A dad disappears at the Denvers Bronco game while son went to the restroom.

That's really weird, and very frightening. The whole disappearing without a trace thing has always freaked me out.

From what they are saying, he is a good guy. But you never know - maybe he has a double life and took off with a mistress. ??

Why would a man be abducted or kidnapped? It's not like he was a flashy guy who looked like he had money. And if he was, you'd think he'd be yelling and putting up a fight - someone would have had to have seen and/or heard something. The place was packed.

I'm looking forward to seeing this unfold and hope he's ok.

I read about this on a couple sports sites. Pretty weird. If he took off and left his son there to worry he is a complete dick.

Family "checked at detox centers"... maybe an alcoholic that said "fuck it" and went on a bender?

Odd story.

Bet he's cozied up in his new woman's bed.

r1 there's no way he was kidnapped, at least not in the stadium. There's really no scenario in which he's forced out of their against his will, exactly for the reasons you said--it's packed, lot of security, no weapons allowed inside.

Thinking he definitely took off. Maybe he'll turn up in a couple days. Maybe not.

Duh. It was the Rapture and he was the only person in the whole world deemed worthy.

He got lost going back to his seat, panicked, left the stadium, and then said, fuck it, they'll find me if they want to and went roaming.

Probably loitered outside for a long time waiting.

No cell phone is just eccentric but no credit card is somebody who is hiding something.

Have they checked glory holes in and around the stadium?

Both he and his son look..."special".

His son was interviewed on the news. He acted..."special".

also I just now see the horrible typo before anyone calls it out.

And who doesn't carry a cell phone these days? I know people who don't like em, don't use em, but they at least have a basic 1990s style flip phone for emergencies and shit.

Nefarious doings are afoot.

Remember the guy that faked drowning at the beach and his son was in on it? It's going to turn out like that.

That puffy, red face is a dead giveaway.

Alkie.

[quote]Probably loitered outside for a long time waiting.

It's been 4 days

Probably just got sick of his life and decided to flee.

obviously one of three things:

1. He deliberately disappeared to start a new life. Hence, no identifying or locating cards, phone, etc. Money stash hidden at a pick-up spot.

2. He was kidnapped. In a crowd. At random. A grown man and not a small and helpless child.

3. The last person to see him arranged for his demise and disappearance. That would be his adult son.

I will CUT you, R6.

Websleuths are on it

I'm assuming a place like a stadium will have tons of security cameras. The police will be able to track him, i'd think.

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R20, thanks for that link, I've never seen it before. Interesting stuff.

How old is the son he was with? He could had a stroke or lost his memory I suppose.

Or jumped in a lake or something. Never any closure for these families

1st time at a pro game + 1st time in a large city + easy access to beer + alcohol addiction = he's outta there.

Screw his son and their friends who gave them the tickets. He's on a bender and probably dead by now.

The End.

R24, the son is actually a stepson. Some of the news articles said he was 20, others said 21.

"He had consumed only four or five beers in the course of a four-hour span"

ONLY?? I'm not familiar with drinkers - that sound like a lot to me. Is it?

There was a body found near the stadium but it doesn't appear to be him...how many damn people are missing around there?

He didn't have a phone or credit cards? Yeah, that's normal.

He wanted to disappear.

No. Not a lot of beer. He was still probably able to drive legally.

R27, that's nothing for an adult man.

Agatha Christie-reading, armchair sleuth here. One thing that often comes up - from the mouths of the particular detective - in an Agantha Christie novel (and doubtless from other mystery novelists) is a reminder to:

Listen to what is said BY an another person only. Meaning - and I wondered about this from the beginning; sorry if it sounds terrible:

Has anyone besides the son (or step-son; if the latter, that is more interesting) actually SEEN this guy? Is there independent "proof" that the came to the game?

My point: I wonder if the son/step-son "did him in" before, and the body is disposed of somewhere.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Maybe he abandoned his family.

r27 what link was that from? Didn't see it but now it seems like a pretty obvious confirmation that he was getting loaded and probably left to keep drinking somewhere... which turned into a 'Lost Weekend' and probably death scenario.

But also for a big guy like him in that much time that's really not a lot of beer at all, even at your standard 16 oz stadium beer. In four hours he might just barely be buzzed.

After that amount though you wanna keep drinking and chase the feeling, especially if he's an alcoholic, so maybe he decided that with his $50 he could get plastered outside. Seems the most likely scenario to me.

[quote]Has anyone besides the son (or step-son; if the latter, that is more interesting) actually SEEN this guy? Is there independent "proof" that the came to the game?

If you scroll down there is a picture of the 4 of them at the game.

Fugue state? It is possible that he had an episode of a dissociative disorder. Many years ago I used to work at a crisis mental health facility in a rural N. California town. In the course of two years we had two of these cases.

Both times police and county officials were able to identify and return them home. I was on shift when one patient was admitted. She was a bit "off." I can't recall if she had other diagnoses; she likely wasn't extensively evaluated since she was put on a bus back to Utah within a couple of days.

Stranger Danger. One of the "websleuth" posters said, "I use photoshop every day...." Really? Who would use photoshop every day?

Reminds me of this poor guy who went missing without a trace at a concert. They later discovered he somehow fell to his death down a garbage chute. :(

Paul Kitterman, 53, and his son, Jarod, 20, were enjoying their first football game at Sports Authority Field on Thursday night after driving from their home in Kremmling with two friends, Denver’s Channel 9 reported.

The father and son, whose seats were not next to pals Tia Bakke and her boyfriend, met up with their buddies at halftime.

“Paul’s like, ‘We’ll see you after the game,’ ” Bakke recalled. Jarod then went to use the bathroom and was supposed to meet his dad back at their seats. Only Paul never showed up.

“He’s absolutely nowhere to be found,” Bakke said. “It’s been the longest, [most] miserable three days of our lives.”

You make it sound like the kid was four years old.

R37 - a graphic designer.

possibly thought he would go to the top of the stadium and jump off or something.

He's a known homosexual for god's sake.

I was wondering if he fell down someplace where no one has found him yet. Why leave to drink if he could drink at the game? It was only half time, wasn't it?

If it can happen to me and I'm very important, it can happen to anyone.

The missing man and his stepson attended the game with two other people, but they sat in a separate section from the other two.

