Famous Clairvoyants & their prophesies...

Miss Cleo predicted this specific thread on DL.

[quote] As far as I know there have been prophesies that came true

Then why don't you provide examples?

[quote]Then why don't you provide examples?

I did...the Kennedy assassination.

I think there was also a woman who predicted the Hindenburg disaster...or did they just add that on for the movie?

In the 1950s, Jeane Dixon predicted that the winner of the 1960 presidential election would not finish out his term, but didn't specify who it would be or how. When Kennedy was assassinated, she took credit for foreseeing it.

The future is not set in stone. One has the right to change one's path to prevent anything form happening, good and bad.

People think I'm nuts but the day before September 11th I knew something terrible was about to happen. I assumed it was to do with my family or friends and I was calling everyone the night of September 10th making sure they were okay. Its hard to explain and I've never had that feeling before or since. I just felt terrified but for no reason.

This reminds me of a stunt James Randi tried to pull off in his younger years:

[quote]When he was still a young man appearing in Toronto nightclubs and pretending to predict the future, Randall Zwinge created what he hoped would be his greatest trick. Each night before he went to bed, he wrote the date on the back of a business card along with the words "I, Randall Zwinge, will die today." Then he signed it and placed it in his wallet. That way, if he were knocked down in the street or killed by a freak accident, whoever went through his effects would discover the most shocking prophecy he ever made. Zwinge kept at it for years. Each night, he tore up one card and wrote out a new one for the next day. But nothing fatal befell him; in the end, having wasted hundreds of business cards, he gave up in frustration. "I never got lucky," he told me.

The article also discusses a decades-long hoax he pulled off with his partner (now husband), who posed as a 2,000 year old spiritual entity and toured the globe talking up doomsday prophecies Randi created to take the piss out of believers.

[quote]I did...the Kennedy assassination.

Who predicted the Kennedy assassination?

I predicted this thread.

[quote]Who predicted the Kennedy assassination?

See R4

[quote]People think I'm nuts but the day before September 11th I knew something terrible was about to happen.

Add me to the list of people who think you're fucking nuts.

I've predicted unimportant things or I've seen the future, because you can pretty much see the way bad things happen but there was never anything I could do with the information that I knew was true (and for the most part it was true). I don't believe anyone has ever predicted anything that changed the course of events.

I say if there is ever an event where something good could happen or something bad could happen, put your money on the bad.

It's possible that things have been predicted but I don't remember it.

Seems to me someone should have predicted the tsunami which killed a hundred thousand people.

I've had plenty of dreams where I predicted useless information. Usually I'll wake up in the middle of the night and just know something.

I predict awful things will happen everyday. That doesn't mean I'm a psychic and definitely doesn't make me the life of the party.

But I'll bet you all knew that.

A friend worked as a business consultant on Wall Street. He was a psychic who advised them on investments.

Then he started telling them to get out of tech stocks and one-by-one they fired him because they did not want to hear it.

There are people who can make accurate predictions...but if no one wants to hear them then there is no point.

If he's your friend, R16...has he predicted other things that have come true?

As he predicts finance, is he a multi-millionaire?

Here's a prediction you can take to the bank...

Stocks will rally straight through at least the 10th of January, 2015. Then things get cloudy. There will be a significant correction before the middle of the year, 2015. So, stay pat or buy today, but get out early in 2015. Have lots of cash handy to buy back in when the market dips, just don't jump in too quickly, because this will be a bigger correction than we've seen in a while.

You're welcome.

Did Jean Dixon or Sylvia Brown predict their deaths?

Anyone know James Van Praagh?

[quote]Did Jean Dixon or Sylvia Brown predict their deaths?

In fact, Sylvia thought she'd live eleven years longer than she actually did.

R 17

Yes he has made other true predictions.

And yes, though he is not a multi-millionaire he is very comfortable, having made good career moves and investments. He does have an edge, I guess.

Is Chip Coffey gay?

R16 - his prediction was to get out of tech stocks?

Wow, that's helpful information.

You would think his prediction would be which stocks to sell short and when.

Most of these people are scam artists.

R24

I am sure he made other predictions as well. But when he told them to get out of tech, they got annoyed.

Then the bubble burst.

I think people only hear predictions they want to be true.

I thought he was crazy when he told me not to buy a condo, just before the real estate collapse, and I would have ignored that advice if other circumstances had not prevented me from buying real estate.

If you make enough predictions, you can claim credit when one or two actually happen. Meanwhile, nobody will remember he ones that failed to come true. Political pundits gain credibility this way.

