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OJ and Nicole Brown Simpson's kids, Justin and Sydney

Whatever happened to them? Who took care of them when OJ went to jail?

They must be adults now. Have they ever commented on their mother's murder?

by Anonymousreply 108November 12, 2018 1:36 AM

The destruction that man did to a family is unreal. Actually 3 families.

by Anonymousreply 1August 29, 2014 6:38 AM

I just saw a recent photo. The daughter is kind of heavy now. Apparently they went to college, but both have low level restaurant jobs in Atlanta. I think OJ raised them so they were grown by the time he went to jail.

I feel very badly for them. That was not a easy situation to have grown up in.

by Anonymousreply 2August 29, 2014 6:50 AM

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by Anonymousreply 3August 29, 2014 7:17 AM

Why? He was set up for the murder and set up for the retrieval (white cops called it theft). You know how cops treat blacks.

by Anonymousreply 4August 29, 2014 8:38 AM

Cops treat blacks badly, no question, but blacks are sometimes guilty too. Both can be true! I hope you're leading the hunt for Nicole Simpson's killer, R4.

Feel very sorry for those young people. Their mother dead and that man for a father.

by Anonymousreply 5August 29, 2014 8:48 AM

R4 is a parody post, right?

Are there really DLers *that* stupid?

by Anonymousreply 6August 29, 2014 8:53 AM

I don't think they have publicly commented on their mother's murder, OP.

O.J.'s evil knew no bounds in that horrible event. I guess the poor kids heard nothing that night. And how could a father create such a horrific scene for his children to possibly discover? (Rhetorical question, really.)

by Anonymousreply 7August 29, 2014 8:58 AM

From the DailyMail article: "Justin, 25, filled out a gray suit, while his hair appeared to be starting to thin on top"

APPEARED to be STARTING? I just saw Kevin Spacey do a double-take and give a sympathetic hiss at that tragic hairline!

by Anonymousreply 8August 29, 2014 8:59 AM

Ron was hot! Do you think he was cut?

by Anonymousreply 9August 29, 2014 10:15 AM

[quote]Actually 3 families.

Yeah, but the Goldmans got a nice paycheck out of it, so they're no longer too upset.

by Anonymousreply 10August 29, 2014 10:19 AM

The daughter no longer lives in California? That's odd, because Lionel Richie's younger daughter was on "Access Hollywood Live" talking about being on Nicole Richie's realty show.

When Billy Bush asked her who her close friends were, she said Sydney Simpson was her best friend and a photo of them was shown.

by Anonymousreply 11August 29, 2014 10:43 AM

Those kids got neither of their parents looks. It's a shame Hollywood kids are full of Chloe Lattanzi's and the Potato Head Trio.

by Anonymousreply 12August 29, 2014 11:39 AM

Hope the two kids got some (if any) of OJ's.

by Anonymousreply 13August 29, 2014 11:50 AM

r4 is just a Manson manque who's been trolling DL while tugging his tiny todger, longing for race war.

by Anonymousreply 14August 29, 2014 11:52 AM

Of course no police officer would ever do anything to a black man. Yeah right. They're killing people left and right. Wake up loser.

by Anonymousreply 15August 29, 2014 12:46 PM

Arnelle Simpson is attractive.

by Anonymousreply 16August 29, 2014 12:49 PM

I know in my heart OJ was guilty but if I'd been on the jury I'd have acquited him.

The defense proved reasonable doubt.

by Anonymousreply 17August 29, 2014 12:50 PM

Which is why I will never serve on a jury. The justice system is a game. May the best lawyer, or the richest client win. Although when the lawyer finishes up, his client may be broke. At least that is some sort of justice.

by Anonymousreply 18August 29, 2014 12:59 PM

While I agree that cops unfairly, and disgustingly, target black men, in this case, it's clear to anyone with a working brain that Simpson is guilty. Save your outrage for real victims like Oscar Grant, Trayvon Martin, and Michael Brown.

OJ isn't worth it.

by Anonymousreply 19August 29, 2014 1:30 PM

O.J. Simpson Is Obsessed With Kim Kardashian, Says He's Going To Marry Her When He Gets Out Of Prison

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by Anonymousreply 20August 29, 2014 1:32 PM

r17 is an idiot. What more did you want, a video of it happening??! Good god.

by Anonymousreply 21August 29, 2014 1:38 PM

[quote]Cops treat blacks badly, no question, but blacks are sometimes guilty too.