They all met together at half-time and were supposed to meet up after the game, but the other two people were not with them continuously, so it is really just the stepson's story.

Not that I think he's necessarily lying.

In the group photo he looks about 5 feet tall compared to the other people. Or, are they all GIANTS?

[quote]From what I read, he was in his seat when his son left to go to the restroom, so whatever caused him to leave his seat must have happened very quickly after his son walked away - so either a very small and coincidental "window of opportunity" for foul play, or the chance he had waited for to disappear voluntarily.

Exactly.

[quote]From what I read, he was in his seat when his son left to go to the restroom, so whatever caused him to leave his seat must have happened very quickly after his son walked away

What would make him get up? Maybe his son was taking too long in the bathroom, so he went to go check on him?

He may have wondered off on his own, but I bet he is dead now.

Got lost, panicked, left the stadium. Waited outside until dark, searched out alcohol, got bombed, went outside, looked for a warm place to sleep under a viaduct or culvert or something, fell asleep, died of hypothermia in the night.

I feel terrible for his family. When my dad was 53 he went missing and I was the last person that spoke to him before he disappeared. He told me he would meet me at work at 9am and he never showed up.

I don't want to go into any more details, but we never found him. It was a hellish experience and it still haunts me since we never found out what happened to him. Anyway, I hope the family finds him whether he's alive or dead and can get some closure.

The guy refused to have a cellphone or credit cards? Come on.... he's some kind of scammer.

A couple of years ago a guy disappeared on the beach here on Lawn Guyland. His son was with him and reported him missing. It was a scam and the 22 year old son as well as the father went to jail.

[quote]Why leave to drink when he could drink at the game?

Fifty dollars buys a lot more beer at a liquor store than at a stadium.

Fuck R51.. I'm really sorry to hear that. :(

[quote] In the group photo he looks about 5 feet tall compared to the other people. Or, are they all GIANTS?

I believe that's because he's sitting down and the others are standing.

If he got lost, he could have used a pay phone or notified security or the police.

I think it's strange that the police are already saying "no foul play" .. Maybe they know something?

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He had no credit card and had taken only $50? That money would only cover the 4 or 5 beers he had in the stadium (unless someone else was buying). He had no money to binge on by time he left/disappeared. If he had a debit card there would be some kind of a trail.

He was also from a rural area two hours away, without a vehicle, and in a place he wasn't familiar with. How far would he have had to walk to find a drink? And he just doesn't strike me as the sort with a secret life or who has an alias and a fake account.

Mark my words: It was alcohol what done it.

Also - he is not married. I wonder how long he was married to, and how long he has been divorced from, the stepson's mother. Hmmmm..

[quote]And he just doesn't strike me as the sort with a secret life or who has an alias and a fake account.

If TV crime dramas taught me anything, it's always the ones you don't suspect...

Some psychic troll will probably offer to help "find him". Ugh.

R38, That man was murdered. People don't accidentally fall down garbage shoots and his official cause of death is undetermined yet police say it was accidental. Please! That guy was beaten up and had his body shoved down the garbage shoot. The police just chose not to investigate it and ruled it accidental.

His stepson went back to his seat for the second half of the game and didn't worry about his stepdad until the game was over? If I'm sitting next to a family member and that person suddenly disappears, I would probably call my friends whom I came to the game with and find out if that person is with them, right away. The stepson obviously had a cell phone since his friends called to tell him where they would be waiting when the game was over. The cops obviously know what happened and did not share the security tapes with the family because the family is involved. Always suspect the worst when it comes to a family member, they can never be trusted.

He had explosive diarrhea.

Son killed him and then ate the evidence.

someone ate him up.

The world of a heterosexual is a sick and boring life.

For the last ten years the missing man had worked for the thirty year old guy who had given him the ticket.

What does a twenty year old do that he can hire someone?

r64: garbage CHUTE.

Carry on.

[quote]What does a twenty year old do that he can hire someone?

Inherited a ranch?

shot, shoot, whos in the garbage chute?

The Leftovers?

R70, Kitterman, the missing man, appeared to do odd jobs as a handyman on a ranch. So, I assume a family owned ranch with the 30 year old part of the family.

disappears?

Ha...ha I'll say!!!

Stepson

Have they checked the woodshed?

[quote]What does a twenty year old do that he can hire someone?

Inherit a family business, be put in charge of a family business, start his own company via funding from his parents. It's not as unusual as you might think.

How long was the stepson in the restroom. Was he going number one or number two? Do the urinals have privacy shields? Glory holes in the stalls?

So is the only stadium in the world without cameras?

I love stories about people who have mysteriously disappeared.

The link to the Wikipédia page on mysterious disappearances is fascinating.

My favorite is Lord Lucan. Someone needs to make a movie about that.

The Lord Lucan story has it all: fabulous London townhouse, a member of the upper nobility who was never seen or heard from again and, of course, a bloodied Lady Lucan running into a Belgravia Square pub screaming "murder" while decked out in mod English fashions!

R58: In every pic of the stepson, he is wearing a baseball cap. Why do grown men wear baseball caps as an everyday item?

R83, There's only two reason why men wear caps. The first is done by mostly young men because they don't have to fix their hair. The second is men who are balding and are self-conscious about it.

R82 -- I was a HUGE fan of the "Unsolved Mysteries" TV show! I haven't seen the newer series "Disappeared", but it sounds promising.

R85, It's cancelled. There's 2 seasons though. It's not as good as Unsolved Mysteries.

Who gave the friend the tickets for that game? When? Why?

Did the group drive to the game in one vehicle? Did they stop anywhere on the way to / from the stadium?

PK did not bring his cell phone to the game.

Is PK's cell phone located at his home? This has not been reported.

Has PK's cell phone been checked by family? This has not been reported.

Has PK's cell phone been checked by LE? LE has found no reason to do so.

Have PK's phone records been subpoenaed by LE for review? LE has found no reason to do so.

Did PK's stepson call PK's cell phone and / or home phone before they eventually left the stadium (if they thought PK might then be home to answer it)?

How many photos were captured of PK / anyone else in the group at the game?

Who captured the photos?

Are they saved on the same or different storage devices (be that camera, phone or memory card)?

Have buses and / or train stations (near stadium and his home) been checked for surveillance videos?

