Gabriel Carteris

Gabrielle and Shannon Doherty didn't get along at all.

During the run of 90210 Shannen was the only cast member NOT invited to her wedding.

At the time Gabrielle said she invited the people that she loved.

She was forty three when they started filming 90210.

Gabriel? Did she have a sex change?

In only know one person who liked this actress when 90120 was popular -- it was one of our secretaries at work, and she's dead.

Gabriel is dead, r4?

I liked her on 90210--I was the brainy nerd in high school, so I identified with her.

Is she even 5'2"?

[quote]The Gabriel Caters Fanclub

So you like his food, OP?

She was 29 when 90210 started, not 43 or even 33.

R9 That's the fake age she gives out. It's been rumored that she was forty three when she started that first season.

She was born in 1961.

R10, don't be stupid. She really was 29. She has a twin brother, and I've often wondered if he's as bottom heavy as she used to be. When 90210 started, she had the classic, thick gymnast body (she used to be a gymnast).

She supposedly auditioned for the Brenda role, but she was rightly cast as Ahhhndrea. She made a brief appearance in Brian DePalma's RAISING CAIN during her run on 90210.

Gabrielle definitively had a gymnast body in 90210.

I wonder if she's still bitter about not having a 90210 doll made of Ondrea. I know I'd be!

I remember she made a TV movie with David Charvet as her hubby who gets seduced by a cougar. Was the cougar Susan Lucci?

She couldn't even have periods anymore!

OLD

Ahhhndrea was one of the least favorite characters among viewers during 90210's run. I liked the friendship between Ahhhndrea and Brandon.

Whatever happened to Andrea?

She died of old age part way through Season 5.

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She was interesting casting. Usually for the nerd role they will choose someone who can easily be made over yo look beautiful and be a viable love interest. Not really possible with her character. It was tough to believe hunky Jason Preistely would be interested in her

Gabrielle, Luke Perry, and Ian Ziering all looked too old by the senior year season of the show.

she was wonderful in a TV movie with Patty Duke and James Brolin. I think she's maybe 5 feet at most

She played Patty Duke's nana.

She also had a short lived talk show after 90210 ended.

no James you know she played yours and Patty's daughter

James Eckhouse who played Brandon and Brenda's dad is only six years older than Gabrielle.

Wasn't she like 30 on 90210?

Before 90210 Gabrielle was best remembered for playing Florence Trenchard in Our American Cousin the night President Libcoln got shot.

Leslie Uggams is doing GYPSY soon. Apparently, Gabrielle is tipped to play Papa.

R29 Duh. I don't mind when teen shows have people in their early 20s playing teens. Stuff like that is done mostly because of child labor laws. When 90210 started, Brian Austin Greene and Tori Spelling were the only ones under 18 and production was probably slowed down up until they turned 18. Most actors in their late 20s or early 30s can't pull off playing teens. More recent examples are Mark Salling on Glee and Bianca Lawson on Pretty Little Liars. Salling aged quite a bit in season 2 of Glee and in season 3, it was hard to buy him as a high school senior. Bianca Lawson does look younger than her age, but on PLL, she didn't look a teenager.

I was 12 when 90210 started and me and my friends loved the show. We all used to talk about how gross & old Ahhhndrea looked and how lame she was.

Shannen, Jennie, Brian, and Tori looked like they could be teenagers. Jason was on the bubble. Luke and Gabrielle looked much older.

I actually stayed in the same hotel as Gabrielle, Jennie, and Ian during the height of the show's popularity. I was a shy 12 year old and my mother went over and told her what a big fan of the show I was and she kindly took the time to talk to both of us. By that point the cast had been bombarded by people in the hotel approaching them (or stalking them; Jennie supposedly had to change rooms) so the fact that she took the time to talk to me meant a lot.

Luke looked older too but I thought he was hot so it didn't bother me.

Her husband is pretty hot. Good for you , Gabby.

She's one of the few women who would hage actually benefited from collagen lipinjections. I'm not on that bandwagon in general, but it's those kind of harshly skinny lips that collagen was meant for.