How old are you? You sound like a child

by Anonymousreply 22August 29, 2014 1:40 PM

Good looking kids. The son looks like his father, but he has his moms eyes. Hard to tell with the daughter, with the sunglasses on.

by Anonymousreply 23August 29, 2014 1:54 PM

Kim would have been around OJ as a kid, given Kris and Robert's friendship with them both, though I've never seen her talk about that as I don;t watch the shows.

by Anonymousreply 24August 29, 2014 2:06 PM

R9 Yes, he was cut and butchered by Simpson, who was allowed to get away with murder by hate-filled black women.

R19 Police had nothing to do with Trayvon Martin. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Police officers don't want to die on duty. Black people need to raise less thuggish, violent, criminal children.

Like the murderous pig OJ Simpson.

by Anonymousreply 25August 29, 2014 2:24 PM

The last I heard about OJ, the officers at the jail holding him saw something concealed under his shirt in the cafeteria, and pulled him to on ground. What they found were cookies he had somehow stolen.

by Anonymousreply 26August 29, 2014 2:31 PM

[quote]How old are you? You sound like a child

Yes. Black people have never ever committed murder. It has always been only the white police setting them up since the dawn of history.

by Anonymousreply 27August 29, 2014 4:11 PM

[quote]How old are you? You sound like a child

It's childish to state certain facts, like that no racial or ethnic group is uniformly perfect and innocent?

by Anonymousreply 28August 29, 2014 4:35 PM

[quote] Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

Testify!

Chortle.

by Anonymousreply 29August 29, 2014 4:42 PM

[quote] Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

No kidding!

by Anonymousreply 30August 29, 2014 4:43 PM

[quote]O.J. Simpson Is Obsessed With Kim Kardashian, Says He's Going To Marry Her When He Gets Out Of Prison

If only ...

by Anonymousreply 31August 29, 2014 4:58 PM

"Save your outrage for real victims like Oscar Grant, Trayvon Martin, and Michael Brown."

That depends on who you ask. Many think each of them was a criminal.

by Anonymousreply 32August 29, 2014 5:02 PM

[quote]Yeah, but the Goldmans got a nice paycheck out of it, so they're no longer too upset.

You fucking piece of shit, they didn't get any money

by Anonymousreply 33August 29, 2014 5:06 PM

Ron was gorgeous, by all accounts a nice guy too. What a waste.

by Anonymousreply 34August 29, 2014 5:10 PM

R33 is right. The Goldmans won a very large (like $33 million)civil suit against OJ, but he never paid a dime of it. IIRC, he skipped out of California & came to Florida.

OJ used to have a house in South Florida, where he had his kids, in the time between his not-guilty murder verdict & being sent up the river for his escapade in Vegas.

The house went into foreclosure a few years ago & the bank repossessed it. Don't know where he sent the kids after that. But hopefully, OJ will die in jail.

by Anonymousreply 35August 29, 2014 5:17 PM

[quote]"Save your outrage for real victims like Oscar Grant, Trayvon Martin, and Michael Brown."

You mean there individual lives were somehow more valuable than Nicole Brown Simpson's and Ron Goldman's? Please explain.

by Anonymousreply 36August 29, 2014 5:20 PM

Here's how poor Ron ended up. I don't remember ever seeing this before, it's how they found his body laying on the walkway.

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by Anonymousreply 37August 29, 2014 5:21 PM

*"their," not "there." Sorry--"oh, dear" to myself.

by Anonymousreply 38August 29, 2014 5:21 PM

It happens to the best of us, r38. The spelling trolls never admit they fuck up occasionally too, but you know they do.

by Anonymousreply 39August 29, 2014 5:25 PM

Shut up, R36. Shuffle off back to Stormfront, troll. That was in response to people who see OJ as a victim, versus those three unarmed young men who were shot to death for no reason.

by Anonymousreply 40August 29, 2014 6:12 PM

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by Anonymousreply 41August 29, 2014 6:44 PM

[quote]Ron was hot! Do you think he was cut?

Other than by OJ? Given that he was Jewish, he probably was.

by Anonymousreply 42August 29, 2014 7:25 PM

I really thought that Sydney was a beautiful little girl, and that she would be stunning as an adult. I also agree with r41 about Nicole. Damn, that manly jaw, non existent lips, and premature aging...she looks 50.

by Anonymousreply 43August 29, 2014 7:33 PM

R9 I'm pretty sure Ron Goldman was circumcised.

Annnnd I just got your joke as I was typing this.

by Anonymousreply 44August 29, 2014 7:43 PM

Unfortunately, all of Nicole's sisters had that exact same look - lantern jaw, thin mouth, a hardness around the eyes. Some of that came with the grief and the strain, of course. I recall reading that Nicole was a teenager when OJ targeted her. Her youth was probably the big draw for him - he wanted a woman he could groom and control.

by Anonymousreply 45August 29, 2014 7:52 PM

Just to add, that Nicole's hard look in her thirties would be at least partly due to the stress of having an abusive partner, I mean, she was terrified of him. But all the Brown girls had it, after Nicole's death.

by Anonymousreply 46August 29, 2014 7:55 PM

Seems the two kids did pretty well considering - ok, your famous father murders your mother with the ensuing trial that is watched all over the world, now your father is in jail for another crime.