Jean Dixon was a well-known charlatan. Her thing was that she would predict tons of different things, and although she had a remarkably low hit-ratio, she'd take credit for the few predictions she ever got right.

It's interesting that her claim about predicting the Kennedy assassination was based on his being elected in 1960.

William Henry Harrison, the first president to die in office was elected in 1840. Abraham Lincoln was elected in 1860 and was assassinated. James Garfield (elected 1880) and William McKinley (re-elected 1900) were both assassinated. William G. Harding (elected 1920) and Franklin D. Roosevelt (re-elected 1940) both died in office.

Jean Dixon would have been one of only a handful of millions of people who would have speculated about the death of whoever won the election in 1960, as I'm sure she speculated the same about whoever won the election of 1980. (Unfortunately, in that case, she would have been wrong.)

On a separate note, it's a good thing that the so-called (and well-known) presidential curse ended before 2000. Al Gore seems like a nice guy.

My Grandmother read tea leaves on Myrtle Avenue in NYC for a decade or longer. She quit after she was arrested. Decades later, she was very matter of fact about how she simply read people, not tea leaves. You look for a wedding band, a bruise, worn clothing, or tears.

She charged for tea and sandwiches, not fortune telling. That was free. The judge apparently didn't see it that way.

I knew not to be in New York in 2011, and I kept telling people I kept seeing the word "World" concerning it. It made no sense, except for feeling it was a terrorist attack. It helped no one, but it kept me out of Manhattan that year.

Big deal. Glimpses of something vague amid a lot of things that don't pan out don't have much value, except when asked something in a thread.

The only things I've gotten specific notions of were inane items, such as telling a woman her sister was giving her something yellow for her bed (a yellow bedspread) and that my sister was having a baby prematurely at a particular moment 1,000 miles away.

[quote]Is Chip Coffey gay?

O, my sides!

Is there more than one person who posts "oh my sides!"? Isn't this originally from Bewitched? I love it, but I'ver never heard anyone use it, other than Sammy.

[quote]Is there more than one person who posts "oh my sides!"?

Plenty.

R26 - my point is a series of general predictions like "get out of tech stocks" of "don't buy a condo" are useless. You make enough of them and you're bound to get something right.

I kept pretty detailed notes on my yearly session with my friend, and then reviewed his predictions before going on to the next. He was usually about 85-90% right on saying what would happen, but only 60% to 80% about when things would occur. He was usually not off by more than 2 or 3 weeks, so I used him a lot when I worked as a freelancer. He gave great advice on what jobs to take, which to avoid, what problems would come up in the workplace, what events would interfere. I never wanted to get too much into personal stuff since he was a friend.

R34

In my case as I just posted, I kept records of his predictions. The condo thing stood out because he had not made any predictions for me in years--and this one came out in ordinary conversation which was unusual for him. Also, the conventional wisdom was that you could never lose on investing in real estate and he was the one person who told me I would. And he turned out to be right.

However, that said, most psychics are fakes. If you feel a need to see one, I recommend taking detailed notes, so you can keep score. And avoid any who encourage you to come back frequently. No one needs to get a reading more than once or at most twice a year.

I have not felt the need to have a reading close to 20 years. It really helped me when I was beginning my career. But once I was established, there was not anything I needed the advice on.

Imagine how that would've played out if the trend had continued into the last two elections in the series.

About real estate, and the old conventional wisdom that one couldn't lose money in real estate, even before the recent mega-crash, there was evidence:

Boston in 1988-1992 had falling real estate prices. I think it was true all over New England and New York, too.

Earlier, it might have been the late 1970s or 1980s, Texas had a period of falling housing prices.

Detroit looks like it's housing problems predate the recent mega-crash.

Florida has had swampland real estate scans since at least the 1920s.

So, I know it was conventional wisdom that real estate couldn't lose money, but there was actually a lot of history proving otherwise.

R6, I did not predict 9/11, but that night, I slept very poorly. That is extremely unusual for me. I sleep like a rock. I woke up very early (for me), and couldn't get back to sleep. That too, is unusual for me. I told my husband something bad had happened. I turned on the radio, and reports of the first two attacks were reported.

I have never had an experience like that one since.

Re psychics, I have had readings, all over the phone, and all picked up on different things that were accurate. The best reading I have ever received was from a psychic named Barb Powell. I always start as a skeptic. She said something and I answered her in my mind, saying to myself "it is my fault". In the context, she could not have known that was my response, but she responded without missing a beat, by saying "No, it is not your fault".

She also told me I had a serious health issue, and to go see the doctor right away. It turned out she was right on that too.

