What is the scariest fan base you've encountered?

Power Rangers fans will make your life a living hell if you tell them you don't like that show.

Christians...the way they go on and on about that character....

Definitely the Nuke fans.

Hands down, forever.

[quote]Christians...the way they go on and on about that character....

I know. Muslims are the same way with that fellow Cassius Clay renamed himself after.

Karl Lagerfeld's ungloved hands.

TransTroll's. There's one who's just losing its shit right now in the thread about catcalls. It uses TT's writing style, but it fails to quote like TT. So I figure it's just a fan.

Brent Spiner superfan Anne Droidz.

She moved to an apartment with a balcony that overlooked his house, and was known to take "Brent Breaks" where she would go out in her balcony and stare down at his home.

And that's the tip of the iceberg.

Right wing and "Christian" right wing who are as anti Crist as anyone can get.

Beyonce stans!

Transphobic rednecks who never finished high school like r6

Madonna fans. These people think she invented the sex-positive side of women's lib and that she is totally original.

Also, Michael Jackson fans are scary. They sent death threats to Michael's dermatologist for saying that Michael was gay.

R10 See what I mean?

Angelina Jolie fans. Batshit crazy, aggressive, paranoid, delusional, and stupid. And sexually confused, in some cases.

I used to troll them, but not for long. Sure, driving them into a frothing rage was fun for a little while, but they were so pathetic it got old fast.

Matt Bomer fans

I take it back. I just remembered the existence of the "Juggalos".

Brangeloonies are scary cray cray.

Beyawnzze and JLaw fans are pretty crazy too.

Here's an odd one: Greek Eurovision fans. Fucking demented lot.

Apple/Mac/iPhone/iPad fans.

What about hardcore conspiracy fanatics or followers of professional conspiracy-theorists/New Age-gurus (like Alex Jones or David Wilcock)? They are the brangaloonies of the political spectrum.

Everyone who dares to even slightly disagree with them is immediately branded a 'paid shill' or worse.

The Trevor Blumas troll. Didn't he ultimately commit suicide or something?

Matt Bomer's LGBT fantard lead by Simon Halls.

The whole Janbot-Jabba thing here on Datalounge is the most disturbing delusional thing I've ever witnessed, and I think I speak for a lot of people here.

Michael Jackson's fans by far.

R23, Jabba the Hutt?

Fans of the TeaParty.

The Hobbit fan base has a faction that is very scary. Their obsession with stalking certain gay actors in the film goes beyond anything I've seen elsewhere. Some of it is probably illegal, like hacking Facebooks and Instagrams of their friends and family.

But I have to say the most insane is the Robsten Unbrokens.

Joan River´s doctor.

Re: R23's comment -

Yes, it's true - the anti-Janet troll is really demented.

R23 what is Janbot-Jabba?

Lee Pace fans, comic book movie fans, Sherlock/Watson shippers

I like Sons of Anarchy, but some fans are annoying as hell and part of that is because of how Kurt Sutter acts on social media. Sutter can be asshole at times. A few years back, he was pissed that SOA wasn't getting nominated for Emmys and he trashed Glee for getting Emmy nods instead of SOA. Now, Glee is show that became awful over time, but Sutter and his devout followers ignored the fact that Glee was in the comedy category. Sutter also hated on Mad Men. Sutter has said other shitty things which his fans cheer on.

R30 - Janbot is a long time Janet Jackson fan who posts here.

"Jabba" is the anti-Janet troll's attempt at labeling another Janet fan who posts here, but I suspect R23 IS the anti-Janet troll, because only he uses that term, and only he thinks it's funny.

Not everyone likes Janet, obviously, but this guy is psychotic about posting shit about her.

Truly Janbot should be committed, n'est-ce pas?

Who writes love letters to a 25 year old album? Kind of says it all.

We have posters who have created over a hundred threads about a 25+ year old sitcom (Golden Girls), and a plethora of threads about Lucille Ball, Mame, et al - all old shit.

Janbot's joy in his Janet fandom seems rather innocuous in comparison.

Any fan of a soap opera couple.

The Golden Girls, et al threads are hilarious. What distinguishes that campiness from the Janbot threads is Janbot's relentless pursuit of converts to the Janet Jackson alter of worship. Endless irrelevant factoids about how fast Janet Jackson filled up a stadium in Japan THIRTY YEARS AGO and all of that other nonsense.

Janbot does not exhibit innocuous fandom, as you suggest. Janbot presents a myriad, dangerous swirl of psychosis and should be banned from DataLounge.

U2's fans after Joshua Tree -- they became more like wounded disciples.

Early Mac users, although some of that has continued to this day. But we'd never seen anything like it when it first started, and it was creepy.

I can attest to R18. I was in Greece in 2005 when they won Eurovision. Everyone watched from all the bars and eventually I heard all this screaming and yelling. I thought they won a soccer match or something. People were acting all crazy and practically had a parade in the streets. I was shocked to find out that it was all over a songwriting contest.

Grandmadonna fans, to be sure.

[quote]The Hobbit fan base has a faction that is very scary. Their obsession with stalking certain gay actors in the film goes beyond anything I've seen elsewhere. Some of it is probably illegal, like hacking Facebooks and Instagrams of their friends and family.

They're mostly homophobic, sexless housewives who don't want to admit that they're homophobes so they become bullies who just can't let gay men live in peace.

Trans anything. You are fans of surgery and cosplay - we get it. Now if you could just fuck off, we're trying to get our civil rights here.

R41 they also believe that gay men are just women with penises

Well are they not?

Michael Jackson's fans. OMG, so retarded. Look, Paris is the spitting image of Michael, how dare you even question that he's Paris biological father?

Tig Notaro. For sure.

I had always thought the Brangeloonies were the worst, and they probably are over the long run.

Lately it's been "She who must not be named" (D@vida R0chelle) and her meltdown over George Clooney's wedding.

R43 And gay men can't possibly just be friends. Any gay man that appears in Instagram photos with another gay more than 3 times is totes fucking him.

Remember the Clay Aiken fans. Oy; they were terrible.

I find the Barbara Streisand fans also a little terrifying.

I think some, if not many, of the Brangeloonies are actually Jolie herself. She is batshit crazy.

We should rephrase this topic: Is there any fanbase that is normal?

They are harmless, but I have to say that I really, really hate the Hiddlestoners and the Cumberbitches. I used to read their fansites just for a laugh, but they are the stanniest stans that ever stanned. They call these 30-something prats that they worship, "My baby" and my "my darling." Don't go on to the stan sites after eating because you will seriously want to vomit.

R43 They also think IMDB and Tumblr is the place to show their soap-opera-frau "support" for LGBT movement. They think by invading gay men's privacy is the best way to be gay-friendly.

The Monty Python Trolls. They are batshit crazy.

Obama's. Hands down. You can't hint at criticism without being called a racist.

You can't get more delusional, insane, aggressive, entitled, bullying and down right nasty than the fans that think the angel Castiel and the character Dean in the show Supernatural are in love.

Bieber fans

Angelina Jolie fans

Beyonce fans

Well, the hard-core Twihards who believe Kristen Stewart is married to Pattinson and gave birth to his child known as 'Sweetpea' take some beating. Though apparently the 'Snape Wives' who would have digital cat fights over who was 'married' to the Harry Potter character are supposed to be worthy runners up.