I have a friend - she's 48 now and moved to Georgetown a while ago, so I'm not quite sure from her FB pictures if she's keeping up, but probably - who has super skinny lips (was otherwise rather pretty) and she got just a minimal amount of injections a couple times a year. I would have never guessed until she told me eventually. Subtle but made a huge difference.

So anyway, the Gabs could have used a bit of that as well.

She was shorter than ShanDo so I think she was about 5 feet. Sucks to be that short - your legs are always going to look like stumps.

Her season three storyline about osteoporosis was touching.

"Donna, my backkkkkkkk!"

There is nothing wrong with her lips and I think she has aged better than most of the cast members. Plus she looks genuinely happy.

Nepotism?

Fun fact: Gabrielle tried out for the role of Sophia on The Golden Girls, but the producers wanted to go younger.

Her three-part episode on elder abuse was especially touching.

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Lainie Kazan had a memorable turn as Gabrielle GRANDMOTHER on the show.

No, no, R45, you've got that mixed up. She played Andrea's granddaughter.

I, personally, was shocked when 90210 tackled the subject of incontinence. But it was brave of Gabrielle to reveal her use of Depends.

It seems the writers forgot about Ahhhnnndrea's dementia storyline. She was diagnosed, left to visit her cousin in Tulsa for a few episodes, and when she returned they dropped the story. Odd.

Thelma & Louise was originally intended as a vehicle for Gabrielle and June Alyson.

Family Guy made fun of Ahhhnnndrea

R44 of course they did!

Didn't Family Guy make a joke about her?

Anyone?

ANYONE?

This is the meanest funniest thread I've ever read.

[quote]Fun fact: Gabrielle tried out for the role of Sophia on The Golden Girls, but the producers wanted to go younger.

OK, that made me laugh!

R52 Already posted.

R54 everyone forgot to mention the real reason she didn't get cast as Sophia...she was too tall.

[quote]Thelma & Louise was originally intended as a vehicle for Gabrielle and June Alyson.

No, that was THE WHALES OF AUGUST. Ahhhnnndrea's doctors didn't think she'd be up to the workload so she turned it down.

Lillian Gish was okay, but I would've loved to see what Gabrielle would've brought to the role. (Besides statins and a zimmerframe of course.)

I will never understand how anyone thought Gabrielle looked any older than Luke Perry. He had a 5-head and wrinkles in high school.

Gabrielle actually looked younger that most of the cast, even though she was older. One bought her as a teenage, and as a dumpy nerd.

"One bought her as a teenage, and as a dumpy nerd."

Yes, one and only one. And that one is you, R 60.

[quote]Gabrielle actually looked younger that most of the cast, even though she was older.

Oh, Gabrielle, come on, don't try to revise history.

Was "My So-Called Life" revolutionary around the same time in casting an actual 15-year-old (Claire Danes) to play a 15-year-old in the lead role?

No.

Gabrielle actually got her role on 90210 because Aaron Spelling came across the tape from her audition for a TV version of Driving Miss Daisy (in which she was cast as Daisy Werthan).

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Gabrielle was left on the cutting room floor of First Wives Club. She played Monique's mother.

You guys are such bitches. Stop making fun of Gabrille. She's actually a really talented, vibrant, action.

Little known fact, she was actually the first choice to play Rose opposite Leonardo DiCarpio, in James Cameron's Titanic, however, due to scheduling conflicts, she was replaced with Gloria Stuart.

*actress

[quote] It was tough to believe hunky Jason Preistely would be interested in her.

I think that was part of the genius of it all. He was really smart and she was really smart and that was their attraction. Even his later girlfriend, (who was like a professional reporter?) was also smart. I never really bought that he had anything with Kelly other than sexual attraction. I couldn't imagine Kelly going with him to a museum etc.

I loved Andrea. When the show became more soapy and sexy, she didn't really fit in.

R59 - Right. Luke had crow's feet.

I did find it odd that when everyone went to the Peach Pit and ordered Cokes and milkshakes, Andrea was drinking Ensure.