You never hear about either one of them making any headlines, and these are the first pictures to emerge of them in years.

The Brown family was probably a very stable and loving environment for them.

by Anonymousreply 47August 29, 2014 9:39 PM

Whoever raised the two children did a great job. Justin and Sydney had every reason to go off the rails, yet they lead normal, adult lives. I hope they are happy.

by Anonymousreply 48August 29, 2014 9:47 PM

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by Anonymousreply 49August 29, 2014 9:48 PM

OJ never killed Nicole or anyone else. Now he's sitting in prison because of a prejudiced judge. It's disgusting. A man should be able to collect his own property.

Furman was a dirty cop who set OJ up, it was actually proven but no white American wanted to hear the truth and since the news organizations had convicted him, they never wanted to report the truth. It was just another American tragedy. All based on racism.

by Anonymousreply 50August 29, 2014 9:58 PM

[R5] Bait much? Stupid, ignorant fool.

by Anonymousreply 51August 29, 2014 10:00 PM

[quote]Which is why I will never serve on a jury. The justice system is a game.

Huh? That makes no sense. A jury of ones' peers is the only instrument we have in insure justice, you fool! I guess you rarely vote, right? Of course by not voting we double the impact of those who fail to come up with excuses not to.

I love to watch the weasely types like you trying to wiggle out of jury service. Believe me, if they call you, they will MAKE you serve your time!

by Anonymousreply 52August 29, 2014 10:35 PM

r50 is performance art, or a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 53August 29, 2014 10:41 PM

LOL @R50. Wow.

by Anonymousreply 54August 29, 2014 10:50 PM

At least they didn't end up like Montana Fishburne.

by Anonymousreply 55August 30, 2014 12:02 AM

r45, what Nicole's allure was, was her youth PLUS her California White Blondeness.

r50 is so profoundly stupid.

by Anonymousreply 56August 30, 2014 12:18 AM

"Police had nothing to do with Trayvon Martin. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Police officers don't want to die on duty. Black people need to raise less thuggish, violent, criminal children."

Men commit WAY more crime than women regardless of race, yet no one says we should look askance at all men.

by Anonymousreply 57August 30, 2014 12:26 AM

"They must be adults now."

Considering this all happened twenty years ago, I think most mathematicians would agree as to that likelihood.

by Anonymousreply 58August 30, 2014 12:28 AM

R57 has apparently never heard of Michfest.

by Anonymousreply 59August 30, 2014 12:47 AM

Back in the 1990s fewer women had undergone heavy plastic surgery or even Botox. That is why Nicole Brown Simpson looks rough by today's standards. I actually like her appearance. It is a last gasp of the real, which is gone now.

by Anonymousreply 60August 30, 2014 1:08 AM

OJ was a successful man, he had many women who would have been happy to live with him. His career was going well.

The timeline was completely wrong for OJ to have committed the murders and the gloves were planted by Furman. Seriously, OJ took a glove off at the scene, dropped one there and made sure he dropped the other one at his house? Yeah, you girls are brilliant! Never in your life had an independent thought...always have to be spoon fed, by some other (racist) authority figure? People with low IQs need to be told what to think. Too stupid to figure out that OJ, simply does not fit the profile of a killer. He certainly had no real reason to kill, Nicole. She was his full time babysitter, it's what most fathers dream of.

by Anonymousreply 61August 30, 2014 1:11 AM

[quote]Apparently they went to college, but both have low level restaurant jobs in Atlanta.

What on earth...

by Anonymousreply 62August 30, 2014 1:11 AM

Fuhrman was hot!

by Anonymousreply 63August 30, 2014 1:37 AM

[quote]The timeline was completely wrong for OJ to have committed the murders and the gloves were planted by Furman.

Bear in mind that at the time that he allegedly planted the glove, the LAPD didn't know where OJ was. For all the detectives knew, he was on the other side of the planet, in front of dozens/hundreds of witnesses. Also keep in mind that attempting to frame someone for a capital crime is itself a capital crime, with the possibility of the death sentence, something the detectives likely knew. Why would four detectives who, from the reports I read/heard, scarcely even knew one another at the time risk their careers, their freedom and their LIVES on a spontaneously created frameup they couldn't even be sure would work? I'll understand if you can't come up with a logical reply.

by Anonymousreply 64August 30, 2014 1:39 AM

I think the older son did it and OJ covered.

by Anonymousreply 65August 30, 2014 2:27 AM

I think it was my friend Julie.

by Anonymousreply 66August 30, 2014 2:36 AM

Furman planted the gloves. That's the very first thing that tipped me off that OJ was being framed. Those gloves never fit OJ...probably not even when he was 12. OJ was framed by Furman and the press and you guys all followed along, like a flock of sheep. You never once questioned anything. The real murderer was caught for another murder and is now dead but OJ and his kids paid the price. Who's to blame? Furman, lazy prosecutors, The Enquirer, Jay Leno and a racist society.

by Anonymousreply 67August 30, 2014 2:36 AM

[quote]The real murderer was caught for another murder

Who would that be, pray tell?

