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Cher Hated 'If I Could Turn Back Time' At First

"The song she really hated was 'If I Could Turn Back Time,' but I held her leg down during a session and said, 'You have to record it!' "

To which Cher responded, according to Diane Warren, "'Fuck you, bitch! You're hurting my leg! OK, I'll try it.' She gave me this look like, 'You were right.' If you look at Cher's song history, she's not always the best judge of her own material. I mean, she hated 'I Got You Babe.'"

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by Anonymousreply 57July 11, 2021 3:14 PM

Bitchy comment: Cher - I just don't get it.

Wise reply: Number one hits in each of the last six decades. Every one else gets it.

by Anonymousreply 1July 23, 2014 8:18 PM

"Cher Hated 'If I Could Turn Back Time'"

Because Cher's vast experiences confirmed that only surgeons can do that.

by Anonymousreply 2July 23, 2014 8:32 PM

She has said that she also hates "that Jesse James song". It is one that I have always enjoyed.

by Anonymousreply 3July 23, 2014 8:36 PM

But she's right - If I Could Turn Back Time is a truly terrible song, as is everything that Diane Warren wrote. Schlock for the masses.

by Anonymousreply 4July 23, 2014 8:45 PM

Tina said the same thing about What's Love Got to Do With It. She thought it was dentist-office-level album filler.

Unfortunately, after that song became a huge hit, she filled her next few albums with similar sounding tracks that were, indeed, dentist-office-level.

by Anonymousreply 5July 23, 2014 8:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 6July 23, 2014 8:51 PM

I agree with R4.

Never a favorite of mine.

OTOH, We All Sleep Alone was brilliant.

Not a huge fan of Cher's 80s material.

by Anonymousreply 7July 23, 2014 8:54 PM

I don't know who wrote it, but one of my favorite Cher songs is "Strong Enough."

I've seen her do it live several times. It's great.

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by Anonymousreply 8July 23, 2014 9:15 PM

'If I could turn back tiiiimmmme, I would date a fetus'

by Anonymousreply 9July 23, 2014 9:38 PM

Dianne Warren has had unmemorable hit after unmemorable hit!

by Anonymousreply 10July 23, 2014 9:42 PM

I mean, it is a horrible song. But, it is also an enormously successful song, so good thing she didn't turn it down.

by Anonymousreply 11July 23, 2014 9:45 PM

Never got Cher either.

by Anonymousreply 12July 23, 2014 10:45 PM

I hated it then and I hate it now. Can't she just go away to an old folks home already?

by Anonymousreply 13July 23, 2014 10:51 PM

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by Anonymousreply 14July 23, 2014 11:06 PM

It just goes to show she's never known shit about music and has no ear for what is a "hit".

by Anonymousreply 15July 23, 2014 11:22 PM

You're my soulmate, r9.

by Anonymousreply 16July 23, 2014 11:29 PM

I didn't hate it at first. I began hating it after it was played on the radio some 5000 times.

by Anonymousreply 17July 23, 2014 11:34 PM

Always loved the song and pretty much most of the songs Diane Warren wrote, but I don't doubt that some of the song's success came from the controversy surrounding the video at the time.

by Anonymousreply 18July 24, 2014 12:05 AM

I love the song too, R18. We are surrounded by uptight bitches, as usual.

by Anonymousreply 19July 24, 2014 12:17 AM

Shiteous song.

by Anonymousreply 20July 24, 2014 12:24 AM

What a weird and kind of wonderful phenomena is Cher. I am honestly not a fan, have never owned a recording by her and have never seen her in concert.

But she was once so unusually beautiful, and her less than great voice has held up pretty well. My mother told me that Cher was the most exciting beauty of the the seventies and the anti-Streisand. Cher worked hard to be good, but not at the expense of being entertaining and free. She was always it seems, kind of cool.

She sounds like Elvis and too much time has made her look and mannerisms a draggy joke. But she is old school show biz, holding on tight while riding any wave that keeps her in the light. I dig her, but can't listen to her sing for long. I do love Walking in Memphis. I have terrible Cher taste. I guess she does too.