I'll never forget that episode where the gang went to Vegas, and Ahhndrea was all, "You guys! We can't get into the casino! They'll card us!" I was like, bitch, please.

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[quote] Was "My So-Called Life" revolutionary around the same time in casting an actual 15-year-old (Claire Danes) to play a 15-year-old in the lead role?

I remember there were some praises for that casting move. Danes and the actor who played Brian were the only teen cast members. The rest were in their 20s, but they were believable as teens. Using 20 somethings to play teens in shows and movies can work if the actors look younger than their ages. I remember FOX had that short lived TV show Point Pleasant back in 2005. The lead character was 18 year old girl and she was played by a 26 year old actress who looked like a teenager.

On the other hand, in real life you sometimes will find teenagers who look several years older than their real ages.

Joe E. Tata, R72, made me laugh.

Who can forget the episode where Ahhhndrea fell and couldn't get up? If it hadn't been for Life Call who knows what would've happened...

I love this thread

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I used to hate scenes with Andrea! While the other characters were knee-deep in drama, she'd sit there in a shawl and complain about the room temperature. And I'd especially hate scenes where she'd loudly unwrap butterscotch candies while humming "Anything Goes."

That show really highlighted the issues kids suffering from progeria are facing on a daily basis.

She reminded me of that fatass Lynn woman on the Young and the Restless, Paul's secretary.

lol r39

LMAO R82! I haaaaaated Lynn. Like she could compete with Lauren, Isabella, or even Cricket. I didn't realize the character was gone until you mentioned her.

R84, it was obvious Lynn WANTED Paul, but I could never figure out if she wanted him for a husband or for lunch.

She's the frumpy middle-aged mom I wished all my high school friends could be.

Bitches, don't soil a perfectly good 90210 thread with your daytime dramas when you have plenty of good threads of your own to play in.

The wardrobe dept on 90210 did an amazing job of concealing the bulges created by her depends.

Gabriel was the 40-year old soccer mom we all secretly wanted to be in high school.

[quote]she'd sit there in a shawl and complain about the room temperature.

My grandmother's the same way.

Love what R81 said.

90210 jumped the shark when they introduced the ridiculous storyline of Ahhhhhhndrea getting knocked up. It was unrealistic for a post menopausal woman to get pregnant and fans of the show didn't buy it.

The plot twist should have been that Ahhhhndrea, desperate for a grandchild, faked the pregnancy and tried to steal Emily Valentine's baby to call her own.

I always thought it was weird when Andrea would be sipping prune juice at parties while everyone else was was pounding beers.

One of the most internationally successful US TV shows ever--broadcast in so many countries. When I mentioned to a hookup at a hotel in Israel while vacationing there that my brother lived in Minneapolis, he earnestly replied: "Aaaah, like Brandon and Brenda" (since that's where the characters were apparently from originally).

Say what you will, but Ahhhnnndrea brought in the 65+ demographic that otherwise wouldn't have watched the show.

If there was ever a TV character I hated it was Andrea. She was so fucking intense and humorless.

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r70, You've got a point, but I also agree with r96. At least now thinking back, I mostly remember her as uptight and kinda boring? She was a bit frumpy and didn't really fit in with the rest of the cast.

At least she didn't look like a frog.

I remember when Andrea came over to Brenda's sleepover she brought a cane to get upstairs.

Many people forget that Milton Berle was nominated for an Emmy (Best Guest Actor in a Drama) for BH 90210 in 1995, which was the series only Emmy nod. It was a well-deserved nomination, Berle was terrific as Andrea's long lost son.

Didn't Aaron spelling cast Gabrielle Carteris as a favor to his mother? Gabrielle and Mrs. Spelling were childhood friends.

I never heard that R102

God, I hate when people like R102 get it all wrong.

Gabrielle was NOT Candy's childhood friend. Aaron gave Carteris the role because he always liked her. They go way back. When Aaron was an infant, Gabrielle was his nurse maid.