[bold]Is it time to make inquiries regarding Life Insurance / beneficiaries [/bold]or is it too soon?

[quote]I can't get past the fact that a deceased male was found not far from the stadium. I know the police are saying they don't think it's Paul but it is just such a coincidence. I googled it and it is 1.5 miles from the stadium.

[quote] There's only two reason why men wear caps. The first is done by mostly young men because they don't have to fix their hair. The second is men who are balding and are self-conscious about it.

Not just those reasons. Men who are balding or bald wear caps outside for warmth in cold weather and for protection from the sun for their exposed skin in warm weather.

Kitterman lived in rural Colorado and worked outside as a ranch hand and sometimes doing construction work. He would have worn caps for protection.

He could have slipped hit his head and suffered amnesia.

Bye Felicia.

My first thought in case like this always goes the sinister route until proven otherwise. Too many Theresa Jarding's out there especially when it comes to older guys. I hope he is found alive.

He's fine, he sends his love.

[quote] Is it time to make inquiries regarding Life Insurance / beneficiaries or is it too soon?

He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would have life insurance, or much of anything really.

Lived alone, divorced a couple of times, lived in rural area where he did manual labor for a living.

Seemed like a sweet guy. Sad :(

Surely, his employer and friends would have something of an idea of who he hung out with. I believe he lived on the ranch.

The Daily Mail said that the tickets were offered at the last moment and they rushed out of the house. It seemed implied that the cell was left behind in their haste, but a friend described him as a "simple man" who didn't like technology much. It almost sounds like he's the kind of a guy who wouldn't have a credit card either.

Most accurate reporting seems to be... they all met up at half time. Jarod went to the bathroom and could see the other 3 until he was about 5th in line for the bathroom. Then there was a wall in the way. Then the 3rd quarter was starting and the couple left to go back to their seats and left Paul to wait for Jarod to come out of the washroom. Jarod didn't see Paul when he came out so he went to his seat. When Paul wasn't there too, he thought Paul maybe went to sit with the other couple.

If both the stepson and the friend had cell phones, I wonder why no text was sent..."hey, is Paul with you? he didn't come back to his seat..."

He had an attack of fibromyalgia and his body will be found in water.

I could be way off but I'm really thinking he became overwhelmed or had a medical episode and is trapped somewhere within the stadium.

I've been to two NFL games, the first was about 14 years ago, the second was last year. I had forgotten how loud the games are. By the end of the first half, I had a horrible headache. Halftime was a relief since no one was yelling and most of the stadium clears out for drinks or bathroom breaks.

I can't help but wonder if the noise in combination with the alcohol was to much for him. Especially since he works on a rural ranch. That kind of noise would be difficult to deal with.

He´s been guest hosting on The View.

Mark my words, the whole group was in on it just like Murder on the Orient Express.

Probably the dad has AIDS dementia. He looks the type.

He pulled a Renee. So he's there, but not really there, there.

The plot thickens...

- Court records showed Kitterman had a history of relatively minor motor vehicle citations over more than a decade. More recent legal troubles involved a major bank and the Colorado Department of Revenue.

His friend, Tia Bakke, who went with him to the Broncos game, said she knew he had money problems but doubted that would have been reason for him to vanish at the game.

"If he wanted to leave town because of money problems, he would have come home, gotten all of his money and left," she told ABC News. -

This Tia Bakke bitch has something to do with it, IMO

So...

We have only the adult STEP-son's chronology. Only the STEP-son's story of where the man was headed. Only the STEP-son's story of how long he sat watching the second half, if at all.

Perhaps both STEP-son and Missing Man left the stadium together under some ruse by Sonny Boy ("I found this great bar on the Internet!"), and only ONE man returned.

Maybe STEP-son convinced Missing Man to leave his cell-phone ("We'll have mine!") and credit card ("We'll have mine!") at home.

Follow the life-insurance money.

I sorta think he's hot. In a daddy, ranch hand kind of way.

I saw this on Prisoner: Cell Block H.

What happened is after the guy went missing the jailed woman found out that she had taken out an insurance policy. Only she didn't really do take it out.

These DL threads that become more Nancy Grace than nancy are always good for many unintentional laughs.

Didn't Olivia Newton John's husband disappear?

If only my parents would disappear whenever I worked a gloryhole at a stadium!!

I think he's recently out of rehab. Often addicts have to ditch their phones and and/or get new phone numbers so they won't be contacted (or be tempted to contact) their drug dealers. If he's being monitored to maintain his sobriety, he might be on a tight leash and not permitted to carry credit cards or a lot of cash for the same reason. Available cash/credit burns a hole in their pockets and can be a temptation to relapse.

So maybe he was at the game with his $50 allowance and he just says to himself, "fuck this….beer is bullshit, I need a fix" and left on a bender.

He's probably ac crackpot who walked off on his own.

His friends and family say, "He wasn't the kind of person who would purposely disappear."

But friends and family always say that.

"He wasn't the kind of boy who would kill his schoolmates."

"He wasn't the kind of man to have an affair or hidden life."

"She wasn't the kind of woman who would hurt anyone."

The kind of people who "can't be" those kind of people are usually those kind of people

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R114 is right ..

I see brown... a murky brown substance. And I see... A small pool of clear water.. Yes. This is where he went. This is what happened to -- actually, nevermind, I think it was just the shit his son took.

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Has anyone thought to call in Jessica Fletcher?

The stepson and him were fucking. Mark my words.

A lot of people have mysteriously disappeared at Cowboys Stadium. Don't worry, they'll never find the bodies! I made sure of that! *cackles maniacally*

Who will have this first, "48 Hours", "20/20" or "Dateline"?

How long can one survive in Denver on $50.00?

He was the last member of the Guy Wilson fan club.

How do they know how much cash he had? He could have been planning this & hiding money over time.

Look no further than that hunky, donkey-dicked son of his.

[quote] Court records showed Kitterman had a history of relatively minor motor vehicle citations over more than a decade. More recent legal troubles involved a major bank and the Colorado Department of Revenue.

The clue in R105, and the puffy, red, alkie face (R15)... he's pulled a runner. Left the credit card behind because he wanted a clean break, with less chance of anyone finding him (the phone he may actually have been unattached to, but left it behind at home because -like the credit card- it's only a possible source of tracking him.)

