, 2019 5:57 AM
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Mac and cheese is so glamorous and retro, r96!
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 14, 2019 8:43 AM
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R97: 20th century style Ratners restaurant mac and cheese
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 98 | January 14, 2019 1:56 PM
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Moo goo gai pan or Chicken Almond Ding
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 14, 2019 2:52 PM
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Glamour AND retro seem to be lost on many here, Aspic yes. Mac and cheese and Moo Goo Gai Pan, no.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 15, 2019 1:58 AM
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This calls for Chicken Pontalba (fried breast on a bed of potatoes and tasso ham with Bearnaise sauce over it)
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 15, 2019 2:42 AM
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Look no further than the menu of the legendary Chez Cary, in Orange, California, the best restaurant in Orange County throughout the 1960s and 1970s:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 104 | January 15, 2019 3:15 AM
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This thread itself is so old as to be retro! R90 was from 2014, then suddenly *poof* it was 2019! How glamorous!
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 15, 2019 3:43 AM
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So are dishes popular in 2014 now considered retro as well?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 15, 2019 4:20 AM
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May I recommend the cookbook, Edwardian Glamour Cooking Without Tears, by Oswell Blakeston?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 109 | January 15, 2019 4:47 AM
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R26, my step grandmother had a collection of cookbooks from the world over. Time Life? No idea now. But the French edition had many recipes like it. She made a few of them, but mostly we went out. I never saw anything like I had seen in that French cookbook especially.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 15, 2019 5:59 AM
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