Rock Hudson used to have pool parties for young, attractive men

He was the epitome of the hand that Rocks the cradle.

There must be pool parties now with celebs at them.

OP-ask Bryan Singer

The kind of people who get invited to these parties today, are the types who wouldn't leak photos to the press; i.e. closet cases, rentboys, and hangers-on.

Why do you think they live in gated communities and hire guards?

"Or do they have people sign paperwork (which would kind of kill any fun party buzz.)"

Some gossip site said Justin Bieber makes guests at his parties sign confidentiality agreements

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Sounds like his pool parties needed a Chief Officer of Diversity and Inclusion. There are many more types of people in this world than just young, attractive men.

"Sounds like his pool parties needed a Chief Officer of Diversity and Inclusion"

Rock was plenty "inclusive"

[quote]There are many more types of people in this world than just young, attractive men.

Ooooohhhh ... you're funny.

What a world it would be if that were true!

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I can't imagione every single guy at these parties would be a closet case.

Or that somebody wouldn't want to snap a photo.

Cameras back then were gynormous. They were unsneakable. Same thing with microphones.They weren't so micro.

That's why sting operations happened in hotels where a camera, clackety-claking behind a mirror in the next room, could be muffled.

I thought it was George Cukor who had the famous pool parties. Of course in those days before cell-phones and the internet, you had to be in with the in crowd to get invited, and be discreet.

No, Hudson also had his poolside barbecues. And why not? He had every right to.

Smartphones with camera capabilities did not exist in his day or he would have been outed much sooner. Can you imagine some of the escapades that happened 20-30 years ago, if walls could talk.

Seems like Hudson was pretty much an open secret. I wonder if everybody at his less discreet beach house party that was posted here last week know he was gay? He certainly seemed pretty genuinely engaging.

I'd like to see the OP try to hide a 1950s "small" camera in his bathing suit!

And I don't know how worried Hudson was about being outed. He was privately out to some degree, wasn't he? And he paid people to make sure nothing about his real private life was ever published, and they earned their money.

Everyone is equal and open to scrutiny --

all th fun is gone.

"Smartphones with camera capabilities did not exist in his day or he would have been outed much sooner."

Not necessarily. There are plenty of guys who hold similar parties today and pics usually don't leak out.

Maupin describes a pool party at a fictional version of Hudson's house in the '70s in one of the "Tales of the City" books.

I got a little obsessed with Rock a couple of years ago. I finally watched a couple of his movies so I read two biographies of him. Both were really boring and barely touched on his sex live. The third book I read wasn't just about him but was great. The Man Who Invented Rock Hudson. It was a really sleazy book. Hope most of it was true.

I remember r21 -- and Michael, the protagonist, realizes that few of the people there even knew __________.

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Back then, people didn't document these parties. It was not all about sharing on Facebook or twitter or instigram. Celebs were safer and less intruded upon.

Rich homos in Hollywood still have their boy parties

Hudson's guests weren't discrete, everyone in Hollywood knew. Hell, even I'd heard of his "secret" gay life, and I was a teenager who lived in a faraway suburb.

Did Lee ever go to one?

And it appears to be protocol with high-end celebs that guests check their phones at the door. (Isn't that how those nudes of Prince Harry got leaked? His handlers didn't take the phones from the group of girls invited to party with the prince.

Brian Singer and George Clooney must know about those pool parties.

Clooney demanded 'hot bartenders' for his parties at Lake Como.

[quote]Clooney demanded 'hot bartenders' for his parties at Lake Como.

Who was getting those demands? Wasn't he the owner? Didn't he pick the bartenders?

Wasn't it reported that Shemar Moore was hosting these types of pool parties 4 or 5 years ago? But Miss Moore was clever. She'd invite a handful of Fag Hags in bikinis to pad things out.

^ Nah, I just go to gay nude beaches

Who the f*ck is Shemar Moore and why does he think he's famous?

gay nude bitches Shemar at r33.

[quote]Do they have a "check your phone at the door policy" (which would seem impossible to enforce as everybody is always texting, etc.) Or do they have people sign paperwork (which would kind of kill any fun party buzz.)

Lot's of parties do both nowadays.

