Grease 2

I was molested.

Why does my mean sister always say that?

Where does the pollen go?

It's so bad it can only be tolerated in small doses, YouTube clips, to appreciate any camp value it has. Some movies aren't "so bad they're good," some are just so bad they're really, really, really bad.

We're gonna score tonight, we're gonna score tonight.

We're gonna rock, we're gonna roll,

We're gonna bop, we're gonna bowl.

We're gonna score, score, score, score, score tonight!

What if Liza had played Lorna's role? How would the movie have been different?

God, that question might deserve its own thread.

As many flops as Liza has had she wouldn't intentionally take a slumming role from the outset.

It's a fun movie, but beware OP. This place is filled with old hissers who can't stand it. (R4 was the vaguely polite version of what's to come.)

Michelle Pfeiffer is ashamed of it now but at the time it was a good career move for her.

Thanks for warning me, R8 , but this isn't my first time at the rodeo.

I know how bitchy fags can be.

I'm a fighter and I've painted my nails Jungle Red!

Bitch, you asked a question, do you think the movie is a camp classic. How bizarre that you're so thin-skinned, and invested in the idea it is, that you can't deal with any disagreement.

R10, we've never seen a red jungle so STFU.

Maxwell Caulfield is gorgeous in it.

It was frustrating that Lorna got to belt out only one line while Michelle Pfeiffer received numerous solos.

This movie has always been a guilty pleasure of mine. And, yes, Maxwell Caulfield was gorgeous.

Was R11 directed at me/OP?

How funny. I am hardly thin-skinned. I am happy to read all kinds of posts.

I think that R11 should see more campy movies to understand the irony behind my post at R10.

God, did R11 really miss the references? If so, he should have his DL membership suspended and be forced to take a DL-authorized course in gay pop culture in order to be re-instated.

It was better than he first!

I thought it sucked donkey balls when it came out. It was not in the same league with Grease and still isn't. The years might have made some of the awfulness more bearable since the actors are all quite a bit older now and they were young and fresh in this (except Lorna, that old slag. Just kidding. She actually has TALENT!). Everything about it wreaked of "Let's cash in on Grease but use none of the original cast (except, I think, Didi Conn?), none of the quality of the original music and pretend that this steaming pile of horse excrement is a classic! It bombed (or underperformed) upon the initial release and rightfully so. Those songs are SOOO bad. Even all these years later.

Michelle has never been ashamed of it. She admits it wasn't the great but she never has been ashamed of it. She talks pretty kindly about the movie.

[quote]As many flops as Liza has had she wouldn't intentionally take a slumming role from the outset.

But it wasn't slumming. It was a sequel to the most successful movie musical of all time. However it turned out, it was still considered at the time, a first rate release opening in major theatres like New York's Ziegfeld Theater in NY and Mann's Chinese in LA.

Michelle has never been ashamed of it. She admits it wasn't the great but she never has been ashamed of it. She talks pretty kindly about the movie.

Graham Norton asked her about it when she was on his show, and she said don't make me talk about it.

[quote]Michelle Pfeiffer is ashamed of it now but at the time it was a good career move for her.

Actually, she's not. Maybe earlier, but she has a sense of humor about it now.

Cher had signed on for Paulette (Lorna's role), but bailed when there was no completed script. Jennifer Beals was cast as well but bailed for Flashdance.

The movie was originally conceived as a vehicle for Andy Gibb by Robert Stigwood and was titled Son of Grease. The movie's start date was supposed to be closer to 1979/80, but Gibb's drug problems were starting spiral out of control. His follow up album to Shadow Dancing, After Dark was supposed to be released in late summer of 1979, and the movie was going to get in gear then. After Dark ended up being released in spring 1980 and a lot of the album is Barry, not Andy, singing.

Andy's screentest was a disaster and by that time, his and the Bee Gee's popularity had waned. Also, the Gibb brothers were about to sue RSO records.

R22, are you from eastern Washington state or western Idado by any chance?

I've tried to watch it twice, but found it so PAINFULLY bad that I couldn't hang in there. It's awful, and the musical numbers are embarrassing.

I know people who find it a guilty pleasure, but they were all small children when it came out on VHS, or DVD, and not really at the age of any sort of discernment, in my opinion.

Those hairstyles, make-up, and costumes are about as era-appropriate as those in "Happy Days". I couldn't even watch that whole musical clip!

Mr. Stuart, is it true, that guys like you, you know, mature and all, carry some protection with them for SEXUAL Occccccasions?

