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Everything you wanted to know about Pee Wee Herman but were afraid to ask.

Someone from another thread suggested we start a thread about Pee Wee Herman and his bad boy ways. I don't really know much about it, but perhaps Datalounge does.

Mecka-lecka-hi...

by Anonymousreply 83June 27, 2021 6:26 PM

I know this may sound like a stupid question butis Pee Wee straight or gay? I never did find out what movie he was beating it to, straight porn or gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 1October 11, 2014 5:57 PM

R1, you're not alone. I have no clue about his sexuality either or the porn he was watching.

by Anonymousreply 2October 11, 2014 6:08 PM

I would think Pee-wee Herman would be unpopular with 75% of DataLoungers, since he starred in a movie that denied the existence of a basement.

by Anonymousreply 3October 11, 2014 6:17 PM

Pee Wee Herman: asexual

Paul Reubens: gay

by Anonymousreply 4October 11, 2014 7:30 PM

I love peewee

by Anonymousreply 5October 11, 2014 7:33 PM

Didn't he get charged for possessing child porn?

by Anonymousreply 6October 11, 2014 7:33 PM

I remember being shocked that is was straight porn that he was caught watching, though I believe he is gay.

by Anonymousreply 7October 11, 2014 7:35 PM

It was called Nurse Nancy. Jeffrey Jones got caught with kiddie porn, I know that for sure. That was surprising.

by Anonymousreply 8October 11, 2014 7:36 PM

I'm friends with Nicole Panter who was in the Groundlings with him and did the early HBO show. Her ex also did the designs of the characters and Playhouse.

She said he was dark and complicated. Not at all the character he portrayed.

by Anonymousreply 9October 11, 2014 7:40 PM

I am gay and often prefer straight porn because of the gym rat shave pumped look in gay porn, they all look alike

by Anonymousreply 10October 11, 2014 7:42 PM

He wasn't arrested for masturbating in the theater. That was post-arrest spin. The original charge was the he exposed himself to an undercover cop while cruising him in that theater.

by Anonymousreply 11October 11, 2014 7:45 PM

Tell me more, R11.

by Anonymousreply 12October 11, 2014 8:29 PM

He had a collection of vintage Victorian porn, some of which included children, hence the child porn talk. I think it was confiscated and no charges brought? I could be wrong, it's been awhile since I heard this.

by Anonymousreply 13October 11, 2014 8:34 PM

Read about Jeffrey Jones too, R8. He was in one of my favourite films, Valmont.

by Anonymousreply 14October 11, 2014 8:45 PM

Really, R11? Tell the story.

by Anonymousreply 15October 11, 2014 8:46 PM

I had not heaerd that R11, but it's easier to believe than he was arrest for fapping in the theare

by Anonymousreply 16October 11, 2014 8:48 PM

I heard the kiddie porn charge got reduced to an obscenity charge.

by Anonymousreply 17October 11, 2014 8:54 PM

I remember Pee Wee from the VHS cassettes of The Groundlings that made the rounds in the skeevy and righteous video stores that hit the scene in the mid '80s and thrived into the late '90's, whereupon the internet took over. These video stores specialized in "alternative", sleaze, camp, Jodorowsky, classics, Faces of Death, Crispin Glover, Abel Ferrara and Kenneth Anger, among others. Extreme porn was available in another room, usually.

I always though the Pee Wee character was supposed to be a creepy pedophile hosting a kids' TV show. When the movie and tv show blew open the success of the character, he morphed into a spirited man-child.

I don't see current generations encouraging their children to watch Pee Wee.

by Anonymousreply 18October 11, 2014 8:54 PM

No idea where one could find any of this information.

