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Sort-of Blind Item: Who is This "Deluded 1960s Starlet"?

Warning: It's somewhat long, but there is a LOT of detail and it's quite well-written. Hope someone can figure it out. One of the commenters claims to know who it is, but doesn't reveal the name.

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by Anonymousreply 496June 26, 2019 3:09 PM

My first guess is Debbie Reynolds but it seems less likely as I read on. You have any guesses, OP?

by Anonymousreply 1March 6, 2014 1:41 AM

I started off with Kim Novak, but she really wasn't a 60s starlet. Same goes for Debbie. I think it has to be someone who came in at the tail end of the studio system. There are a TON of clues in there, aren't there?

by Anonymousreply 2March 6, 2014 1:45 AM

I'm looking at a list of guest stars for The FBI. Brenda Vaccaro? Brooke Bundy?

by Anonymousreply 3March 6, 2014 1:47 AM

Yeah, but the big clue up front is this one:

[quote]This actress was signed to a long-term studio contract when she was about 20 years old and made her film debut in a major motion picture that was one of the most acclaimed films of its time.

That leaves out a lot of TV types.

by Anonymousreply 4March 6, 2014 1:50 AM

You're right. And this clue, of a sort:

"This actress always played level-headed, intelligent women and I found her to be the complete opposite in real life. I found her to be a pseudo-intellectual who wasn't down-to-earth at all, wasn't as bright as she presumed she was, was inarticulate, and was one of the most airheaded people I've ever encountered in my life."

by Anonymousreply 5March 6, 2014 1:53 AM

Actresses who appeared in FBI-Jessica Walter,Dana Wynter,Lee Meriwether,Joan Van Ark,Lynda Day George,Susan Strasberg,Suzanne Pleshette and Meg Foster

by Anonymousreply 6March 6, 2014 1:53 AM

Biggest bombs of the 60s

Paint your Wagon Fall of the Roman Empire Doctor Doolittle Cleopatra The Chase

by Anonymousreply 7March 6, 2014 1:54 AM

Carol Lynley?

Caroll Baker?

Ursula Andress?

Raquel Welch?

by Anonymousreply 8March 6, 2014 1:56 AM

The clue.

[quote]This actress was signed to a long-term studio contract when she was about 20 years old and made her film debut in a major motion picture that was one of the most acclaimed films of its time. She continued working in films and television throughout the 1960s and would play second-leads in films, including appearing in one of the biggest flops of the 1960s, guest-starred on almost all the television programs of the era, and worked opposite some legendary stars. However, despite her accomplishments, she has rarely done theater and, to my knowledge, has never appeared on Broadway. Her career would be considered good by any stretch of the imagination, but she never really landed that really notable or major role that would have made her superstar, or even a cult figure. Her 1970s and 1980s career consisted of roles in TV movies and continuing to guest star on television shows. She has continued working through the years, but in increasingly smaller and smaller roles. Sometimes, she'll show up in a movie just for one scene, with only a handful of lines. This actress always had a quality on-screen which made her seem low-key, down-to-earth, like the girl (or woman) next-door.

This fits Diane Baker to some extent.

- major contract with 20th Century Fox

- debuted in The Diary of Anne Frank

- worked opposite Joan Crawford, Gregory Peck, Walter Matthau and many others

- did a lot of episodice TV in the 1960s (including more than one gig on The FBI, which is mentioned later in the story)

- and starred in "Krakatoa: East of Java," an incredibly expensive flop of the late 1960s.

Also:

[quote] In the meantime, while she was waiting to find out when she would be needed on location for that feature film, she was offered the aforementioned TV miniseries, which partly dramatized the life of a historical figure that she revered.

Diane Baker starred as Rose Kennedy in a TV miniseries in the early 2000s.

by Anonymousreply 9March 6, 2014 1:57 AM

I was thinking Ann-Margret for a minute, but I've never heard a bad word about her, ever.

by Anonymousreply 10March 6, 2014 1:57 AM

I was thinking Carol Lynley, but I've spoken to her and she was terrific. Carroll Baker? Joan Collins? Barbara Lawrence? I confess I didn't read the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 11March 6, 2014 1:59 AM

Either Stephanie Powers or more likely Carol Lynley

by Anonymousreply 12March 6, 2014 2:00 AM

Raquel Welch comes to mind.

Career-wise,however,she doesn't fit the description. But attitude-wise? Hell yes.

Also, if it were Welch, I think the author would made more of her looks.

Fun BI, though.

by Anonymousreply 13March 6, 2014 2:02 AM

Could the crazy actress's friend be Rita Moreno, who was also active in the '60s? The author mentions that the friend's husband died during this episode. Rita's husband died in 2010, I think, so the timeline fits.

Is Rita particularly close friends with anyone? Maybe we can identify the nutjob by looking in her Rolodex.

by Anonymousreply 14March 6, 2014 2:03 AM

I like the idea of Diane Baker, although she's awfully obscure these days.

Carol Lynley and Raquel Welch both started in TV and didn't appear in any big blockbusters early on. Carroll Baker was in "Giant," "Baby Doll," and "How the West Was Won," but no major flops of the '60s.

by Anonymousreply 15March 6, 2014 2:03 AM

Also:

[quote]Another actress said about her, "She's a funny little bird. She's always been a snob. I was in acting school with her and she was always a bit of a debutante and a princess. One time I saw her when she came back from making a film overseas in a country where there was a lot of turmoil and starvation and I asked her how was the trip. She just shuddered very dramatically and said 'Oh, so depressing!' and then walked away without saying another word."

Diane Baker spent a lot of time in acting school without doing any real theater, and in 1963 she went to India to film the Mahatma Gandhi biography "Nine Hours to Rama."

by Anonymousreply 16March 6, 2014 2:05 AM

Carroll Baker had a HUGE flop in one of the HARLOW films, right?

by Anonymousreply 17March 6, 2014 2:06 AM

Oh - more:

[quote]She had just finished a TV miniseries where she had a supporting role. She proceeded to tell me that she was also offered a part in a major motion picture that was filming concurrently around the same time. She didn't want to appear in the feature film because of its violent content, and that the script gave her nightmares, but she ultimately accepted it because "if you turn down work, people will think you don't want to work."

Around the same time she played Rose Kennedy in the miniseries, Diane Baker appeared in "The Silence of the Lambs" in a tiny part.

She fits.

by Anonymousreply 18March 6, 2014 2:09 AM

Stella Stevens?

by Anonymousreply 19March 6, 2014 2:09 AM

My guess is Vera Miles, she was on "FBI" was in a huge film "Psycho" and didn't do Broadway.

I was going to guess Dina Merrill, but she did Broadway. Her fortune would be enough to make her act like such a cunt though.

by Anonymousreply 20March 6, 2014 2:11 AM

I don't think it's Diane Baker. The miniseries where she played Rose Kennedy was in 2000. Silence of the Lambs was 1991. I think it's Jessica Walter.

by Anonymousreply 21March 6, 2014 2:11 AM

I think it must be Diane Baker. But on IMDB, there's this:

[quote]Was a contestant in the 1957 Miss Rheingold pageant, an annual promotion by Rheingold Beer (Liebmann Breweries), and was pictured on Rheingold beer cans issued during the promotion.

Doesn't sound like she's as classy as she claims to be!

It also says she's a staunch liberal Democrat, and that jibes with the comments in the blog post about politics.

by Anonymousreply 22March 6, 2014 2:11 AM

It says her scene was cut from the feature film.

by Anonymousreply 23March 6, 2014 2:12 AM

Now that I think about it... wasn't there something about Diane Baker when she was filming Straitjacket with JC? Seems like there was some gossip about that but I may have imagined it and I wasn't born for until 15 years after it was made anyhow.

She does seem to fit.

by Anonymousreply 24March 6, 2014 2:12 AM

R13 And ... Diane Baker starred in "DELLA"!

by Anonymousreply 25March 6, 2014 2:12 AM

Carroll Baker was never on "FBI."

I'm going with Diane Baker on this one. Krakatoa: East of Java counts as a flop, and she was the female lead.

by Anonymousreply 26March 6, 2014 2:13 AM

Jessica Walter! I bet it's her, r21.

by Anonymousreply 27March 6, 2014 2:13 AM

I'll guess Lee Meriwether.

by Anonymousreply 28March 6, 2014 2:14 AM

This is definitely a departure from our usual blind items because (1) it's clearly true, and (2) there's SO much information.

by Anonymousreply 29March 6, 2014 2:15 AM

That's an interesting guess, R21, though I think you're off the mark. According to the author, this actress has never done Broadway, but Jessica Walter first appeared on stage fifty years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 30March 6, 2014 2:16 AM

I am the author of this article and I found this thread when I logged into my site tonight and found people looking at my blog after clicking on this link. I am not going to confirm or deny the identity of the actress, but I wanted to Thank You for taking the time to read it and for the kind words of the original poster, who indicated he/she thought it was well-written. As someone who cares a lot about his writing and his blog, it's always heartening when people seem to respond to what you are writing. My sincere Thanks and I hope you will read my other articles on my blog.

by Anonymousreply 31March 6, 2014 2:18 AM

I'm reneging, r21. I'm now with r25.

Lots of good guesses here.

by Anonymousreply 32March 6, 2014 2:19 AM

I was thinking Anne Baxter, maybe.

-Flop would be Cimarron

-Great movie (though not a debut) All About Eve

-Reputation for being an intellectual

-Guest Spots everywhere

-Historical figure movie could be her Jane Austen film

by Anonymousreply 33March 6, 2014 2:20 AM

R31 Thank YOU, HillPlaceBlog. I was the original poster and I found your blog because someone else here linked to your wonderful article about "Adam-12."

by Anonymousreply 34March 6, 2014 2:21 AM

Would anyone say of Diane Baker, "She's my favorite actress!"

by Anonymousreply 35March 6, 2014 2:22 AM

Aww, c'mon, r31. At least tell us if the correct answer is here.

by Anonymousreply 36March 6, 2014 2:22 AM

R31, Hello and welcome!

Very well-written article. You've got me stumped :)

by Anonymousreply 37March 6, 2014 2:23 AM

The article says that the actress was featured in several episodes of "The FBI". Should help to narrow down the list.

by Anonymousreply 38March 6, 2014 2:25 AM

Julie Newmar. You can take that to the Brentwood National Bank.

by Anonymousreply 39March 6, 2014 2:26 AM

[quote]Yet another actress told me that this actress has been rumored for years to be a lesbian, not that that would have made a difference to me if she were or were not, but she suggested that perhaps this actress was uptight with me because she feared I might inadvertently find out about her purported lifestyle if I interviewed her.

Does this part fit Diane Baker?

by Anonymousreply 40March 6, 2014 2:28 AM

Yeah, r40, it does.

by Anonymousreply 41March 6, 2014 2:33 AM

more please.

by Anonymousreply 42March 6, 2014 2:34 AM

Run, HillPlaceBlog, run as fast as you can!

by Anonymousreply 43March 6, 2014 2:34 AM

Did the blog say the actress had or hadn't ever appeared on Broadway?

Did Diane Baker appear on Broadway?

She fits in all the other criteria except I thought she always had a very kind and sweet rep in the business. She was the actress on The Best of Everything who calmed Joan Crawford down and made her feel confident.

by Anonymousreply 44March 6, 2014 2:34 AM

Della, I just tried to post a reply to you but for some reason it didn't get posted. As I said earlier, I'm not here to confirm or deny. But I sincerely appreciate your interest and your enthusiasm and I think all of you are very smart and witty and I've enjoyed reading all of your guesses.

To the original poster, thanks and I'll look for that thread with the Adam 12 piece.

I also wanted to thank you all for appreciating the article in the spirit with which it was written. I just had a story I thought would be interesting to share and also wanted to share what I learned from it and I'm glad you all seem responsive to it.

by Anonymousreply 45March 6, 2014 2:37 AM

Angie Dickinson?

Susan whatshername, the mother of the Weitz brothers? Who was in Imitation of Life?

Suzanne Pleshette?

Janice Rule?

by Anonymousreply 46March 6, 2014 2:38 AM

[R43] Why the warning to run as fast as I can?

by Anonymousreply 47March 6, 2014 2:39 AM

Ok, r45. Thanks for the fun.

by Anonymousreply 48March 6, 2014 2:39 AM

Why is the identity a secret? What harm would there be in revealing who the actress is?

I don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 49March 6, 2014 2:39 AM

r9 again - my only thought was that Diane Baker might be too obscure for this, but looking at her resume, she appeared with some huge stars and directors in the 1960s (while working concurrently in episodic TV) and has worked steadily since then as a character actress.

She had a huge debut, big movies opposite top leading men, has worked steadily for more than 50 years, and is still working. It's very weird that she's almost completely obscure now.

by Anonymousreply 50March 6, 2014 2:40 AM

Jane Fonda? She can be a real airhead.

by Anonymousreply 51March 6, 2014 2:42 AM

HillPlaceBlog

The Adam-12 thread is at the link. The post referring to your blog is #90. (I was #91.)

by Anonymousreply 52March 6, 2014 2:43 AM

Cuz,r47. we're the Walking Dead Dataloungers. We'll eat you alive.

And since your sweet, HillPlaceBlog, you'll be delicious.

by Anonymousreply 53March 6, 2014 2:44 AM

Sorry, I messed up the link to Adam-12.

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by Anonymousreply 54March 6, 2014 2:45 AM

Some might call DL dysfunctional, HPB at r47. We love you, but we might also eat you alive.

by Anonymousreply 55March 6, 2014 2:47 AM

@Della--Oh! LOL. Now I get it. I appreciate the comment that I'm sweet.

As to the commenter frustrated that I've kept the actress's identity anonymous--when I wrote the piece, it was just to tell the story of what happened. I sincerely didn't think anyone would pay attention to it and turn it into a "blind item" thread like this. I didn't mean to frustrate anyone with the article or to come off like a "tease."

Original poster: I found the other thread and I appreciate the kind comments you and the other commenter made about my Adam-12 article. Thanks!

If you're interested, I just wrote an article about Tina Louise's work on Gilligan's Island. It's the most recent article on my blog.

by Anonymousreply 56March 6, 2014 2:49 AM

My guess is Diane Baker. She made her film debut in The Diary of Anne Frank, as Anne's older sister, Margot. She appeared on "The FBI" TV series three times, and she was the star of the 1969 flop, Krakatoa: East of Java, a terrible big-budget disaster movie (made all the more ridiculous by the fact that Krakatoa is west of Java.)

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by Anonymousreply 57March 6, 2014 2:51 AM

[quote]Did the blog say the actress had or hadn't ever appeared on Broadway? Did Diane Baker appear on Broadway?

According to the Internet Broadway Database and Off-Broadway Database, no.

by Anonymousreply 58March 6, 2014 2:55 AM

Gawd, in typical DL fashion, some of you cannot even bother to read the clues. It's someone WITHOUT a notable and/or cult following. That means it's NOT Angie Dickinson, Jane Fonda or Suzanne Pleshette.

Hillplace, it's lovely to have you here, dear. Gossip like yours is Grade A catnip for us here on DL! Thank you for posting it.

by Anonymousreply 59March 6, 2014 2:56 AM

She seemed lucid on that recent TCM tribute to Robert Osbourne. In all honesty, with her resume I would be cunty about lightweights Tina Louise and Stella Stevens.

Her scene in THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was incredibly memorable.

by Anonymousreply 60March 6, 2014 2:56 AM

Famous Miss Rheingolds

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by Anonymousreply 61March 6, 2014 2:57 AM

Tippi Hedren? Check out the link I posted of the famous Miss Rheingold. Does Tippi Hedren fit the other clues?

by Anonymousreply 62March 6, 2014 2:58 AM

HillPlaceBlog, you still haven't explained why the actress' identity is a secret.

Why?

by Anonymousreply 63March 6, 2014 2:59 AM

By the way, I want to acknowledge some of the people who may not like the article. Someone just left me a comment on the blog, a comment which I just approved and responded to. I've wondered at times whether it was a story worth telling and so I appreciate the candor from individuals who did not like the article. As I acknowledged in my public response, I'm glad to get criticism because it makes me reevaluate my writing and, in the process, hopefully learn something.