I wouldn't expect there's any life insurance money at stake. He got in financial trouble, say no way of digging himself out, and just wants to disappear. Part-time handyman work for a ranch... it's not like he's leaving much behind.

He works on a ranch, and is in the sun and the wind. That could also be the reason for the red face.

Yes, R128, but why do it in the middle of a football game? He could have disappeared any time and at least had a vehicle and clothes.

I think that the police withholding the specifics of the employee at the stadium who saw Paul Kitterman is interesting. What were the circumstances that made this employee remember specifically that they saw Paul? The police are tight lipped on the specifics of this interaction and I would like to know why.

Fuck you, Sylvia! Let a pro handle this. Have they checked the grassy knoll?

Nancy Grace is covering this now!

OMG -- "CV" was scrawled on the piss trough.... Solve this clue and you will be close to cracking the case....

BREAKING:: He was found alive!

Details as I get them.

Found alive ??

[quote] By the end of the first half, I had a horrible headache. Halftime was a relief since no one was yelling and most of the stadium clears out for drinks or bathroom breaks.

Mary!

He was found at the Neil Simon Theatre, having fallen asleep during a performance of The Last Ship.

From the Grand Gazette's facebook page: "It has been reported that Paul Kitterman was found alive. We will report more details as more becomes known."

R139, meet R135 and R136

Now that he's found, the morning shows are scrambling for an exclusive interview.

He needs his ass kicked for pulling this shit.

From WS: Now I am doubting the announcement. Could a troll have done that as a mean joke? Someone had posted a screenshot of the Grand Gazettes status to Paul's page, asking if it was true. Then they'd (Paul's page) posted to say they'd have an announcement soon....then that plus all the third party originated posts disappeared

FB page says:

We want to thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers and for sharing this page. We will provide information when the time is right and when the family is ready to release information. THANK YOU ALL..

Bet he got sauced, found a lady and is now embarrassed.

Now it says they will release information when the time is right and when the family is ready.

WTF?

FB knows he's been found but none of the news stations do?

HE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND!

t doesn't say he was found alive.

Another post from WS, and I totally agree:

"I have seen this many times on cases I follow on WS. People ask and beg for help and then they don't give any information when people are no longer needed. In this case, they aren't even giving the information that he has been found okay! Most people only want something simple- "He is back home, he needed a minute away, we are so happy he is back" kind of thing. My fear is that people will start revolting and calling this man all sorts of things soon, with no information. It happens every time. I hope they throw the tiny bone that is needed to spare the family a lot of heartache. I am not saying it is right, I am just saying it happens every single time too little info is given to the public after the entire country has been engaged to care and help."

This is very odd.

He might have ripped someone off, saw a person/s who'd been threatening or looking for him in the stadium and took off. That would explain why he was unprepared and it was unexpected.

WHEN WILL THE TEARS STOP???

WHEN DO THE TEARS STOP??!?!?!

LOL, from WS:

It must be something of a personal nature like meeting and partying with a nice lady and he wants to keep her out of the news. I hope it is just something that he will have a smile on his face about.

When I was 20,I hooked up with a hot Chilien guy from school and contacted no one, the police were searching dumpsters for my body.

WHEN DOES THE LIFETIME MOVIE START CASTING?

The stepson is about to come on CNN, with Don Lemon, right NOW, I think this is LIVE.....

Dean Cain in "While You Were Peeing: The Paul Kitterman Story".

Wait, was he actually found alive?

[quote]but why do it in the middle of a football game? He could have disappeared any time and at least had a vehicle and clothes.

Because he wanted to create a cloud of mystery to distract from a planned disappearance? Because some people who intentionally disappear into obscurity like a bit of a grand gesture to break from their old life? Because he didn't want to turn suspicion toward those close to him? Because if it was something he planned or even did on the spur of the moment, he knew that a car, clothes, phone, and credit card were anchors to old old life - and means of tracking or identifying him?

There are lots of reasons why his thinking might have leaned in one direction or another - take the car, leave the car; take money, make it look like he disappeared with only incidental pocket money... Of course I'm just speculating as others have done. What's likely is the mystery, once solved, will be a let-down to speculators of all stripes.

CNN reporters are wondering "where has he been". The family just told CNN 1 hour ago that they still had no idea where he was and was concerned that he was trapped in the stadium. Last seen on Thursday night....found alive this evening. They will update as soon as they have more info. CNN reporter is going to try to contact the family.

Lots of reports including Denver Police confirming he's been found alive in Pueblo.

From the Denver Police Department's Facebook page:

he was gone for 5 days .. could it have been an emergency he had and was taken to the hospital but since he had no id, he's been there this whole time ? .. or maybe abducted and he was able to escape or he had some sort of mental breakdown, wandered off and got lost ? .. or he willingly left for 5 days .. I hope it's not the last one because then it means he just up and left his stepson there to worry his ass off

How far is Pueblo from the stadium?

Pueblo is about 115 miles south of Denver

He was just found alive and unharmed. On CNN

Far, R164. Not walking distance for sure. Something hinky about all this.

He is found alive. No suspicious or criminal activity. I am guessing he is mentally ill.

The Denver Police Dept has stated that all questions should be directed to Kitterman/family. To me that means that no crime has taken place, he left willingly and chose to be missing for 5 days. Curious to hear more details about what he was doing all that time lol...

They found him.

Thank goodness. Our long national nightmare is over.

so what the fuck. Do we ever get to know what this dousche has to say for himself?

I lived near Pueblo. There's not much there. Really strange.

r173 - how far is Pueblo from the stadium?

Is his fuckhole all stretched out and greasy?

He should have to pay the costs that LE spent looking for him.

Scroll back R174 it's already been posted

Sounds like he went o a bender.

Again, I submit that he was in a fugue state.

So he conveniently transitioned into this "fugue state" just as his two friends went back to their seats and his son went into the restroom, leaving him alone waiting outside the restroom? Nope, I don't think so. He saw an opportunity to bolt and he did just that. Was probably on a bender for the past few days, there were thousands at the football game, not a stretch to imagine one of them was from Pueblo and that is how he ended up there.

He has been put up in a hotel in Pueblo for the night. Doesn't sound like he has any emergent medical conditions to me.