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by Anonymousreply 19October 11, 2014 8:55 PM

In 1971 he was arrested for loitering and prowling near an adult theater

In 1983 he was arrested for possession of marijuana

In 1991 arrested for masturbating during a movie at an adult theatre

2002 with possession of obscene material improperly depicting a child under the age of 18 in sexual conduct

The police, with a search warrant, acting on a tip from a witness in the pornography case against actor Jeffrey Jones, searched his house finding among over 70,000 items of kitsch memorabilia, two grainy videotapes and dozens of photographs that the city attorney's office characterized as a collection of child pornography.

Child pornography charges were dropped in exchange for Reubens' guilty plea to a lesser charge

Reubens later stated that he was a collector of erotica, including films, muscle magazines and a sizable collection of mostly homosexual vintage erotica, such as photographic studies of teen nudes

by Anonymousreply 20October 13, 2014 6:59 AM

[You do realize that this is a troll, right? It does not believe what it posts. It just craves attention. You might want to stop talking to it.]

by Anonymousreply 21October 13, 2014 7:08 AM

[quote]This may sound outlandish to some of you, but I believe there are rumors that both Tim Burton and Johnny Depp are satanists.

It's time to get back on your meds, hon.

by Anonymousreply 22October 13, 2014 7:49 AM

I'm still waiting for the Pee Wee's Playhouse movie that was announced all the way back in 2009. WAITING!!!

by Anonymousreply 23October 13, 2014 8:27 AM

He was in last week's episode of Blacklist wearing a black toupee. His character was dark and creepy, and he played it well. I hope it's a reoccurring character.

by Anonymousreply 24October 13, 2014 4:36 PM

[quote]This may sound outlandish to some of you, but I believe there are rumors that both Tim Burton and Johnny Depp are satanists.

Even I don't believe that, despite having a damn good reason to.

by Anonymousreply 25October 13, 2014 4:47 PM

PEE WEE was caught playing with his WEE WEE when he was supposed tone watching a movie.

by Anonymousreply 26October 13, 2014 4:49 PM

Pee Wee Herman was originally a pervy teenage boy character who would put mirrors on his shoes to look up girls skirts and babysit the neighbourhood little girls.

When the character started becoming popular he changed into the man-child we all know.

Rumour has it Reubens purposely masturbated and exposed himself to try and kill the popularity of Pee Wee Herman because it was taking over every aspect of his life.

Whereas before people wanted to interview Paul Reubens, they later were only interested in Reubens playing Pee Wee.

by Anonymousreply 27October 13, 2014 4:49 PM

[quote]Whereas before people wanted to interview Paul Reubens, they later were only interested in Reubens playing Pee Wee.

I watched a recent interview with Paul Reubens where he said it was a conscious decision to do all of his interviews at the time as Pee-Wee. He considered it performance art, and in a way wanted people to think Pee-Wee was a real person who lived that way 24/7. He said he blames himself for the jarring juxtaposition that occurred when his mugshot was released because the public had never seen him as Paul Reubens before.

by Anonymousreply 28October 13, 2014 4:56 PM

And the link between Rubens and Depp is that cocaine movie.

by Anonymousreply 29October 13, 2014 5:07 PM

[quote]Reubens later stated that he was a collector of erotica, including films, muscle magazines and a sizable collection of mostly homosexual vintage erotica, such as photographic studies of teen nudes

He and John Paragon used to decorate their mirror space in the dressing room at the Groundlings with Steve Reeves-vintage campy photos of bodybuilders.

by Anonymousreply 30October 13, 2014 5:47 PM

To those looking for satanic gossip about those mentioned previously in this thread, a field trip to the Lipstick Alley board might be productive.

by Anonymousreply 31October 13, 2014 9:45 PM

[You do realize that this is a troll, right? It does not believe what it posts. It just craves attention. You might want to stop talking to it.]

by Anonymousreply 32October 13, 2014 10:00 PM

[quote]I watched a recent interview with Paul Reubens where he said it was a conscious decision to do all of his interviews at the time as Pee-Wee.