Jimmy Fallon has developed quite the looney fan base full of soccer mom fraus who go apeshit when you tell the truth about Fallon being a grossly overrated hack

Back when I used to watch WWE and read up about it on message boards, I remember the fans of Matt and Jeff Hardy to be some of the craziest people I have ever encountered on the Internet. The worse part was that the two interacted with them and even met up with them at various places. Their fans would post photos of how they hung out with Matt or Jeff over the weekend. It was so bizarre,

doesn't really count as a fan base but those pro-ALS people would troll you hard because you had the nerve to say dumping a bucket of water of your head was stupid when all you had to do was just donate

I think extreme fans of anything are probably exhibiting mental illness of varying degrees, but the people who are scary in the sense that they're a real threat are the anti vaccine crowd.

the I-zombies

We may be repulsed by the Twitards or the Jolie fantatics or downright afraid of the delusional Michael Jackson fans.

But the POLICE are afraid of the "Juggalos", I think they really do win.

Can we leave politics out of the thread for fuck's sake?

The world is full of scary idiots, some of them organized into political parties, we all know that. So can we limit ourselves to fandom bashing here, and do the political bashing on other threads. Pretty please?

Monarchists, or One Direction fans.

No kidding, r64. It's the same thing with super religious people who want to be seen doing good work, supporting charities. They have to have a big announcement with photos or where's the satisfaction in doing it?

Whoever conceived of the IBC was clever - they knew to bet on peoples' narcissism for maximum returns.

[quote] Can we leave politics out of the thread for fuck's sake?

And also the trans/anti-trans stuff. That's not a fanbase, folks.

We're talking about entertainment fandoms.

Sondheimites

Also, to the tard at R54, trolls are not fandoms.

Michael Jackson fans

Joss Whedon's Browncoats

Palin fans

That's true most places, R70, but not DL. Fans of _________ things and _______ people are called "_________ trolls" here.

Britney Spears fans scare me just because they exist.

Yes, R72, but I don't think I've ever seen deranged Monty Python fandoms posting 1000s of pics every day and scanning them for possible gay relationships to write shitty fanfictions about.

Oh God please don't let that exist anywhere

If it exists somewhere in the universe, there is fanfic written about it r74. First result on google search:

I can't bring myself to click on the link, my wrists are bleeding from the deep slashes I just put in them

I think Jolie and Pitt pay certain gossip sites like JJ, daily fail and celebitchy for favorable articles about them. Celebitchy basically blocks all negative comments on all Brangeloonie posts. I am also sure Kartrashian pays them, because they have almost daily articles about what she and her dumb gay lover do, say and wear. At the same time celebitchy never has favourable articles about Anniston, Goop or CH. Handler, because Anniston and Goop were ex lovers of Pitt and Handler made nasty remarks about Jolie.

I am sure that's how most gossip sites work these days. It's a PR effort on manipulating what people should like and dislike.

Strangers With Candy fans used to be extremely aggressive here. Anything less than complete praise would quickly make its way back to the hive, and they'd start swarming the thread in 15 or 20 minutes. I do remember them standing out as particularly obnoxious.

[quote]Janbot does not exhibit innocuous fandom, as you suggest. Janbot presents a myriad, dangerous swirl of psychosis and should be banned from DataLounge.

Poor R79. Her self-destruction is complete. Nothing more need be said.

[quote]Who writes love letters to a 25 year old album?

Journalist Joseph Vogel, for one...

THE NATION THAT JANET JACKSON BUILT

9/15/14

[italic]Twenty five years later, the political message and musical innovation on Rhythm Nation 1814 is more signifiant than ever, though less appreciated than it should be.

The most culturally significant female artist of the 1980s? Janet Jackson.

I realize that’s a big claim for a decade that included such talents as Whitney Houston, Tina Turner, Annie Lennox, Cyndi Lauper, and Madonna. It may seem even more dubious given the fact that Janet really only emerged as a major figure in 1986 with the release of Control—and only released two substantial albums over the course of the decade. Janet didn’t have the vocal prowess of Whitney Houston, or the poetic subtlety of Kate Bush; she didn’t have Annie Lennox’s penchant for the avant-garde or Madonna’s predilection for shock.

But none of these artists achieved the cross-racial impact (particularly on youth culture) of Janet. And none of them had an album like Rhythm Nation 1814.

In his Rolling Stone cover story, journalist David Ritz compared Rhythm Nation 1814, released 25 years ago today, to Marvin Gaye’s landmark 1971 album What’s Going On—a pairing that might seem strange, if not sacrilege. But think about it, and the comparison makes a lot of sense. Both albums are hard-won attempts by black musicians to be taken seriously as songwriters and artists—to communicate something meaningful in the face of great pressure to conform to corporate formulas. Both are concept albums with socially conscious themes addressing poverty, injustice, drug abuse, racism and war. Both blended the sounds, struggles, and voices of the street with cutting-edge studio production. Both fused the personal and the political. And both connected in profound ways with their respective cultural zeitgeists.

Yet while What’s Going On has rightfully been recognized as one of the great albums of the 20th century, Rhythm Nation’s significance has been largely forgotten. At the time, though, it was undeniable: For three solid years (1989-1991), the album ruled the pop universe, the last major multimedia blockbuster of the 1980s. During that time, all seven of its commercial singles soared into the top five of the Billboard Hot 100 (including five songs that reached No. 1), surpassing a seemingly impossible record set by brother Michael’s Thriller (the first album to generate seven Top 10 hits). Janet’s record has yet to be broken.

During its reign, Rhythm Nation shifted more than seven million copies in the U.S., sitting atop the charts for six weeks in 1989 before becoming the bestselling album of 1990. It was the first album in history to produce No. 1 hits in three separate years (1989, 1990, 1991). Meanwhile, its innovative music videos—including the iconic militant imagery and intricate choreography of the title track—were ubiquitous on MTV.

But its impact was far more than commercial. Rhythm Nation was a transformative work that arrived at a transformative moment. Released in 1989—the year of Spike Lee’s Do the Right Thing, protests at Tiananmen Square, and the fall of the Berlin Wall—its sounds, its visuals, its messaging spoke to a generation in transition, at once empowered and restless. The Reagan Era was over. The cultural anxiety about what was next, however, was palpable.[/italic]

Fans of The Land.

Janbot is not a fandon or a fan base, Janbot is a fan.

Janbot does not seem to represent the Janet Jackson fandom as a whole. Not that I know anything about the Janet Jackson fandom, except that they aren't staging mass Janbot invasions.

[italic]The 1980s were a paradoxical decade, particularly for African-Americans. It was an era of both increased possibility and poverty, visibility and invisibility. The revolution of the pop-cultural landscape was undeniable. “Crossover” icons like Janet, Michael, Prince, and Whitney shattered racialized narrowcasting on radio, television and film, while hip hop emerged as the most important musical movement since rock and roll. The Cosby Show changed the color of television, as Spike Lee and the New Black Cinema infiltrated Hollywood. Oprah Winfrey began her reign on daytime television, while Arsenio Hall’s hip late-night talk show drew some of the biggest names in America. By 1989, from Michael Jordan to Eddie Murphy to Tracy Chapman, black popular culture had never been more prominent in the American mainstream. Over the course of the decade, the black middle and upper class more than doubled and integrated into all facets of American life, from college campuses to the media to politics.