He should have showed up naked at a convenience store like Walt did on Breaking Bad after he was missing a few days.

Dementia?

[quote]So he conveniently transitioned into this "fugue state" just as his two friends went back to their seats and his son went into the restroom, leaving him alone waiting outside the restroom? Nope, I don't think so.

It might not be the case for such a complicated and networked individual such as you are, but some folks are not as "high-functioning" as you claim to be.

He looks like a fat Dabney Coleman.

The stepson is Native and appears to have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

PK may also be FAS, or just mildly retarded?

The Missing poster says he's 5'7" - bullshit! He's a fucking midget, like Tammy Cruise. (Shortness is another common indicator of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.)

I just read this thread from the OP to the last. What a wild ride! R157 KILLED me.

One of the theories about the Lizzie Borden murders is that she committed them in a "fugue state". Can someone explain what that is?

Until I saw that he had been found alive (count me as another one getting all his information about this from DL), I was going to suggest that he DID have life insurance with someone other than the stepson as the beneficiary (to remove suspicion) and that he disappeared so that he could be declared dead, collect the money and split it/share it with whomever. How long does one have to be missing to collect? Six years or so? That might not be too long to wait for a large amount of money. And the stepson was in on it, of course.

R186, Some people "go missing" and end up miles away from their starting point. They cannot explain how they spent the last several hours, or if they've eaten anything. Their memory loss may be so severe that they don't remember their name or other basic info. Causes are extreme stress, trauma, or a more serious medical issue.

Except it all seems wrongster to R186, not a dissociative disorder.

The huge crowds and all that noise sent him into a hysterical fugue state!

LOL R181. WW for you!

R188 = Courtney Love

The fact that the police have directed all questions to the family and the family is remaining quiet can only mean that this was a planned disappearance and there are obviously some issues within the family.

Alien abduction.

[quote]Their memory loss may be so severe that they don't remember their name or other basic info. Causes are extreme stress, trauma, or a more serious medical issue.

That's true. And then there are those who do the opposite. They hallucinate events that never happened. An example is that elderly hotel maid who thinks Kirstie Alley prevented her from being a movie star.

I need to know what really happened

I'm starting to like the guy:

[quote]The Colorado father who was found safe in Pueblo Tuesday, five days after he went missing during a Denver Broncos game, told police that he took off because he 'had his fill of football,' it was revealed today.

Although they found him standing in a K-Mart parking lot. That's a little weird.

[quote]The Colorado father who was found safe in Pueblo Tuesday, five days after he went missing during a Denver Broncos game, told police that he took off because he 'had his fill of football,' it was revealed today.

Okay, he sounds retarded. That's why he isn't allowed a cell phone or credit card.

Alien abduction.

He might have early dementia or something. These people always give reasons. Sure I wanted to drive home, but then I felt like driving around aimlessly until the police picked me up. It was great fun!

What a dirtbag

[quote]One of the theories about the Lizzie Borden murders is that she committed them in a "fugue state". Can someone explain what that is?

A fugue is a common phenomena that most of us have experienced at once time or another.

Here's a good example. Have you ever driven your car somewhere and once you get there, say "I don't remember driving here. Did I stop at all the stop signs? Did I run any red lights?" It occurs when you are intensely thinking about something else and your day to day activities (in this case driving a car) go on "autopilot."

This last usually less than 30 minutes, most people have experienced something similar but it is almost always only a few minutes to less than a half an hour.

Very rarely a fugue state will last days or weeks or years. Most times when people claim a fugue it is not so. They will fail confirmation tests yet repeatedly deny knowing.

A fugue is a state that has NO PHYSICAL causes. For instance, a minor stroke or getting beat up and hit on the head, can cause memory loss but those are physical conditions not a fugue.

KMart?

I love that DL has a fugue state troll.

News reports stated that he does own a cell phone and credit cards, he just didn't have them with him at the football game.

New Jersey is a fugue state.

He's from some dinky town. I wonder if being in a "space" with 75,000 other people triggered something for him?

lmao R203

Damn, I missed my chance to say "Things to do in Denver when You're Dead."

Since pot is legal in CO, maybe he had a really potent brownie or something. A few bites of one of those edibles can really put you out if you're not careful.

One time I was high off brownies I couldn't move my arms or speak. I was partying with friends and my boyfriend visited and kept asking me what was wrong...why wasn't I talking to him. He ended up saying "I guess I'm not welcome at this party" and left while I was just sitting there, high as fuck.

That wouldn't explain why he disappeared during the game, but it might explain why it's been five days since they'd heard from him.

Last night Nancy Grace was all concerned for him...I'll bet she's going to skewer his ass tonight. I can't wait....

Another reason why the family is loathe to comment:

because they are embarassed that this guy didn't / doesn't give two flying fucks about their well being.

while his step son was taking a piss, he decided he didn't want to be there anymore and just fucking left without telling anyone.

and then when he was found, didn't fucking even think that he did anything wrong to anyone.

The family, after repeatedly saying what a nice and reliable guy he is, is now publically faced with the truth of their ill conceived delusions.

Also - I think it's fairly obvious that this guy just wanted to get his drank on and possibly find a lady friend to party with.

Having your fill of football doesn't = hitchhicking 100 miles to Pueblo.

So much for my theory that he hooked up with another guy in the men's room and they took off together.

And you just know those Pueblo whores are fat as fuck.

I hope Nancy gets an exclusive with one of them tonight.

Well, I'm glad he's okay and look forward to learning the juicy details. But I must admit I was enjoying the mystery of this...we all seem to love a good "disappeared" story.

I still want to know where that Malaysian plane is....

I guess if one doesn't wish to be found, a K-Mart parking lot is the right place to be.

The man sounds like a low-functioning person of limited intelligence, possibly with substance abuse problems, probably with some mental health problems, who became disoriented and wandered off.

Who knows, there may have been more to it. He may have had a small stroke or he may have some early form of dementia. Or maybe he was just drunker/higher than his friends realized.

I think the reason the family said that this was out of character was because they were genuinely concerned and were afraid that if they said otherwise, the police & public wouldn't take it seriously enough.

Please R214. Not the plane story. It's like conjuring up Bloody Mary when you mention that plane around here.

Welp looks like he's slow in the head & wandered off. Nothing more to see here.