Sighted people exist. Prophesies I doubt, but some predictive forecasting maybe.

It is a kind of madness. Wouldn't want to suffer it. Known a few, but they were not very good at business. Bit like art, in that sense.

R7, I responded to a Vegas Craigslist ad, seeking volunteers to help test the skills of the man described in the NY Times linked article. James Randi's assistant had each of our group of 6 follow the exact same procedure. I had to put my arm on the conference room table, and state whether or not I was receiving energy or a flow of heat.

I immediately picked up on the fact that the gentleman was using very subtle sales techniques to manipulate me into agreeing with him. He also was using the power of suggestion. The position in which I was required to hold my arm was so uncomfortable that I felt a buzz of heat. I then explained that the testing procedure was deeply flawed, and opted out.

[quote]She also told me I had a serious health issue, and to go see the doctor right away. It turned out she was right on that too.

That's NOT clarvoyance.

I don't doubt people can get vibes and feelings about people and can advise them on it.

I started this thread to hear of people who have PREDICTED stuff. Foreseen things about the future that came to pass.

I read Jean's book, A Gift of Prophecy, when I was in the 6th or 7th grade (my Grandmother had it and it was a slim text).

Two things I will throw in here that I recall from it that she predicted that have not yet happened.

1. She predicted the Beiring Straits (that little biddy stretch of water between Alaska and Russia) would become "the lifeline" of the United States.

2. She said she saw, and could not over-emphasize this fact, that most of Japan would slide into the Pacific ocean.

Of course, come to think of it, she never mentioned the tsunami that would result to America if that Japan thing ever happened.

But, pin these predictions. Who knows what will happen.

I wonder why the supermarket tabloids don't have "psychic predictions" like they used to? Famous psychics like Jeane Dixon who famously advised Nixon and Nancy Reagan used to contribute each year to the tabloids. . I admit I always got a kick out of those yearly psychic predictions and kept track to see if they came true or not. The National Enquirer had a famous "blue dot" of energy that it used to print in it's magazine that claimed it would bring you good luck as it was psychically charged and a woman who won $60 Million in a California lottery actually claimed it helped her win.

One of those 'experts' on 'Ancient Aliens' claims he's the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce and Ra, but his predictions/dreams always end up being wrong. I think the trick is to always come up with new predictions, that are bigger and more spectacular than the previous ones.

Irene Hughes

FWIW, I remember Jean Dixon's predictions were publicized as heavily influenced by her devotional Catholic faith. I found this link which was the only one (quick search required before getting on with my day) referring to the false prophet truth of the man born in 1962 in the Middle East who'd initially be seen as a Savior.

As a kid I remember the false prophet warning in most of her prediction publications. The true Saviot of man would be revealed as/after the s_it hit the fan. There was predicted to be WWIII which takes place in the Middle East.

Much was made about her prediction associated with the JFK assassination, and she became an almost unquestioned source of predictions (at least in the media circus of the 60s-70s.)

Coincidentally, the way the link describes the people following that false prophet to destruction or choosing the other path is nearly identical to many publicized Native American legendary prophecies. I wonder if the author conflated them.

The subject of Native Anerican prophecies is pretty interesting itself, whether you choose to believe them or not.

It's an out of date book and difficult to find, but Criswell -- yes, THE same Criswell from Ed Wood's movies -- wrote a book of prophecies called "Criswell Predicts: Your Future From Now To The Year 2000!" It's a hoot with predictions like people eating food in pill form, vacation trips to the moon and entire cities populated by homosexuals!

The most compelling thing Edgar Cayce ever said was that after the year 2000, all he could hear is white noise.

R49, Now THAT is spooky!

[quote] Stocks will rally straight through at least the 10th of January, 2015. Then things get cloudy. There will be a significant correction before the middle of the year, 2015. So, stay pat or buy today, but get out early in 2015. Have lots of cash handy to buy back in when the market dips, just don't jump in too quickly, because this will be a bigger correction than we've seen in a while.

Helpful Hal's amazingly accurate stock market prediction in R18, from Nov 2014.

R50, in 2000, they put a cell tower installation right over where Edgar Cayce is buried. He's just getting bad reception from electromagnetic interference.

I predicted the WTC disaster once I stepped outside and saw how blue the sky was that morning. It could only mean one thing...

[quote]Is there more than one person who posts "oh my sides!"? Isn't this originally from Bewitched? I love it, but I'ver never heard anyone use it, other than Sammy.

Samantha's saying was, "Oh, my stars!"