But there was a flip side to this narrative—the decay and abandonment of inner cities, the crack epidemic, the AIDS crisis, the huge spike in arrests and incarceration (particularly of young black men), and the widening gap between the haves and have-nots, including within the black community. By the end of the 1980s, nearly 50 percent of black children were living below the poverty line This was the reality early hip hop often spoke to and for. Chuck D. famously described rap as “CNN for black people.”

It was these voices, these struggles, these ongoing divides and injustices that Janet Jackson wanted to represent in Rhythm Nation 1814. “We have so little time to solve these problems,” she told journalist Ritz in a 1990 interview. “I want people to realize the urgency. I want to grab their attention. Music is my way of doing that.” Pop stars, she recognized, had unprecedented multimedia platforms—and she was determined to use hers to do more than simply entertain. “I wanted to reflect, not just react,” she said. “I re-listened to those artists who moved me most when I was younger ... Stevie Wonder, Joni Mitchell, Marvin Gaye. These were people who woke me up to the responsibility of music. They were beautiful singers and writers who felt for others. They understood suffering.”

A sprawling 12-track manifesto (plus interludes), Rhythm Nation acknowledges this suffering and transfuses it into communal power. It was Janet’s second collaboration with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, the talented duo from Minneapolis who miraculously merged elements of three existing musical strands—Prince, Michael, and hip hop—into something entirely fresh and unique. The Flyte Tyme sound featured angular, staccato-synth bottoms, often overlaid with warm, melodic tops. The sound was tailored to Janet’s strengths: her rhythmic sensibility, her gorgeous stacked harmonies, her openness to new sounds, and her wide musical palette. Jam and Lewis also took the time to learn who Janet was, who she wanted to be, and what she wanted to say, and helped translate those sentiments and ideas into lyrics. On Rhythm Nation, Janet wrote or co-wrote seven of the album’s 12 songs, interweaving social and personal themes. Rhythm Nation transfuses communal suffering into communal power.[/italic]

I left a Janet Jackson in the toilet this morning. Took a couple of flushes, but she finally went down.

[italic]Twenty-five years later, those songs still pop with passion and energy. Listen to the signature bass of the title track, based on a sample loop of Sly Stone’s “Thank You (Falletinme Be Mice Elf Again),” and the dense textures of noise that accentuate the song’s urgency. Listen to the funky New Jack riff in “State of the World,” again surrounded by a collage of street sounds—sirens, barking dogs, muffled screams—as Janet narrates vignettes of quiet desperation. Listen to the industrial, Public Enemy-like sermon of “The Knowledge.” The opening suite of songs feel like being inside a sonic factory: machines spurt, hiss, and rattle, as if unaccountably left on; glass breaks, metal stomps and clashes. All this is juxtaposed, of course, with Janet’s intimate, feathery voice, making it even more striking.

Listen to how she sings in a lower register in the first verse of “Love Will Never Do (Without You),” then goes up an octave in the second, before the chorus nearly lifts you off the ground. The album is full of sudden, unexpected shifts, as when the euphoric throb of “Escapade” transitions into the arena-rock stomp of “Black Cat.” On the final track, following the eerie strains of young children singing (“Living in a world that’s filled with hate/ Living in a world we didn’t create”), the album concludes as it began, with a somber bell tolling, perhaps a reference to John Donne’s famous dictum, “Ask not for whom the bell tolls/ It tolls for thee.”

Taken as a complete artistic statement, Rhythm Nation 1814 was a stunning achievement. It married the pleasures of pop with the street energy and edge of hip-hop. It was by turns dark and radiant, calculated and carefree, political and playful, sensual and austere, sermonic and liberating. If Control announced the arrival of a young woman ready to take the reins of her personal life and career, Rhythm Nation revealed a maturing artist, surveying the world around her, determined to wake people out of apathy, cynicism, indifference. Writes Slant’s Eric Henderson, “Rhythm Nation expanded Janet's range in every conceivable direction. She was more credibly feminine, more crucially masculine, more viably adult, more believably childlike. This was, of course, critical to a project in which Janet assumed the role of mouthpiece for a nationless, multicultural utopia.”

“We are a nation with no geographic boundaries,” declared Janet on the album’s introductory “pledge,” “pushing toward a world rid of color lines.” Just seven years earlier, black artists couldn’t get on MTV; FM radio was dominated by album-oriented (white) rock; and the music industry was largely segregated by genre. Now a black woman was at the helm of a new pop-cultural “nation,” preaching liberation through music and dance, while calling on her audience to keep up the struggle. For all the inroads, she insisted, the battle wasn’t over.[/italic]

[italic]Janet Jackson’s ascendance was significant for many reasons, not the least of which was how it coincided with (and spoke to) the rise of black feminism. Until the 1980s, feminism was dominated, by and large, by middle class white women. They defined its terms, its causes, its hierarchies, its representations, and its icons. It wasn’t, of course, that black feminists didn’t exist before the 1980s. From Sojourner Truth to Harriet Tubman to Ida B. Wells to Rosa Parks to Maya Angelou—black women made enormous contributions in the struggle for racial, gender, and class equality. But their contributions were often minimized, and their struggles marginalized. As Barbara Smith writes in her landmark 1977 essay, “Toward a Black Feminist Criticism,” “Black women’s existence, experience, and culture and the brutally complex systems of oppression which shape these are in the ‘real world’ of white and/or male consciousness beneath consideration, invisible, unknown ... It seems overwhelming to break such a massive silence.”

Taken as a complete artistic statement, Rhythm Nation 1814 was a stunning achievement. It married the pleasures of pop with the street energy and edge of hip-hop. It was by turns dark and radiant, calculated and carefree, political and playful, sensual and austere, sermonic and liberating. If Control announced the arrival of a young woman ready to take the reins of her personal life and career, Rhythm Nation revealed a maturing artist, surveying the world around her, determined to wake people out of apathy, cynicism, indifference. Writes Slant’s Eric Henderson, “Rhythm Nation expanded Janet's range in every conceivable direction. She was more credibly feminine, more crucially masculine, more viably adult, more believably childlike. This was, of course, critical to a project in which Janet assumed the role of mouthpiece for a nationless, multicultural utopia.”

“We are a nation with no geographic boundaries,” declared Janet on the album’s introductory “pledge,” “pushing toward a world rid of color lines.” Just seven years earlier, black artists couldn’t get on MTV; FM radio was dominated by album-oriented (white) rock; and the music industry was largely segregated by genre. Now a black woman was at the helm of a new pop-cultural “nation,” preaching liberation through music and dance, while calling on her audience to keep up the struggle. For all the inroads, she insisted, the battle wasn’t over. A black woman was at the helm of a new pop-cultural “nation,” preaching liberation through music and dance.