Here's my theory:

I think he's in love with that woman friend who brought her bf along. Maybe he got pissed having to watch her fawn all over the bf and then got even more irritated when he didn't get to sit with her. He's not really into football, so maybe he only accepted the invitation because he was going to get to spend time with her. So, when he didn't even get to sit with her he stomped off.

I believe what r218 says is and was a mitigating factor.

I predicted the outcome early on.

Toldja so!

Toldja so!

R219, are you sure you know what "mitigating" means?

It means "lessening."

It could have been far worse. He could have become one of "the people of Walmart"

R201 - Where did you ever get your information from?

Pretty boring ending if you ask me.

Was there a well in the story?

The guy was drunk and horny so he said "fugue it" and left the stadium to get some more drink and ass. Case closed.

If he'd been found with a suitcase, we might have solved the mystery of that guy on DL who hitchiked to NYC and was never heard from again.

Mitigating the situation that he's a complete selfish asshole who left without giving two fucks. If he harbored a crush on the woman and had his feelings hurt, this would mitigate the scenario that he didn't care about any of the people he went to the game with.

I could forgive someone who was hurt and left because they were hurt.

I couldn't forgive someone who just left because they don't give a fuck.

Not sure why this logic was eluding you but I am happy to spell it out.

How does one pronounce "fugue"? I want to be able to use it in daily life a la r226's "fugue it".

TIA

F-You g

He met a man, went off and fucked him for a few days and now has to come up with some bullshit story.

R229, Fugue is pronounced as "f-you-g"

Got it. Thank you.

Dude did a big old "F-you-g" to Colorado, didn't he?

Paul Kitterman slept among trees during 110-mile trek outside Denver:

This is hilarious, really.

"Sgt. Eric Gonzales of the Pueblo, Colo., Police Department told the New York Daily News that Kitterman “decided to go for a walk” south of the stadium in Denver and took his Broncos hat off during his five days off the grid because he didn’t want to be recognized."

Fugetaboutit!

I'm beginning to think Mr. Kitterman's IQ may be a little south of average.

Same R229. If I'm sick of someone's bullshit and I want them to just go away, instead of yelling "fuck you, get lost" I can just spew a "fugue you" and cover both in one!

Would you trust him now to work on your ranch?

No, me neither. So maybe he's unemployed now, too.

Unless he had the good on the ranch owners....in that case they can just dispose of him and maybe bury him on the back forty.

I'ts not like the stepson will be looking for him over the upcoming holidays, right?

The shenanigans of the alcoholic lower classes is not as amusing as it used to be.

This still makes no sense at all.

Ok, so I get that he "had his fill of football". however, HITCH HIKING and walking over 100 miles to get away from it? And not telling anyone? Saying he didn't want to be recognized? That's not a simple "I'm sick of this shit, I'm going home" attitude.

Something doesn't add up.

He *was* recognized and the tip called in is what led the cops to find him. How fucking long would he have been gone, had no one found him out? How did he survive 5 days with no $ and/or credit cards? He was obviously planning on staying away and not being found.

What a piece of shit. Seriously.

[quote] What a piece of shit.

I don't get why a very marginal man with mental problems inspires such anger.

Lots of people on the edges of society run off and either disappear or show up again later.

The only reason this story got any coverage at all was because the man was at a major sports event when he disappeared.

Maybe he was considering suicide and had to go away to think it through. Should he have called, of course but some people have selfish instincts or simply are not sure what is the best thing to do.

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[quote]I don't get why a very marginal man with mental problems inspires such anger.

Seriously?? If someone you loved and cared about just took off for five days, and you didn't know if they were dead or alive.. It's fucked up to do to your family and friends. The asshole should have called someone.

"I don't get why a very marginal man with mental problems inspires such anger."

Wasting police resources by being stupid and selfish

R244, he's obviously not "all there," "right in the head," or whatever other phrase applies.

Nothing he's reported as saying makes much sense at all. Have a little compassion.

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What about it, R247? Isn't that old?

R247.

Wow. That's fucking awful. :(

Someone reported that said Dad had told step- son that he was "hardcore", anyone else hear that.

This sounds like my partner's father when he was in the first stages of dementia. He would disappear for hours and we would be frantic until we would get a phone call from the police or a neighbor asking us to come and fetch him. When we asked him why he left, it was always a vague reason such as he heard his dog barking and he went to look for him (of course, his dog had been dead for years) or he need to purchase something and he couldn't find what he wanted.

Don't be too hard on the guy. I bet he's starting to slip.

He's only 53 y/o, that's pretty young to be suffering from dementia.

The police said he told them he took his Broncos hat off because he didn't want to be recognized. That doesn't sound like someone with dementia. That sounds like someone who didn't want to be found.

R252, not really:

R253 has it right.

[quote] That sounds like someone who didn't want to be found.

It also sounds like someone who isn't thinking straight. Like a baby who thinks that putting a blanket over his head makes him invisible.

It's not rational.

He'd nevah have left had I been allowed to sing at the half time show!

It sounds like a typical hetero guy who doesn't want to reveal his thoughts so everyone around him has to deal with whatever he does no questions asked.

It's pretty obvious that he didn't find back to his seat, was embarrassed and confused and kept going. Had the police not found him, he would have died soon. This is exactly what the police is there for. No scandal here.

Where the fugue am I?"

[252] It's called early-onset dementia, I knew a guy (who was married with kids) who got alzheimer when he was in his early thirties.

The guys a fucking farmhand! He's Lenny from Of Mice and Men. He went looking for a rabbit farm.

[quote] Because he wanted to create a cloud of mystery to distract from a planned disappearance? Because some people who intentionally disappear into obscurity like a bit of a grand gesture to break from their old life? Because he didn't want to turn suspicion toward those close to him? Because if it was something he planned or even did on the spur of the moment, he knew that a car, clothes, phone, and credit card were anchors to old old life - and means of tracking or identifying him?

Nope.

He's just retarded. That's why he doesn't have a cellphone or credit cards. His stepson's mother is probably a toothless tweaker (or a dead weaker) and the family who owns the ranch probably looks after the poor FAS son as well as his tard stepfather. He's probably not even related to the guy but got bounced around and somehow ended up with this farmhand guy who is so Aspy that it didn't matter to him if the kid stayed in the farmhand quarters with him. The two probably live in a trailer and the kid is probably happy just to have a roof over his head and an adult in his life who gives him food and doesn't beat him.