That's interesting R28 because in a printed interview in the late 1990s he was really bitter about having to be Pee Wee everywhere he went. I guess he's changed his mind over the years.

by Anonymousreply 33October 13, 2014 10:04 PM

Yep…here's the interview:

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by Anonymousreply 34October 13, 2014 10:10 PM

[quote]She said he was dark and complicated. Not at all the character he portrayed.

Which tends to be the case with countless comedians.

by Anonymousreply 35October 13, 2014 10:12 PM

Natasha Lyonne was one of the original children on Pee Wee's Playhouse. And we all know what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 36October 13, 2014 10:43 PM

LOVE the Pee Wee Herman dancers in Katy Perry's 'This Is How We Do' video

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by Anonymousreply 37October 13, 2014 10:54 PM

Thanks for posting that r27 I thought that I had remembered something like that about the origins of the Pee Wee character but then thought I was remembering wrong because the Pee Wee that became popular was so different

by Anonymousreply 38October 14, 2014 5:16 AM

Why did John Paragon never do better? He was very funny and he was extremely hot.

by Anonymousreply 39October 14, 2014 5:27 AM

I've always been curious about Paul Reubens and the Peewee Persona, just because he's so strange. Peewee Herman was a lot funnier and more interesting in the live shows, before he became a sanitised kids tv character. I think you can still find the filmed version of the early live shows.

The collection he had of vintage erotica were mostly big piles of bodybuilding emphemera, but apparently there were a few images of underaged kids in there (underage meaning teenage, not children). The charges were lessened when it became apparent that the collection was vast and the underage pics were so few that they probably were in there when he was buying the mags in bulk lots.

He has never addressed his sexuality - the theatre he was arrested at was a straight movie, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's straight. Also, he "dated" Debi Mazar, which really could mean either. He's given interviews where he talks about wanting to meet the right person, but he is always very guarded and never specifies it to be a woman. Personally., I think he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 40October 15, 2014 6:32 AM

Get a load of Nancy Fucking Drew at R40.

Oh, maybe he's gay.

MAYBE?

by Anonymousreply 41October 15, 2014 8:12 AM

[quote]Why did John Paragon never do better? He was very funny and he was extremely hot.

I had him in [italic]The Frog Prince[/italic], you didn't. Jealous, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 42October 15, 2014 1:54 PM

[quote]I've heard a lot of things from different people over the years and have slowly changed into believing that satanism is a big thing in places of power.

Many types of mental illness unfold slowly.

by Anonymousreply 43October 15, 2014 2:12 PM

r40 is my hero.

by Anonymousreply 44October 15, 2014 2:25 PM

John Paragon is the white guy in the couple on Seinfeld who steal Elaine's armoire and assault Kramer for not wearing a ribbon at an AIDS march.

Did anybody see his Broadway show? Was it good?

It seems like he wanted to kill Pee Wee but no one was interested in Paul Reubens so he had to go back to Pee Wee to make a living.

by Anonymousreply 45October 15, 2014 2:39 PM

I meant r41. Merde!

by Anonymousreply 46October 15, 2014 2:47 PM

John Paragon, the original Jambi, is his ex.

Reubens is gay.

by Anonymousreply 47October 15, 2014 2:50 PM

[quote]Why did John Paragon never do better? He was very funny and he was extremely hot.

John had severe acne scarring when he was younger and was always self-conscious about it. Moody guy, as opposed to Paul, who was generally just cold.

John could carry off a regular guy persona on TV and in film, but in person he could be very Paul Lynde-ish. Very funny man, but his real talent was improv, and a lot of insanely funny improv guys never make it big in TV or film beyond a guest role here and there.

by Anonymousreply 48October 16, 2014 2:27 AM

This

he "dated" Debi Mazar

?

by Anonymousreply 49October 16, 2014 2:41 AM

I loved John Paragon as the huffy adult-bookstore clerk in "Eating Raoul."

by Anonymousreply 50October 16, 2014 2:47 AM

Debi Mazar.