Janet Jackson’s ascendance was significant for many reasons, not the least of which was how it coincided with (and spoke to) the rise of black feminism. Until the 1980s, feminism was dominated, by and large, by middle class white women. They defined its terms, its causes, its hierarchies, its representations, and its icons. It wasn’t, of course, that black feminists didn’t exist before the 1980s. From Sojourner Truth to Harriet Tubman to Ida B. Wells to Rosa Parks to Maya Angelou—black women made enormous contributions in the struggle for racial, gender, and class equality. But their contributions were often minimized, and their struggles marginalized. As Barbara Smith writes in her landmark 1977 essay, “Toward a Black Feminist Criticism,” “Black women’s existence, experience, and culture and the brutally complex systems of oppression which shape these are in the ‘real world’ of white and/or male consciousness beneath consideration, invisible, unknown ... It seems overwhelming to break such a massive silence.”[/italic]

Poor Jabot. Can you imagine what her cell must look like with all of that Janet Jackson memorabilia strewn about?

[italic]Black feminism, however, did just that in the 1980s. From Michelle Wallace’s bestselling Black Macho and the Myth of Superwoman (described by Ms. magazine as “the book that will shape the 80s”), to Alice Walker’s Pulitzer Prize-winning The Color Purple (which was adapted into a blockbuster film, directed by Steven Spielberg), black women achieved unprecedented breakthroughs over the course of the decade. In 1981, bell hooks released Ain’t I A Woman; in 1984, Audre Lorde published Sister Outsider; 1987 saw the arrival of Toni Morrison’s Beloved, perhaps the most universally canonized novel of the past 30 years. Appropriately capping the decade was Patricia Hill Collins’s Black Feminist Thought (1990), which documented and synthesized the flourishing movement’s central ideas and concerns. The book, Collins wrote, was intended to be “both individual and collective, personal and political, one reflecting the intersection of my unique biography with the larger meaning of my historical times.”

If there was one female artist in the 1980s who captured this spirit in popular music it was Janet Jackson in Rhythm Nation. It was an album that positioned a multifaceted, dynamic black woman as a leader, as someone whose ideas, experiences and emotions mattered. It challenged some of the most deeply entrenched scripts for women in popular culture. It also offered an alternative to the era’s other most powerful female icon: Madonna.

While they were not-so-friendly rivals, in certain ways Janet and Madonna helped trailblaze similar terrain. Both were strong, intelligent, fiercely ambitious artists. Neither expressed any reticence about their desire for mass commercial success. Both were engaged in similar struggles for respect, empowerment and agency in an industry dominated by men and male expectations. Both also faced serious pushback from music critics. In the 1980s, music reviews were frequently filtered through a rock-centric (read: white, male, and heteronormative) lens. “Pop creations” like Janet and Madonna were viewed with suspicion, if not outright contempt. The fact that they didn’t conform to traditional singer-songwriter expectations proved they lacked talent. The fact that they had talented collaborators and producers proved they lacked credibility. The fact that dance and image were important parts of their artistic presentation proved they lacked authenticity. As The New York Times’ Jon Pareles wrote in a 1990 review of Janet’s Rhythm Nation Tour: “Miss Jackson seems content simply to flesh out an image whose every move and utterance are minutely planned. Spontaneity has been ruled out; spectacle reigns, and the concert is as much a dance workout as a showcase for songs.”

In spite of such headwind, however, Janet and Madonna became two of the most influential icons of the late 20th century, each offering distinct versions of feminist liberation and empowerment to a generation of young people coming of age in the 1980s and 1990s. VH1 ranked them No. 1 and No. 2 respectively in their “50 Greatest Women of the Video Era.” On Billboard’s 2013 list of Top Artists in Hot 100 History, Madonna was No. 2 and Janet was No. 7. Over the course of their respective careers, Madonna has 12 No. 1 hits; Janet has 10. Madonna has 38 Top Ten singles; Janet has 27 (placing them both among the top 10 artists of all time). Both, meanwhile, have sold hundreds of millions of albums and influenced American culture in incalculable ways.

Yet in spite of their similar commercial achievements and cultural impact, Janet Jackson remains, by comparison, grossly undervalued by critics and historians. Try to find a book on her career, cultural significance, or creative work, and with the exception of her 2011 autobiography, True You: A Journey To Finding and Loving Yourself, which focuses on her struggles with body image and self-esteem, you will come up empty-handed. Do the same with Madonna, and you will find at least 20 books by major publishers.[/italic]

[italic]The disparities are not simply in the amount of coverage, but in how each artist is interpreted and understood. In print coverage, both in the 1980s and today, Madonna is made the default representative of feminism and of the era (in a 1990 editorial for the New York Times, cultural critic Camille Paglia famously declared her “the future of feminism”). Madonna was perceived as somehow more important and interesting, more clever and cerebral. Her sense of irony and play with sexuality made her more appealing to postmodernists than Janet’s socially conscious sincerity. In 1989, Madonna was named “Artist of the Decade” by Billboard and MTV. Since that time, the appreciation gap has only widened.

In 2008, Madonna was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. In spite of her trailblazing career, Janet has yet to receive the same honor. She has been eligible for six years. Many believe she is still being punished for the 2004 Super Bowl controversy often referred to as “Nipplegate,” the response to which has been described as "one of the worst cases of mass hysteria in America since the Salem witch trials."​ It is hard to believe, given the controversies surrounding just about every artist inducted into the Hall of Fame, that this would be used as a legitimate rationale for her exclusion. But then again, it’s hard to imagine how an artist of Janet’s stature has yet to be nominated.

Long before Beyoncé, Janet carved out a space for the openly feminist, multidimensional pop star. She created a blueprint that hundreds of thousands of artists have followed, from Britney Spears to Ciara to Lady Gaga. Rhythm Nation 1814 was the album that revolutionized her career and the pop landscape. It demonstrated that black women needn’t be second to anyone. But it wasn’t individualistic. Its rallying call was about the collective we. We could be a part of the creative utopia—the rhythm nation—regardless of race, gender, class, sexuality or difference. It made you want to dance and change the world at the same time. Unrealistic, perhaps. But 25 years later, it’s still hard to listen and not want to join the movement.[/italic]

R85, shit DO float, don't it?

It do when it that fat, R91

Oh Great. Janbot invades and destroys yet another thread with her endless HOO-HAW about Janet Jackson.

Janbot, this is why everyone in DataLounge despises you.

R27, you speak of the Ponies, whose tongue should not be uttered here.

R94 was it the tin hats that tipped you off?

[quote]Poor Jabot.

What does John Abbot's company on Y&R have to do with anything?

[quote]I left a Janet Jackson in the toilet this morning. Took a couple of flushes, but she finally went down.

That was Madonna's gnarled and withered hand.

[quote]Janbot, this is why everyone in DataLounge despises you.

I have many fans on DL. I know this fact pains you a great deal, but you're just going to have to suck it up, breathe it in and learn to deal with it.

I would say New Kids On The Block fans (yes, they somehow still have fans). Middle-aged women from 35 all the way to late 40's desperately wanting to escape their sad lives, trying to relive their teenage years by going to concert after concert, spending hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars on tickets and traveling from city to city. And if you read some of their fan boards, you would be creeped out by how delusional they are with the stuff they talk about and the way they behave.

Jesus, R97, you are not even funny (gnarled and withered hand). What is next from you? I am rubber and you are glue jokes? You are pathetically out of gas.