He does have a cell phone and credit cards. He just didn't bring them with him.

No he's not retarded!

Maybe it's a tumor!

It [italic] might [/italic] be a tumor

This guy's claiming he walked 118 miles?

Nope. He caught rides. He hitched.

The world of a heterosexual is sick and boring or whatever you all always say.

It might be retardation; it might be dementia. But if his behavior is attributable to neither, this guy deserves a major slapping.

If retardation, why would a family member leave him alone in that stadium?

And why would the step-son not look for the man instead of watching a dumb game?

Why remove him from the Salvation Army to a motel? I don't get that part.

Who picked him up as he hitchhiked? What's their description of him?

What's the whole story about the tickets in the first place, given that the friends weren't seated nearby?

WHY PUEBLO?

The guy deserves compassion and understanding. That's what he deserves. Of course, those things are always in short supply on DL.

There's no fucking way he walked from Denver to Pueblo. He'd have had to walk along I-25 for almost all of it to get there and the state patrol would have stopped him. And from the looks of him he couldn't have managed waking anyway.

r272, this guy is a liar. You don't know if he is retarded or has dementia you guys are just making things up.

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If there were not some embarrassing or possibly illegal family issue involved, this guy and his sons would be all over the morning news shows giving one satellite interview after another. Something's rotten in Colorado.

This seems like one of those stories that 'caught the nation's attention' and then is abruptly off the radar, never to be heard about again.

Dr Drew did a segment about it on his CNN show last night, but I just caught the tail end of it. I heard one of the panelists discussing what he said about taking off his cap so no one would recognize him....

it's none of our business what happened. he didn't call the police, his family did. Moving on...

It becomes the business of the public when the family makes pleas to the public for the public's assistance in their family matter.

Ohhh, it is sooooooo our business!

R279, yet here you are, keepin' the train rolling!

I'll bet this 50+ year old farmhand rarely uses his cellphone or a credit card.

[quote] WHY PUEBLO

The guy had an "ex-wife" there (probably some skank ho he periodically hooks up with). He hitched rides. Look, how many 53 year old farmhands do you know? It's not a normal job for someone that age. He's obviously not wrapped too tightly to begin with. The poor stepson has been raised by this doofus. There's a whole underworld out there of people living on the fringes of society, barely making it. The guy and the stepson are lucky they have a place to live, thanks to the ranch owners, who are probably real Christians who look after these two poor souls, as opposed to the usual fake Christians who try to mess other people's lives up. The guy who pulled the disappearing act is a marginal person without a lick of sense .... and maybe with a naughty streak. The stepson will probably end up in a Salvation Army center himself if the ranch owners die.

Pueblo is the K-Fed of Colorado towns.

R284, has a great summary.

r280, his family's pleas do not trump his personal privacy. while i would never do something like this, if i DID, i would not owe the public an explanation for my decision.

r287, you surrender your privacy when you do something like this. When you "disappear" for 5 days you are going to get reported as a missing person (unless your family doesn't care enough to call the cops) - why would you expect to not get any media attention?

Pueblo is a town of illegals. While it was the second largest Colorado city in 1960, since then it declined into the Cleveland of Colorado.

Colorado Springs left it in the dust, as did Grand Junction, Fort Collins and a host of Denver suburbs like Aurora.

What's left in Pueblo is just a bunch of old illegal Mexicans.

So it's obvious the guy went there to get some homosexual Mexican love on the down low, from illegals who prostitute their uncut, smelly cocks.

r288, that's fine. I would expect it, but I also wouldn't be obligated to say anything.

Not trying to be mean, but I was wondering if it was a short bus type of thing.

Either that or drugs, or wanting to start a new life.

Maybe all three?!

with that said, please go get yourself some business.

Did he go on a bender? Binge drinking is not something the family would admit, after all.

So those are my guesses - going on a grand alcoholic spree, or the early stages of dementia. Yes, it can happen in the early fifties.

ROFLMAO @ R194!!!

R288, The police aren't going to recoup any money from the guy. He's a marginal person with mental deficits. The media realized what the man was after he was found. He's not a criminal, he's not dangerous and he wasn't confused. There are millions of people like him wandering around the country. This guy just happens to have a somewhat-mentally-deficient young man living with him who got scared and asked for help. I doubt the young man is his "stepson." He's probably a throwaway child from one of the hookers the old man screws when he gets a chance. He had a place to stay and let the kid move in with him.

When the media realized this man is a harmless, aimless, socially marginal goober, they backed away because it's a rather pathetic, tawdry story. It really is kind of Steinbeckian. The old guy saw a chance to take off on a binge for some pussy and hard liquor and he took it. The young man didn't realize the old guy had certain predilections and that he didn't give a fuck whether or not he was inconveniencing anyone else.

I remember watching a Frontline episode on coroners in America (an excellent episode on the PBS app if you haven't seen it). It started out with the body of a man found in a body of water. If he'd been found a few yards downstream, his body would have been retrieved in another county with a morgue, a coroner who was a dr, etc. As it was, the body was in a county without those things and was taken to a shed with a lightbulb in it, examined and quickly buried (or cremated, I can't remember) because there was no refrigeration available. It turned out to be the father of basketball player Michael Jordan. The thing is, Jordan's father used to take off for weeks at a time and go traveling around. This time, the family said he'd taken off for a funeral. They weren't alarmed when he didn't return home immediately. Because there are lots of guys like this. They take off. They get itchy feet. They go on a bender, they go after a woman. They eventually turn up (unless they get murdered because they do dumb things like pull off onto the side of the road to sleep off a bender, like Jordan's father did).

I think the media isn't covering this because everyone knows that the guy just took off on a tear and they don't want to embarrass the poor stepson who is probably fragile. They don't want to put that poor soul on tv and have him look like a jackass. "Are you glad your somewhat stepfather was found in a Salvation Army center hundreds of miles away from home? Are you happy to hear he just decided on the spur of the moment to go see an old lady love of his far away from the stadium where he left you without any warning?"

Come on.....

I'm curious about the witness who saw Kitterman (inside the stadium) during the third quarter -- what the hell was the guy doing that he was that memorable?