In response to the question, why keep her identity a secret? I guess it's due to the actress, who WAS nice to me who put me in touch with her to begin with. She was a very nice lady and I don't want to offend her by saying that I thought her friend was high-maintenance and annoying.

by Anonymousreply 64March 6, 2014 3:05 AM

I don't think it's Newmar. She has done stage work and won a Tony for THE MARRIAGE GO ROUND. The actress mentioned has never done theatre. Plus Newmar has had a somewhat iconic role in Catwoman.

by Anonymousreply 65March 6, 2014 3:07 AM

R63 - you read that article and you have to ASK why her identity is a secret? Were you raised by wolves?

by Anonymousreply 66March 6, 2014 3:08 AM

You've already maligned Stella Stevens and Tina Louise in your blog, why protect the unknown lady?

by Anonymousreply 67March 6, 2014 3:09 AM

HPB didn't malign Stevens and Louise. The mystery actress did.

by Anonymousreply 68March 6, 2014 3:13 AM

HPB, great blog...love your take on the 'biz', particularly Jimmy Stewart's character in "Rear Window."

by Anonymousreply 69March 6, 2014 3:13 AM

[68] Thanks for clarifying that I didn't criticize Stella Stevens or Tina Louise.

[67] I regret if the article sounded like I was criticizing Stevens and Louise but as [68] noted, I was just quoting what was told to me.

by Anonymousreply 70March 6, 2014 3:16 AM

Yeah r63, he did.

by Anonymousreply 71March 6, 2014 3:16 AM

Am I correct in thinking that the book was never published? If so, why? It sounds very interesting. How long ago did this happen?

by Anonymousreply 72March 6, 2014 3:19 AM

Julie Newmar is NOT the girl next door...

Anyway, why the scathing report?

So she hated India--I suggest reading the DL thread on India--much , much more vitriolic. Iin fact, this actress, whoever she is, downright frauish compared to the datalounge posters.

by Anonymousreply 73March 6, 2014 3:19 AM

Sue Lyon?

Definitely not Jessica Walter. Jessica Walter's film debut was in Lilith, hardly one of the most acclaimed movies of its time. Her next movie was The Group, again not an acclaimed movie at all. Also, Jessica Walter has done six shows on Broadway and a great deal of theater.

Similarly, Carol Lynley's movie debut was in The Light in the Forest, again not an acclaimed debut (in fact I've never even heard of it). In fact, one might ask what movie Lynley ever did that could possibly be called one of the most acclaimed films of its time? Certainly not Bunny Lake is Missing (although that might be her best it's not all that acclaimed and it was 8 years after her movie debut).

Carroll Baker's first movie was Easy to Love but her next movie was Giant. But it's definitely not her as she has Broadway credits as well.

Diane Baker is a possibility.

by Anonymousreply 74March 6, 2014 3:19 AM

You are correct. The book was not finished. But the response on DL tonight to just this anecdote is actually inspiring me to get off my behind and finish it once and for all. So, again, thank you.

by Anonymousreply 75March 6, 2014 3:20 AM

Julie Newmar has Broadway credits.

by Anonymousreply 76March 6, 2014 3:20 AM

I would read your book, HPB. The Bisset and York chapters alone would be fabulous reads.

by Anonymousreply 77March 6, 2014 3:23 AM

I hope it isn't Stefanie Powers. I haven't checked to see if she lines up with the clues.

by Anonymousreply 78March 6, 2014 3:25 AM

The author wrote about something that made an impact on him and affected his views and behaviors in life.

The fact that he wrote it around a Hollywood story made it more interesting for the reader.

Personally, I'm happy when anyone has a transformative experience that makes them a kinder and more empathetic person. I wish it would happen more often.

And Lord knows DL loves a good BI.

by Anonymousreply 79March 6, 2014 3:30 AM

A sub-mystery in the blog article:

[quote]She also disparaged another actress I had interviewed and said that she didn't want to be associated with her because she doesn't work anymore. The other actress she cited was someone who had enjoyed a good career, which started on Broadway and extended into films and television, for about 25 years from the early 1960s to the late 1980s and left the business after some family tragedies. I tried to explain that that other actress she was disparaging had left the business for personal, rather than professional, reasons, but she didn't seem convinced and continued to disparage her for not working anymore and continued to feel that being associated with individuals like her in a book would reflect badly upon her.

The only person I can think of who fits this is Barbara Harris... and she and Diane Baker were both Hitchcock actresses.

by Anonymousreply 80March 6, 2014 3:31 AM

After reading this thread, I then went and read the Hill Place piece through from beginning to end. It's almost definitely Diane baker. She studied acting and so would see herself as a serious actress (which she was--she was excellent in several of her films), and she was a contract player for Fox. She mostly had second leads and did not ever become a cult actress. But she's very fine in films like Marnie--I could see how she could be someone's favorite intelligent actress in the 1960s, the way Olivia Williams might be for someone today. She's also a very outspoken liberal Democrat.

I just don't see her as nearly as awful as Hill place paints her. His descriptions of her sound much worse than her behavior she reports. She was indeed a much more serious actress than either Tina Louise or Stella Stevens (who were mere glamor gals known for their figures--Baker studied seriously), and if her responses to him showed genuine insecurity and a little pretentiousness: well, we are dealing with an actor after all. (They are not the most humble of people.) And frankly, I like her much better for needling him about his Republican politics--he deserved it.

The comparisons of her in the piece to Norma Desmond come off as wildly overblown. It sounds like he just didn't get along with her and found her bossy and self-important, and was irked by that and her comments about his conservative politics.

Big deal.

by Anonymousreply 81March 6, 2014 3:35 AM

I'm about to go to sleep in a few minutes. Are there any further criticisms or questions that you would like me to address before I sign off for the evening?

This has been a very eye opening experience tonight. I've found all of you on DL to be very generous with your time in reading this article, very candid and direct, sometimes it was harsh criticism, but like I said earlier I appreciate people who don't mince words. That being said, I also appreciate those who appear to be supportive of my blog and writing and so thank you again.

by Anonymousreply 82March 6, 2014 3:35 AM

[quote]You've already maligned Stella Stevens and Tina Louise in your blog, why protect the unknown lady?

As HPB noted above, his most recent blog post (from February of this year) is a lengthy article about Tina Louise, and he most definitely does NOT malign her in any way.

by Anonymousreply 83March 6, 2014 3:38 AM

HillPlaceBlog - will you say if the actress who left the business was Barbara Harris? I always thought she was incredibly funny and would have matured into a great comedic character actress.

by Anonymousreply 84March 6, 2014 3:38 AM

The blog also has a really fantastic piece of Joanna Pettet, of all people, and her role on Knots Landing. Hill Place knows what's what.

by Anonymousreply 85March 6, 2014 3:40 AM

[R84] It's not Barbara Harris.

[R81] I didn't say I was still conservative. :-) The whole point of the piece was that I think (hope) I've learned a lot and grown up since then. But, like I said before, I appreciate any and all comments, even the critical ones.

by Anonymousreply 86March 6, 2014 3:40 AM

[quote]Are there any further criticisms...?

NEVER ask this on DL! I like you HPB, that's why I offer you this friendly warning. You need skin made of steel to hang around here.

by Anonymousreply 87March 6, 2014 3:41 AM

[quote]One of the last times I heard from her was when she contacted me to say she was leaving the country for awhile to make a feature film in Europe that she was excited about participating in. I realized that this was the end of the line and that she had no intention of ever granting me the interview she had promised. I later saw the film she made and she had a minor supporting role in it, certainly nothing as major as she had indicated to me.

Did Diane Baker make a film in Europe that fits?

by Anonymousreply 88March 6, 2014 3:43 AM

[R87] Thanks for the advice. As you can tell I'm new to DL. That being said, I hope I do have thick skin, as demonstrated by my response to my critics tonight.

by Anonymousreply 89March 6, 2014 3:43 AM

HillPlaceBlog, I enjoyed both the linked article and your piece on Tina Louise. Very interesting to note she's not inclined to dwell on *any* role from her past, not just Ginger Grant. I think as TV fans we want the actors/actresses who portrayed our favorite characters to love them as much as we do and that's just not always the case. Even fond memories can only be hashed over so many times before they become tiresome. Eve Plumb (Jan Brady) comes to mind as similar to Tina in wanting to live in the present not the past.

by Anonymousreply 90March 6, 2014 3:47 AM

HPB - when you want to reference another post, type in a capital R followed immediately by the post number. You don't need the braces/brackets -- they get put in automatically.

Hope that helps.

by Anonymousreply 91March 6, 2014 3:48 AM

R91: Got it. Thanks, I appreciate that. Like I said, I'm new to DL.

by Anonymousreply 92March 6, 2014 3:50 AM

[quote]Did Diane Baker make a film in Europe that fits?

According to IMDB, Diane Baker had a minor supporting role in a 2005 movie called "The Keeper: The Legend of Omar Khayyam," which was shot in Uzbekistan and London.

by Anonymousreply 93March 6, 2014 3:51 AM

Hill Place Blog,

I'm not going to hound you about who I think the identity of the actress is. However, it's almost paramount that you finish that book! Sometimes crap things happen, and you could be hit by a bus tomorrow, and the book would never see the light of day. All of that history would be gone.

So, please, at least leave a draft with someone you trust.

Also, you're a brilliant writer, and you should join us on DataLounge. Your presence would be very much welcome.

by Anonymousreply 94March 6, 2014 3:56 AM

[R94] Don't worry. I'll make sure one of my close friends has the manuscript to my book. And, due to the warm reception I've received, I'll be sure to stick around DL, especially if there are any movie/TV discussions you would like my input on.

Are any of you Falcon Crest fans? I did an interview with Ana Alicia from the show that I posted last July. Hope you enjoy that one.

by Anonymousreply 95March 6, 2014 3:59 AM

Diane Baker did a film called The Keeper: The Legend of Omar Khayyam. It was filmed in the UK, Uzbekistan and California. This seems to be the last film she might have shot abroad.

Diane is currently the Executive Director of Motion Pictures and Television and Acting at San Francisco’s Academy of Art University. No wonder she doesn't want to be in such company with lightweights like Stevens and Welch!

She supposedly has a companion named Michael Lerner.He could be a beard or an actual boyfriend who knows.....

by Anonymousreply 96March 6, 2014 3:59 AM

HillPlace - I'm re-guessing:

[quote]She also disparaged another actress I had interviewed and said that she didn't want to be associated with her because she doesn't work anymore. The other actress she cited was someone who had enjoyed a good career, which started on Broadway and extended into films and television, for about 25 years from the early 1960s to the late 1980s and left the business after some family tragedies. I tried to explain that that other actress she was disparaging had left the business for personal, rather than professional, reasons, but she didn't seem convinced and continued to disparage her for not working anymore and continued to feel that being associated with individuals like her in a book would reflect badly upon her.

"Family tragedies" -- It's not Barbara Harris.

It's Paula Prentiss. And she, like Baker, was a real up-and-coming female lead in the early 1960s, until she had to deal with her own bipolar disorder and a very, VERY messed-up sister.

by Anonymousreply 97March 6, 2014 4:03 AM

HillPlace Blog, did you get to talk to Joanna Pettet. If so, how was she? I liked her work on Knots BUT she was really great on Rod Serling's Night Gallery. She did the best work of her career on that show.

I'm glad you had such a good time with Ms Bisset. I'm happy to hear that she is a lady. One of my all time faves.

I also see that that Shaw Brothers are mentioned on the blog as well! Can't wait to read the piece on Lu.

by Anonymousreply 98March 6, 2014 4:09 AM

From Wiki:

[quote] In 1997, Ann Prentiss was convicted in a Santa Monica, California court of terrorizing her family. She was convicted of making terrorist threats, assault with a firearm, battery, and solicitation to murder her brother-in-law (actor Richard Benjamin) and her father. She was sentenced to 19 years in jail for the crimes. She died in prison, aged 70.

Holy shit.

by Anonymousreply 99March 6, 2014 4:09 AM

R98. Yes, I interviewed Joanna Pettet. She was terrific.

by Anonymousreply 100March 6, 2014 4:12 AM

Thanks for the heads up on the Ana-Alicia interview, HPB! Am a big FC fan and much of the shows vitality disappeared when she was written off.

by Anonymousreply 101March 6, 2014 4:13 AM

R101: You're welcome and I hope you enjoy the Ana Alicia interview. She was also terrific.

OK, I'm going to sleep now. I think I'll be bleary-eyed tomorrow, but I really enjoyed meeting you all!

by Anonymousreply 102March 6, 2014 4:14 AM

Come back, now, you hear!

Good night, Hill.

by Anonymousreply 103March 6, 2014 4:16 AM

As much as I hate it, I think it must indeed be Diane Baker. Everything fits perfectly except, perhaps, this: the timeline. Did I misread it, or did the phone calls take place when she was doing (or had been offered) The Silence of the Lambs? Which means late '89 or early '90.

But the miniseries portraying her beloved historical character was the Jackie Kennedy one in. 2000. Or did I misread? Was this more recent and awful actress was just telling him the story of why she took the violent movie back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 104March 6, 2014 4:22 AM

R104,

She didn't end up appearing in that particular violent film referred to in the post, it seems:

[quote] But then the director of the feature film decided at the last minute to cut the scene entirely from the shooting schedule and just pay her off. She said she just received her paycheck for the feature film she never got to work on, and she said she felt guilty cashing the check.

by Anonymousreply 105March 6, 2014 4:30 AM

R104 I think HPB said that the miniseries and the violent movie both took place at the same time. he described how she was scheduled to film them the same summer.

by Anonymousreply 106March 6, 2014 4:30 AM

The actress never actually appeared in the movie (her part was written out due to potential scheduling conflicts) though they paid her anyway.

So if it is Diane Baker then it would be a movie she was rumoured to be appearing in (but didn't) around 2000 (or '99).

by Anonymousreply 107March 6, 2014 4:31 AM

The last major actor strike was in 2000. This would coincide with Baker's role as Rose Kennedy in the Jackie Onassis TV movie. Not sure what the "violent" feature film she was supposed to do might be. Was she ever attached to "American Psycho"?

by Anonymousreply 108March 6, 2014 4:31 AM

Ah-ha.

"Hannibal," the sequel to "Silence of the Lambs," in which Baker DID appear, was shooting in 2000, around the time of the Rose Kennedy movie. Could her character have been called back for the sequel? (I don't remember DB in the original.)

by Anonymousreply 109March 6, 2014 4:34 AM

I keep thinking it could be Janice Rule. She was a second lead in The Chasers (if I have that right), which was a big '60s flop. She had her first role in 1951 when she was 20. I think she was a Method actress and I know for a fact that she was very left-wing, which nobody has paid attention to, which is an important part of this description, hence would be very suspicious of someone with conservative leanings. She certainly saw herself as a serious actress. I couldn't find evidence that she was on the FBI TV show but she did an awful lot of episodic TV. She did come off as level-headed in her roles.

by Anonymousreply 110March 6, 2014 4:37 AM

Great detective work, r109. She played Senator Ruth Martin, mother of the kidnapped girl, in "Silence of the Lambs." I don't see her character listed in the novel "Hannibal" but maybe she was in an early draft of the film.

by Anonymousreply 111March 6, 2014 4:43 AM

Ok, I'm thinking of a few possibilities:

FRANCE NUYEN

DIANE BAKER

by Anonymousreply 112March 6, 2014 4:57 AM

Love the suit.

by Anonymousreply 113March 6, 2014 5:02 AM

how bout Tuesday Weld or Yvete Mimeux (sp?)

by Anonymousreply 114March 6, 2014 5:05 AM

Katherine Ross! She started in movies, didn't do much theatre, had a demure girl next door quality, and appeared in a major 60s flop--Tell Them Willie Boy is Here.

by Anonymousreply 115March 6, 2014 5:18 AM

r7, how could you forget STAR!?!

by Anonymousreply 116March 6, 2014 5:38 AM

We have a winner--IMDB says that Diane Baker landed a contract with Fox when she was quite young. Also she's the only well-known actress on the FBI list of players who has no theatrical experience.

by Anonymousreply 117March 6, 2014 5:59 AM

Catherine Zeta Jones

by Anonymousreply 118March 6, 2014 6:35 AM

This thread is the most Mary of Marys every to Mary the Marylounge.

by Anonymousreply 119March 6, 2014 6:59 AM

[quote]Thanks for the heads up on the Ana-Alicia interview, HPB!