R52, I have to agree with you about Hiddleston and Cumberbatch fans. They scare me. You should see some of the comments over on celebitchy. Robsten fans Fans of paleo/whole30 and crossfit- I don't care that you do it, I don't need to hear about it all the time and how superior those things are to everything else.

[quote]You are pathetically out of gas.

Not hardly, sweetheart. But it's good that you're convincing yourself of such foolishness as you seethe behind your broke-down Pentium 2000.

As for MANdonna's hand, well, if the shoe fits, bitch...

MANdonna? Boy, are you a clever wit.

[quote]MANdonna? Boy, are you a clever wit.

And don't you forget it, girl.

Jennifer Aniston's fans live through her, and are just as pathetic, they act like Brad dumped them too.

The Prancing Ponies were legendarily crazy.

Orlando Bloom's female fans at the height of his fame were the most evil, & viscously possessive. I honestly think he took a step back to be rid of their lunacy.

Matt Bomer & Simon Halls have vicious trolls stalking their every move.

Michael Jackson fans are disgusting.

Lady GaGa's monsters are idiots, and have turned many a would be fan away.

Bieber fan's (what few there) are pathetically stupid.

In Sync fans from the 90's were vicious, and always tried to antagonize fans of The Backstreet Boys, (they both suck, but at least the Backstreet boys had some good looking members).

Gaga's fans are rabid, though there doesn't seem to be many of them by her side anymore.

Holla, Janbot!

YOO_HOO!!! Ohhhh, JAAAANBOOOOOTT!

Gaga fans scare me and I don't get Britney fans because I really don't get her. Ariana fans are getting there.

I never understood why a person's fanbase would deter anyone from liking the artist's work. One has nothing to do with the other.

I guess after a while the fanbase kind of rubs you the wrong way and you associate that with the person.

I guess that's it, but it still seems illogical.

What you don't understand, R109, is that a person is only allowed to like one singer in the entire world. Once you make your choice, you must devote all your attention and admiration to that person, and declare yourself the sworn enemy of those who chose differently. Anything less will cause a great calamity to befall your idol.

Pop music is serious business, and turning on the radio is the most important thing you will do in your life.

Lately... Mr. Clooney's

R109

I think its more like celbs who have crazy fans. Actors, singers who are famous because they have actual talent or are more like artists normaly don't have these crazy followers

[quote]I have many fans on DL.

No, you do not.

[quote]No, you do not.

Seems like your wand is on the fritz, Ms. Truth Fairy. But this is what occurs when one speaks from his ass.

Read over any Janet thread on DL and you will see that the people here who love me are numerous.

"Actors, singers who are famous because they have actual talent or are more like artists normaly don't have these crazy followers"

In general that's true, but not always. Sure, no-talent famewhores like boybanders deliberately attract obsessive nutballers because they spend so much on the product, but sometimes the nutballers go for someone with real talent. The guy who plays "Sherlock" for instance, he's a very good actor and isn't a huge famewhore, but attracts privacy-invading obsessive likes a cow pie attracts flies.

They're probably hurting his career more than they're helping.

R104, they just cannot get over the fact that Angelina happened to land Brad Pitt and left Jen all alone. They want to make Aniston into a poor victim. They forget Aniston actually did the same thing to Brad with Vince Vaughn (there were pics of her sunbathing topless with him) AND to Justin Theroux (he was dating someone else when she decided to date him).

Some of the late unlamented P0nies were scarier than others. Some were old-school nerds, some were blatant fangirls after the hotter guys, but the ones who really scared me were the grown women who fixated on the hobbit actors.

Grown women who fixate on small, child-like, asexual-seeming, tiny little men really scare me.

Carpenters fans.

I adore the Editor.

R117

I think the guy who plays Sherlock is creepy himself, so he attracts creepy fans. Same thing with Tom Hiddleston.

Twilight fans. That's why we have a thread to laugh at them. They are completely delusional psychotics old fraus.

Lana Del Rey fans.

Never go to a music festival where she is performing, or else you will get trampled by 4 foot tall texting teens smoking and wearing flowered headdresses.

"Grown women who fixate on small, child-like, asexual-seeming, tiny little men really scare me."

Just look at the Michael Jackson fans. It's weird how many stupid women were in love with him (even AFTER the plastic surgery)

I agree with R123. Twi-Hards are still living the fantasy even though that franchise is history. They may not be totally scary but they are obsessive and can't seem to move past the fact that it is over and vampires and werewolves are not real. They do provide entertainment so it's all good.

Richard Armitage has some creepy fans, and not just the ones who are obsessed with him and Pace. Like Cavill, he has a whole group fans that go nuts any time someone dare suggest he might be gay.

Michael Jackson fans also sent death threats and hate mail to one of the boys he molested. They're real charmers.

tarantino and lord of the rings. They are all extremely uncreative and untalented people, who latch on to other peoples "art". Those people get HIGHLY OFFENDED when someone says tarantino or lotr sucks. Radiohead fans also are just turds in the punch bowl.

The freaky Jensen Ackles-Jared Padelicki-Supernatural fans own this thread. There’s the faction of them who think the show is tantamount to “The Wire,” or “Murphy Brown,” or “ER” and that Jensen and Jared have been passed over for Emmys simply out of spite. Then there’s the faction who believe Jensen and Jared are secretly lovers. Then, lastly, there’s the faction who believe that even though Jensen is a registered Rethug, he’s the most gay-friendliest fellow in Hollywood, and that all the comments he’s allegedly made to the contrary have been taken out of context.

Sorry, but I think that fanbase is really weird and delusional.

OMG! I just read R116!

Somebody get the hook!

The Jeff Schroder fan on the BB threads is a total homophobic nutball.

A lot of the fans of the Latter Day Supremes are delusional maniacs. None of these women were ever with the group when the group was enjoying Top Twenty Hits yet these fans worship them like each and every one of them is as accomplished as the original three.

Android fans have become scarier than the Apple ones in recent time. They eventually turn on each other too establishing which 'droid is best (Samsung, LG, Sony etc...).

Still though, Apple fanantics are a particularly disturbed and completely oblivious brand of sad.

R100 they make it too easy to troll

Sting fanatics, I can't call them fans who would just go to see a local shows, these loons follow him all over the world. One of them managed to see every show during a particular tour, a tour which took about two years!

They are mostly middle aged trustafarians who try to permeate his inner circle. A few were obese women who were fighting over his attention. If only they knew what he thinks of these loons.

A friend was one of the sound engineers on a few of his tours. He said even he was scared by this level of 'fan'.

The Nuke fans...constantly screaming that America needs to Nuke everybody. Really ignorant, really scary.

The Kate Middleton haters on DL seem really unhinged and into conspiracy theories.

[quote]Janbot, this is why everyone in DataLounge despises you.

And, by extension, Janet Fucking Jackson.

hahaha we've been outed on Celebitchy

[quote]Lilacflowers says: September 17, 2014 at 6:32 pm @Isadora, the guys at datalounge are adamant that Tom is straight.

[quote]M.A.F. says: September 17, 2014 at 7:33 pmtDatalounge people assume EVERYONE is gay.

Oh here's the celebitchy link if anyone feels the need to troll

Who wants a fugly like Tom to play for their team?