Ray Charles and Cher. She's gorgeous and not terrible. Her epitaph.

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by Anonymousreply 21July 24, 2014 5:34 AM

I loved the video at the time. Almost everyone I knew was dying or dead. All those phallic symbols, and SAILORS! Talking about it was as close as I felt I could get to another gay man. and we all talked about it.

by Anonymousreply 22July 24, 2014 5:49 AM

Love, love, love Cher. In my book she's queen of the universe.

I've seen her in concert a half a dozen times. She puts on a show like no other. Her voice is quite good and it's held up--still strong and powerful. And she's gorgeous. She's old-school show business--disciplined, dedicated and gives her fans what they want. The crowds who go to see her, love her. She continues to fill arena after arena throughout the country.

I just saw Cher's current "Dressed to Kill" tour in San Diego two weeks ago. It was pretty fucking spectacular--and so was she. The crowd ran the gamut from young to old. She's an awesome performer.

See Cher before you die. She's a show business original--and still better than any of the crop of youngsters on the scene today. There's nobody like her. As Cher once said, "Take that, bitches."

by Anonymousreply 23July 24, 2014 5:50 AM

Ernestine (Lily Tomlin) Gossips with Cher

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by Anonymousreply 24July 24, 2014 5:58 AM

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by Anonymousreply 25July 24, 2014 6:00 AM

Cher belongs in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. And for that matter so does Sonny & Cher.

What the Christ is wrong with those people?!

by Anonymousreply 26July 24, 2014 6:03 AM

Classic, gorgeous, strong--it's all Cher--and my all-time favorite:

Cher - The Way Of Love

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by Anonymousreply 27July 24, 2014 6:08 AM

Cher sings ballads so well; I wish she sang more of them.

Another great one: Cher - After All

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by Anonymousreply 28July 24, 2014 6:14 AM

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by Anonymousreply 29July 24, 2014 6:29 AM

The isn't that bad IMO.

Plus, it has one of the most memorable videos ever.

Who will ever forget Cher in that super skimpy piece of floss, the screaming sailors or Cher straddling those canons ?

by Anonymousreply 30July 24, 2014 6:51 AM

R21

I thought Cher was just gorgeous, especially in the 70s.

She wasn't a perfect sort of beauty but when you added all her parts together it just worked.

She also had a body that was beyond compare. She wore those Mackie gowns well when they'd have looked OTT on somebody else.

by Anonymousreply 31July 24, 2014 8:36 AM

I really hate If I Could Turn Back Time and What's Love Got To Do With It. Revolting songs.

by Anonymousreply 32July 24, 2014 8:43 AM

Cher and Sonny&Cher should definitely be in the RRHF.

If for no other reason than the fact that Cher is the only artist to have a #1 hit in 5 different decades.

I've heard it mentioned she'll never get in because Jann hates her for some reason.

He should not have a right to refusal clause or what not.

by Anonymousreply 33July 24, 2014 8:53 AM

[quote]I've seen her in concert a half a dozen times. She puts on a show like no other. Her voice is quite good and it's held up--still strong and powerful. etc. etc.

Gay guys are always elevating the performer above the material. I like Cher, she seems cool. But she's never recorded a good, well-written song in her life, except maybe (to be generous) the hits with Sonny. She's only recorded forgettable fluff. That's why she's not in the RRHF.

by Anonymousreply 34July 24, 2014 4:14 PM

I love that song as well as Just Like Jesse James (also by D Warren), Love On The rooftop (By Diane Warren, Desmond child) originally written for & recorded by Ronnie Spector which of course failed to chart as almost every song that Ronnie Spector has recorded as a solo artist, though later they become cult songs. Those three songs appear on Cher´s heart Of Stone album which is by far my all time favorite Cher album. Those pre-Believe years, the power ballads were great !

by Anonymousreply 35August 11, 2014 5:38 AM

Cher should be in the rock & roll hall Of fame, she sure deserves it.-

by Anonymousreply 36August 11, 2014 5:42 AM

How in the hell is Vadge in the R&R Hall of Fame when she's a pop/dance singer, but Cher who was actually known for her rock records in the 80's and early 90's isn't?