[quote] but OJ and his kids paid the price.

Yes, OJ paid a terrible price, getting off scot-free like that for the murders.

The poor man--my heart absolutely bleeds for how badly the system treated him!

by Anonymousreply 68August 30, 2014 2:41 AM

R65 are you stupid? If Justin's 25 now, he was only 5 then. Yeah, a kindergartener butchered two grown adults, including a man over 6'. Lately DL has some of the most idiotic morons lately.

by Anonymousreply 69August 30, 2014 2:41 AM

R65 is referring to OJ's son by his first wife. Not that that makes him any less dumb.

by Anonymousreply 70August 30, 2014 2:58 AM

[quote]Those gloves never fit OJ...probably not even when he was 12.

OJ likely stopped taking his arthritis meds several days before that, causing his hands to swell. Also nobody tried to verify his claim when he said they didn't fit. How likely is it that he really tried?

by Anonymousreply 71August 30, 2014 3:01 AM

R71, I've always wondered if the gloves had shrunk some, too.

Also, he made a big show of them not fitting, and COchrans "If it does not fit, you must acquit" slogan was so stupid. I hope he's burning in hell.

by Anonymousreply 72August 30, 2014 3:06 AM

You sad bitches with the gloves didn't fit bull shit... OJ had sooo much trouble putting them on, but then removed them like butter off a hot knife and OJ was the kind of savage who would have dropped a glove at a crime a crime scene[ add to that he left Ron and Nicoles blood everywhere; his car, the gloves] and add to that the fact that POS Kardashian made the clothes disappear makes him guilty in any world of decency. Anyone else would have been found guilty, but like another poster added: hate filled black women made sure he got off. . So onto Sydney; she's a lot more light skinned than the pics of her as a kid next to her brother: bating in Esoterica much?

by Anonymousreply 73August 30, 2014 3:12 AM

R69 I believe r65 is referring to OJ's oldest son Jason who was 24 at the time of the murders. There was a book written a few years ago speculating that he was the "real" killer.

by Anonymousreply 74August 30, 2014 3:15 AM

"The real murderer was caught for another murder and is now dead"

NAME PLEASE!

by Anonymousreply 75August 30, 2014 3:45 AM

I saw a documentary on the 'Justin did it and OJ took the rap' theory. It had some interesting points. Justin was a chef, had the kind of knives which could have been used in the attack. He apparently harboured a lot of resentment towards Nicole. The theory is that Justin rang OJ after he killed Nicole and Ron and OJ arrived on the scene, hence the blood in his car etc.

I wasn't persuaded, though. For me, Vincent Bugliosi's book slam-dunks OJ. I recall Bugliosi had evidence that OJ confessed to a minister in the jail before the trial began.

Also R61 is talking utter nonsense about 'why would OJ kill his children's babysitter, he could have any woman'. OJ has the profile of a psychopath. Glib, charming, narcissistic, very violent. He viewed Nicole as his property. Such men can fly into homicidal rage if they suspect their partner or ex-partner is escaping their control That is the reason such men kill the mothers of their children or 'full time babysitters'.

by Anonymousreply 76August 30, 2014 8:18 AM

I don't know if this has been said earlier, but about a year ago it made the papers that the daughter---who was supposed to be making mortgage payments on OJ's house in Florida---wasn't making them at all. She was keeping the money. The foreclosed on OJ's house in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 77August 30, 2014 8:33 AM

OJ house sale notice.

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by Anonymousreply 79August 30, 2014 8:39 AM

Drink water 'cause the juice will kill ya.

by Anonymousreply 80August 30, 2014 8:44 AM

I've also wondered who took care of Justin & Sydney for all those years. They kind of lucked out that all this happened in the 90s before the internet really took off, they have been able to live pretty normal lives, and they are unrecognizable enough to have regular day jobs.

Hilarious that he hates his oldest daughter Arnelle for blowing all his cash. I wonder if Justin and Sydney hate her as well for spending his pension however she wants. They seem like very independent kids though. Interesting theory about Jason, and his record of mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 81August 30, 2014 12:28 PM

"People with low IQs need to be told what to think. Too stupid to figure out that OJ, simply does not fit the profile of a killer."