This is one of my favorite sentences ever posted on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 120March 6, 2014 7:03 AM

It's too bad, R119, the starlet isn't Barbara Bel Geddes or Debbie Reynolds, who both played Mary in Mary, Mary.

by Anonymousreply 121March 6, 2014 7:10 AM

Could HillPlaceBlog confirm that it [italic]isn't[/italic] Diane Baker?

by Anonymousreply 122March 6, 2014 8:08 AM

Diane Baker runs an MFA acting program at some art school in San Fran nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 123March 6, 2014 8:13 AM

[quote]"Hannibal," the sequel to "Silence of the Lambs," in which Baker DID appear, was shooting in 2000, around the time of the Rose Kennedy movie. Could her character have been called back for the sequel? (I don't remember DB in the original.)

She was the mother of the girl in the pit in Silence. I doubt that character would have any reason to be in the sequel.

by Anonymousreply 124March 6, 2014 8:16 AM

LOL r119. So true, I love it.

by Anonymousreply 125March 6, 2014 9:08 AM

Hillplaceblog, did Bisset have anything to say about Michael Sarrazin?

by Anonymousreply 126March 6, 2014 10:56 AM

Darn, I came across this thread too late. Unless the blogger comes back and denies it's Diane Baker...

by Anonymousreply 127March 6, 2014 11:36 AM

It's Diane Baker. How much more proof do you all need?

Once again, what was revealed about her in the blog that was so libelous/embarrassing to cause all this furor?

Her remarks about Stella Stevens and Tina Louise are about the worst that can be said about her. Nothing more disparaging or inflammatory than would have been said about those two in any DL thread.

Btw, I loved Ms. Baker as Pat Boone's sweetheart in Journey to the Center of the Earth.

by Anonymousreply 128March 6, 2014 12:22 PM

I'm shocked and appreciative of the level of interest my article, and my blog in general, appears to have generated here on DL. Again, I'm not here to confirm or deny who it's about, but Thank you for taking the time to read the article. I started working on the blog in earnest after my father died of lung cancer a year and a half ago. I flew home and took care of him in the hospital at the end and it was a traumatic experience. In the aftermath, I started working on the blog and writing regularly to try and stay focused and use my time constructively. One hopes that people will be responsive--either positively or negatively--so I'm humbled by the enthusiasm I've encountered here.

As for the question regarding Michael Sarrazin--Yes, Bisset mentioned him to me. She talked about the making of "The Sweet Ride" (1968) and how it was one of the happiest times of her life because she and Sarrazin fell in love during the filming of that movie. She also mentioned him again later on when she discussed Julie Christie--Bisset accompanied Sarrazin while he was filming "In Search of Gregory" (1969) with Christie and got to know Christie during the filming of that movie. She recalled how she and Christie had the same agent, and the agent used to complain to Bisset all the time how fussy Christie was about scripts and that he could never easily get ahold of her if he had a project for her to consider. She recalls Christie telling her how she doesn't really enjoy acting and Bisset responded, "Well, it's a shame because you're damn good at it."

by Anonymousreply 129March 6, 2014 12:34 PM

PS: That's me, HillPlaceBlog, who just left the previous comment about Sarrazin and my father's battle with lung cancer. I forgot to sign it so that's why it says "Anonymous." My apologies.

by Anonymousreply 130March 6, 2014 12:35 PM

I think it's Suzanne Pleshette.

by Anonymousreply 131March 6, 2014 1:08 PM

It can't be Debbie Reynolds. The post said the actress never did Broadway. Reynolds was the lead in IRENE in the early 70's.

by Anonymousreply 132March 6, 2014 1:09 PM

R110- The late Janice Rule is another actress who was on Broadway.. PICNIC as Madge Owens and she did a musical too. Forgot the name. Before she died, Rule had left the business and had gotten a Masters in counseling. She might have gotten her PhD but in later years she was a therapist.

by Anonymousreply 133March 6, 2014 1:13 PM

It's not me!

by Anonymousreply 134March 6, 2014 1:19 PM

Tuesday weld, Yvette Mimeux (sp), Sue Lyons?

by Anonymousreply 135March 6, 2014 1:22 PM

According to Ibdb, Suzanne Pleshette appeared on Broadway several times, including replacing Anne Bancroft in The Miracle Worker.

It's Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 136March 6, 2014 1:23 PM

[quote]I think it's Suzanne Pleshette.

You didn't know this?

MARY!

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by Anonymousreply 137March 6, 2014 1:44 PM

Janice Rule was a Broadway leading lady. Among other roles, she was the original star of Picnic. Barbara Bel Geddes, whom I believe someone suggested, was also a Broadway star. The woman referred to never did Broadway.

next!

by Anonymousreply 138March 6, 2014 2:51 PM

Why does she have to be American? Couldn't she be British or European, like Samantha Eggar or Claudia Cardinale?

by Anonymousreply 139March 6, 2014 2:58 PM

Mia Farrow?

by Anonymousreply 140March 6, 2014 3:02 PM

Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 141March 6, 2014 3:03 PM

Not Jessica Walter, who has multiple Broadway credits.

by Anonymousreply 142March 6, 2014 3:06 PM

Mia has appeared on Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 143March 6, 2014 3:23 PM

Definitely Diane Baker. There is a scene in the Hannibal novel where Clarice calls Diane's character to ask if she's heard from Hannibal Lector. Must have been in the original draft of the script and then cut.

What more proof do we need? It's definitely her.

by Anonymousreply 144March 6, 2014 4:02 PM

What women has Diane Baker been involved with? We had some people on DL who outed Jacqueline Bisset's female paramours there must be someone in San Francsico who knows about Ms Baker's Sapphic endeavors.

by Anonymousreply 145March 6, 2014 5:18 PM

Stella Stevens was as cute as she could be in the pic on the blog.

by Anonymousreply 146March 6, 2014 5:32 PM

If Diane Baker had a sense of humor and perspective about her career, she'd be great as the guest at one of those Castro Theater-style retrospectives -- talking about working with Hitchcock on "Marnie" and Crawford on "Strait-Jacket," etc.

by Anonymousreply 147March 6, 2014 5:40 PM

A couple of people on here have speculated whether the unnamed actress was Suzanne Pleshette. I will at least acknowledge that it was NOT Pleshette and I'll tell you why: She and I spoke on the phone about potentially doing an interview, but she ultimately declined and joked, "You can call me, honey, when you're writing a book about women of a higher calibre!" And that was such a "Suzanne Pleshette" sassy quote that I burst out laughing and I thought that that was a great way to say "No" to me. I remember that one fondly.

by Anonymousreply 148March 6, 2014 5:51 PM

Diane Baker, who looks very, very good for her advanced age, embarrassed Robert Osborne while staying in his guest apartment at the Osborne (hardly eponymous) in NYC. (It's a tiny warren off the glorious lobby, notable for the rat that once came crawling out of the drain of the toilet.) Flouting the building's rules regarding cell phones, she sat on a bench in the lobby, making calls.

by Anonymousreply 149March 6, 2014 6:01 PM

Baker seems likely, but then there's this line from the blog:

"She told me the time she had been offered a script for a horror film and how offended she was by the offer that she "threw the script across the room."

Baker did STRAIGHT-JACKET back in 1964, so it seems odd that she would suddenly behave like this later on.

by Anonymousreply 150March 6, 2014 6:04 PM

Was she really considered a "starlet" though?

by Anonymousreply 151March 6, 2014 6:08 PM

Because HillPlaceBlog specifically has not addressed the Diane Baker guess(es), it seems clear it is her, since he has explained who it is NOT in quite a few other posts.

by Anonymousreply 152March 6, 2014 6:10 PM

Mr. Hollywood has given up real estate, but not his need for attention I see.

That blog article is miles long and reveals nothing scandalous, important or insightful. It has the reek of his coy, hesitant and simpering writing style. Diane Baker, who the fuck cares?

by Anonymousreply 153March 6, 2014 6:19 PM

R150 STRAIT, not STRAIGHT. (Nothing is "straight" on Datalounge, remember?)

by Anonymousreply 154March 6, 2014 6:21 PM

R153 This thread generated over 150 responses in around 12 hours. So apparently it was of some interest to a few people, anyway. But thanks for sharing.

by Anonymousreply 155March 6, 2014 6:22 PM

I agree, r152.

Stop advancing other guesses. It's Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 156March 6, 2014 6:22 PM

R152 Please don't take my non-acknowledgement of Baker as a sign that it's actually her. I also didn't acknowledge the guesses for Carol Lynley, Raquel Welch, Janice Rule, Jessica Walter, etc. I only acknowledged it wasn't Pleshette, and (in reference to the other actress I mentioned who left acting because of family tragedies) I acknowledged last night that the one with family tragedies wasn't Barbara Harris. That's all I've said in terms of acknowledging/not-acknowledging who it is. I can understand why some of you believe it's Baker. At this stage, I'm hesitant to suggest otherwise out of concern that it might disappoint you if it wasn't her.

by Anonymousreply 157March 6, 2014 6:22 PM

Well, it would make a hell of an interesting thread if you would suggest that it wasn't her (even if it is her ;)

by Anonymousreply 158March 6, 2014 6:25 PM

Actually, I'm glad R153 said my writing style was coy, hesitant and simpering. This wasn't an article I was entirely happy with--it didn't quite turn out the way I had hoped--and he just succinctly described what was wrong with it. I'm not trying to be self-deprecating, just honest.

by Anonymousreply 159March 6, 2014 6:27 PM

[quote]I'm hesitant to suggest otherwise out of concern that it might disappoint you if it wasn't her.

Oh Christ no, deny it, and they'll be off and running for another 4 pages.

Disappointment is like mother's milk to this bunch.

by Anonymousreply 160March 6, 2014 6:28 PM

I got all those contract players in TBOE mixed up. So interchangeable.

To HillPlaceBlog:

I enjoyed your Ana-Alicia interview; I find those last days of studio contract players so interesting.

Have you ever encountered Joan Van Ark? I found her performance in season six of KNOTS devastating. I cried when she touched the walls of her nursery. What are your thoughts on Lisa Hartman as Ciji vs. lisa Hartman as Cathy?

by Anonymousreply 161March 6, 2014 6:28 PM

I've not encountered Joan Van Ark, but I did meet Michele Lee and liked her. As for Ciji vs. Cathy--I preferred Ciji. She actually had a real part to play that season and she was tied to all the characters in such a intricate way. When Hartman came back as Cathy, it just wasn't the same. I didn't find her as interesting and she was just sort of "there" as opposed to having any real purpose.

I'm glad you enjoyed the Ana Alicia interview, thank you for reading it.

by Anonymousreply 162March 6, 2014 6:33 PM

"It is she," not "it is her."

Okay, it's a quibble, but it truly grieves me.

by Anonymousreply 163March 6, 2014 6:33 PM

It's Ms Baker. I'm waiting for the elderlezzies to come out now and talk about how she hit on them in some lesbian bar in San Francisco.Or commented on how beautiful she was. Gays guys are not the only ones with bitchy little war stories......

R157 Pleshette was such a beautiful and sassy one. Between Joanna Pettet and Suzanne who had the raspier sexier voice? Her cousin John was on Knots Landing of course. He looked like Woody Allen whereas Suzanne well looked hot. Funny how people from the same family can be such polar opposites looks wise.

by Anonymousreply 164March 6, 2014 6:37 PM

[quote]Funny how people from the same family can be such polar opposites looks wise.

Consider Della and Mason Reese.

by Anonymousreply 165March 6, 2014 6:41 PM

HillPlace--LOVE the article on Bissett. That's a classy lady.

by Anonymousreply 166March 6, 2014 6:42 PM

[quote]Was a contestant in the 1957 Miss Rheingold pageant, an annual promotion by Rheingold Beer (Liebmann Breweries), and was pictured on Rheingold beer cans issued during the promotion.

[quote]Doesn't sound like she's as classy as she claims to be!

It wasn't a bathing suit contest, R22. The contestants were mostly models that could be seen on the pages of Vogue and other style magazines. Miss Rheingold was featured in the ads in the same way Betty Furness spoke for Westinghouse refrigerators, Lauren Bacall for Fancy Feast, and Florence Henderson sang for Oldsmoble. I never saw Miss Rheingold pictured on a beer can, only in print ads. There were voting boxes in stores where there were photos of each contestant. It was bigger than Miss America in the northeast. Tippi Hedren was in the contest in 1953.

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by Anonymousreply 167March 6, 2014 6:42 PM

[quote] Have you ever encountered Joan Van Ark? I found her performance in season six of KNOTS devastating. I cried when she touched the walls of her nursery.

MARY! I can't stop laughing!

by Anonymousreply 168March 6, 2014 6:45 PM

You just know Ryan Murphy is raiding this thread for AHS casting ideas.

by Anonymousreply 169March 6, 2014 6:48 PM

The Miss Rheingold contest began in 1940. The brewery selected the first Miss Rheingold, Jinx Falkenburg, but the next twenty-four were chosen by popular vote. Over 35,000 taverns, delicatessens, and grocery stores had ballots for the contest. The contest was very popular and the number of votes cast was second only to Presidential elections.

by Anonymousreply 170March 6, 2014 6:48 PM

R165 Not exactly true. Della's "grandson Mason" was a dead ringer for her circa 1950!

by Anonymousreply 171March 6, 2014 6:48 PM

R169 Paula is great but if Ann were still alive she would have been a really nice choice. She probably would have scared the shit out of Ryan though. same think for Ms Baker. Diane's witchy cuntdom would really get to Ryan.

I love how sweet and unHollywood Jacqueline Bisset seems. Judging from Hill's article she is very well mannered and kind. Unlike 99 percent of that world.

by Anonymousreply 172March 6, 2014 6:54 PM

R164 Having talked with both Pettet and Pleshette, I'll give the edge to Pettet in terms of having the better speaking voice. Pettet had a smokey, sexy voice that still purred with femininity. I really liked Pleshette a lot, but by the time I dealt with her, I couldn't tell the difference between her or her husband when they answered the phone.

by Anonymousreply 173March 6, 2014 7:00 PM

164, thank you for mentioning Joanna Pettet. I have been trying to remember he name all night.

by Anonymousreply 174March 6, 2014 7:00 PM

R163 Sorry for the grammatical error there. Point taken.

by Anonymousreply 175March 6, 2014 7:01 PM

R166 I'm glad you enjoyed the Bisset article.

by Anonymousreply 176March 6, 2014 7:03 PM

I'm working on a couple of articles for HillPlaceBlog and hopefully you'll enjoy them. One is an article about Natalie Schafer's Mrs. Howell. The other is about Jess Walton from Young and the Restless and all her 1970s TV guest roles when she was a Universal contract player. I just have to find the time to write them!...

by Anonymousreply 177March 6, 2014 7:05 PM

This sounds like Lesley Ann Warren although she was never under contract to a studio, she DID appear on Broadway (110 IN THE SHADE,DRAT! THE CAT) early in her career and is best known for playing. CINDERELLA on TV. BUT BEHAVIOR WISE...this could have been her!!

by Anonymousreply 178March 6, 2014 7:14 PM

[R178] Lesley Ann Warren was under contract to Walt Disney...

by Anonymousreply 179March 6, 2014 7:24 PM

Dear Hill Place Blogger,

I enjoyed your article very much and bookmarked your blog for further reading. I am also enjoying this thread.

As a writer and editor of articles and ad copy for my employer, I have one suggestion for you. Your paragraphs are a bit long. Your blog would be easier to read if you included more paragraph breaks, perhaps two to three paragraphs for each segment.

That is my only critique.