Just goes to show what a joke these "honors" are.

by Anonymousreply 37August 11, 2014 5:46 AM

Cher hated 'Dark Lady' as well. Funny, since she passed on 'Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia' only for fear she'd alienate Southern fans.

by Anonymousreply 38August 11, 2014 9:01 AM

If she had declined "Believe" she'd be living in a condo in Encino.

by Anonymousreply 39August 12, 2014 3:29 PM

The Pentagon was not pleased that the Public Affairs officer on the battleship Missouri gave permission for the video to be filmed on the ship.

by Anonymousreply 40August 14, 2014 3:26 AM

If I Could Turn Back Time and What’s Love Got To Do With It shaped my idea of what strong women were.

by Anonymousreply 41July 11, 2021 4:07 AM

[quote]'If I could turn back tiiiimmmme, I would date a fetus'

If I could turn back tiiiimmmme, I wouldn't need Botox

"Sonny would be alive"

"Chaz would still be a girl"

"I woulda told Gregg no"

Take your pick.

by Anonymousreply 42July 11, 2021 4:10 AM

I always thought she was more interesting as an actress than a singer. Ageing out and a frozen face mean she won't be offered roles, except maybe playing herself.

by Anonymousreply 43July 11, 2021 4:17 AM

She really isn't artist is she? She seems to just do music for money and not to make any type of statement. She isn't really a vocal powerhouse either. I do like her a lot as an actress. Her biggest talent is looking good and being a celebrity.

by Anonymousreply 44July 11, 2021 4:20 AM

[quote] How in the hell is Vadge in the R&R Hall of Fame when she's a pop/dance singer, but Cher who was actually known for her rock records in the 80's and early 90's isn't?

Because Madonna's influence on music and pop culture is too huge to deny. Same reason Michael Jackson and NWA are in the hall of fame. They really should just rename it to Pop Music Hall of Fame or something.

by Anonymousreply 45July 11, 2021 4:23 AM

“Because Madonna's influence on music and pop culture is too huge to deny.”

Madonna fans keep saying that but what they fail to explain is what that alleged “influence” really is beyond hypersexualizing female performers, What “impact” on music has she had?

by Anonymousreply 46July 11, 2021 4:27 AM

I actually think Janet had a bigger influence in terms of choreography and visuals than Madonna. I think Madonna's influence was mixing high culture with low culture and mixing commercial with avant-garde, she didn't create anything but she brought a lot of subcultures to the mainstream. TLC and Alanis Morisette are also influential. Cher, I like her as a person but she had not much of an influence on music besides popularizing autotune in the late 90s.

by Anonymousreply 47July 11, 2021 4:34 AM

Is Alanis in the Hall of Fame?

by Anonymousreply 48July 11, 2021 4:39 AM

[quote] "'Fuck you, bitch! You're hurting my leg!

Crap song, but I kinda love hearing Cher say this out loud in my head.

by Anonymousreply 49July 11, 2021 7:01 AM

Irony.

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by Anonymousreply 50July 11, 2021 12:29 PM

[quote] she's not always the best judge of her own material.

Or husbands

by Anonymousreply 51July 11, 2021 12:44 PM

If I could turn back time, I would date a fetus.

by Anonymousreply 52July 11, 2021 1:59 PM

R52 meet r9

by Anonymousreply 53July 11, 2021 2:05 PM

It's the best Cher song that was written by a sexless Aspie!

by Anonymousreply 54July 11, 2021 2:39 PM

I despise Diane Warren. Cunt of the highest order.

by Anonymousreply 55July 11, 2021 2:44 PM

I had to wonder when Janbot would chime in about that washed up rugburn in a thread that wasn't about her. Thanks for showing up at R47!

by Anonymousreply 56July 11, 2021 2:57 PM

I wonder what Cher and Diane thought about Luke Evans overwrought version

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by Anonymousreply 57July 11, 2021 3:14 PM
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