People have a weird idea of what killers look/act like. I mean, people on the datalounge are so eager to believe that Amanda Knox and her boyfriend committed a sex slaying for....no reason even though neither had a history of violence but OJ couldn't have killed the ex-wife he abused?

by Anonymousreply 82August 30, 2014 2:05 PM

from the words of a killer

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by Anonymousreply 83August 30, 2014 3:54 PM

[quote] but OJ couldn't have killed the ex-wife he abused?

There's a hell of a big difference between thumping someone and killing 'em.

by Anonymousreply 84August 30, 2014 4:03 PM

R69, are you stupid? Ever heard of Jason Simpson? OJ's oldest son who was 24 at the time of the murder and happened to be a professional chef who knew his way around a knife?

by Anonymousreply 85August 30, 2014 4:05 PM

[quote]There's a hell of a big difference between thumping someone and killing 'em.

Not much difference at all. It's a very easy line for a violent person to cross.

by Anonymousreply 86August 30, 2014 6:34 PM

Anybody know if there is a summary of OJ's book? I don't want to read the whole fucking thing.

by Anonymousreply 87August 30, 2014 6:46 PM

[quote]Yes, he was cut and butchered by Simpson, who was allowed to get away with murder by hate-filled black women.

One thing is that it appeared apparent that many African Americans didn't think of Nicole as a person. She was a trophy, a prize etc, but not a real woman who they could relate to largely due to her race. I have little doubt that African Americans would have looked at the case differently if Nicole had been African American too. Then they would've judged O.J. and looked at him as the man who murdered the mother of his children, his ex-wife.

by Anonymousreply 88August 30, 2014 6:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 89August 30, 2014 6:54 PM

Well said, R88.

by Anonymousreply 90August 30, 2014 8:09 PM

Justins ass looks quite fuckable.

by Anonymousreply 91August 30, 2014 8:11 PM

Yes, enough about old news OJ.

What do we know about Justin? Does he have a girlfriend? He lives in ATL...

by Anonymousreply 92August 30, 2014 8:34 PM

R69, they understood it. They thought the evidence was planted. the police and the DA mishandled that case. Blame them.

by Anonymousreply 93August 30, 2014 8:41 PM

I always thought that OJ's eldest son could've done it. Why that wasn't pursued... Some thing about the way OJ responded to getting off...

It's nice to see the kids are with the Brown family. And they are indeed lucky they escaped the limelight. I always felt that they were doomed for horrible lives... but it appears they were spared.

Our justice system is flawed in many ways: corruption and racism are still rampant issues. Of course if you are wealthy you are always more likely to beat a rap and this is what the OJ case proved to me.

Anyone know what his elder son is up too??

by Anonymousreply 94August 30, 2014 9:29 PM

That's pretty shitty that Arnelle is allowed to waste his pension and lose his home.

WTH hasn't OJ had her removed as the overseer of his pension ?

I saw a show a long time ago that made a case of the killer being drug related. It's been so long I've forgotten most of it but it did cast doubt on OJ's guilt.

Anyone else remember this ? IIRC Faye Resnick was associating with some bad news drug dealers.

by Anonymousreply 95August 30, 2014 9:36 PM

If the Brown family had not turned cartwheels when 18 year old Nicole broke up Simpson's marriage, she would probably be alive today.

by Anonymousreply 96August 30, 2014 9:59 PM

R88, I listened to an all-black radio station in the DC area during the trial. Was disgusted by the callers' gleeful jeering/mockery at the tears and clear anguish of Nicole's sister on the witness stand. The callers did not think of Nicole Simpson as a human being and seemed delighted that she had been murdered.

R96 is clearly thrilled too.

by Anonymousreply 97August 31, 2014 12:28 PM

OJ did it. Anyone who overlooks all the evidence to focus simply on Mark Fuhrman is a moron.

Fuhrman planted a glove on OJ? Why? He could have just as or moreso easily planted it on some poor Black schmuck in the ghetto. No, he picked OJ, because he figured a case against a beloved celebrity would be a slam-dunk. You complete idiots.

Too bad he didn't think to plant the size-12 Bruno Maglis that OJ lied about owning.

Or to REALLY splash the car and house with some of the buckets of blood found at the scene.

And couldn't Fuhrman have at least come up with a knife, FGS?

No, he plants one measly glove, against an outside wall---Jeez Louise, he couldn't have waited until he got to OJ's bedroom?! What an incompetent boob!