Hostess: Hello welcome! Now please sign the forms the para-legal has for you before you enter.

R36, Good god man, do you mean to imply that these people give up their phones and talk to eachother do you?

yeah, i find it hard today in 2015 or heck since 2000 that all these hollywood pool parties exist all the time but there is NEVER EVER any proof?....

cell phones confiscated at the door, so called papers signed (would a party of a bunch of people 50,100,200 really stop at the door creating a line signing papers before they get in at some house?) and so on....

i can understand the whole gated private property mansion thing, but what about the hired guards? bartenders, anyone hired wouldn't they have stories to tell and yes, cell phones or whatever they could have on them?

what about i don't know a hidden cell phone in someone's shoes? what about high lens powerful cameras that can zoom and take photos from a hundreds yards away? stuff like that?... unless these parties are very private and spur of the moment, i would think the paps could find out all the time?!..

Now consider the same questions when you're rich, famous and stay in a luxury hotel (double mirrors, cameras in lamps, tvs, in corners of bathrooms).

Here you go. Looks like a party house to me.

Elton John has the right idea, take them out on the high seas!

That is Bel Ami porn star Dolph Lambert on the right wearing shades and the blue shirt.

R38, people at these parties are often closeted or discreet and wouldn't take pictures or out someone else.

R43, other people at these parties are grasping whores who'd do anything for a buck, obviously.

I am kind of surprised more pics don't get out.

R43, not really. They choose their guests carefully

TYPICAL gay male predator

Rock used to invite the Bee Gees to his parties. They wrote a song about him.

Fanny be tender with my fanny

Don't let it be just one of many

But it's over now.

Rock Hudson chatting with Anthony Perkins, 1956.

Do you think that something happened, between them? Personally, i doubt it. They were probably both exclusively tops, so i don't believe that there was sexual chemistry between them. I also think that they both had a preference for blond men.

Rock Hudson used to grope the Asian houseboys at my friend's place in HK.

Sluts Motto at [R8]

Was friends with an older man in Sedona AZ, who said he was a contract player at one of the the majors, which I presumed was Universal, since he added he'd had a 6-months affair with John Hodiak. When I asked him about Cukor's pool parties, he pointed out that no one who had any ambitions could afford to be seen at them, because word about them would be all over town by the next day, and their career would be over.

That was in the late 40's.

r50 It still happens. A few years ago I was dating an attorney from New Orleans with A-List friends, and we attended a gay swim party while I was ther. A well-known actor from Hollywood, who was part of their little group, and in town for the week, was invited. He told the host he give his right arm to come, but he couldn't risk being seen or having his picture taken at the party. I thought by the time he's not so famous, the fun will be over. I guess that's the price they pay for their careers. Said though it's still happening in the 21st century.

r51 ther = there. Sorry.

At the gay guest house Colours in Key West in 1986 there was an arranged poolside orgy for a famous actor houseguest. A few weeks later it was still the talk of the resort, but no one would devulge the actor's name.

A little tidbit from one of the biographies of Rock (Sara Davidson?) was that Mama Michelle Phillips showed up at one of Rock's male parties and when she was informed what was going on laughed and said "Oh yeah, I have thrown a few of these parties for myself."

Of course they check their phones. I saw a clip last week on an entertainment show that said, at super exclusive clubs and parties, they leave them out front or in their cars. It's an entrance requirement.

I used to know a guy that was Roland Emmerich's houseboy and he got whatever he needed to live on when he asked for it. They would throw parties at his house that you are describing. Houseboy would invite all of his young friends over too so you get the drift....

R41 that's also former professional tennis player Jan-Michael Gambill far left. Glass closet these days I think.

I'd love to have put his big cock in my mouth.

Hudson was a big phony. I would not want a man like that. No, thanks! It's nice looking at his photos and watching his movies, because he was very handsome, but i certainly don't appreciate characters like his.

Given that homosexuality was a hard labor criminal offense back then and would destroy any career instantly if the public found out, the Hollywood bunch had to keep it secret. There were a few gossip rags that would publish gay rumors, unless the studios or actors paid them not to. So, the only pictures taken would have been staged ones. Many years ago, there was one small gay bar in my town. You had to know where it was and be known to get in there. One night a patron decided to bring in one of those huge old cameras with the huge flash. He didn't get to take any pictures and was lucky to get out of there alive. That's life in the shadows.