I was working at Space Mountain at Disney World when 90210 was big; Gabrielle came through one day with her husband -- rather than be back doored, they said we won't inconvenience you or the others and waited in line. I thought that was nice.

Space Mountain? With her weak heart?

R105

What an inconsiderate bitch. It really takes an entitled bitch to just take up all that space in line with her walker.

Then again, she also probably realized no one would know who she was anyway.

[quote] Gabrielle came through one day with her husband -- rather than be back doored, they said we won't inconvenience you or the others and waited in line.

What time of day was this? Did Gabrielle bring her own oil lamp?

Go ahead and get your laughs at Gabrielle's expense. Just remember: She survived the San Francisco Earthquake of 1906, she'll survive the pointless bitchery of DL.

It gives my heart a pang how Gabrielle just stood there in the ruins and continued to edit the school newspaper.

r110, you gave yourself away, you ancient hag, but I love you for it!

How she managed to keep her panties dry while sharing the screen with the delectable red-headed Mark Kiely (Gil Meyers) is a mystery. Ironically, she's probably older than him, and he played their TEACHER!

Gil was the hot teacher at West Beverly.

He sure was!

I met her not long ago. She's nice and down to earth!

Were you visiting a senior center, r115?

Christ, this is the funniest thread I've read in awhile. Just hilarious. Thanks, DL. Your pointless bitchery tickles me.

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Does anyone else remember the rumors that after MELROSE PLACE became a success, Aaron Spelling was planning on creating a BH90210 spin-off with Gabrielle?

Gabrielle was to reprise her role as Ahhhnnndrea and star with Nanette Fabray and Julie Adams in TRANQUIL PINES, MALIBU.

Surely someone remembers it?

You can tell that some scripts were hastily rewritten in season 2, when Gabrielle was absent for a few episodes due to hip surgery.

[quote] Bette Davis hated Gabrielle ("Christ, what an old cunt.") and had her replaced by Lillian Gish in "The Whales of August."

That goes back to the 1950s and Bette's quote that "the only bitch on the set of ALL ABOUT EVE was Gabrielle Carteris".

Did anyone here ever notice how Andrea only ate at the Peach Pit on Tuesdays when she could use her senior discount? She always ordered the same thing, the senior patty melt with a side of peaches.

I remember when Andrea came to Prom in a motorized scooter.

I remember how crazy popular 90210 was and how they all had dolls and endorsement deals. I thought it was really great that Gabrielle had her fair share too. She's extremely talented and deserved the Life Alert, Metamucil and Prune Council spokesgigs.

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You bitches are mean. And I thought I had it rough.

No Tori, you don't know what it's like to have osteoporosis

The costume department on that show didn't have it easy, but I think they did a good job of disguising Cateris' use of Depends.

R128 wow Tori Spelling in that picture looks special needs

Hey!

My five head doesn't look bad in that pic.

Mom jeans as far as the eye can see @R128!

In R128, Gabrielle has a gunt to rival Jessica Fletcher.

That was my thought, R132. The boys are wearing mom jeans too! The jeans and shoes alone make that photo look [italic]so[/italic] dated.

Did Andrea express an interest in anyone besides Brandon?

who was gabriel in 90210?

[quote] Did Andrea express an interest in anyone besides Brandon?

Don't you remember when she had that summer fling with the character played by Don Ameche?

i think the most powerful show was when we found out that Andrea's younger sister Anne Frank got sent to the concentration camp..

remember her fling with that character played by Charlton Heston? they had them break up when he fell and broke his hip and Andrea didn't want to deal with all that.

No R138 Anne was older than Andrea

R124, Andrea had no Barbie doll. It was just Brenda, Dylan, Brandon, Kelly, and Donna.

The hormone replacement therapy made her a raving bitch on set.

Who would want a geriatric Andrea doll?

I was in elementary school when 90210 started. I watched the show with my older siblings who were in middle school and high school at the time. I remember the merchandising and some girls at my school had 90210 lunch boxes and school supplies. I remember going into mall stores and seeing a shelf of Saved By the Bell merchandise next to the 90210 stuff.