Well, at least Orenthal, sweet, kind, wouldn't kill a fly Orenthal James, was seen as the innocent he was, by a jury of his....by a jury.

by Anonymousreply 98August 31, 2014 1:08 PM

I think his son did it.

by Anonymousreply 99August 31, 2014 1:25 PM

OJ is a sociopath. He wouldn't take the rap for anyone else. Period.

by Anonymousreply 100August 31, 2014 1:31 PM

I'd better add: In my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 101August 31, 2014 1:40 PM

New Times Los Angeles May 24, 2001, Thursday

O.J. Confidential Texas private eye Bill Dear spent nearly six years and $1 million trying to pin the Bundy murders on O.J.'s son Jason. But his theories stretch credibility and his tactics stretch the law.

By Tony Ortega

It's a Thursday morning, and Bill Dear is starting the day's surveillance of O.J. Simpson's grown son Jason by parking his rental car across the street from Jason's Venice bungalow.

The night before, Dear had flown in from Dallas, where he's a private eye known for inserting himself in high-profile, unsolved crime investigations. Over the years he's succeeded several times when local police failed to find a killer or a missing person, and people who know him attribute that to Dear's extraordinary perseverance and attention to detail. When Dear sets his mind to solve a mystery, friends say, he doesn't let go.

After landing at LAX, Dear rented a dark passenger car -- the better to blend in, he says -- and drove to Venice to case the joint until the wee hours, hoping in vain to catch a glimpse of Jason returning home. Dear eventually gave up and went to his West L.A. hotel at 3 a.m. Back after a few hours of sleep, he's agreed to let a New Times writer and a photographer tag along. At 63, the tall ex-cop looks dapper in a black suit and alligator boots. His longish graying hair, mustache and small beard are neatly groomed. Between frequent interruptions by his cell phone he reels off diverting anecdotes in a richly accented voice. There was the time, for example, when he was summoned by Robert De Niro to a seedy bar. As he was led through an alley to the appointment, Dear began to suspect he'd been set up. Assuming he was about to get whacked, the investigator placed his hand on a concealed gun and got ready to shoot if his guide made any false moves. But the man indeed delivered him to De Niro, who wanted tips about the private eye game to help him portray a gumshoe in an upcoming movie.

Dear sometimes hires other people to keep an eye on Jason Simpson's residence, but he also makes regular trips to L.A. himself. Dear and associates have shadowed Jason for nearly six years, rooting through his trash, checking his mailbox to see who's communicating with him, and talking to neighbors and employers to keep tabs on the 31-year-old chef.

This morning, Dear notices right away that something is not right. Jason's car is missing.

"Where's the Jeep? Did he get rid of the Jeep?" Dear says excitedly.

Jason lives on a narrow but busy Venice lane that's lined with parked cars. But none of them is a Jeep. Dear immediately concludes that the vehicle's absence is linked to his presence. Feeling the heat of Dear's investigation and afraid the Jeep will prove to be incriminating, Jason has ditched it. Or so Dear theorizes.

"I have to get my hands on that Jeep!" he exclaims.

Within a day, Dear finds that Jason's vehicle has in fact been sold. He begins to make inquiries about buying it himself from the new owner. If he can do that, he says, he can then submit the Jeep to state-of-the-art, scientific retrieval techniques in the hope that maybe, just maybe, after all these years, there's still something in it that Dear says should be there:

The blood of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.

Bill Dear is not the first to suggest that Jason Lamar Simpson, O.J's son by his first wife, might have committed the famous murders of June 12, 1994. But no one has taken that notion to such lengths.Dear has worked to put together a case against Jason since shortly after the slayings took place. The gumshoe estimates he's spent more than $1 million of his own money in his quest to finger a murderer whose identity is already a foregone conclusion among most thinking people.

But Dear says many people who were completely convinced of O.J. Simpson's guilt have undergone dramatic conversion experiences after reading his recently published, 324-page book, O.J. Is Guilty But Not of Murder.

Admitting that he, too, assumed early on that physical evidence pointed unequivocally to O.J., Dear says he

by Anonymousreply 102August 31, 2014 2:09 PM

Dear is convinced that O.J. visited the crime scene, accounting for the drops of Brown's and Goldman's blood that did show up in his car and at his home. But by the time O.J. arrived, the killer had already gone, Dear believes.

Dear theorizes that the killings were committed by someone Brown knew and would have opened her door to, someone capable of pathological brutality, someone who would have alerted O.J. Simpson to the crime, and someone O.J. would protect from prosecution by risking his own freedom.

He thinks that person is Jason Simpson. And he has found some remarkable circumstantial evidence to back up his story.

Jason testified in a civil deposition -- not made public but obtained by Dear, who provided a copy to New Times -- that he was never interviewed by either the LAPD or the D.A.'s office in the wake of the killings. And post-trial statements by police and prosecutors suggest that Jason was never considered a suspect.