Golden Age directors James Whale and George Cukor had all male pool parties. It would be interesting to know who attended, besides the street trade.

Everyone with a pool, some money/fame/influence/studio affiliation throws parties. It has been going on long before Rock (See James Whale) and will go on long after you and I are gone. I knew a guy who attended Rock's pool parties back in the day. To look at it from a distance, it was just a sunny day in Bev Hills with kids frolicking in the pool. When you wandered into the house, though, you might find yourself in a smoky room where deals with the devil were being made. Procurers (those who knew the stars and curried favor with them) knew by sight who would willingly go to so and so's party, and who would be willing to go but wouldn't be willing to put out for career purposes. The latter group didn't get to go. But they kept their dignity.

OP's headline makes it sound like something you would say in hushed tones over at the Church Ladies' Luncheon. When did people on this site become so Victorian.

r63 I think the thread title fits the tone of that era.

Gays should learn to respect each other, R63, and i don't think that can happen at those kind of parties. I'm afraid that i'm more objective than prejudiced.

[quote]When did people on this site become so Victorian.

In 2014, if the date of this post is any indication.

r50, More on John Hodiak, please! That's the most interesting thing in the thread!

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These type of parties rely on the feel of exclusiveness like entering a VIP section. Once you like it you will be more willing to obey the rules (don't tell outsiders what's going on around here or you will go back being an outsider!). But it also creates this foul stench of paranoia and witchhunts where ambitious social climbers accuse each other of breaking the rules in order to gain favor with the "Queen Bee" or "Leader of the Pack".

There is a very "Mean Girls" inner circle vibe at these events where people fight each other to "sit at the cool kids' table" and in a lot of cases the "cool kids" enjoy the fights over them.

Why don't disgruntled jealous queens share more about what's going on at these parties? Like closeted stars who had a big career once hope to make a comeback again, these disgruntled jealous queens hope to get back into the inner circle one day and fear that might not happen when their blabbling gets traced back to them.

[quote]The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!

I would imagine phones are taken at the door and all the boys are frisked thoroughly (insert joke here; insert joke about inserting joke here).

There's more in it for them if they keep silent and guys are probably vetted very carefully.

Despite all the social media there are worlds of stuff going on we'll never know about.

Actually, R47, from all accounts Rock was a bottom.

[quote]Rock Hudson used to have pool parties for young, attractive men

OMFG! A news flash, from 1972!

Men, to your Pacers, Gremlins, and Vegas! STAT!

So what kind of guys were at these parties? I want to know specifically what they looked like. My guess is that they were FAR more attractive than what's usually described as such here on DL. In other words, NOT the old overmuscled orange skinned types. Probably lean young normal looking guys. If so, I'm glad someone was having some fun back in the day.

Fun my ass.

No cell phones or social media. Newspapers would not publish such pictures back then...because they would get in trouble with TPTB at the studio. Also people were allowed to have a private life so secrets would be kept for celebrities unless some public scandal made that impossible.

I think Rock also invited some women to his parties so it wasn't so obvious about what was going on.

I'd just like a house with a pool and the money to hire bartenders and a caterer. Dream big, huh?

OP, you ignorant bag of steaming cuntmatter, whenever I throw a party I have a 'no phone' policy. If people can't accept to be away from their goddamn fucking phones for a couple hours, then I tell them to fuck off to cuntshit.

Only in your pathetic piece of faggotry do people panic and freak out when they cannot text every few minutes. Please kill yourself, as one less faggot in the world will not matter.

Coughing up a hairball.

r77 is coming down of his holiday meth run, I guess. Hon, have a Gatorade and a banana!

It's strange that some people are so surprised by the thought of gay, same-sex naked pool parties in Hollywood's past. It was a small community and the gay community was even smaller. It was impossible to date or be seen in public together, especially if someone's sexuality was whispered about, so they would meet in private homes or other places hidden from public view. As much as a lot of old gossip has surfaced, you know there's plenty more which hasn't. (And probably never will, given such things as Rodney McDowell's diaries being locked away.) Also surprising, is how people don't think parties such as these still don't happen today among certain circles. Despite homosexuality being more accepted, there are still plenty of men who are closeted and don't want their sexuality to be made public.