[quote]Idado

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Grease 2 is not nearly as bad as the Footloose remake.

Why "???", R27.

Love the film. I saw it before I saw Grease so I only judged it on its merits.

Peter Frechette who played one of the T-Birds is openly gay. I wondered if he rather Let's Do It for Our Country was a duet with Caulfield.

Great movie. Better score than grease. Fun. Adrian zmed is hot!

Every time someone mentions Grease 2, I begin to sing "I'll be your girl for all seasons, baaa baaa baaa, baaa, baaa, baaa ..."

Then you're one of my girls R32!

I loved it when I was a kid. It was on continuous repeats on HBO one summer...The songs are ridiculous- even as I kid I knew it sucked...but soooo addiciting...

loved the bowling song--- lets bowl! lets bowl! lets rock n roll? really...

and yes girl for all seasons...

classic. I remember thinking Michelle was so gorgeous and cool. But Lorna to me she looked 40 years old...

Idado r23?

A few years back, I saw a drag version of A Girl for All Seasons. I LOVED it.

Poor Maureen Teefy. "Scavenger Hunt", Grease 2", "Supergirl", only interrupted by "Fame", and then..... no more Maureen Teefy. I imagine she thought she would be a very busy film actress for awhile there.....and she almost was.

Teefy did Fame first I think. She actually went to Julliard. Her career really didn't work out as she had planned I bet.

Greae 2 was absolutely HORRID

r39 has a firm grasp of what has already been said for decades

Not according to R30 and R31.

I'll second that, R39. As other posters have said, the film is merely bad and not in a fun way.

Sequels to musicals never work. They miscalculated on the timing of this one. All the young people who loved the original had grown four years older and four years more mature. The sequel reminded high school seniors of being in eighth grade and it reminded either graders of being in elementary school. Everyone saw it as "kid stuff" and all were embarrassed to be reminded how much they had liked a musical.

I was twelve when Grease came out. The double vinyl album was the omnipresent soundtrack of junior high. Kids my age bought it by the millions, danced in the gym to it, roller skated to it, played it on the jukebox, and sang along with the movie when we saw it on the big screen. It was inescapable. And, oh yes, the title number was blaring and unabashedly disco.

Four years later it was instantly understood by everyone that no one wanted to re-visit that phenomenon of our adolescence. Disco was dead, Travolta was a joke, and no one wanted more Grease.

[quote]It was frustrating that Lorna got to belt out only one line while Michelle Pfeiffer received numerous solos.

I'm certain that that wasn't Michelle singing.

I liked seeing the painted-on jeans that the guys wore--particularly the ones that hugged DL legend Christopher McDonald's shapely hips and bubble butt.

Lorna was way too old to be in this movie.

you may be certain, r43, but you're also wrong. she is well-known to have sang all of her own songs in the film. did you see The Fabulous Baker Boys? The woman has serious pipes. Besides, the songs in G2 are fluff…nothing too hard for someone with even a passable voice.

Pfeiffer doesn't have "serious pipes." Her singing was merely passing in BAKER BOYS. She was supposed to be this fabulous singer who was slumming it in lounges, but you wouldn't know that if the extras in the scene were not directed to applaud loudly for her. It was hard to suspend disbelief because Pfeiffer was mediocre.

Furthermore, you think Madonna didn't have the voice for EVITA? Listen to Pfeiffer's demo tracks sometime. She was cast initially cast in Oliver Stone's second attempt (the first attempt with Meryl Streep, also another mediocre singer, fell through years earlier).

R47, that's interesting - I didn't know she did demos for Evita. I'd say she's good for an "actress-turned-singer" but not vocally gifted.

Hands down, I think this was one of the worst sequels ever made.

Just watched it again this weekend. I have always found it entertaining. Some of the songs are great fun. Others---not so much. Pfeiffer is smokin' hot, Caulfield is the epitome of the "dreamy" teen idol, Zmed is hot and funny as is McDonald(love him!). Loved seeing Connie Stevens, her hair(all 300 pounds of it!) and Tab Hunter. Lorna is talented and is only 29-30, but comes off matronly,as always. Still, it's a mindless bit of fun. I would like to know the details on why Pfeiffer and Caulfield disliked each other so much.

[quote]Pfeiffer doesn't have "serious pipes." Her singing was merely passing in BAKER BOYS.

Let me translate, even though there are all kinds of singing voices, from Dylan and Joplin to Pavarotti and Streisand, R47 is a prissy theater queen who thinks if someone can't stand on the edge of a stage belt to the balcony, they can't sing.