All the best to you in finishing your book.

by Anonymousreply 180March 6, 2014 7:30 PM

R180 Thanks. You're right--my paragraphs are long and I'll try to space it out as you suggested. I just got used to the way it was formatted already and sometimes it helps to have an objective bystander like you.

by Anonymousreply 181March 6, 2014 7:37 PM

We have photographic proof of the winner!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 182March 6, 2014 7:42 PM

BTW, I was wrong about the photos being on the cans of beer. That was added in later years of the contest. It was a gimmick to get more people to vote.

by Anonymousreply 183March 6, 2014 7:45 PM

R174 No problem. Pettet was great on Night Gallery. She appeared in four episodes and did some great work on that show.The best one being The Caterpillar with her gay best friend, Laurence Harvey. Speaking of Rod Serling's Night Gallery,Diane Baker was on one of two of Rod Serling's all time favorite scripts, They're Tearing Down Tom Riley's Bar.Diane's best role by far. She tried to make it on film and on TV and her best performance came from the pen of Rod Serling.

by Anonymousreply 184March 6, 2014 7:50 PM

[R184] Pettet, when I interviewed her, affirmed that Night Gallery was her favorite project, especially the one where she played the model, "The Girl with the Hungry Eyes." She also indicated that, over time, she grew to like Casino Royale, even though she didn't want to do it at first. And she felt her best work was in The Group.

by Anonymousreply 185March 6, 2014 7:54 PM

Diane Baker became very close to Crawford after their meeting on "The Best of Everything". They later co-starred in "Strait-Jacket" and "Della", an unsold television pilot, then they had a falling out.

by Anonymousreply 186March 6, 2014 7:56 PM

My first thought was Sandra Dee, but she didn't do television.

by Anonymousreply 187March 6, 2014 7:59 PM

That Ana Alicia interview on the blog was a ton of fun. Makes me want to see more of Falcon Crest.

by Anonymousreply 188March 6, 2014 7:59 PM

Had a falling out with Joan? So I take it Baker was not Crawford's guest the night she prepared the Spanish dinner?

by Anonymousreply 189March 6, 2014 7:59 PM

[quote]Diane Baker became very close to Crawford after their meeting on "The Best of Everything". They later co-starred in "Strait-Jacket" and "Della", an unsold television pilot, then they had a falling out.

Did Diane use wire hangers?

by Anonymousreply 190March 6, 2014 7:59 PM

R185 Joanna was great in THE GROUP.

by Anonymousreply 191March 6, 2014 8:00 PM

For anyone who liked the Ana Alicia interview, you may want to read my original blog article called "The Single Handed Destruction of Falcon Crest by Kristian Alfonso's Pilar Ortega." I think I did that one last May or June. That helped lay the groundwork for the Ana Alicia interview.

by Anonymousreply 192March 6, 2014 8:01 PM

R184, I did a McCloud episode with Pettet when I was a child. It was driving me nuts that I could not remember her name. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 193March 6, 2014 8:01 PM

[quote]My first thought was Sandra Dee, but she didn't do television.

There's an article on HPB's blog about a TV movie with Sandra, Karen Valentine and Lesley Ann Warren.

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by Anonymousreply 194March 6, 2014 8:03 PM

Hill Place, I found that article, too. I'm reading all your stuff! Very rainy weather, so a perfect time for it.

by Anonymousreply 195March 6, 2014 8:05 PM

Who was that hot guy Joanna Pettet was with for a while, Alex something?

by Anonymousreply 196March 6, 2014 8:05 PM

R195 You're reading the Single Handed Destruction of Falcon Crest article? Thanks!

R196 Alex Cord

by Anonymousreply 197March 6, 2014 8:09 PM

Joanna was married for over 20 years to hunky Alex Cord before they divorced in 1989. They had one son who died from a heroin overdose in 1995.

Very cool looking couple.

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by Anonymousreply 198March 6, 2014 8:11 PM

"Falcon Crest" jumped the shark when Jane went from the tight perm to the wig with bangs.

by Anonymousreply 199March 6, 2014 8:15 PM

R194 Sandra Dee did two episodes of Rod Serling's Night Gallery.In the 70s and 80s she guested on other shows and did TV movies.So she did do TV.

R193. No problem. Pettet did feature work mostly in the 60s and in the 70s became a guest actress on many TV series. She did do Laurence Harvey's last film(which he also directed) called Welcome To Arrow Beach. It was a goreporn/slasher/bloodfest which was highly uncharacteristic of Pettet, Harvey and the eerily blue eyed Meg Foster.

by Anonymousreply 200March 6, 2014 8:20 PM

HillPLace, I love Kristian Alfonso. She is one of the hottest soap actresses of all time. However I share your pain in the whole FC debacle. She was great on Days it wasn't her fault that a New England Italian was playing a Hispanic woman!?

by Anonymousreply 201March 6, 2014 8:23 PM

R201 The title of the Falcon Crest-Kristian Alfonso article was a bit of hyperbole. I like her on Days as much as you do but really thought the whole Pilar character and storyline was messed up. I was really glad to hear, when I interviewed Ana Alicia, how she and Alfonso were friendly with each other even though, in essence, Alfonso was being brought in to replace AA's Melissa. The real person who bears the blame for the changes that year is Michael Filerman, the executive producer who took over that Season.

by Anonymousreply 202March 6, 2014 8:26 PM

I also liked the piece on the elitism and fake "everydayness" of Knots Landing. So spot on. Their houses on the cul-de-sac were, for many viewers, as unattainable as Southfork. That assumption of what middle class meant always got under my skin.

And I like Knots Landing, but I enjoyed all the points you made, especially about the folly of trying to cram Knots characters into the new Dallas.

by Anonymousreply 203March 6, 2014 8:30 PM

HPB, Earl Hamner the man behind Falcon Crest not only created The Waltons as well he wrote some of the best episodes of The Twilight Zone.

They might as well bring Knots Landing back rather than putting old Knots characters on the new Dallas.The ultra liberal Diane Baker can play a bitchy/cunty environmentalist who wants to destroy the cul-de-sac to save the birds.Worst of all she wants to have Abby stop using hairspray!

by Anonymousreply 204March 6, 2014 8:39 PM

R203 I loved all the 80s nighttime soaps. For awhile I thought Knots Landing might've been the best one, but watching Dallas on DVD reminds me how great it was. It was the flagship soap for a reason. I really preferred Season 1 through 4 of Knots Landing when Kenny and Ginger and Richard were still on it. They were the truly "ordinary" people on the show and losing them meant that the show was going in an upscale direction. I'm glad you appreciated the thesis of that article. I've got some Knots Landing fans who were annoyed with me for that one!

Another favorite was Flamingo Road, but I think most people don't remember that one too well...

by Anonymousreply 205March 6, 2014 8:42 PM

I developed a real appreciation for the early years, too.

As a kid, I watched the reruns on TNT and I remember loving Season 4 and when it switched to Season 5, it felt like an entirely different show. I liked mid-80s Knots, but it did lose something and they never got it back.

I'm one of those Knots fans who loves it but also likes being critical about it. It also had a faux-liberal thing going on (especially with Karen and Mack) that bugged me. I could never figure out where Greg Sumner was in terms of the left and right.

My experience with Flamingo Road is limited, but I have heard about the voodoo storyline.

by Anonymousreply 206March 6, 2014 8:48 PM

Flamingo Road, if you can find it, is terrific in the first season when Cristina Raines is the main character, the girl from the wrong side of the tracks that everyone wants to drive out of town. The voodoo storyline in Season 2 is good, but the greater emphasis on Morgan Fairchild later on turned me off to it. By the way, if you explore HillPlaceBlog, you'll find that Morgan Fairchild is someone I am not a fan of at all. Check out December 2012's "Affected Acting and Activism: Morgan Fairchild."

There was a certain "limousine liberalism" about Mack and Karen that reflected an entitled quality about them that I didn't like. I think Sumner was a libertarian. Seriously!

by Anonymousreply 207March 6, 2014 8:52 PM

Love this thread.

by Anonymousreply 208March 6, 2014 8:56 PM

I loved Flamingo Road!

by Anonymousreply 209March 6, 2014 8:57 PM

R205 After season 5 it became a much different show. The early years made it very special. When a fug like John Pleshette(he looked like woody Allen only worse!) has a job you know that the beautiful were not in vogue yet! I still loved the show later on with the young,hot and gorgeous Paige coming on. She was such a pretty young thing. I never liked the May-December ,Devane/Sheridan pairing on the show.

One of my favorite night time soap lines of all time came from Gary to Abby:"I might love you but I don't trust you!" Or something like that.....

by Anonymousreply 210March 6, 2014 8:57 PM

Sandra Dee and Karen Valentine were both 'Gidget' at some point. I remember the original airing of Daughters of Joshua Cabe on the ABC Tuesday Movie of the Week and I thought that was funny.

by Anonymousreply 211March 6, 2014 8:59 PM

Falcon Crest ended for me when they got rid of Laura Johnson as the saucy Terry. She was great and under used.

by Anonymousreply 212March 6, 2014 9:01 PM

R212 Agreed. Laura Johnson as Terry was great. She and Ana Alicia's Melissa were my favorite characters. I was always intrigued whenever the writers put them together in the same scene because there was always a competitiveness with both of them. I still enjoyed Seasons 6 and 7 of Falcon Crest, but it was a mistake to kill off Terry in the earthquake.

by Anonymousreply 213March 6, 2014 9:05 PM

R210 I actually liked Nicolette Sheridan as Paige. She was one of the few upscale characters on Knots Landing I liked, partly because she wasn't sanctimonious yet she was still earthy despite her wealth and privilege. She did some good work on that show.

by Anonymousreply 214March 6, 2014 9:21 PM

OK so it's Diane Baker.

I realize now that the only reason for the masked identity of this woman is because HillStBlues realized that if we all knew it was about less-than scintillating Diane Baker, we wouldn't have bothered reading the blog.

And I imagine it was one thing for her to make a horror film as a young not-terribly-in-demand starlet but quite another thing for her to angrily turn down a horror film years later as an elderly has-been (she remembered Joan all too well).

by Anonymousreply 215March 6, 2014 9:25 PM

You nailed it with Sumner: libertarian.

I will be laughing the rest of the day. So true.

by Anonymousreply 216March 6, 2014 9:25 PM

Isn't that some other Diane Baker in the 1957 Miss Rheingold ad? Our Diane Baker looked so much younger 2 years later in The Diary of Anne Frank.

by Anonymousreply 217March 6, 2014 9:27 PM

I wonder if one of the remaining soaps asked Ms Baker to come on. She would not only throw the script but rip ,burn AND then throw it! I can see Ms Baker playing an elderlez on GH for sure. She would be perfect for that show.She would out cunt Dr Obrecht and Ava for sure.

by Anonymousreply 218March 6, 2014 9:32 PM

Ana Alicia would be good on a daytime soap. She'd clean up there, I bet. I could see her on GH.

Diane Baker can go terrorize Dee Dee Halls on Days.

by Anonymousreply 219March 6, 2014 9:44 PM

Diane Baker and Horst Bucholz in. NINE HOURS TO RAMA (1963) on Fox Movie Channel, this Sunday morning. 8:30 am est; 7:30 am cst.

by Anonymousreply 220March 6, 2014 9:50 PM

Horst Buchholz was GORGEOUS.

by Anonymousreply 221March 6, 2014 9:55 PM

Buchholz was very funny in that Billy Wilder movie One Two Three.

by Anonymousreply 222March 6, 2014 9:58 PM

Yes he was R221. Beautiful shirtless too

by Anonymousreply 223March 6, 2014 9:59 PM

This was one of my favorite pictures to wank to in the '60s. NSFW.

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by Anonymousreply 224March 6, 2014 10:07 PM

Love this thread

by Anonymousreply 225March 6, 2014 10:19 PM

R224 I remember seeing that picture in Playboy Sex in the Cinema. Do you know the name of the film?

by Anonymousreply 226March 6, 2014 10:49 PM

R226 That was the magazine that I had back in the '60s. I think this is the movie (see link.)

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by Anonymousreply 227March 6, 2014 10:55 PM

I read the initial post last night and I was thinking Hope Lange or Diane Varsi, but Diane Baker is the perfect fit.

HillPlace has a great blog--besides the Adam 12 and 60s starlet entries, I liked the one on Charlie's Angels. Kate Jackson's head will explode if she reads it and sees HillPlace's convincing argument that Cheryl Ladd was the best actress on the show.

by Anonymousreply 228March 6, 2014 11:19 PM

Cheryl Ladd was always my favorite of them.

by Anonymousreply 229March 7, 2014 12:36 AM

It was so wrong to kill Laura Johnson off in that earthquake. She and David Selby were a hoot as a couple! There was so much that could have been done with them and it would've been much more entertaining than Susan Sullivan's Maggie going after the "bad boy." HPB what did you think of Morgan F's short stint on FC? I actually found her appealing for the first time. She was able to show some vulnerability with Jordan Roberts.

by Anonymousreply 230March 7, 2014 1:01 AM

Oh God The Best of Everything was on a couple of weeks back and I always forget it's Diane Baker as the annoying April!! And Robert Evans as the cad who seduces and dumps her.

Ana-Alicia was in the first years of Ryan's Hope, I think. She was a love interest for Patrick Ryan.

And Morgan Fairchild was co-host on Battle of the Network Stars with Howard Cosel from 1982(?) and she treated the job as if she were Barbara Walters. When she was on FC, I thought Laura Johnson cleaned the floor with her.

by Anonymousreply 231March 7, 2014 1:38 AM

Elizabeth Ashley?

by Anonymousreply 232March 7, 2014 1:53 AM

[quote]I think it's Suzanne Pleshette.

No, it can't be her. She had many women friends. All her pallbearers in fact were women.

She was also loved in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 233March 7, 2014 2:18 AM

What about Jill St John?

by Anonymousreply 234March 7, 2014 2:20 AM

Can't remem her real name other than 'Suzy'...she was in THE BEST OF EVERYTHING, the gal obsessed with Louis Jordan's character & was married to Bradford Dillman in real life.

by Anonymousreply 235March 7, 2014 2:36 AM

Yeah, Jill St John seems egotistical enough to fill the role.

by Anonymousreply 236March 7, 2014 2:38 AM

That was no actress R235. That was Suzy Parker.

by Anonymousreply 237March 7, 2014 2:40 AM

Lee Grant

by Anonymousreply 238March 7, 2014 2:40 AM

Julie Christie

by Anonymousreply 239March 7, 2014 2:42 AM

I don't do the lez-lez, honey.

by Anonymousreply 240March 7, 2014 2:51 AM

Oh god, is it Candice Bergen?

[quote]in Rich and Famous (1981) with Jacqueline Bisset.

[quote]In 1982, Bergen appeared in the Oscar-winning film Gandhi in which she portrayed documentary photographer Margaret Bourke-White. Bergen was nominated for a BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Supporting Role.[5]

[quote]She has also studied photography and worked as a photojournalist.

She was married to Malle which in her mind may give her a leg up.

Is Bisset the friend who provided the contact?

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by Anonymousreply 241March 7, 2014 2:53 AM

Sondra Locke?

by Anonymousreply 242March 7, 2014 2:59 AM

It's not Bergen. Among other things, she was never on THE FBI.

by Anonymousreply 243March 7, 2014 3:15 AM

What WAS the name of the actress who played Juanita Moore's daughter in Imitation of Life? Susan....something?

by Anonymousreply 244March 7, 2014 3:16 AM

Susan Kohner! Imitation of Life. All the Fine Young Cannibals. Wife of John Weitz. Mother of Paul and Michael Weitz.

But she was never on the FBI. I checked.

by Anonymousreply 245March 7, 2014 3:25 AM

"And Morgan Fairchild was co-host on Battle of the Network Stars with Howard Cosel from 1982(?) and she treated the job as if she were Barbara Walters. When she was on FC, I thought Laura Johnson cleaned the floor with her."

Wasn't Morgan's character on FC sexually abused as a child by Broadway's John McMartin?