I was once stuck in a bus full of drunken, fat women who came from a Coldplay concert. Worst thing ever! No surprise Chris Martin chooses trailer park, casting couch chick JLaw as his PR armpiece. His main fanbase are retarded airheads.

Someone should conduct a study about why British closeted gay men attract so many female fans. There has to be a reason.

Once upon a time I would have said the Barbra fans; but although they get really upset if you criticize her in any way, they're mostly harmless.

The most obnoxious fan on DL is undoubtedly the much loathed Janbot, but since there are no other living Janet Jackson fans other than he, I can't find him much of a threat.

I hate the Fandersons the most because they fetishize privilege and elitism and cliquishness, and they've also made a celebrity of Anderson Cooper's non-entity boyfriend just because he's fucking someone famous. I'd say they're the most hateful.

I have no direct experience, but from what little I know of it, I thought Coldplay's fanbase was eyeliner wearing hipster fems who moan about how terrible the world is.

The brangelina mouth breathing tards are pretty scary grandmas who love her to death. Scary. Mostly black too. IDGI either.

R146

Coldplay fans

R144 on another thread, someone came up with the theory that fan girl "shipping" characters stems from anime (which is written for women by women) and a common thread is to romantically pair characters together.

Why they feel the need to pair male characters together, regardless of whether or not they're actually gay, is beyond me. I'll theorize that it's the same sort of enjoyment they got as children when playing with dolls, and since they think gay men are just women with penises, then it's ok to pair them up.

I have no idea what goes through their frayed, delusional minds, but that's the best explanation I can think of.

Kisses to R145!

[quote]And, by extension, Janet Fucking Jackson.

Idiot. You are lower and less meaningful than the scuff mark on the bottom of one of Janet's Louboutins, and that's the truth.

[quote]The most obnoxious fan on DL is undoubtedly the much loathed Janbot,

Maybe you weren't paying attention when I told the other asshole in here that my fans on the DL are numerous. Maybe if you weren't so fucking stupid (or if you'd actually pay more attention) you would know this.

[quote]but since there are no other living Janet Jackson fans other than he, I can't find him much of a threat.

If I were as dumb as you, I'd go live in a cave somewhere far, far away.

Janbot, the biggest problem of the seriously deluded is their (i.e. your) misapprehension that just asserting something makes it true.

[quote]If I were as dumb as you, I'd go live in a cave somewhere far, far away.

If only you'd do that anyway.

Queen Janet leaving a NYC book signing

[quote]Janbot, the biggest problem of the seriously deluded is their (i.e. your) misapprehension that just asserting something makes it true.

It's no assertion, dear. If you've spent any amount of time in various Janet DL threads, you'd see the many people who profess their affinity for me. Alas, it's clear that you're speaking from an embarrassingly ignorant place. I forgive you.

Republican voters.

Bears fans. After defending Brandon Marshall's domestic violence arrest, they tweet stuff like this.

Ugly man porn fans, of whom there are many on DL.

Fans of Ted Cruz

Toss up between fans of 49ers and Cowboys.

Interesting theory, R149. My sister's daughter is always shipping characters on TV shows, and it feels pretty delusional most of the time.

She constantly bitched in online forums because the two leads in Bones didn't get together. I asked her one time why she didn't sit back and let the writers and producers put together the show they want since she seems to enjoy their product. She was pissed at me for weeks. She would be happy if every show she watches would become a romcom.

When she was a child, she enjoyed creating romances with her dolls with much kissing and overwrought dialogue. I could see her current behavior being a natural evolution.

The strangest thing is that she has many online friends and they spend endless hours fantasizing about characters who should be paired, whether or not it is logical.

The Queer as Folk fan base is the scariest to me, and I never knew such a thing existed until coming to the Datalounge.

Michael Jackson fans, no contest. I've been on at least 4 music forums (not Jackson-related) that had to either ban discussion of him or corral the delusional obsessives into a separate section so the entire forum wouldn't be overtaken.

Jesus Christ!

You see how that mentally ill woman, Janbot, does it? She's back at it again. Invading threads as an occupying army. Witless. And always leaving a skidmark at the end of her posts as a Janet Imgur.

Lifeless, mental case, retarded, lonely hood bitch whose actual ID might have been revealed here.

Begone, Janbot. There is help for such mental illness as your own, but you will not find it on DataLounge.

Are you familiar with GODSPOUSES?

These tragics have had a mental break with reality so profound that they believe they are [italic]literally[/italic] married to, and having sexual relations, with LOKI, a character in comic books.

And there's a horde of them! A bunch of sad, middle aged white women who honestly believe they're the chosen cumdumpster of a comic book deity.

It's a fan base that combines all the worst obsessive tendencies of fandom, the insanity of the devoutly religious, and certifiable mental illness.

An example of the lunacy...

[quote]How does it happen? Well, for me it’s in the astral. Like, if they want some they’ll literally not stop fucking bothering me until I travel or they’ll make me tired to the point I have to sleep (and I always travel when I sleep. Usually Thor’s the one doing it this way). I’ll sometimes be able to “feel” them in the physical realm. I’ll be able to tell where Thor’s hands are, or where Loki’s lips are going. A lot of the times I can close my eyes and all but see them. It’s kind of unnerving actually. I don’t mind it, but when you start feeling a God touching you and kissing you, you get all “asoilkdjasjdsaklfjaklfifsveaofvhedklgvejdgd” about it.

[quote]I'll theorize that it's the same sort of enjoyment they got as children when playing with dolls

I think that's probably accurate, R149. A common theme in those stories is having the male characters be hopelessly in love, yet too emotionally retarded to form their own relationship. It takes the intervention of a female character to "knock some sense into those dumb boys" and get them to start dating or move in together or whatever. Then she has to help them set up and decorate their houses, and plan their weddings, and teach them how to take care of their children, etc. The guys are always delighted by this interference and have conversations like, "Thank God Debbie finally got us to admit our love!" "Amen to that! But let's be sure to decide on the wedding invitations before tomorrow, because I don't want to be on her bad side!" "You're right, babe. She is a force of nature when she's mad!" "I am truly scared of that woman!" Every aspect of their relationship is run by the woman and must meet her approval. Very strange, and very much like a dollhouse.

Android fanatics who hate anything Apple/Mac are a pretty scary bunch

Glen Beck

[quote] When she was a child, she enjoyed creating romances with her dolls with much kissing and overwrought dialogue.

Your sister is Judy Miller!

Democrats, of course.

Yeah, Juggalos. When I was a really little kid I watched westerns on tv and the Indians scared the shit out of me with their tomahawks, scalping, flaming arrows shot into houses to drive the pioneer families outdoors so they could commit atrocities against them. I had horrible nightmares of my house being attacked by Indians and my parents being killed by them.

When I see Juggalos, all of that fear comes back to me.

the columbine fandom

[quote]Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's $2M wedding pics fail to drive sales for People magazine.

OMG, I am scared to think what they do next to stay relevant. Maybe they should talk to Beyawnzze and JayZZZ. Faking a fight in an elevator got them some good publicity.

[quote]These tragics have had a mental break with reality so profound that they believe they are literally married to, and having sexual relations, with LOKI, a character in comic books.

Just like SNAPEWIVES, who were certain they were married to Severus Snape "on the astral plain."