Joey: I like blue.

Lorna: I, like, blew.

The Pink Ladies pledge

To act coooool,

To look coooool,

And to beeee cool...

Till death do us part:

Think Pink!

Adrian Zmed is like a walking erection in this movie. He is unbelievably sexy is his tight pegged black jeans and his black leather jacket. And he moves beautifully--he was a great dancer.

The movie is otherwise really awful, though, except for Pfeiffer.

Any film that showcases the delicious Maxwell Caulfield in skintight leather pants gets a thumbs up from me.

Grease 2 IS a camp classic.

He's lookin' for a rumble and some heads are gonna bust!

He's gonna take a tumble with one solitary thrust!

The only thing you guys are gonna do is eat his dust!

Brad...

GREASE 2 should have been about Danny and Sandy starving to death while stuck in a flying car that neither of them knows how to land.

Like R42 wrote, Grease was a cultural phenomenon in 1978. The entire summer was filled with the singles released off the soundtrack. My mom and my friends' mothers loved the 1950s vibe since it reminded them of their teen years. We all went to the movie over and over again that whole summer. Everyone played the soundtrack at parties or you'd hear it coming from the window of the neighbor kids.

Grease 2 was an obvious step down in talent and quality of the music. None of us bothered to go see it. I do remember when it ran all summer on HBO one year. We all talked about Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell Caufield as standing out in an otherwise terrible film. And we all made fun of C-O-O-L-R-I-D-E-R.

I prefer it to the original. But then I grew up seeing it every other day on HBO.

Watched it this weekend, and have so many questions:

1. Why was Frenchi still in high school. She said she came back after dropping out of beauty school but the movie takes place like 2 or 3 years later?

2. Speaking of Frenchie, why does she only appear in like the first 15 minutes of the movie, never seen again?? And if she was still a Pink Lady, why wasn’t she with them? She says to Michael, (Maxwell Caulfield), about Pfeiffer’s character (Stephanie), that she’s one of her best friends, yet they’re never together.

3. What did Michael see in Stephanie, other than her “beauty?” She was dumb as a box of hair and trashy. He could have done so much better.

4. Those twin girls are the Sagal sisters, younger sisters to Katie Sagal. They had their own awful series in the 80s called “Double Trouble” I think. (Not a question just an observation).

5. Why were there so many Italian surnames?

6. What happened to the Frosty Palace? Why didn’t they go there anymore?

7. How old was Craterface, and why was he always creeping around high school kids?

8. Could Maxwell Caulfield have been any dreamier? Jesus what a beautiful specimen of a man.

Michelle Pfeiffer may speak kindly about the movie now, but she sure seemed embarrassed at the time. In certain places she seems to be edging as close to the edge of the scene as possible.

[quote] 1. Why was Frenchi still in high school. She said she came back after dropping out of beauty school but the movie takes place like 2 or 3 years later?

Often when people drop out for a year or two they come back to finish rather than take the GED. But they keep a low profile.

[quote] 2. Speaking of Frenchie, why does she only appear in like the first 15 minutes of the movie, never seen again?? And if she was still a Pink Lady, why wasn’t she with them? She says to Michael, (Maxwell Caulfield), about Pfeiffer’s character (Stephanie), that she’s one of her best friends, yet they’re never together.

They're best friends at a distance, sort of like Kelly Osbourne and Amy Winehouse.

[quote] 3. What did Michael see in Stephanie, other than her “beauty?” She was dumb as a box of hair and trashy. He could have done so much better.

Well, let's be honest: high school students aren't know for their depth. But obviously, as a rider that's cool, he wanted a passenger that's cool: and who is cooler than the queen of the Pink Ladies? Remember, she took a pledge to act cool, to dress cool and to BE cool.

[quote] 5. Why were there so many Italian surnames?

It takes place in an Italian-American settled suburb of Los Angeles, obviously.

[quote] 6. What happened to the Frosty Palace? Why didn’t they go there anymore?

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot!

[quote] 7. How old was Craterface, and why was he always creeping around high school kids?

Age could not wither him nor custom stale his infinite variety. Also, guys like Craterface always hang around high school girls as long as they can.

[quote] 8. Could Maxwell Caulfield have been any dreamier? Jesus what a beautiful specimen of a man.

No. He was gorgeous.

Tab Hunter owned this movie

Michelle Pfeiffer recalls her 'total fluke' Grease 2 audition...

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[quote] would like to know the details on why Pfeiffer and Caulfield disliked each other so much.

How do you know they didn't?