R128 kind of sad that Tori Spelling actually looks cute then compared to now. Back then I figured that was her awkward stage and her looks would improve, not the other way around. Oh well.

Jennie Garth always had thick legs - no wonder she always was/is dieting.

ShanDo really was so pretty - I don't get what happened. And when did she get the gap in her teeth? Does that just happen to some people as they get older?

90210 came out when I was 10, but I wasn't allowed to watch it until I was 12. Still, I saw the merchandise everywhere and some girls in my school had 90210 notebooks, T-shirts, etc. Anyway, I thought Shannen Doherty was Asian. When I learned that Brenda and Brandon were brother and sister, I figured she was adopted, but then someone informed me that they were supposed to be twins?!

It must have been tough on Andrea to change in the girls locker room at West Beverly, and have all the other girls laugh at her grey pubes.

Does Shannen D have any Asian heritage? I kind of see what R145 said. As for the 90210 dolls, FOX and other marketing people knew that the characters of Steve and Andrea weren't popular with fans. The David character wasn't too popular when the show started, but in time he became a fave with a female viewers. Ian Zeiring was the least attractive main male cast member.

I disagree about Ian being the least attractive. Besides having the biggest most buff body of the guys, he was pretty good looking. You just have to ignore his stiff platinum mullet.

As for ShanDo, it was the dark hair and extreme bang that made her look slightly Asian. She's always had a great head of hair. Her teeth, on the other hand... She had braces as a teen, and then later on 90210 the gap was on the side. By the time she was doing CHARMED, she was sporting veneers. I think once she removed the veneers, the gap had moved from the side to smack-dab in the front. Plus, she's a smoker, so...

On 90210 the initial contracts was very low salaries, and they got screwed on the merchandise.

When Aaron Spelling lured Shannen to do Charmed, she was not about to be ripped off twice. Not this time for Shannen. She negotiated to own a piece of the series of Charmed, its profits and all its merchandising.

So even after she was fired, the bucks kept rolling in. And they still roll in due to the DVD and syndication profits. Plus the merchandising of the charmed dolls and book series.

If Shando is one thing, it's the opposite of a doormat. She's earned her rep.

[quote] If Shando is one thing, it's the opposite of a doormat. She's earned her rep.

When Holly-Marie and Alyssa complained about their profit participation, Spelling catapulted and gave them a 'producer' credit.

Though they had the title of producer, it still saved Spelling money as it was just a title. Not an increase in cash.

We sent Andrea an invitation to Donna and David's wedding, but the nursing home sent it back for some odd reason.

Doherty got the reputation, but Cateris could be difficult when her arthritis on flared up.

Yeah I remember hearing her whine about her arthritis from my dressing room.

Ben gay bump!

She was good in Cocoon considering she was the oldest cast member and needed a lot of assistance getting in and out of the pool. Didn't she and Wilford Brimley have an off screen affair which is why she wasn't asked to be a part of Cocoon 2?

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Gabrielle originally read for the part of Nana Walsh, Brenda and Brandon's wealthy grandmother (and newly-appointed caretaker), but the producers decided against going the "orphaned teen" route. Too depressing.

Andrea picked up a lot of guys in West Beverly High, but it was tough to consummate their relationship with her dry muffin. Like sandpaper.

Ahhhnnndrea's storyline with her dating the school's principal was one of her best.

She was quite a cougar.

And with her menopause production always had to have the A/C cranked on set.

It was Southern California but it sure fucking felt like Antarctica.

We had to do so many reshoots because our nipples could cut glass every time she had a hot flash.

Shame on you mean bitches for making fun of gabrielle. In china she is REVERED.Shrines to her and the other ancestors are in every other home. Have some respect!

She's on Twitter.

So nice to see she's keeping up with the times!

So glad she's not in one of those crooked nursing homes that close their patients off from the outside world!

Well Gabrielle has been working a very long time and she can afford a swank nursing home.

I wonder if they let her wear cloth diapers!

The Matlock producers wanted Gabrielle to have a 3 episode guest arc as Ben's high school sweetheart, but her Beverly Hills 90210 schedule didn't allow her to guest star on that show.