Watched "The Best of Everything" recently on TCM, had forgotten how gorgeous Suzy Parker was in her prime.

by Anonymousreply 246March 7, 2014 12:05 PM

Jill St. John was Henry Kissinger's arm candy during the Nixon administration. Some complained of Kissinger's denture breath, but I guess Jill could take it.

by Anonymousreply 247March 7, 2014 12:07 PM

And Bergen has been on Broadway twice.

by Anonymousreply 248March 7, 2014 1:55 PM

Was Susan Kohner our SusieLee?

by Anonymousreply 249March 7, 2014 1:59 PM

I am suspicious of this blogger. Who appears to me to be struggling to manufacture some attention getting mystery to promote his blog and potential book.

It all smacks of kind of the standard blogger manipulation whereby the writer teases and cajoles an audience by floating some pointless "unsolved mystery" in the hopes of making a name.

It sometimes works, but the endless verbiage of the "tease" and the kind of self important way he uses 100 words where 5 would suffice lead me to be suspect of the whole thing.

I would also say it probably isn't difficult to manipulate a vain, insecure aging actress into behaving badly if you think it would make a great story.

by Anonymousreply 250March 7, 2014 2:00 PM

I can't believe that after three posts regarding sexy Horst Buchholz no one brought up this interesting little factoid:

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by Anonymousreply 251March 7, 2014 3:14 PM

Horst or "Horse"...after seeing this YOU decide:

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by Anonymousreply 252March 7, 2014 3:17 PM

253 responses!?! Are there really people who know and/or give a shit about Diane Baker? Lucy/Mame threads unbelievably get less posts than this C-list has-been. Has the DL world turned upside down? Is black white?

by Anonymousreply 253March 7, 2014 3:51 PM

Bless you, r253!!!!

by Anonymousreply 254March 7, 2014 3:52 PM

[quote]Was Susan Kohner our SusieLee?

No, SusieLee was Susan Kasznar, daughter of actor Kurt Kasznar.

by Anonymousreply 255March 7, 2014 4:16 PM

Yes, it seems Diane Baker fits the bill.

Well, Doggieees

by Anonymousreply 256March 7, 2014 4:17 PM

R42 Bergen was on Broadway in HURLY BURLY. The actress in question had never appeared on Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 257March 7, 2014 4:18 PM

Diane Baker's imdb autobiography states that she is a staunch liberal Democrat.

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by Anonymousreply 258March 7, 2014 4:20 PM

[quote]I am suspicious of this blogger. Who appears to me to be struggling to manufacture some attention getting mystery to promote his blog and potential book.

Sorry, but I'm not getting that at all. First of all, none of his many other blog posts has any kind of "mystery" like this one. Second, he didn't come here to post this information; it was sort of discovered by accident when someone linked to his post about "Adam-12" on another thread.

He comes across to me as someone who is genuinely interested in the subjects he writes about.

by Anonymousreply 259March 7, 2014 4:35 PM

This thread is awesome (we all know how rare great DL threads are these days)! Reading OP's blog made me feel like I'm a fucking JB Fletcher.

I've always liked Diane Baker and she seemed very down-to-earth and approachable in some interviews she did, but I guess that was all just an act. But on the other hand I would be offended too if I was thrown into the same bunch as Connie Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 260March 7, 2014 4:40 PM

the blog post was tl;dr entirely.

But I did skim it, and I found the author's perspective rather odd.

I mean...he's "writing a book." Did he have an actual book deal?

It sounds to me like he was just using this hobbyist book idea as an excuse to talk to former starlets.

It's totally unprofessional to spill the dirt on one of these ladies who was simply indulging the author's request. Did they get paid? Were they ever going to get paid?

So this guy gets free content, presumably to sell a book, and then trashes someone whose help he petitioned for free?

Tacky. This guy is obviously an amateur...some kind of fanboi with an axe to grind.

He's judging someone he does not even know...someone who was doing him a favor and possibly helping his career..except this is not his career. smh

by Anonymousreply 261March 7, 2014 4:45 PM

R262 [quote]Reading OP's blog made me feel like I'm a fucking JB Fletcher.

Just to clarify so we don't get R251's panties in an even bigger twist-- I am the OP and it is most definitely not MY blog. I wasn't even aware of it until a few days ago.

by Anonymousreply 262March 7, 2014 4:48 PM

r263/OP, thanks for bringing this here. It's been a fun thread based on some real gossip.

by Anonymousreply 263March 7, 2014 4:59 PM

Even if he's fanboi so what? Bisset, Pettet Baker,Pleshette etc so on were pretty attractive back in the day and some of these actresses actually possessed talent.Why shouldn't someone bring attention to some of these forgotten actresses.To his credit, he never named Diane Baker by name so if she is the cunt in question(which is painfully obvious at this point) who is he hurting? Diane felt she was a cut above the rest of them and she possibly has a point. In interviews she seems very gracious and forthcoming not cunty at all. Then again she's not being lumped in with other lesser actresses. Ms Baker becoming the head of that film school department has surely gone to her head.

I'm happy he had such a great experience with J Bisset. I've only heard great things about her. Same thing goes for Joanna Pettet who lost her beautiful son to a drug overdose. I think he was gay to boot.Tina Louise was portrayed in a decent light by HPB though I would have loved to she her face when he started talking about Gilligan's!

by Anonymousreply 264March 7, 2014 5:03 PM

[quote]Diane felt she was a cut above the rest of them and she possibly has a point

And you know this how?

by Anonymousreply 265March 7, 2014 5:15 PM

[quote]I mean...he's "writing a book." Did he have an actual book deal?

You don't need a contract or permission to write a book based on your own ideas.

[quote]It sounds to me like he was just using this hobbyist book idea as an excuse to talk to former starlets.

Even if the book were no more than a pipe dream, if the starlets agree to talk to him, then he has a perfect right to interview them.

[quote]It's totally unprofessional to spill the dirt on one of these ladies who was simply indulging the author's request. Did they get paid? Were they ever going to get paid?

If an interview subject has terms and conditions for the use of material they volunteer, including payment, it's up to them to make those restrictions known.

[quote]So this guy gets free content, presumably to sell a book, and then trashes someone whose help he petitioned for free?

Happens all the time. A list of people who weren't happy with the results of an interview they gave freely would fill an enormous book.

[quote]He's judging someone he does not even know...

Juries do this every day. They even opt to incarcerate people they don't know based on the evidence they receive. She obviously revealed enough of her true character to the author for him to form a judgment on it.

[quote]someone who was doing him a favor and possibly helping his career..except this is not his career.

Writing is like acting. In most cases you have to start doing it on your own before you can make a career of it.

You're just mad because Charlie Nobody isn't impressed with an arrogant screen actress. I imagine you are also seriously pissed off at Lupita's brother photobombing Ellen's Oscar selfie.

by Anonymousreply 266March 7, 2014 5:20 PM

Whoever is J.B. Fletcher and figured out the star in question is Baker deserves an award. Great work! Time for a gay(er) reboot of MSW.

by Anonymousreply 267March 7, 2014 5:29 PM

Speaking of 60's starlets " DIANE McBAIN Almost Forgotten" by Michael Michaud and Ms. McBain will be in bookstores soon.

by Anonymousreply 268March 7, 2014 5:30 PM

Air-headed and inarticulate, just as the blogger described.

I think its Angie Dickenson who said she's a shit. Love Angie.

Fabulous thread. Thanks OP.

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by Anonymousreply 269March 7, 2014 5:32 PM

R266 I wrote "possibly." I like many of the actresses that You must have missed it even though you re-posted it. I also mentioned that being the department head at an acting university must have gone to her head.Reading HPB's blog post of the actress in question AKA Diane Baker was a revelation. Add to the fact that her best performance of all time wasn't in a feature but on Rod Serling's Night Gallery knocks her down a peg. Then again along with Twilight Zone ,Rod Serling's Night Gallery was one of the best shows ever on TV. Even Joanna Pettet's favorite project was Night Gallery if that means anything.

R267 True.HPB has a good blog and out of the OP's original who is this actress/cunt has come a great thread. Hopefully some other threads will come of this.

People mentioned Suzy Parker. She was supposedly very funny about her looks she didn't take her beauty that seriously. However she was such a beautiful thing.She's another one that did both Twilight Zone and Night Gallery. Both of those shows allowed someone like Parker to step outside the boundaries of a typical Hollywood role.

by Anonymousreply 270March 7, 2014 5:34 PM

Baker's work bio at the Art Academy, obviously written by her. Its amusing in parts in a self-absorbed way.

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by Anonymousreply 271March 7, 2014 5:44 PM

[quote]Krakatoa: East of Java, a terrible big-budget disaster movie (made all the more ridiculous by the fact that Krakatoa is west of Java.)

R57 Hilarious. You gotta love Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 272March 7, 2014 6:04 PM

HPB, I have bookmarked your FALCON CREST/Kristian Alfonso blog entry for later reading. I can't wait! As I stated before, writing out the force that was Ana-Alicia' Melissa Agretti was a big mistake.

I likewise share your admiration for the lovely Lynda Day George. She was always one of my favorite actresses of the era. Her turn as Fausta Grebles, the Nazi Wonder Woman on the other Lynda's WONDER WOMAN was fantastic!

Do you have any posts on Skye Aubrey? There was alway a quality about her that I found appealing. Plus she was one of the few more zaftig actresses, which set her apart from the masses.

by Anonymousreply 273March 7, 2014 6:13 PM

Diane McBain! Haven't thought of her in years!

by Anonymousreply 274March 7, 2014 6:25 PM

McBain was one hot, sexy piece back in the day. Perfect for good-girl-gone-bad-girl roles like CLAUDELLE INGLISH. With able assistance from Connie Ford as her restless mother.

by Anonymousreply 275March 7, 2014 9:46 PM

Watching the clip posted by R270, it's amazing to me how much Diane Baker looks like Laura Bush now.

by Anonymousreply 276March 7, 2014 9:57 PM

Wasn't Diane McBain in "The Manchurian Candidate"?

by Anonymousreply 277March 7, 2014 10:11 PM

Why did Mr. Hollywood, er, I mean the HillStreetSlogger leave the discussion?

Is it because as Mr. Hollywood he is a forty year old world travelling, strangely old world hunk, or because The Blogger, who is also he, is obviously at least seventy and living in the past, as are his subjects? He is charming, and does know a lot about a bit.

You guys spend all day sleuthing Diane Baker, but miss that the blogger is also Mr. Hollywood?

I asked the Tarot cards, and they confirmed this. The situation is dire, Mr. Blogger, but it is not as bad as you fear. The cards have a message for you.

by Anonymousreply 278March 7, 2014 10:13 PM

Diane Baker has a connection to Y&R's Melody Thomas Scott, both were in Hitchcock's "Marnie".

by Anonymousreply 279March 7, 2014 10:13 PM

R279 You're a bore. Go away.

by Anonymousreply 280March 7, 2014 10:40 PM

I like this guy's blog. His view on daytime soaps is refreshing, but I detect a troubling anti-"Knots Landing" bias.

In my opinion, "Knots Landing" was the best of the great prime-time soaps of the 1980's-1990's.

by Anonymousreply 281March 7, 2014 10:44 PM

R277 Good call!

by Anonymousreply 282March 7, 2014 11:04 PM

The truth is often boring to soap fans R281.

Did Kay Lenz try to contact you? She came to me during this reading, but I think the message is for Mr.HollyBlog.

by Anonymousreply 283March 7, 2014 11:29 PM

No R278 unless she was in the Meryl Streep remake. But not in the original.

by Anonymousreply 284March 7, 2014 11:30 PM

I've been at work all day and am just catching up with this thread right now.

R284 I'm flattered that you're even talking about me and my blog!

R279 I have no idea who is Mr. Hollywood. Until Wednesday evening, I wasn't even familiar with DataLounge. But Mr. Hollywood does sound interesting, based on what I've read here, so I appreciate the comparison.

R274 I'm glad you liked the Falcon Crest and Lynda Day George articles. I have not thought about writing re: Skye Aubrey, but I am thinking of blogging about her TV movie "The Phantom of Hollywood" (1974) at some point.

R 260 R265 R267 R271 Thank you.

R261 It was Stella Stevens, not Connie Stevens.

R254 I'm as shocked as you are that people seem this interested in my blog article.

R230 I wrote about Morgan Fairchild on my blog in December 2012. You can find the article in the menu along the right side of the page. I do talk about her on Falcon Crest in that piece.

In general: I posted this on my blog today, but also wanted to share it here. I just saw some of the comments about me on Datalounge. Well, as someone once said, you can't please 'em all. And I'm glad someone commented that I wasn't the person who started the Datalounge thread about this article. I wasn't promoting it (which has been online for more than 6 months now since September), and I can even understand how people who don't know me could be suspicious about my motives for writing this article. Like I said, I was just sharing a life experience that influenced how I try to treat people with some dignity and respect. My not naming the actress had more to do with the fact that I was trying to share a personal life experience rather than "outing" her. If I were truly all the things that people have criticized me for, I would just said her name from the beginning, but I didn't. I didn't invite this guessing game, though I appreciate the OP's interest in the article. Also, it wasn't so much that this actress didn't want to be lumped with Stella Stevens or Tina Louise (or that she put herself in the same category as Maggie Smith and Judi Dench) that was the real issue. The real issue was that she agreed to do the interview and then kept delaying whether she was ever going to schedule it when a simple "no" would've sufficed. But I realize there's nothing you can do to convince people who think otherwise.

For the critics who call me a "fan boi" or an "amateur,"--I admit it, I am a fan of movies and TV and I am not making a living as a professional writer. I have a career outside of my writing. And I should have finished that book project ages ago both to prove something to myself and to demonstrate how serious I am about my writing. So I can't dispute the criticism lodged against me by a few folks who didn't like this article, and I even want to thank my critics because their comments were very thought provoking. But I do appreciate the positive responses by people who seem to like my writing. To those individuals, again, thank you. I know I've said Thank You quite a few times this week and I hope you can sense my sincerity when I say it.

by Anonymousreply 285March 7, 2014 11:43 PM

HillPlaceBlog, don't listen to the few "haters" - you obviously are a good writer and have some interesting stories to share

Thanks for posting here

by Anonymousreply 286March 7, 2014 11:59 PM

Is there any way of introducing Angel Tompkins to this discussion?

by Anonymousreply 287March 8, 2014 12:01 AM

I loved Lynda Day George, particularly on Mission Impossible. I think she was just about everything in the 70's. I remember the Marcus Welby ep where Kim Darby played her sister, and there was a secret about a baby Lynda had and passed off to Kim.

There were so many great 70's young leading ladies: Jamie Smith Jackson, Pamela Sue Martin, Kay Lenz, Debralee Scott, Lisa Eilbacher, Glynnis O'Connor, Audrey Landers (before she took on the bimbo act). These ladies made the 70's.

by Anonymousreply 288March 8, 2014 12:22 AM

Lynda Day George's FINEST moment on film. Perhaps the greatest 25 seconds worth of acting by anyone at any time.

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by Anonymousreply 289March 8, 2014 12:26 AM

Sian Barbara Allen!!!!

by Anonymousreply 290March 8, 2014 12:27 AM

Has Elizabeth Ashley been ruled out? She was a starlet on the 60's. And thee are many who love her, that lovely Elizabeth Ashley.

by Anonymousreply 291March 8, 2014 12:27 AM

Ashley has done a ton of stage work. She does not fit the description at all.

by Anonymousreply 292March 8, 2014 12:29 AM

For the record, I am not a hater of the HillStreetStrangler. He is charming.

I am just too damn young to know what you are all talking and getting so excited about? And I am 48!

I do know Kay Lenz. She used to babysit my mother.

I am here in my psychic capacity, not to offer free readings, but to greet Mr. Blogger. I too must follow my calling. I have a message for him.