[quote]And I don't know how worried Hudson was about being outed.

My 8th grade english teacher met him and his boyfriend on a boat, in 1978. They were very out, and she was very nonplussed.

Things were getting more open/accepting then, right before the reagan years and HIV struck.

I just saw the video at R 40. Modern day queens giving a tour of the joint. You keep expecting them to trip over the ossified corpse of a forgotten rentboy from the 70s.

Ooh, R77 is the psycho who loses his shit over stupid things! I mentioned him in a thread about DLers we dislike, but I haven't seen him in a while.

[quote]Given that homosexuality was a hard labor criminal offense back then and would destroy any career instantly if the public found out, the Hollywood bunch had to keep it secret. There were a few gossip rags that would publish gay rumors, unless the studios or actors paid them not to.

Don't you love when people like R59 judge people's choices from 2 generations ago based on current day politics and morals ?

R84, you don't make sense, but i guess you cannot comprehend that.

R84, whether or not you agree with him, makes complete sense, and anyone who finds his statement irrational may have to be considered the confused one...

Ok, let me tell you this.

The different generation excuse is lame. Rock was a big hypocrite and that has nothing to do with the generation he was in. Can't you get it? He put at risk his boyfriend (and i suspect too many other one-night stands he may had at that time) when he kept on fucking them, even when he learned about his AIDS condition.

Do straight celebs have sex parties? Are they ashamed by not leaking, dribble-feeding them to us periodically?

R87. I agree Rock Hudson put many at risk by his non disclosure, until the last moment.

However I hate the tiresome refrain he was a hypocrite and IT WAS A DIFFERENT GENERATION.

Just like their is a BC and AD for Christ. There is a BR ( before Rock) and AR (after Rock).

Before Rock came out, you could count on your fingers how many minor stars were out, in some cases they came out because they were outed by tabloids, like George Nader or perhaps Tab Hunter. But until Rock there were few people who said anything. Even Liberace did not come out .

Guys, including celebrities, put their sex partners in danger (by not disclosing their HIV, or other STDs, status) back then as they do now. Things haven't changed in that regard. What has changed is Hollywood giving this fake impression that it's a lot gay friendlier as it is.

[quote]Even Liberace did not come out .

Coming out was not really an option for Liberace. He had successfully sued a London newspaper for libel in the 1950s when its cultural critic wrote a scathing review in which he implied that Liberace was a homosexual. Liberace denied being homosexual in a court of law. The paper could have sued him to restore the settlement awarded him plus damages had he ever admitted perjuring himself in the libel case.

[quote]He had successfully sued a London newspaper for libel in the 1950s when its cultural critic wrote a scathing review in which he implied that Liberace was a homosexual.

I believe George Michael sued, or threatened to sue, Boy George for saying that he was gay in the 90s. George Michael still came out later and it didn't hurt him one bit (well, except all the drug related shenanigans).

There are plenty of hi definition graphic very exciting and dirty pics of today's Hollywood raucous pool parties filled with gorgeous young male starlettes.

r46

Figures

Tell us OP, do you film, document your own orgies ?

R87 You have to realize that we knew very little about the disease in the mid eighties. Rock didn't give his boyfriend AIDS. People forget that Marc sued the estate because Rock MAY have exposed him and this caused him emotional distress. Truth be told, it was a money grab because he wasn't in the will and he was pissed! Marc tested negative and was clean the rest of his life. Also Rock died very soon after he found out he had AIDS and he DID publicly reveal his condition.

R87 also in 1984 it was believed that you got AIDS from kissing or being sneezed on/near someone infected. So, when Marc said he was "exposed to the disease" his lawyers argued that it included proximity exposure not just anal. Which was a valid argument at the time. Also testing was really sketchy. False negatives were common as were false positives. The technology wasn't there. Plus Rock's doctors first thought he had cancer so they weren't looking in the right place to determine why he was getting so sick. It happened alot in those days.

I'll shut up now.