The old Fandom Wank thread on this was epic.

claymates. they are insane

R167,the said `Debbie` is the projecion of the writer/shipper herself (and what else could it be?) .and such self-projection/insertion is known as the `Mary Sue` of the given fic.

Anti abortion people.

Also 19 kids and counting fans, oddly enough. Myself and dozens of other strangers used to troll the Facebook page for a laugh. Those people are wacko and so UN god like its halarious, and they're very easy to toy with.

Years ago, I ventured into the TWoP forum for All My Children, and discovered the fans of lesbian couple Bianca and Lena.

Truly scary stuff. So much so that I actually felt scared for the two actresses that some of these chicks were going to stalk them.

I love Janbot.

I loathe the anti-Janet cunt who has shit on this thread a dozen or more times now. She's ill.

Straights. They think everyone should be like them.

British TV fans of shows featuring nerdy looking British actors. They are even worse than Gleeks.

Fans of Cumberbatch, Barrowman, Tovey and that dreary King Arthur show with a pasty-faced young Merlin they were drooling over.

I used to think fans of the unfortunately mouthed actor that plays Kurt were the worst till I encountered these even more rabidly blind fans.

Jermaine Jackson fans.

Definitely Apple iSheeple.

[quote]I love Janbot. I loathe the anti-Janet cunt who has shit on this thread a dozen or more times now. She's ill.

Love you too! That stupid bitch at R165 are a blight on this site.

X files fans Twilight fans Tig notaro fans

R185, Thank you for your Ebonics message. We'll have it translated at the earliest opportunity.

[quote]You see how that mentally ill woman, Janbot, does it?

Woman? LOL! No dear. I'm a man with a dick that's twice the size of your limp noodle.

[quote]Thank you for your Ebonics message

As you pluck away on that keyboard inside of your rusty trailer somewhere off a dank Louisiana swamp.

I once went to a string of Nine Inch Nails shows one summer. The crazy bitches who followed that band were unreal. Fighting in line for a front spot; sleeping on the ground like hobos, fucking roadies for backstage passes. It was a traveling 3 ring circus.

The Jussy Timberlake fans on this site are kind of creepy.

"Jussy" Timberlake doesn't have any fans on this site, R191. But his haters are as scary as a snake down the pants.

I've always liked Janbot. Sure, he's nuts but as a DL institution and force of nature he surpasses mere fandom.

The Snape Wives have to be the craziest bunch I've seen. As fans of pasty Englishmen go, they put the Cumberbitches and Hiddlestoners to shame (although the Thor/Loki astral-fuckers show real promise).

The delusional bitches who still argue about Aniston and Jolie are hardcore freaks.

Twilight fucks and Vampire freaks.

I rather hang out with a Timberfake hater.

Yuck, the guy is disgusting!

R193, Janbot has her own youtube channel going where you can listen to him recite his own dreadful poetry. The link is here in DL somewhere. I just listened to him.

R79 R81 R84 R86 R87 R90 R96 R97 R101 R103 R109 R111 R116 R151 R152 R155 R156 R185 R188 R189

BULLY, BULLY, BULLY.......

The Merylbots. "She's the greatest actress, ever, and [bold]everybody[/bold] believes that!", "Her BMs should receive Academy Awards!", "If you disagree that Meryl is a deity, you're an idiot!", etc. Years ago, I was attacked on this site by some Meryl loon because I had the temerity to post a non-worshipful comment about her. I grew to dislike her simply because of the DL Meryl acolytes.

R198, have you met our Janbot yet?

R199, I have. The genuine Janbot amuses me because her/his posts seem tongue in cheek and have humor (I believe that the poster who took over this thread is a poor impersonator).

On the other hand, the Merylbots are hardcore. They will seriously cut someone who dares to express even the tiniest dissenting opinion about Meryl's status and stature, and they are [italic]not[/italic] joking.

Roger Federer fans. The most petulant, smug and entitled fandom in all of sports.

[quote] My sister's daughter is always shipping characters on TV shows, and it feels pretty delusional most of the time.

How old is she? If she's a preteen or teen, that's good. Because she's not out getting pregnant, she's channeling her sexual desires to idols who don't exist.

If she's not a teen, then you know better than I do that's she's mentally bizarre.

The lesbian Olivia Benson shippers.

[quote]I grew to dislike her simply because of the DL Meryl acolytes.

I have other reasons for disliking her. I'm glad my studio cast her as a witch. It won't be much of a stretch.

bump

R205, I don't think bumps have much of a scary fan base unless one counts baby bump fetishists.

[quote][R198], have you met our Janbot yet?

You have lit just about every Janet thread up that I've started in piss Trolldar yellow. It's clear that you're in love with me, and while I'm flattered, I must tell you that you're SO not my type.

[quote]R193, Janbot has her own youtube channel going where you can listen to him recite his own dreadful poetry. The link is here in DL somewhere. I just listened to him.

Lies. You're rabid fandom of me has now gone to lengths of fabricating a supposed Youtube page that belongs to me? Girl, you need your head checked--pronto!

Jussy's fans are lovers not fighters

*That's YOUR rabid fandom of me...

"Toss up between fans of 49ers and Cowboys."

If we're talking about sports teams, The Patriots, Red Sox, Yankees, and the Philadelphia Eagles all have some pretty annoying fans. Ditto the Alabama Crimson Tide loonies.

Gaylors

BTS Army but they trolled Trump so I give them a pass for now.

R56 and R130 well the show is [italic] finally [/italic] over so hopefully they'll start to die down like the TwiHards did.

Do any of you belong our consider yourself to belong to a cult yourselves?

Or are cults other people always?

High School Band Boosters!

R16 I have a soft spot for Juggalos. I find their weirdness and benign cultishness really endearing.

Maybe that's because I used to be really into pro-wrestling; the crossover between both fanbases is big.

Which brings me to my nomination: the IWC (Internet Wrestling Community), aka 'Smarks'. They ruined their own fandom.

LARRIES

R217 actual pro-wrestlers despise smarks, because they shoot down gimmicks and angles before anything has a chance to get off the ground, as well as kill hype for emerging new talent. All smarks do is complain, no matter what anyone does or says, and performers cannot make them happy. However, the groundswell of smark opinion affects the bottom line of performers, because in wrestling, popularity dictates how many opportunities a performer gets.

It's like if BroadwayWorld posters had a hugely vocal and powerful impact on shows, and started getting performers and directors they didn't like shitcanned for being predictable or for not catering to their wishes.

Pron fans. The worst. They obsess over an actor who they feel they can identify with and then the creepy behavior begins. Stalking. These guys are Closet cases, repressed married men and crazy old bitter queens. They stalk the families of actors. They ARE Bad Ronald.

Follies!

Got to be the Jesus freaks.

I don't mind Angelina Jolie or Benedict Cumberbatch but their fans are way too emotionally invested in them.

I worked with a woman who was an obsessive Michael Jackson fan. She was unhinged. For many years after his death she would post how much she "missed" him and continued to "mourn" him on FB. She took pilgrimages to Forest Lawn (I don't think you can actually visit his grave?) every year. She had Michael Jackson vanity plates. It was unsettling, to say the least.

I should add at r224 -- I also had a very odd encounter with a Betty Lynn fan at one of her concerts. Ruined what had been a lovely evening. Apparently, she has a few long-term stalkers.