The rest of you kids just carry on. Y'all are having a good time.

by Anonymousreply 293March 8, 2014 12:31 AM

R294 Thanks. You're not so bad yourself. Your message?

by Anonymousreply 294March 8, 2014 12:34 AM

"There were so many great 70's young leading ladies: Jamie Smith Jackson, Pamela Sue Martin, Kay Lenz, Debralee Scott, Lisa Eilbacher, Glynnis O'Connor, Audrey Landers (before she took on the bimbo act). These ladies made the 70's"

I used to love Glynnis O'Connor

by Anonymousreply 295March 8, 2014 12:54 AM

For the love of God, IT'S DIANE BAKER.

by Anonymousreply 296March 8, 2014 1:04 AM

R265 Tina Louise didn't seem at all fazed when we discussed Gilligan's Island. In fact, she insisted that she doesn't hate the show or the role of Ginger and that the public's perception of her has more to do with not wanting to live in the past than being excessively annoyed with the show. When I did a follow-up interview with her, she said that she realized she hadn't talked about the show enough and offered to talk more about it. The only thing she seemed reluctant to discuss were two bad B movies she made in 1983 after a strike when she needed to make some money, "Evils of the Night" and "Hell Riders" (which I blogged about in Feb 2013). But even then, she answered the questions I had about them.

by Anonymousreply 297March 8, 2014 1:15 AM

If it is indeed Baker, I'm not surprised. She always seemed slightly "off" to me. Something in the eyes. Like James Farantino, but not nearly as creepy. Dude had crazy eyes.

by Anonymousreply 298March 8, 2014 1:18 AM

Isn't EVILS OF THE NIGHT co-starring Julie Newmar?

by Anonymousreply 299March 8, 2014 1:19 AM

Yes. She spoke highly of Newmar, called her a very sweet person.

by Anonymousreply 300March 8, 2014 1:22 AM

292, Elizabeth Ashley, like a great many women guessed at here, is a Broadway leading lady. The woman in question, had, according to Hill Place, has limited theater credits and, to HillPlace's knowledge, has never done Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 301March 8, 2014 1:23 AM

That's great to know, HPB. I am loving this thread!

by Anonymousreply 302March 8, 2014 1:34 AM

Yes r297, that's exactly what I sad when I saw her on House.

by Anonymousreply 303March 8, 2014 1:39 AM

HauntingHill

The traffic on your thread is very busy. You have created quite a stir in children of the 1940s by calling Diane Baker not so nice things in your coy, hesitant way. She was once in the cooler with Joan Crawford, so your audience is captive. And yet you wish them to be more imaginative and free. You must examine your motives and get down with the swirl.

I do have a full reading for you, with two most important messages. You know I will be here for you. But all energies are crossed now, and my own superior skills are threatened by too many faces and voices long forgotten. And that's just the posters on this thread. Ha.

Listen, Shirley Knight called, but I told her she isn't dead yet and that she should have agreed to speak with you first.

You know it's true. I got more.

by Anonymousreply 304March 8, 2014 2:30 AM

R305 Tell Ms. Knight I send my regards back to her.

by Anonymousreply 305March 8, 2014 3:06 AM

R305 Very weird I just watched Petulia the other night. Shirley was pretty good in it.I guess she was sending me a message as well. Pippa Scott was in it too...boy Maura West is trying really hard to be Pippa Scott on GH isn't she? Sometimes even more than Carroll Baker.

Someone mentioned James Farentino? He was in two pretty good Night gallery episodes. One with his then wife(Michele lee of Knots Landing fame) called When Aunt Ada Came to Stay. He also appeared in an episode with Joanna Pettet called The Girl With The Hungry Eyes. According to HPB, that was her favorite episode of Night Gallery. They tried to make the relationship as sexually charged as they could for the time and yet it doesn't seem so risque now.

Kay Lenz....David Cassidy used to give his huge schlong to that woman. She was fine though. I remember when she did the Infatuation video by Rod Stewart and saying:"she could turn a gay boy straight!"

Ms Diane Baker was not as bad as some of the Z list actresses but she was in no way in the class of Maggie Smith or Judi Dench.When I meet her I will mention how "great" she was in Night Gallery or one of her other lesser and hacked out TV appearances.

by Anonymousreply 306March 8, 2014 3:30 AM

Hill, I just reread your blog and for the life of me, I don't understand what you said about this actress that was so inflammatory, that her name could not be identified. True, it's not a particularly flattering profile but hardly a smear if you consider yourself a real writer or biographer.

Can you admit now that the lady is Diane Baker? Or if not, say it is not her so we can move on?

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 307March 8, 2014 3:37 AM

R308 OK. It is not Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 308March 8, 2014 3:39 AM

Get out! It's really not Diane Baker? Any more clues you can give us?

by Anonymousreply 309March 8, 2014 4:09 AM

R310 back to the FBI list

Diane Keaton Sandra Locke Vera Miles Diana Muldaur Annette O'Toole Stefanie Powers Brenda Vaccaro Donna Mills Anne Baxter Lindsay Wagner

But haven't just about all of these actresses done theatre? girl next door? debuted in big hit? big 60s flop? developing world filming? mini series?

Diane Baker seems the likely lady.

by Anonymousreply 310March 8, 2014 4:22 AM

Hill,

Would you consider telling us the names of all the 15 actresses you have interviewed?

by Anonymousreply 311March 8, 2014 4:23 AM

They include: Jacqueline Bisset, Susannah York, Joanna Pettet, Tina Louise, Jane Merrow, Barbara Rush, Stella Stevens, Barbara Luna, Anne Helm, Deborah Walley, Julie Sommars, Arlene Golonka, Linda Henning, Bridget Hanley, Lois Nettleton.

Why do you ask?

by Anonymousreply 312March 8, 2014 4:28 AM

Lois Nettleton? Fantastic. I always enjoy seeing her work.

Can you tell us something about her that you found interesting?

by Anonymousreply 313March 8, 2014 4:41 AM

Lois was a very sweet and genuine lady. I regarded her as highly as I do Bisset. She lived in West Hollywood and sang in her church choir. In fact, she said she was on her way to choir practice after our interview. She said, except for work, she never missed choir practice on Tuesdays. She also told me that she loved true crime and mystery and horror novels and really liked being in "Deadly Blessing" (1981) for Wes Craven and wished she had done more horror films. She said the role she got the most fan mail, and fan feedback, for was playing the lesbian who falls in love with Betty White on Golden Girls. Joanna Pettet thought highly of Lois. Pettet worked with her on "Hotel" and said "You can give Lois the phone book to act from and she'll bring out real emotions and cry buckets of tears for you!"

The story I recalled her recounting was her memory of sitting next to a serviceman returning from Vietnam on a plane flight. This was sometime in the late 60s/early 70s. Lois said she was raised to regard the military and police and firefighters with respect, not suspicion or animosity, so she chatted with him throughout the flight. As the plane was landing, because the young man hadn't been back to the United States in awhile, she told him, "You might encounter people who'll give you a hard time because you're in uniform, but I want you to know that there's a lot of us who care about our military service members and we want you to come home safely." It wasn't cool or hip for actors to express any sort of support for the military during that time, so I thought that that demonstrated who Lois was as an individual.

by Anonymousreply 314March 8, 2014 4:50 AM

Carol Lynley is not happy HillStreet. She says she is hungry and that you are in danger.

Your spirit guides are worried for your naive soul on DataLounge. You are now very afraid of disappointing people and you will. Kindness does not count here, but Kay Lenz feels hurt. You didn't think she was pretty enough to talk to? But she is not the answer.

Don't worry, there is a small winning tomorrow evening, and a great reworking of your material in the future.

Lesley Anne Warren has never heard of you. That in itself is lucky, isn't it Mr. Hill?

by Anonymousreply 315March 8, 2014 4:56 AM

Psychic, Lesley Ann Warren played a vampire ion Night Gallery and she told me to tell HPB that he's doing a bang up job!She used Kabbalah centered telepathy to convey that message to me.

Carol Lynley did a Night Gallery that was quite chilling with the late Bill Bixby. I think some sort of crazy Satanic messages was sent from her on that teleplay. I think you can decipher it....

Kay Lenz was not on Night Gallery but she was fucking gorgeous.What a bod on that one. She would be honored to talk to HPB.

by Anonymousreply 316March 8, 2014 5:05 AM

Hill, thank you for sharing a bit of Lois N with us.

It appears via Wiki, Lois was awarded the Emmy twice and nominated two times more. Her TV resume is impressive , appearing on just about every major TV series of the period.

I love this thread !

by Anonymousreply 317March 8, 2014 5:10 AM

Sian Barbara Allen, Angel Thompkins and Arlene Golonka -- only on DL kids.

by Anonymousreply 318March 8, 2014 5:26 AM

Loving this thread too! Where else could you find out about Lois Nettleton? This is just too damn cool! Thanks again HPB!

by Anonymousreply 319March 8, 2014 5:34 AM

Apropos of nothing, I met Susan Dey once about 25 years ago. She was very pretty but her slightly crossed eyes and duck lips always bothered me. I googled to see what she looks like now at age 61 and was surprised to see she is lovely. Tina Louise has not fared as well, although she is much older.

by Anonymousreply 320March 8, 2014 5:38 AM

HPB r102 any stories on Patty Duke?

by Anonymousreply 321March 8, 2014 5:47 AM

Wow, Hill, thanks so much for the stories about Lois N!

She was my favorite guest star on Golden Girls, and I always feel a little thrill when I catch her in Murder She Wrote or other great 80s tv shows.

I'm so delighted that the GG cast such a warm and gracious lady as their lesbian character.

by Anonymousreply 322March 8, 2014 5:52 AM

Is the actress in question Mariette Hartley? Could you relate any stories on Bridget Hanley?

by Anonymousreply 323March 8, 2014 6:00 AM

Mariette Hartley, little bird? I don't think so. She's about 5'10".

When guessing please includes answers to the clues the blogger has given us.

by Anonymousreply 324March 8, 2014 6:19 AM

Was there something about the actress' height in the clues?

by Anonymousreply 325March 8, 2014 6:24 AM

Oh c'mon-how could it NOT be Diane baker. She fits all the clues!

by Anonymousreply 326March 8, 2014 6:28 AM

Another actress referred to the mystery actress as a little bird. A shit.

by Anonymousreply 327March 8, 2014 6:33 AM

I agree, it certainly sounds like Diane Baker.

I'm presently considering Susan Oliver:

she became one of the first TV female directors,

she co-starred in the Amelia Earhart mini-series and she too was a pilot (decorated)

it was generally believed she was a lesbian

she appeared more than once on the FBI

she appeared in a number of 1960s flops

but her debut was not in a fabulous film that I can find

and I'm not sure she would be considered the girl next door type.

by Anonymousreply 328March 8, 2014 6:42 AM

I don't like the tone of this thread.

Diane Baker was the best thing in the mess that was MARNIE.

She seems quite humble and down to earth in this clip.

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by Anonymousreply 329March 8, 2014 7:04 AM

R330 that's a promo clip for the university where Baker is Executive Director of Acting. Of course she's scripted and has her best foot forward.

I still think the mystery actress is indeed Diane Baker. She fits the bill perfectly.

by Anonymousreply 330March 8, 2014 7:08 AM

Of course it's Diane Baker and of course the author of the blog has to deny it's Diane Baker in order to continue to protect her anonymity as it were. We don't need his confirmation. There's no one else it can be.

by Anonymousreply 331March 8, 2014 7:54 AM

I wonder WHET Rosemary Forsythe?

by Anonymousreply 332March 8, 2014 8:14 AM

Susan Oliver died in 1990. I don't think the blogger would be protecting a dead woman.

(But I wish she'd been on his interview list if she was still alive at the time)

by Anonymousreply 333March 8, 2014 8:54 AM

r33 blogger said he was not protecting the actress...he's protecting the friend of the actress as they got on well.

by Anonymousreply 334March 8, 2014 9:05 AM

R322 I never encountered Patty Duke, sorry. The thing that comes to mind about Duke is that Tina Louise called her the best actress she ever worked with. They did the TV movie Look What's Happened to Rosemary's Baby. She just remembered Duke as being a very generous actress and liked how she stuck around and acted off-screen when they were doing Louise's closeups. Sometimes, the other actor just leaves and the script supervisor does the actor's lines when they're doing the other person's closeups. She said Duke stayed while Louise's closeups were done and put as much energy into her performance as if the camera were on her so that Louise had someone to play off of. She said she'd work with Patty Duke again anytime.

R324 Bridget Hanley is really great, a very family oriented person and humble. She is still very close with the cast of Here Come the Brides.

by Anonymousreply 335March 8, 2014 10:49 AM

Let me ask you a question, if it's OK. For the people who stuck around with my blog and read my other articles, which ones did you like the best and why? Did anyone read the Morgan Fairchild article from Dec 2012? Would you be interested if I did more interviews for the blog?

by Anonymousreply 336March 8, 2014 10:59 AM

Wait.

If the total interviewed is 15, and he named them all above r313

and Diane Baker is not one of the 15.

????

by Anonymousreply 337March 8, 2014 11:06 AM

R338 Mystery actress never gave HillPlace an interview. She kept stringing him along with promises of one, but never seriously made time to do it. That was part of his issue with her, that she wasn't just upfront from the beginning about her intentions with him and he would have preferred a clear-cut refusal.

by Anonymousreply 338March 8, 2014 11:11 AM

As someone who's done my own share of showbiz interviews the lesson I took from this blog post was "learn how to take a hint." If somebody really doesn't want to be interviewed, leave them the hell alone.

by Anonymousreply 339March 8, 2014 11:51 AM

Read press agent Susan Shulman's BACKSTAGE PASS TO BROADWAY to understand what a nightmare it can be working with Lesley Ann Warren. I always liked her until I read that book. Now I understand why the Weissler's of all people!!) refused to offer her Roxie in the revival of CHICAGO.

by Anonymousreply 340March 8, 2014 11:56 AM

R340 I am the first person to agree with you and, as I mentioned in the article, that's what I ultimately learned in this situation...

by Anonymousreply 341March 8, 2014 11:59 AM

"No, SusieLee was Susan Kasznar, daughter of actor Kurt Kasznar."

Thanks, R256. I hope she's well.

Back on topic: HSB, thanks for joining us and sharing. It's been a great thread and a welcome change from what DL has become. It reminds me how fun and interesting DL used to be (the recent Oscars threads did, too).

by Anonymousreply 342March 8, 2014 12:10 PM

Sorry, I meant HPB, not HSB.

by Anonymousreply 343March 8, 2014 12:11 PM

I am a fellow 60s starlet interviewer, author and friend of HillPlace. He is a hugely talented writer; his Blogs as you can read are well-researched and hugely entertaining; and I lived his drama with this actress. I can vouch that he just reported the facts as any good journalist would. And his own opinions on her I surely share. The ego on her was outrageous considering the crappy TV movies and guest shots she appeared in.

by Anonymousreply 344March 8, 2014 12:35 PM

A Patty Duke story. Sorry for the long set up. When I was at UCLA, we did The Miracle Worker. The director was the daughter of one of the original actors; so, she had all of the various re-writes in the script pre-opening. This was also, about the time Patty Duke was doing the TV version were she played Anne Sullivan. Somehow word got out that Patty Duke was on campus. Two queens were in the student lounge doing the opening of the Patty Duke Show. Patty Duke pops into the doorway singing, "because they're cousins..." and finishes the song with the two guys. She could not have been nicer.

I also babysat for her kids. She seemed like any other mother.

by Anonymousreply 345March 8, 2014 12:41 PM

Saw Susan Oliver on a 1960s "My Three Sons" episode on MeTV recently, playing Robbie's tutor and dating his father at the same time. Susan was absolutely gorgeous then, around the same time she was also a regular on "Peyton Place".