But Dear says law enforcement officials should have known that at the time of the killings, Jason was on probation for assault with a deadly weapon -- he'd attacked a former employer with a knife.

Dear also obtained, by possibly illegal means, confidential hospital records showing that Jason has been treated for a mental disorder that had triggered three suicide attempts as well as sudden, fierce and irrational attacks on other people. Dear writes that Jason attacked two former girlfriends, choking one until friends pulled him away and angrily cutting off the other's hair with a knife.

Jason was said to have an "airtight alibi" for June 12, a statement that was repeated as gospel by prosecutors and the media: the sous-chef had been filling in for his boss, the executive chef at a Westwood restaurant, until after 11 p.m. that night. (The murders probably occurred sometime between 10:15 and 10:40.) Dear has been unable to find the original source of this story. And Jason testified in his deposition that the restaurant, Jackson's, closed early that night, and that he left between 10 and 10:30, when he was picked up by his girlfriend. He said that after dropping his girlfriend off at her home, he went to his apartment alone and watched TV until 3 a.m.

Dear writes that the girlfriend told him she picked Jason up earlier, before 10 p.m. And other Jackson's employees Dear tracked down said Jason left as early as 9:30 p.m.

Jason also testified that he departed from work that night just as he always did, carrying his personal set of chef's knives.

Autopsies showed that Brown and Goldman were killed by a thin, single-edged blade, and Dear solicited help from forensic experts who assured him that a chef's boning knife, for example, would be consistent with the murder weapon -- which has never been found.

And Dear says that Jason, who was 24 at the time, had a reason for being unhappy with his ex-stepmother that night. In his deposition, Jason said he had asked Nicole to bring her family to his restaurant on June 12 following his half sister Sydney's dance recital, an event he was unable to attend because of his job. Nicole agreed, and Jason testified that this pleased him greatly. Dear paints a portrait of Jason as a son who had been only a disappointment to his football-legend father, and who desperately wanted recognition for his own talents as a cook. Jason, according to Dear, looked forward to showing off for Brown and her relatives, and he'd bought special foods to prepare for the night.

But on June 11, Brown changed her plans, telling Jason his restaurant was too far away and too expensive, he testified.

Dear theorizes that after dropping off his girlfriend, Jason went to Brown's Bundy Drive condo to confront her about ruining his big night. Brown's response may have angered Jason -- a man with such a short fuse that he once sliced off a girlfriend's hair with a knife in a jealous rage, according to Dear.

After killing Brown and Goldman -- who had simply walked up at the wrong time -- Jason would have called his father in a state of hysteria, Dear writes. O.J. Simpson, unsure if his trou

by Anonymousreply 103August 31, 2014 2:09 PM

Bill Dear has made his living generating notoriety -- and headlines -- for his unorthodox investigative techniques.He once moved into a murder victim's house, wore his clothes and even slept in his bed, hoping it would help him understand who had wanted the man dead. His work in that case, a 1980s Ohio killing, resulted in the convictions of 11 people. He wrote a book about it, Please...Don't Kill Me, published by Houghton Mifflin.

Dear began his crime-solving career early, bagging his first quarry when he was just a teenager. Riding his bicycle on a paper route, he witnessed a robbery. Pedaling wildly after the perpetrator as he left in a car, Dear followed the man to an address that he then phoned in to the police. Dear's exploits made the local newspaper, and police subsequently protected the boy-hero from intimidation as he continued his paper route while waiting to testify in the ensuing trial.

Dear later became a cop in Florida but left after nine years, in 1965, to become a private investigator. Besides solving murders, Dear has also made news tracking down missing people, including a Michigan State student heavily into Dungeons & Dragons who disappeared into tunnels under the college in 1979. Dear tracked him down in Louisiana and wrote a book about the case, The Dungeon Master.

Like his previous books, OJ Is Guilty But Not of Murder is well written, despite its awkward title. In fact, for a self-published tome, it's downright gripping.

Dear takes readers through his investigation from the beginning, describing how he watched the Simpson saga unfold on television and began having doubts about the prosecution's case. He then describes, step by step, how he took on the case himself and eliminated suspects by examining evidence. And how he eventually settled on Jason as his primary suspect, and then made him the focus of intensive surveillance.

Dear launched his most cinematic -- and questionable -- caper in 1997 when he tried to obtain Jason's confidential medical records from Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. He knew Jason had been a patient there because the hospital had been trying to collect on some overdue bills. So for two weeks, Dear dressed as a doctor and wandered the halls of one of the western United States' most prestigious medical institutions, trying to find a clerk gullible enough to give him a copy of Jason's medical history.