He said they were engaged.

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by Anonymousreply 51October 16, 2014 2:49 AM

When Rubens does autograph shows, he signs, Your Friend Pee Wee. When he was on Broadway, he didn't sign at the stage door, he talked to the crowd for a couple of minutes with a bull horn.

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by Anonymousreply 52October 16, 2014 2:56 AM

If it's true, then Debi definitely traded up with her Italian hubby.

by Anonymousreply 53October 16, 2014 3:03 AM

[You do realize that this is a troll, right? It does not believe what it posts. It just craves attention. You might want to stop talking to it.]

by Anonymousreply 54October 16, 2014 3:08 AM

he's gay. I had an ex who hooked up with him. Said he was nice but very serious.

by Anonymousreply 55October 16, 2014 3:14 AM

Any more stories of people who have hooked up with him? I would love to hear them.

by Anonymousreply 56October 16, 2014 3:17 AM

Is John paragon the son of Mimi Paragon?

by Anonymousreply 57October 16, 2014 3:32 AM

A friend of mine taught Paul R. In a summer drama program. He said there was nothing PeeWee about him! I somehow never had the courage to ask how he knew (and maybe didn't want to know) and said friend is now dead (gay Christian Scientist felled by a second major heart attack--you can't invent this stuff)

by Anonymousreply 58October 16, 2014 3:35 AM

The original story about Reubens exposing himself to the undercover police officer was reported briefly, then quickly changed. It has always amazed me how celebrities can get the media to alter news reports (Scott Caan, Mcbongo, etc).

by Anonymousreply 59October 19, 2014 1:33 AM

New interview:

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by Anonymousreply 60October 21, 2014 3:33 AM

yeah i want to know more about him..there's been many stories from peopl who know him say he's eitehr dark and serious? even paul himself once said in an interview talking about debi mazar that he would act "dark and funky" and she would basically have to give him a pep talk..

i truly believe he and mazar never actually dated..maybe were just good freinds but he used mazar to sort of clear his image at the time..

by Anonymousreply 61March 8, 2015 5:44 AM

was he a pedophile? I have always thought that about Mr. Rogers as well.

by Anonymousreply 62March 8, 2015 8:25 AM

It was rumored that Peewee is horse-hung.

Verificatia?

by Anonymousreply 63March 8, 2015 9:43 AM

R55 i'd love to hear more about what your ex said about paul..how long were they together? was it a quick fling?

by Anonymousreply 64June 7, 2016 1:59 AM

[quote]The police, with a search warrant, acting on a tip from a witness in the pornography case against actor Jeffrey Jones, searched his house finding among over 70,000 items of kitsch memorabilia, two grainy videotapes and dozens of photographs that the city attorney's office characterized as a collection of child pornography.

Weird...did these 2 know each other or else why would Paul's name have come up? Someone who sold porn to both of them?

by Anonymousreply 65June 7, 2016 2:11 AM

Horse hung? His Pee Wee pants were so tight, you'd see at least [italic]something[/italic] down there if he were. Unless he does really major league tucking.

by Anonymousreply 66June 7, 2016 2:12 AM

I loved him on Reno 911.

by Anonymousreply 67June 7, 2016 2:19 AM

I remember being astonished that anyone could be arrested for jacking off at an adult movie theater. I thought it was assumed that most of the patrons were doing that and that those who weren't were cool with it.

by Anonymousreply 68June 7, 2016 2:30 AM

According to the county sheriff’s office, three detectives went to the XXX South Trail Cinema to watch the audience that was watching a triple bill of Catalina Five-O Tiger Shark, Nurse Nancy, and Turn Up the Heat.

After the sting operation had hauled in three men on charges of violating Florida State Statute 800.03, Exposure of Sexual Organs, Det. William Walters allegedly saw a man ”masterbate” — that’s how the rap sheet spells it — in the darkened theater at 8:25 p.m. and again at 8:35.