There was what, 10k people at the game? And yet someone can remember seeing this one particular, but totally boring and non-descript, guy?

Oh, also, the fact that they were worried he could be "lost" or "trapped" inside the stadium all those days proves that Kitterman is either an alkie or a retard.

Who is the pretentious asshole here who keeps calling the guy "marginal"? You sound like a cunt.

[quote] Who is the pretentious asshole here who keeps calling the guy "marginal"? You sound like a cunt.

I know, right? That's like a 3 syllable word. And to use it more than once? That's so cunt. Who does that? A cunt.

r299, it's about snobbism and looking down on people, not three syllable words

R275: The dad died. We are all very sad.

I know! It's snobby to say marginal instead of retarded. The guy is retarded. He works on a farm and runs away from a football game his boss is nice enough to take him to. "Would you like to go to the football game with us?" Does he say, "For a little bit. But I'm gonna leave when I get bored, so don't come looking for me. Just go home because I expect to be away for a few days."

No. He just fucking takes off without a word. He's retarded, not "marginal." He's a fucking rude retard, too.

I hate snobby, class conscious, condescending cunts!

poor people are really entertaining.

The people who are still obsessing over this non-story about a MARGINAL loser, are petty types who are simply pissed that the story didn't end with a gory and/or salacious denouement that they could "ooh and ah" over.

Sorry, the guy wasn't found dead, tortured, dismembered, whatever.

He's just a nobody who wandered off.

Sorry, guys. Better luck next time.

LOL at the moronic "marginal" troll. What a loser!

***‘Breakdown’ led to missing Broncos fan’s 112-mile trek***

The family of formerly missing Broncos fan Paul Kitterman are trying to understand the reasoning behind his disappearance.

Kitterman’s hometown paper, The Grand Gazette, posted the latest update from the family.

“They report that Paul is exhausted and in a fragile state, both physically and mentally,” the update reads.

“At this time, even family and friends do not have the whole story. They are respecting Paul’s wishes for personal space and time to process the events of the past five days.”

The family told NBC in Denver they believe he had some sort of breakdown and he will be seeking medical help, but did not offer any more details.

The report added he bought new clothes to avoid detection.

“People that didn’t know Paul are worried about Paul because it’s just so abnormal and even though we found him and he’s alive and everything … it’s still extremely uncharacteristic of Paul,” said Tia Bakki, a friend who got Kitterman tickets to the game and was also in attendance.

Kitterman vanished from last Thursday’s Broncos-Chargers game in Denver, and the alarmed family used the public to help find him. Kitterman was eventually seen outside a K-Mart in Pueblo, 112 miles south of Sports Authority Field.

Police said Kitterman slept in wooded areas, walking and hitchhiking on the four-day trip.

“He (Kitterman) made comments that he ditched his Broncos hat because he didn’t want to be recognized,” Sgt. Eric Gonzalez told NBC.

[quote] I hate snobby, class conscious, condescending cunts!

Well, the lower class trash of society usually feel this way.

Of course the family is going to say "we think he had a nervous breakdown" and "we are seeking medical help for him because this is just not like him". What else would you expect them to say? "Paul used us to transport him to Denver, then hitched his way to Pueblo to indulge himself with more booze and to try to get some ass. He left without telling us so we had no idea where he was... we contacted law enforcement who then wasted valuable time and resources helping us track him down. Paul's disappearance made headlines around the country. When Paul was found, safe and coherent, in brand new clean clothes, he told the police the truth...that he wanted to get away. He also made several statements indicating behavior that he did in order to avoid recognition. So to sum it up, we made asses of ourselves and put a man who just wanted to be left alone under a national microscope and now he is probably annoyed and embarrassed at having to explain himself to the entire country. We look like idiots now. So to avoid looking even more idiotic, we are going to deflect the blame on him, making it appear that he is mentally deficient or just plain crazy."

If this family is smart they will just shut up and let the whole situation fade away.

I thought the overwhelming DL consensus was that he's marginal? Now we're back to him being hungry for pussy and beer and ostensibly insane?

yes R309

R308 Okay, but it is still this guy's fault. If he just wanted to leave his family, this wasn't the way to do that. He probably is mentally ill beyond being mentally deficient.

[quote]We look like idiots now. So to avoid looking even more idiotic, we are going to deflect the blame on him, making it appear that he is mentally deficient or just plain crazy."

WTF? The guy took off leaving his family and friends distraught. If he isn't mentally unstable, the very least you have to admit is that he's a selfish asshole. I don't feel the least bit "embarrassed" or "idiotic" for wondering what happened to this lunatic. What a strange thing to say and a stupid theory about the public's curiosity surrounding a bizarre event.

Smash a table over his back.

The marginal troll sounds.. marginal.

I half suspect dementia.

[You do realize that this is a troll, right? It does not believe what it posts. It just craves attention. You might want to stop talking to it.]

I love R301.

Yeah, R301 was good.

R317 and R318 are two of the reasons DL has been going downhill. The fact they think R301 is witty? Really? Now wonder WW is so fucked up.

[quote] How do you half suspect something?

You're unfamiliar with a common idiom?

This faux naif thing is getting absurd.

Nope r319. r301 was a funny oneliner, while you're whining about two people being amused by a oneliner. The problem seems to be that stick up your ass.

You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If he had ended being found a victim of foul play, people would say, "well, why didn't the family call the police!? A guy just goes missing and you do nothing?" And when they DO, do something, "why couldn't you just let him disappear in peace?!" Smart-assed Monday Morning Quarterbacks that have something to say regardless of the actions taken.

[quote] You're unfamiliar with a common idiom?

He's obviously marginally literate.

Sucks when people do this to other people. Kind of hope it is mental issues.

How the fuck hard is it for an adult to say " I'm done here. Nothing will change my mind. See ya."

Might understand if there was real physical dNger involved. But it seems so cruel to not let anyone know and to "start a new life"

Missing people sleeve me out. ....visions of the "Hostel" movies always pop into my mind.

[quote] "The stepson and him were fucking. Mark my words. —Anonymous"

We have marked your words and find them wanting, R121.

[QUOTE] Missing people sleeve me out. ....visions of the "Hostel" movies always pop into my mind.

I assume that was supposed to be "skeeve me out"? Is that a general slang expression, or strictly Italian-American patois?