Anyone remember Tiffany Bolling, who was the flavor of the month for a while in the late 1960s/early 1970s? I recall a haunting episode of "The Name of the Game", where she was engaged to James Farentino but ultimately committed suicide.

by Anonymousreply 346March 8, 2014 1:37 PM

At some point I plan to blog about Tiffany Bolling, particularly her 1972 LP titled simply "Tiffany" that you can now download from Itunes.

by Anonymousreply 347March 8, 2014 1:39 PM

thank you for the Patty Duke stories I enjoyed them

by Anonymousreply 348March 8, 2014 1:55 PM

R341 I wanted to enjoy Her book but I thought that it was lacking a lot of information that was promised to us

by Anonymousreply 349March 8, 2014 1:56 PM

So Hill and friend,

May we assume then, based on your posts here in the DL, that Mystery Actress has an even less impressive work history than Diane Baker?

by Anonymousreply 350March 8, 2014 3:47 PM

Stephanie Powers fits the original blog entry profile rather well. Not sure which big 60s flop she was in--she didn't make that many movies, but there are a few--"Die, die my Darling" shows up. She always has seemed...self-important to me.

by Anonymousreply 351March 8, 2014 5:12 PM

R352 The remake of "Stagecoach" (1966) that Powers appeared in could be considered the flop 60s movie...

by Anonymousreply 352March 8, 2014 5:16 PM

it doesn't really matter at this point who the mystery actress is. i personally believe it is D.B. but it could also be some of the others. what does matter is how entertaining this thread has been (pun intended)

by Anonymousreply 353March 8, 2014 5:19 PM

R354 totally agree

by Anonymousreply 354March 8, 2014 5:26 PM

[quote]They include: Jacqueline Bisset, Susannah York, Joanna Pettet, Tina Louise, Jane Merrow, Barbara Rush, Stella Stevens, Barbara Luna, Anne Helm, Deborah Walley, Julie Sommars, Arlene Golonka, Linda Henning, Bridget Hanley, Lois Nettleton.

After seeing that list I'm beginning to think Diane Baker was right, it would be kind of insulting to be included as part of that group.

by Anonymousreply 355March 8, 2014 5:31 PM

Pamela Tiffin?

by Anonymousreply 356March 8, 2014 5:40 PM

.

by Anonymousreply 357March 8, 2014 6:32 PM

He listed the fifteen actresses he interviewed for his book. He also stated that while he spoke to the subject of his blog post on several occasions to set up an interview, she never granted him the interview he was seeking. Hence, that actress would not appear in the list of actresses he "interviewed." I also believe it's Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 358March 8, 2014 6:40 PM

There's only one hit that comes out of a Constance Towers show, and that's me baby, remember?

by Anonymousreply 359March 8, 2014 6:45 PM

Powers' bio only shows one appearance on THE F.B.I. and her first film was TAMMY, TELL ME TRUE. Not exactly a blockbuster.

by Anonymousreply 360March 8, 2014 6:47 PM

I've decided to take this article off my blog. "Mary Lamb" left me a very candid and thought provoking comment on the blog and I decided the resulting article didn't match my original intent.

"Mary Lamb," I approved your comment, wrote a response to it, and then decided to take the article down because your words were very thought provoking.

I regret if this article has caused such friction. Thanks for reading.

Since I've taken the article down, I am going to share "Mary Lamb's" comments here so you can read what she had to share with me:

"I'd like to respond to Ms. or Mr. Hill Place: It's apparent that you are incredibly, or should I say, incessantly grateful to this unnamed actress for teaching you a life lesson on how to treat whom you feel lessor or grander than yourself. Well, thank GOD you had this virtual encounter lest you'd have been treating everyone you'd ever met like sh-t. This was the most self-ingratiating slop I've ever read. It sounds as though you'd spoken to this actress three, maybe four times, one of which she was obviously distraught, and you make your assumptions in grandiose style. Perhaps, and I know this might hurt a bit, it was you that put her off? I don't sense a whole lot of self-awareness on your part. Have you ever, and it seems like it's been forever, entertained the idea that this unnamed actress might've had other issues that you weren't privy to? You do state that other actresses who did grant you, an unpublished author, interviews were eager to inform you of this unnamed actress' sexuality, not to mention some other unsavory tidbits but that was just fine with you. See the dichotomy there? I'd say it's a damn good thing that she was hesitant to be interviewed by you for your as yet unpublished work. So, at last, I ask you why the anonymity. Why, if you are so put off, to this day, by this actress, are you concealing her identity, and yours. This should be good. That is, if you have the balls to publish my comment."

by Anonymousreply 361March 8, 2014 6:49 PM

Oh, honey, ain't you a kick in the cooch! Last we saw your bony ass you were frozen on Cassadine island. I may have spent my soap career in the kitchen, but at least I didn't go for that sci-fi bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 362March 8, 2014 6:54 PM

R362 Very interesting, but more importantly, what was your response?

by Anonymousreply 363March 8, 2014 6:55 PM

R364 This was my response to Mary Lamb--

"Mary Lamb,

Your comments here are very thought provoking and it makes me reevaluate having ever written this article. I thought I had a story and a lesson to share and now I realize how the result may not have corresponded with my intentions. I regret that this piece offended you to the degree that it did and I hope you'll accept my sincere thanks for bringing this perspective to my attention."

by Anonymousreply 364March 8, 2014 6:56 PM

Connie Ford could be on Cassadine Island and she'd still have a dishrag over her shoulder.

God bless that woman. She is more than welcome to come haunt my house and call me a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 365March 8, 2014 6:57 PM

R365 You didn't answer Mary Lamb's question. Why conceal the name of the actress? You hint at who she is and I've deduced a few possibilities from your many qualifiers but I don't understand why you wouldn't want to reveal her identity being that she spurned you so evidently. Is she dead thereby unable to defend herself?

by Anonymousreply 366March 8, 2014 7:18 PM

I've already answered the question both here on DataLounge and on an earlier comment in the blog. I didn't name her because the purpose of the article was to share what I *thought* I had learned from the experience, not to out her. If I wanted to out her I would've just said her name. Also, I still have a lot of respect for her friend who put me in touch with her. I didn't want to offend or hurt the friend's feelings.

Anyway, I hope you understand why I decided to take the article down. I try not to be sanctimonious and "Mary Lamb" pointed out that the article could be construed as sanctimonious on my part. That was what was truly eye-opening for me.

by Anonymousreply 367March 8, 2014 7:22 PM

Fair enough.

by Anonymousreply 368March 8, 2014 7:32 PM

Hill, you can't let everybody who throws you a curve ball make you doubt yourself.

The article was GREAT.

by Anonymousreply 369March 8, 2014 7:36 PM

R370 Thanks. I think I can handle criticism and I think I've been able to weather some of the comments directed at me here on DL from people who didn't like the article. I could handle that. But, you see, one of the things in life I don't like is sanctimony. For example, I really hate logging onto Facebook and reading people's sanctimonious views about the world, and themselves, without any sense of self-reflection. I thought I was introspective enough that I wasn't like that. But "Mary Lamb" and her comments made me realize how sanctimonious that article could be at times. I can handle people telling me my writing stinks and I need to exercise brevity and all of that. I can even handle people calling me self-indulgent. But sanctimonious is the exception and I decided I didn't want to come across as sanctimonious.

If it's all right with you all, I am finished with talking about this article. If you want to discuss other topics and other articles from my blog, I'm certainly glad to oblige.

by Anonymousreply 370March 8, 2014 7:41 PM

This thread is exhausting. Can we end it now?

by Anonymousreply 371March 8, 2014 7:47 PM

no

by Anonymousreply 372March 8, 2014 7:49 PM

Thread officially finished. Goodbye DL and thanks (including the OP who posted my article)!

by Anonymousreply 373March 8, 2014 7:50 PM

That's not how it works, HPB.

And if you let the nasty comments get to you, they win.

Stick around. There's gold in them that hills!

by Anonymousreply 374March 8, 2014 7:51 PM

Mary Lamb = some sanctimonious cunt here in DL.

Adieu Hill.

by Anonymousreply 375March 8, 2014 7:52 PM

R376 Is it really necessary to call me a cunt? That's uncalled for. I accept HPB's explanation as to his thought processes because I am one who well understands and gratuitously dismisses lapse in propriety accordingly. I don't think HPB intended to out the unnamed actress but he did. I'm relatively sure I know who he was addressing and I take exception to his assertions. My point was and still is that with all his revelation he missed an important lesson that in my opinion would indeed be more beneficial. That would be a lesson in humility.

by Anonymousreply 376March 8, 2014 8:13 PM

Yes, Mary Lamb. You're a sanctimonious cunt.

Apparently you - and only you - know what's best for all.

by Anonymousreply 377March 8, 2014 8:20 PM

O the power of DL.

by Anonymousreply 378March 8, 2014 8:21 PM

I sincerely appreciate the words of support but I agree with Mary Lamb there's no need to call anyone names here. Mary Lamb, I hope you won't completely judge me for that one article, as I think the others I've written on my blog are of a very different nature. I take a lot of pride in my writing and I acknowledge that that article was not my finest. As information, I try to be humble and self-aware but I am also acknowledging that our severest critics can also be our greatest teachers. I aspire to humility every day, but I also acknowledge that it doesn't hurt to have an objective perspective on oneself. I hope there are no bad feelings between us.

by Anonymousreply 379March 8, 2014 8:21 PM

Just finished your FC/Alfonso article, HPB, and so agree with you. It's odd that FC regressed in a way by adding the Ortega family. It had started out with Gus and his family, which worked a bit better but was still eliminated by season two. And it's amazing that the producers hadn't learned their lesson by the time the last FC season came along. As much as I like Gregory Harrison, I hated the way his Michael Sharpe was forced down the collective throat of the viewers. And don't get me started on the horrific way they killed off Susan Sullivan's Maggie! I also read your Tina Louise guest starring blog post. What did you think of her performance in DEATH SCREAM? I remember a critic at the time lauding her for playing a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 380March 8, 2014 8:25 PM

R381 I thought Tina Louise was terrific in Death Scream. I'm glad you liked the Falcon Crest piece.

by Anonymousreply 381March 8, 2014 8:27 PM

R376 R378 R379 Nope. I do not know what's best for everyone. I do know, however, that HPB has infinitely more class than you and has shown himself to be gracious as to my criticism.

R380 No hard feelings at all and my comment was never meant to reflect on your writing, which is very well done, to say the least. I regret my 'slop' comment as I've since seen your eloquent responses, so please, forgive me for that. I'd like to add that I'm very interested in reading your other posts.

by Anonymousreply 382March 8, 2014 8:52 PM

[quote]I'd like to add that I'm very interested in reading your other posts.

So that I may tear them to shreds and demand their removal.

by Anonymousreply 383March 8, 2014 9:00 PM

Thanks Mary Lamb. I want to underscore that, despite my sharing of the anecdote from the actress who shared the rumor that the unnamed actress might be a lesbian, I stipulated in my article that there was no facts to support it, nor did I actually believe it myself. If I had any intent in sharing that anecdote it was to use the quote where the actress who spoke with me indicated that the unnamed actress wasn't friendly to other women. I hope you understand that.

As for the other articles I've written, I can be very opinionated about people like Julianne Moore and Morgan Fairchild on my blog but in those instances it's just my opinion formed from an outsider's perspective not necessarily anything I witnessed first-hand. Nevertheless, I hope you'll find those articles interesting and provocative.

No worries from my end about the "slop" comment. I've read articles online which provoked an intense reaction from me and I've written comments that were very direct and blunt as well.

If you all want to discuss starlets from the 60s and 80s nighttime soaps or other things, except for that article, I'd be glad to stick around DL...

by Anonymousreply 384March 8, 2014 9:01 PM

I'm not a paying member, but would someone who is be willing to start a brand new thread with another blog article of mine, such as the "I Still Pick Ginger" article about Tina Louise's work on "Gilligan's Island"? We could start a brand new thread and leave this one behind... (If not, I understand.)

by Anonymousreply 385March 8, 2014 9:07 PM

R384 You really like to stir the shit, don't you. Nothing like a total DL asshole who has to add his lame, nasty two bits without any constructive input whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 386March 8, 2014 9:18 PM

HPC, I don't think you have to worry about anyone honouring your request for a new thread, though, for economy's sake, you might have to wait until this one maxes out at 600 posts.

by Anonymousreply 387March 8, 2014 9:23 PM

I used to enjoy these actresses, as well as those mentioned:

Barbara Parkins

Leigh Taylor-Young

Anjanette Comer

by Anonymousreply 388March 8, 2014 9:25 PM

R388 Understood. Like I've indicated before, I'm new to DL and learning the nuances of it as I go along. I am just heartened by the level of interest--both complimentary and critical--that my blog and my writing seems to have engendered among some DL readers...

by Anonymousreply 389March 8, 2014 9:26 PM

Joan Hackett, Stefanie Powers, Denise Nicholas, Julie Sommars and Anjanette Comer are----FIVE DESPERATE WOMEN!!!

by Anonymousreply 390March 9, 2014 12:33 AM

Julie Sommars, when I interviewed her, said that the actresses on Five Desperate Women each wanted to do their closeups at the start of the day so that they would look their best. She joked, "We were Five Desperate Women and none of us wanted to do our closeups at the end of the day when we looked tired and rundown."

by Anonymousreply 391March 9, 2014 12:38 AM

Has anyone heard of me lately?

by Anonymousreply 392March 9, 2014 1:40 AM

I loved Julie Sommars (with Dan Dailey) in "The Governor and J.J." (Yes, I'm old.) Too bad it didn't last very long.

by Anonymousreply 393March 9, 2014 1:51 AM

Oh what Julie Sommars could say about that 1971 Emmy telecast when she handed the award to Patty Duke!!!

by Anonymousreply 394March 9, 2014 10:49 AM

Patty's infamous Emmy acceptance speech is on YouTube. I'll bet Desi, Jr. took her home and fucked her 'til dawn.

by Anonymousreply 395March 9, 2014 10:59 AM

If you are interested, I just posted a new article today. It's a discussion about actress Jess Walton, from The Young and the Restless, and her TV guest roles from the 1970s when she was a Universal Contract player. It's called "Guest Starring Jess Walton..."

by Anonymousreply 396March 9, 2014 3:36 PM

Leslie Parrish was the sexy blonde in "The Manchurian Candidate", not Diane McBain.

The Tiffany Bolling/James Farentino episode was on "The Bold Ones", not "The Name of the Game".

So many actresses often guest starred on the various 1960s/1970s prime time dramatic shows, i. e. Brooke Bundy, Sharon Farrell, Darlene Carr, Sian Barbara Allen, etc.

by Anonymousreply 397March 9, 2014 4:55 PM

[quote]Leslie Parrish was the sexy blonde in "The Manchurian Candidate", not Diane McBain.

Who was the sexy blond in PARRISH with Troy Donahue?

by Anonymousreply 398March 9, 2014 5:31 PM

Sharon Farrell had this sexy bar hag/slutty/heavy smoker vibe.Her real name is Sharon Forsmoe. It sounds like a permutation of Foursome.I always liked her and then she did Y & R as it was declining quality wise.

I've seen recent pictures of Sharon and she either goes to Kim Novak's surgeon or Joan Rivers gave her some tips on what to do.She had a nice cougar look going on and she ruined it by going the frozen face route.

by Anonymousreply 399March 9, 2014 5:53 PM

Sharon Farrell update.

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by Anonymousreply 400March 9, 2014 5:59 PM

Sharon's partner is a cute much younger black guy. Good for her. Like many May-December romances they look a little mismatched but if she's happy , good for her.

by Anonymousreply 401March 9, 2014 6:07 PM

Sharon Farrell! I had a crush on her after seeing her in THE REIVERS. She has had a difficult life.

by Anonymousreply 402March 9, 2014 6:09 PM

Sharon Farell : Another Hollywood train wreck.

by Anonymousreply 403March 9, 2014 6:10 PM

Diane Baker really was different from all those 1960s starlets. I can't remember her ever appearing in a bathing suit, for a film or even a publicity photo. She was almost always cast as the good girl in her early roles.

by Anonymousreply 404March 9, 2014 6:13 PM

Sharon Farrell was really good in Marlowe with James Garner. She was funny, annoying, pathetic, devious all at the same time in that movie. More memorable than Gayle Hunnicutt in that film, though neither were as memorable as Rita Moreno and her striptease at the end of the film.

by Anonymousreply 405March 9, 2014 6:30 PM

Gayle Hunnicutt was my neighbor in London. I'd regularly run into her with her little dog in the shops. Over time we started walking our dogs together, I not knowing for the longest time that she was indeed Gayle Hunnicutt.