"Each morning I carefully dressed in my white jacket, took my clipboard and punctually made my rounds up and down the halls on the plaza level of the South Tower," writes Dear in his book. "I greeted the security officers at the desk with a smile, bought coffee for the nurses at the commissary and, most importantly, smiled at the file clerks who came and left from the records department."

He didn't wear a name tag or verbally identify himself as a physician. But he ingratiated himself with a thirtysomething records clerk by bringing her flowers and offering to hire her "in my office." A few days later, he got to his bottom line, asking her for copies of "all the records you have on a patient, J. Lamar Simpson."

by Anonymousreply 104August 31, 2014 2:10 PM

The woman complied, telling "Doctor" Dear to return the next day when the copies would be ready. But when Dear did so, he got cold feet, worried that he might be arrested. It's illegal in California to impersonate a doctor and to obtain medical records by fraud. (Both crimes are misdemeanors punishable by up to a year in jail and fines.) Dear says he left the hospital empty-handed.

Prior to Dear's arrival at Cedars-Sinai, he writes, he had dispatched an assistant to case the hospital and try and get hold of Jason's records. The operative apparently put out word that he was willing to pay handsomely for the records but left L.A. without getting them.

The agent's efforts evidently bore fruit, however. After Dear fled Cedars-Sinai, he writes, he returned to his hotel room to discover that a mysterious, unidentified black man had left a "large brown package" for him at the front desk. Inside were Jason's medical papers.

New Times wanted to ask Cedars-Sinai officials about Dear's activities, what measures the hospital may have in place for preventing theft of patients' confidential records and how secure it is against incursions by medical impersonators. A hospital spokeswoman said officials would not discuss Dear, and Cedars-Sinai vice president Grace Cheng later said in a prepared statement that if the hospital determined that patient records had been stolen, it would ask police to investigate.

In the records he obtained, Dear found that besides his behavioral troubles, Jason is an epileptic and takes an anticonvulsant called Depakote for his condition. But that wasn't enough for Dear.

He foraged through Jason's trash for empty Depakote containers he could photograph for his book. He also pulled out various bills and receipts so he could piece together what Jason spent his money on, and retrieved empty tequila bottles hoping he could lift Jason's fingerprints from them. He succeeded in getting some prints, and writes that he planned to ask a Texas forensic specialist, James Cron, to compare the prints from the tequila bottles with those that the LAPD found at the Bundy crime scene.

New Times spoke to Cron, who says that the fingerprints taken from the bottles were of good quality. But, he says, he hasn't been able to match them with any prints from the Bundy scene.

But Cron cautions against making too much of the negative results. The fingerprints from the liquor bottles don't make up a complete set, and even if there had been a match, Cron points out, it could simply mean Jason had left prints at Bundy prior to June 12.

Undaunted, Dear has pressed on, continuing to spy on Jason even though his book has been in print for six months. Dear claims he's so concerned about Jason and his mental state, given the dangerous combination of Depakote and alcohol, that he feels compelled to watch the chef carefully. It's as if Dear thinks he's doing Jason a favor by rifling through his mail, tailing him to various jobs and rooting through his garbage to retrieve such personal items as tortured pages of introspective writing. "I don't mind telling you I have some compassion for this kid," says the private eye.

And he keeps up his pursuit of Jason despite warnings from the investigator's friends that Jason may try to kill him.

Dear isn't worried. "I've had better men than him try," he says.

by Anonymousreply 105August 31, 2014 2:11 PM

I hear what you are saying r88 but the entire history of Black people in this country has been that Black people are not looked at as human. They are still not seen as human for many. It is a reality that generation upon generations of Black people have lived with, so I get that at that moment in time particularly so close to the new century and the perception of Black people is still clearly overwhelmingly a negative one in America that a jury of Black people might be unsympathetic. That is centuries of unexpressed anger and powerlessness. Recent events in the Middle East show us a brutalized people can be as cruel as their brutalizers. It's a gift that keeps giving.

In light of Mr. Furman and his racism being made public and the questionable occurrences in regards to the glove placement and Van Atter carrying that blood vile around all day, it didn't look right. In the middle of the trial I went to a party in LA and there were two attorneys from that prosecutors office there, a lesbian couple. I asked them what they thought. Did he do it? Was he being framed? Their answer was "It is possible for both those things to be true."

by Anonymousreply 106August 31, 2014 2:14 PM

COMPLETELY messing up this attempt to post this article, sorry. Here's the link, it's from Tony Ortega's Village Voice blog.

{see offsite link to www. blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/04/oj_simpson_bill_dear_full_of_it.php}

by Anonymousreply 107August 31, 2014 2:15 PM

Here's Sydney with her bf Robert Blackmon in 2014. Are they still together?

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