It was announced earlier that Gabrielle will be eulogizing her actress friend Ann B. Davis later this week. Gabrielle and Ann were roommates when they were trying to start their careers.

I was reading both Jason Priestley and Jennie Garth book. They wrote about their weddings, and other cast members weddings.

Both Gabrielle and Shannen have never been invited to a 90210 cast members wedding since the show folded.

I don't think Gabrielle became extremely close friends with anyone in the cast. I think the age difference might have been a factor.

Gabrielle Carteris was worried about being too old to play a high school student when she was first cast in “Beverly Hills, 90210” – so she lied about her age!

“They didn’t know, I lied,” the actress told Billy Bush and Kit Hoover on Monday’s Access Hollywood Live about playing the 16-year-old Andrea Zuckerman when she was 29.

“I actually talked to a lawyer about how could I sign these contracts and lie about my age and still be able to do the show. ‘Is it OK?’ And, ‘Yes it is, as long as you just say you’re over 21,’” the actress, who is currently guest starring on NBC’s “The Event,” explained.

[quote]Both Gabrielle and Shannen have never been invited to a 90210 cast members wedding since the show folded.

Shannen left the show so early that I can see why she'd not be invited. Gabrielle however was probably still on the show when some of them got married... why wasn't she invited?

I think that after the show, she left showbiz completely except for a talk show that aired for half a season. Hollywood friendships are so phony, and I can definitely see her costars not keeping up with a mom of 2 that basically left showbiz. Remember that when 2 or more of them get together, they can call it a 90210 reunion and it gets their pics in the magazines.

Maybe it's because she was 80 when it started, but she seems by far to be the most normal of the cast. She was even seemed normal while on the Surreal Life, and that show made everyone look like assholes.

[quote]I think that after the show, she left showbiz completely except for a talk show that aired for half a season.

No... she worked pretty steadily after 90210.

If only the producers hadn't decided to go with a more established (and younger) star for the movie version of MAME, Gabrielle's career could have gone in an entirely different direction. She never forgave Lucy but was still proud that one of her acting school students had done so well.

i loved the episode where she told the gang what it was like when los angeles was first founded..she was the first anglo women in Southern ca

How come Lifetime didn't hire an old lady to play Gabrielle?

Gabrielle Anne Carteris (born January 2, 1961; age 54) is an American actress known for her role as Andrea Zuckerman on the early seasons of the 1990s television series Beverly Hills, 90210.

Andrea was such a hoot. I loved all the episodes where she would regale the West Beverly kids about her time in vaudeville. There was also that very special episode where Andrea received her AARP card on the same day that Brenda got her driver's license. They celebrated together over a glass of Bromo-Seltzer and a plate of Saltines.

You know you're old when you realize the cast of 90210 is now in their 50s.

Gabrielle is 120 now.

The Lifetime movie making fun of old lady Gabrielle.

I think I spotted her in an infomercial for Life Alert.

Gabrielle was originally cast in Edward Scissorhands, but she had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts.

So they ended up just putting prosthetics and a wig on Winona Ryder rather then find another actress for the role.

I remember I was like 9 or 10 the first time I watched a 90210 episode. It was the one where Brenda and Andrea were volunteering at a crisis call center, and there was a date rape victim who kept calling.

I thought Andrea was one of the teachers.

Andrea also looked like a school librarian in the episodes where she tutored kids.

I remember a few years ago, there was this quiz on Facebook that people were taking called, "What is your mental age?" A friend of mine posted his results, which were "YOU ARE THIRTY!" And it had a picture of Gabrielle Carteris. I laughed so hard. The sad thing is, he probably didn't get the joke.

I remember a few months later, on my 30th birthday, I almost posted on Facebook, "Wow, I'm 30! I feel like Gabrielle Carteris!" But I decided not to because I didn't think people would get the reference.

Was there an "In Memory" tribute to Gabrielle in the Lifetime movie?

Does anyone remember when Gabrielle had her own talk show?