Furries. I remember them back in the 90s. I think some of them were certifiably insane. One I knew thought she was a dragon, and used to sit up in trees doing dragon things and thinking dragon thoughts.

Gerard Butler fans, AKA Tarts or G.A.L.S. His appearance in Joel Schumacher's 2004 "Phantom of the Opera" film compounded the lunacy. Fangirls are still certain he is just like the lonely, misunderstood Phantom, waiting for the right woman to come along.

I learned of the “Snape Wife” here on the DL., so I did some Reddit research. This is a woman who is obsessed with the nasty Harry Potter character, Professor Snape, who is the embodiment of every bitter, sarcastic, creepy ass high school teacher you’ve ever had. With greasy hair.

Evidently these women believe they are married to the character in another dimension and have sex with him there. I’m assuming they’re having sex with Allan Rickman in his Snape costume and wig. Gross. No other fandom comes close.

Eek.

Cody Fern's fans were pretty cringey, acting like a thirty year old man was a delicate little flower who needed teenage girls to protect his "privacy". I wonder if that was the reason he seems to have completely vanished or if he just got cocky and thought he could make it without sucking Murphy's dick.

"This is a woman who is obsessed with the nasty Harry Potter character, Professor Snape, who is the embodiment of every bitter, sarcastic, creepy ass high school teacher you’ve ever had. With greasy hair."

I love Snape, but in a sane way! If you've read the books you realize that he was a brilliant and courageous man, who spent years being stuck teaching high school kids against every natural inclination he possessed, and who hated his job just like regular adults do and who took it out on the kids with Datalounge-level bitchery. If Snape were a real person, he'd fit right in here, and I'd want to be his pal.

But yeah, the Harry Potter fandom is full of idiots, but apart from a few outliers like the Snapewives most people there are at least sane. Unlike the hardcore Star Wars fans or DC Comics fans, who tend to be angry assholes with zero sense of humor, the worst sort of conservative politics, racist beliefs and persecution complexes regarding percieved attacks on white men, and probably, autism spectrum disorders.

Dl theater queens are scary. They think that every Broadway performer is their best friend.

Those pro Jackos who rant about the train station and don't believe that he was a major pedo.

[Quote] and thinking dragon thoughts.

Dragon thoughts? 😆

Takarazuka Revue fans. And I'm the board's resident Takarazuka Troll, saying that. I am practically ambivalent about it all, compared to some of these bitches.

You have never met a more ruthless, chilly, methodical and Nazi collective of musical-theatre Fanfrauen in your life. They have rules and the Revue has rules that you will obey, and should you commit the slightest hair-out-of-place infraction you will be chased off and sent to Canterbury forever. You can't relax around them. Even chatting with them over livestreams of shows, the wrong word or pause could land you in emotional prison or exile. Between the militancy of the fans and the Revue itself making their shows & stars so difficult to access, it's not hard to see why the Western fandom is so tiny and so insular.

At least we can say they're extremely orderly, polite, and well-groomed for crazed obsessed stalker podpeople, though. Can't hand a letter to your chosen favourite seito/sienne (star) acting and looking like a scrub, after all. They hold frequent high-class tea-parties, too. I'm bitching, but there is an amount of quality to being a Taka fan provided you can and do attempt to meet the impossible standards. My pet theory is that the existing fans, especially in the West, are very protective of Taka--rightfully so, as it is a rare unique group, but they take it a little too far.

The clip at the link is an example of 'demachi', what happens after a show at the Japanese equivalent of stage-door. The elite of fans--the ones who organise clubs and host events, run cards and flowers to the seito/sienne, buy up all the tickets, create and mod websites, petition for their seito to become Top-star--form what is called a 'guard' between casual fans/audience members hanging around after the show and their seito, ostensibly to protect the seito but in reality to hog the seito's attention and be sure to get a front-row seat to gawk at them. The guard are expected to kneel on the busy dirty sidewalk, sometimes at night in the rain or snow or mud, as their seito passes by sparing them only a glance or a smile or a wave. It's such a weird phenomenon, having to do with ancient Japanese honour culture as much as modern day stanning. This is just one example of the codified ritual batshittery that goes on in this fandom.

The seito shown in the clip at the link is Saou Kurama, also affectionately nicknamed 'Koma' by the fans. At the time of filming, she was the Top-star otokoyaku (breeches role) of the Tsukigumi (Moon Troupe, one of six separate Troupes in the Revue). The most famous Top-roles she played in the Revue were Ashley in GONE WITH THE WIND, Georges Jaques Danton in 1789, and Charles Hethersett in ME & MY GIRL. In 2015 she moved to senka (the 'Elders' Troupe, for the most experienced stars to showcase their skills and train the younger members), and in 2018 she retired from the Revue altogether for unspecified/unknown reasons (most of the time, seito/siennes retire to either start a family or become a mainstream stage/screen actress).

Trumpsters.

1D fans because they never seemed sincere. Like they loved that group but the music was never good enough to warrant their fandom. Say what you will about NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys, but they have some hits that can be certified as timeless that everyone will know and likely enjoy enough to get through the song. 1D never had that impact yet their fans acted like they were the Beatles.

I will give them credit for supporting Harry Style's independent music journey. His last album was impressive so I'm interested in his next release. Musically, 1D is terrible and cheap.

Oh and none of the boys could dance. It was a slap in the face to boy band history.

K-Pop fans are not the absolute worst. They've merged an entire genre into one social media force. They do use their powers for good, for instance when they hijacked Republicans hashtags and ProudBoys junk with a bunch of K-Pop vids and gifs.

Outside of politics they are everywhere and very annoying. They also seem harmless. It's very odd.

I used to think Juggalos, but the ones I served four tables of them one night and they were neat, polite, and good tippers.

I knew a guy once who met a horror movie actress twice and now considers her to be a true friend simply because she called him "my friend."

New/bandwagon fans of the series COBRA KAI.

There weren't very many assholes watching, or at least not vocal ones, for the first two seasons (2018-19) when it was a modestly-successful guilty-pleasure show on Youtube Red. It was a nice little fandom of nostalgic types, who appreciated the show for what it was and welcomed change into the KARATE KID universe. Now it's jumped to Netflix for the third season and the next three seasons to follow, suddenly many thousands of new fans have arrived and they're largely horrible people--usually either Gen X trash or their gross kids, spouting the most misogynist homophobic racist douchebro invective. All the good things about the show will probably disappear in the next season, because these goons are shouting the loudest online about what they need and want in 'their' show.

What's so funny is that these types of fans are exactly the sort of bullies that the show satirizes.

R226 the girl who you describe was Otherkin. That's something very different to Furry.

I'd rather befriend an Otherkin than a Furry. The former do not necessarily have antisocial or highly deviant tendencies.

The entire Outlander fan base is crazy.

Larries are far and away the worst. They harass any journalist or radio show that mentions Louis Tomlinson's child or long term partner. They even phoned up his gf's uni and demanded she be expelled for closeting a gay man. Any woman who dates them has to turn off her social media comments or she gets bombarded with hate.

[Quote] Larries are far and away the worst.

That was made clear the second one of them drove God knows how many miles to try and get a copy of a birth certificate when Louis son was born.