"Oh my stars and whiskers!" No?

r55 Garters, my friend, garters.

r47 If Jean Dixon had such a deep devotional faith, she surely had to know of the Church's prohibition of fortune tellers, palm readers, clairvoyants and similar charlatans.

r48 I have one of Criswell's books, but I'll be damned if I can find it. Maybe I better consult someone so I can locate it.

I like blue.

I predict that Cheryl is gonna show up in this thread at some point. Mark my words.

OP, wealthy psychics? Not if the government gets ahold of them. Sheesh...

My Grandmother read tea leaves on Myrtle Ave in Brooklyn to support her family after Grandpa Otto passed away. She charged for a sandwich, but the reading was free, so as to conform to NYC laws against clairvoyants. She was eventually arrested and had to quit. She told me that it was easy to read people so you really don't need to be psychic. All you need to do is let the customer blab before the reading, then make a bunch of vague but realistic predictions over time. Then, people remember the ones that come true to any extent, and forget the dozens that did not.

I predict that this thread will end in tears.

I knew you'd write that, R61!

Link goes to Nostradamus predictions for 2015. You'll come for the psychic reading but you'll stay for the fucking insane comments... "Anyone who rejects Jesus Christ teachings is from the evil one. A false prophet was foretold. He would perform miricals. He is from the evil one. All Muslims are following a the false prophet"

The only one who predicted 9/11 was a Native American, Here are some of her other predictions (most from the 80s):

Here are some Hopi prophesies:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

[quote] R18: Here's a prediction you can take to the bank...Stocks will rally straight through at least the 10th of January, 2015. Then things get cloudy. There will be a significant correction before the middle of the year, 2015. So, stay pat or buy today, but get out early in 2015. Have lots of cash handy to buy back in when the market dips, just don't jump in too quickly, because this will be a bigger correction than we've seen in a while.

The above was my prediction for stocks in 2015, that I made on November 18, 2014, in R18!! Spot on! My prediction for stocks in 2016:

Stocks will experience a Santa Claus rally into the end of 2015. Then in 2016, they will roar. It's a good time to buy into the market. If congress does something funky, like closing down our government, then things might not go as predicted. Consider buying mutual funds AFTER their yearly dividend and cap gains payout, which usually occurs on either of the first two Friday's in December.

If you buy in to a mutual fund in December, and then it pays a capital gain or year-end dividend payment, you must pay tax on that distribution, even though you've only owned the mutual fund a few days.

Extraordinary, R66/Claire!

Any other predictions?

What about Isis & all that?

Those predictions @ R64 are so general, to the point of ridiculousness.

R67, thank you for the pips!

[quote] R67: Any other predictions? What about Isis & all that?

The Federal Reserve starts to increase interest rates, but so slowly and over so long a period, that it's almost inconsequential.

Isis remains a pimple on the butt cheeks of life. The US drone program continues to kill ISIS leaders, but ISIS will still exist in some form. Even if they change their name, they will remain essentially the same.

Anything other than economy is outside my program, so I'm sorry not go have much for you.

R67, I think it safe to write that oil prices will remain at low levels through the 2016 year. It's about $40 per barrel today. It might slip as low as $35 per barrel; however, I think it will end the year slightly higher, but no higher than $60 per barrel. This will coincide with continued low inflation.

[quote]Helpful Hal channeling Channing Tatum

You're marvellous...you really are!

Late to the party, but my predictions in R70 & R66 for the stock market and oil prices were pretty accurate.

Just a brag. Nothing humble about it.

I seem to recall that Sylvia Browne once declared a missing, abducted child as absolutely, positively dead as a doornail; live kid re-appeared later.

Nostradamus foretold the coming of Lens Dunham centuries ago in his ancient prophecies.

"And, Lo! A human potato form will walk the land

Demanding attention from each woman and man!"

There is a story about Nosferatu’s burial. He predicted that someone would dig up his body, and drink from his skull. This person would inherit Nosferatu’s powers of curing the sick, and prophecy, but he would never use them.

It happens that when the much later grave robbers opened his coffin, his skeleton was wearing a plaque that was inscribed with that very, current date. One of them drank some wine from his skull. He was then hit by an errant bullet, a stray from the Revolution going on nearby, and died.

There was this famous blind Bulgarian woman who allegedly predicted some important events. But, since none of them were written, we don’t really know which of those predictions were really made. Still, the wiki page is an interesting read :

Some predictions come true merely by chance. That said, there is no such thing as clairvoyance. There is no mechanism to predict the future. The future is fundamentally unknowable, and anyone who says otherwise is trying to scam you.

I knew you’d say that, R77!