Placed under arrest upon leaving the theater, the alleged offender quietly told the detectives his famous pseudonym and, according to the police, made a novel, Pee-wee-esque attempt at a buy-off: He offered to perform a children’s benefit for the sheriff’s office if the charges were dropped. (A department spokesman said that ”the deputies did not feel at that time that they had enough probable cause” to charge Reubens with attempted bribery.)

A local reporter recognized Reubens’ name on the arrest sheet the next day, and within hours the scandal machinery was roaring at full throttle.

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I love Pee Wee but Rubens can be a very compelling serious actor as well. Of all people it was Courtney Cox who game him perhaps his brst serious role on her show "Dirt" with Rubens as her former mentor tabloid reporter.

by Anonymousreply 69June 7, 2016 3:29 AM

R66 there's a short movie reubens did back in 1980 I think called pray TV waer he is wearing some very tight spandex yoga pants..ive only seen snap shots of the scene but he is sure packing down there!

by Anonymousreply 70June 19, 2016 1:07 AM

We have seen a horse-hung wearing briefs under tight jeans and nothing was visible.

nothing

by Anonymousreply 71June 19, 2016 7:47 AM

His interviews were performance art. I remember watching David Letterman trying to get Reubens off his Pee Wee persona. And failing. A memorable guest appearance. Letterman simply gave up and started laughing at his abject failure.

PeeWee's rehabilitative role, after his fapping scandal, as Murphy Browns assistant is another fav.

by Anonymousreply 72June 19, 2016 9:43 AM

Is it true that he was Luther Vandross' lover in the 80s?

by Anonymousreply 73June 19, 2016 9:50 AM

His classic late 80's Christmas Special was first broadcast on prime-time network television and guest starred gay faves Grace Jones, Cher, The DelRubio Triplets and USMC Men's Choir, among others.

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by Anonymousreply 74June 19, 2016 10:16 AM

Pee Wee was definitely at the porn theater to cruise. It was 1991, so if he had just wanted to watch porn, VCRs and porn tapes were easy enough to get.

by Anonymousreply 75June 19, 2016 2:17 PM

Is that really the USMC Men's Choir? I had read that Reubens had contacted the Marines, asking if the Choir could appear, but was turned down so the show had to use another singing group who was dressed in Marine drag.

by Anonymousreply 76June 19, 2016 2:35 PM

My closest straight friend from the late 70s to mid 80s was a guy who really wanted to be seen as a pothead because he thought it was cool. (Sigh.) He would drag me to Cheech and Chong movies and that's where I first saw the pee wee character, although it wasn't fully developed yet. It was maybe 1980 or 81 and he played a prissy girlie man who was C&C's adversary.

I don't think he was wearing the trademark outfit yet, but the wacked-out character was the only thing that made an impression on me in the otherwise dreadful film.

by Anonymousreply 77June 19, 2016 3:21 PM

Someone in this thread said that the original story was that he exposed himself to a cop in the theater. That's what I remember hearing as well -was there a coverup or was the original report just a mistake?

by Anonymousreply 78March 2, 2019 7:01 AM

I'm pretty sure this was the first celebrity scandal I remember being keenly aware of.

by Anonymousreply 79April 23, 2020 3:20 AM

I had the VHS tape of Pee Wee's Big Adventure in the '80s, I could recite the dialogue. He made a sequel for Netflix a few years ago, but nobody cared anymore. What was cute when he was in his 30s looks a little creepy in his late 60s.

by Anonymousreply 80April 23, 2020 4:11 AM

I think he's a gay-leaning bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 81June 27, 2021 6:14 PM

He should have slapped the cop!

by Anonymousreply 82June 27, 2021 6:24 PM

r74, how dare you not give Charo first billing?

Charo, born in 1951 (hehehehe), was the biggest name on that special.

by Anonymousreply 83June 27, 2021 6:26 PM
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