She was a bit proper but very nice and an interesting and unaffected individual.

by Anonymousreply 406March 9, 2014 7:07 PM

Gayle Hunnicutt in her early work had a very thick Texas accent reflecting where she grew up. Then after she moved to England, she developed this decent English accent that was completely the opposite of her original one. Interesting how she completely made over herself. Glad to hear she was so nice.

by Anonymousreply 407March 9, 2014 7:11 PM

I remember Gayle as a very beautiful woman, even when she was on Dallas toward the end of its run.

by Anonymousreply 408March 9, 2014 7:19 PM

Hunnicutt was very sympathetic and appealing when she was on Dallas, but she arrived as the show was losing steam. But, she's enjoyed a very long career.

by Anonymousreply 409March 9, 2014 7:23 PM

The home she sold in London which was directly across the street from mine was featured on an episode of HGTVs Selling London. Worth a look for fun.

by Anonymousreply 410March 9, 2014 7:43 PM

Which episode of Selling London? Was she on it?

by Anonymousreply 411March 9, 2014 7:46 PM

I saw Gayle Hunnicutt in an episode of Return Of The Saint and she did a very convincing English accent.So she went all the way and went native unlike Madonna whose faux English accent was so transparently phony it wasn't even funny.

by Anonymousreply 412March 9, 2014 9:18 PM

I am in love with your blog, HPB. Thank you for sharing your wonderful stories. I was curious if Tina Louise had any thoughts on "Nightmare in Badham County." It is one of my favorites.

by Anonymousreply 413March 9, 2014 9:19 PM

Darn, you, HPB! From now on, stick to laudatory, feel-good interviews. My image of Ms. Baker is slightly tarnished, even though you insisted it wasn't her. Who's the next most plausible frequent guest star on The FBI?

by Anonymousreply 414March 9, 2014 9:33 PM

R414 Tina Louise remembers "Badham County" as a difficult experience. She was a bit cagey about it, but it had to do with how the prison locations reminded her of her childhood in boarding school. The producers tried to make Louise and Lana Wood do a lesbian nude scene for the European version. They refused. She had some difficulty because of how evil and racist the character was. She felt really bad playing that character. When she watched it the first time, she hated everything about it, including her performance. Later, she watched it again and realized her initial reaction was because she did a good job in that role.

by Anonymousreply 415March 9, 2014 9:54 PM

For all the people who hate Celebrity Caterer, THIS is the thread you deserve.

All tease with no resolution.

You all have gossip blue balls.

HPB, good job at stringing along the willing to a 600+ thread to nowhere.

Bravo.

by Anonymousreply 416March 9, 2014 9:58 PM

LOVE celebrity Caterer.

by Anonymousreply 417March 9, 2014 10:03 PM

Ah, R417---the inevitable steaming turd in the punchbowl! Go back to the One Direction and Bieber threads.

Those of us who are embittered, jealous twats are enjoying the info HPB is sharing with us. And count me as another CC fan as well.

by Anonymousreply 418March 9, 2014 10:12 PM

Sooooo...what was this all about?

by Anonymousreply 419March 9, 2014 10:21 PM

Its a mystery.

by Anonymousreply 420March 9, 2014 10:27 PM

Diane Baker burns up the screen in. NINE HOURS TO RAMA!!

by Anonymousreply 421March 9, 2014 10:42 PM

Lens Dunham

by Anonymousreply 422March 9, 2014 10:43 PM

That should read "aren't jealous, embittered twats," but given R417's post, it is no doubt obvious.

by Anonymousreply 423March 10, 2014 1:04 AM

I found an article about Gayle Hunnicutt putting her London house on the market and it looks like a beauty. I'm dying to find the HGTV segment about her house now.

by Anonymousreply 424March 10, 2014 1:13 AM

[quote]R399

Two blond actresses in PARRISH: DIANE McBAIN and CONNIE STEVENS. If I recall correctly, STEVENS played a girl who worked on a tobacco farm & McBAIN played a spoiled socialite who marries one of the KARL MALDEN character's worthless sons.

by Anonymousreply 425March 10, 2014 1:42 AM

r419, on DL it works either way.

by Anonymousreply 426March 10, 2014 1:57 AM

I fondly remember Diane McBain as madcap heiress Daphne Dutton on Surfside Six.

And Van Williams!

by Anonymousreply 427March 10, 2014 2:10 AM

Diane also played a madcap heiress in the film version of the Jean Kerr play MARY,MARY. She hated that role.

by Anonymousreply 428March 10, 2014 1:13 PM

WEHT Pamela Tiffin?

by Anonymousreply 429March 10, 2014 1:51 PM

Pamela Tiffin. Lovely, lovely....

by Anonymousreply 430March 10, 2014 4:21 PM

Hi, HPB-- At your request, nothing about the blog post that inspired most of this thread. I just read your article about Jess Walton. While I didn't know anything about her, it was interesting to see that she'd appeared on shows I sometimes watched.

I just wanted to tell you, because you are talking about completing a book (good for you, and congratulations on making it non-fiction; it's easier to get published, although still difficult) that I got a very strange sense while reading your Tina Louise article (the one in which you discuss the silly Ginger vs. Mary Ann battles). It was during the part where you were trying to demonstrate that Ginger was a team player and interesting, well-rounded character.

I don't know if I agree with you that people who prefer Ginger are more able to appreciate strong women, but you did make a good point about some of the men who liked Mary Ann doing so because of the way they thought she'd focus on them. So that was interesting. However, when you started listing the things Ginger (the character) did that showed her to be a good sport or a full participant in chores and rescue scenarios, I suddenly felt as if I was reading a persuasive essay or an academic paper. About "Gilligan's Island" characters. It was a weird feeling, frankly.

I hope if you do put together a book (and you should; this thread proves there is an audience for the topic you are so interested in, and you're an engaging writer... witness the fact that so many of us on DL read one article and went on to read more from there), you will either focus on the actresses more than the characters, or the characters only in the sense of what the actresses brought to them (as you did with Jess Walton so well).

While the Ginger vs. Mary Ann fight (and the silliness of having to pick one) is a great topic for a blog post, I don't think it's a valid book topic unless you deal with it in a much more tongue-in-cheek way. After all, the characters of the women in "Gilligan's Island" were as much the creation of the (likely male) writers as of the female actresses who portrayed them. So it's either a much broader, far-ranging topic of discussion, as in "what were female characters meant to represent" at the time (and I don't think that's your niche), or irrelevant unless Tina Louise gives you a specific interview story.

In any case, good luck with your writing. It's a huge step just to find a topic that you are passionate about *and* that isn't already covered by a zillion other books. Another hurdle is whether you can write. You've gotten over those, and if you put something together, it's likely to pique the interest of an agent and/or editor with an interest in Hollywood non-fiction.

p.s. If you can't handle people calling each other 'cunt', you should stay on this thread only, because that's exceedingly mild for this site.

by Anonymousreply 431March 10, 2014 5:03 PM

I hope r432 is intoxicated.

by Anonymousreply 432March 10, 2014 5:23 PM

R433 Bite your tongue. I would recognize R432 anywhere that's Ms Diane Baker! She's trying to invade this thread without seeming so obvious. Nice try MS Baker stop drinking before you hit DL.

by Anonymousreply 433March 10, 2014 6:51 PM

Watched NINE HOURS TO RAMA with Horst Buchost and Diane Baker. Baker only has about ten minutes or so screen time. It is as if her part was thrown in at the last minute because she was under contract at Fox. The other actress in the film had a much larger role. Baker plays an Indian prostitute.

by Anonymousreply 434March 10, 2014 11:18 PM

HPB, you're my kind of people. Come over to the DL "Mamie Gummer IS Valene Ewing" thread, I'm watching the second season of KL and could use someone to chew the general 80s prime time soap fat with.

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by Anonymousreply 435March 11, 2014 12:40 AM

It has to be said again: Would anyone say of Diane Baker: "She's my favourite actress."?

by Anonymousreply 436March 12, 2014 6:18 PM

r437 have you got a guess?

If one looks at the actresses who guest starred on the FBI TV series more than once we're not left with any heavies.

by Anonymousreply 437March 13, 2014 2:55 AM

[quote]It has to be said again: Would anyone say of Diane Baker: "She's my favourite actress."?

Speaking as a fan of Deborah Walley, I can only say that there's a lid for every pot.

by Anonymousreply 438March 13, 2014 5:20 AM

[quote]R437 It has to be said again: Would anyone say of Diane Baker: "She's my favourite actress."?

Unlikely here. Diane Baker is one of the ones that older women like my mother' age (70) like.

by Anonymousreply 439March 13, 2014 5:46 AM

I worked with Sian Barbara Allen in the 1970s and was friendly with her for a while. Barbara is her real first name, and Susan is her real middle name. Nice but rather neurotic. She was one of the last of the Universal contract players. By the time I saw her on a final season Cagney and Lacey, we'd been out of touch for ten years. Saw her in the Ralph's on Sunset in Hollywood around 1991. She was with her hubby. I knew they had a child who had some kind of disability.

Anyway, she looked at me with a "wait - did I used to know you?" look, but we weren't really within speaking distance and I didn't feel like going over and reintroducing myself.

by Anonymousreply 440March 13, 2014 6:44 AM

Ok, R439, I am also a fan of Deborah Walley and was going to post the same expression. Fuhreeeeeky!

by Anonymousreply 441March 13, 2014 6:56 AM

[quote]R441

Didn't SBA date Richard (John Boy) Thomas at one point ?

by Anonymousreply 442March 13, 2014 7:07 AM

Oh, yes, I should've known better myself. I'm a Constance Towers fan.

No, I'm certain this BI is about Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 443March 13, 2014 8:18 AM

In R309, HPB says it is not Diane Baker.

by Anonymousreply 444March 13, 2014 1:27 PM

It should be restated that one of the clues was: the mystery actress was the favorite actress of the blogger's high school history teacher.

Nina Foch is on the FBI list but her credits don't line up with the clues.

Stefanie Powers, it seems, is loved by every straight man on the planet, but again, not all clues line up.

I agree that the mystery actress is Diane Baker. The history teacher must have been straight and a bit book-wormy.

by Anonymousreply 445March 13, 2014 5:31 PM

Paula Prentiss was literally one of the last contract players

by Anonymousreply 446March 13, 2014 5:41 PM

Tall, elegant Nina Foch was also NOT a 60s starlet having been in films 20 years earlier.

by Anonymousreply 447March 13, 2014 5:50 PM

Nina Foch had a truly tragic life. Imagine being married to James Lipton.

Was at a party a few years ago and watched him hovering over the buffet table -- actually, there'd be no need to describe his behavior, if I'd only added another O to "hovering."

by Anonymousreply 448March 13, 2014 5:52 PM

R447 yes, but we've already determined she was the actress the blogger tried to defend to the mystery actress.

by Anonymousreply 449March 13, 2014 5:58 PM

Nina Foch was a friend's acting coach. The friend is gay, something she did not appreciate. She brutally went after him to butch it up (he is actually quite masculine) until he finally walked out and that was it.

Miserable woman.

by Anonymousreply 450March 13, 2014 6:02 PM

Blogger claimed mystery actress is not Diane Baker, but the denial was suspect.

by Anonymousreply 451March 13, 2014 6:04 PM

I agree R452. I think HPB was trying to keep the actress' identity from being found out. I hope he'll continue to post here. I don't think he was quite ready for the shitstorm he was opening himself up for, though. There is some major cuntage going on on these threads. Much of it far beyond mere pointless bitchery.

by Anonymousreply 452March 14, 2014 5:03 AM

Mary Lamb practices cuntagery.

by Anonymousreply 453March 14, 2014 5:17 AM

She's truly cuntageous.

by Anonymousreply 454March 14, 2014 5:38 AM

She's a Cuntologist.

by Anonymousreply 455March 14, 2014 5:57 AM

SupercuntifragilisticuntspialcuntROCIOUS.

by Anonymousreply 456March 14, 2014 6:01 AM

Cuntadoodie !

by Anonymousreply 457March 14, 2014 6:10 AM

Connie Fucking Stevens

by Anonymousreply 458March 14, 2014 12:06 PM

R459 kindly provide Miss Steven's work info matching the clues, starting with the FBI series.

by Anonymousreply 459March 14, 2014 6:02 PM

I wonder If Sherry Jackson is a lesbian as well as Ms Baker. Both of these wonderful ladies never seemed to have been married.

R459 When the fuck did Connie Stevens do a "horror film" and a recent film to boot? She was definitely cute when she was younger but she wasn't an actress. Ms Baker might have been c list ms Stevens was Z list. Though she did a good job of convincing herself that Eddie Fisher was attractive! Or was that the best job of her career?

by Anonymousreply 460March 15, 2014 2:16 AM

It doesn't matter to HillStreetDodger anymore. He ran for the hills. But there have been messages for him and I have relayed them to him through vibration and good intentions. He trusts me because I warned him.

I think y'all are crazy to be concerned with any one other than Kay Lenz, and that is only because I am younger and have actually been hard for a woman. She of course is too young to fit the profile of the actress you seek to destroy.

It is not Diane Baker. The blogger and the spirits do not lie. He made some small error in the history and credits of the actress he was referring to.

This message is 1,000 percent for you DL. HillStreetPlace is older and pedantic but not as old or cutthroat as his guessers. One reads pointless bitchery, but cannot be prepared for such a mob of poisonous vultures concerned with pointed butchery. He has been shocked back into silence.

I told him that he would be having a small winning and a large reworking of his material. He has received both my message and more importantly the "gift" that I alluded to.

The gentleman made a mistake about some of the details in his endless post about an actress that once was too cranky, busy or high minded to be interviewed by him. It was a small mistake, but it has thrown all you sniffing dogs off. He is embarrassed, to admit a small error that you have given such credence to. He is not sophisticated in the ugly snark of DL, or the nasty words of dissection that have been applied to some people that he admires, or certainly has no hate for.

HillPlace does not call women C-nts, and neither should y'all. But the actress's name in question has been named here, and it is not Diane Baker.

The spirits repeat that her name has been mentioned in this thread, but MaryHPlace saw the blood on his own wall, that came from sources that I know. He was primarily interested in feedback for his writing and now soon there will be another dead forgotten actress. She will get a paragraph in both People and EW. Consult the FBI.

Many dead and alive are not pleased, though some are flattered by your attention. Carry on. There is no stopping y'all. There are many clues here. The Blogger was not presenting a mystery, but now you have one.

The Blogger was a Jogger.

by Anonymousreply 461March 15, 2014 3:13 AM

It's still Diane Baker and she's still a cunt!No psychobabble will change that fact.Unless of curse you are Ms Baker herself......

by Anonymousreply 462March 15, 2014 3:18 AM

Its Diane Baker, thank you very much.

r462 FULL. OF. SELF.

by Anonymousreply 463March 15, 2014 3:28 AM

I think it's Dorothy Provine

by Anonymousreply 464March 15, 2014 3:30 AM

[quote] When the fuck did Connie Stevens do a "horror film" and a recent film to boot ?

TWO ON A GUILLOTINE (1965)

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by Anonymousreply 465March 15, 2014 3:35 AM

Did you check for her on the GBI list?

What foreign film did she make?

What was her debut film blockbuster?

State your case, chappie.

by Anonymousreply 466March 15, 2014 3:35 AM

[quote]I am younger and have actually been hard for a woman.

Mama doesn't count.

by Anonymousreply 467March 15, 2014 3:39 AM

All who claim to be young here are older than the Hollywood Hills.

by Anonymousreply 468March 15, 2014 4:42 AM

Two on a Guillotine is one of my favorite old bad movies! And for an extra treat, it features DL fave, Queen Cesar Romero - the one who got to lock his lips on Desi Arnaz's massive Cuban meat.

by Anonymousreply 469March 15, 2014 5:33 AM

IT IS DIANE BAKER GODAMMIT! Stop with the ridiculous guesses. Connie Stevens? Really?

by Anonymousreply 470March 15, 2014 7:39 PM

It's probably one of those Warner Brothers sluts.

by Anonymousreply 471March 15, 2014 10:33 PM

If all the clues HPB gave are true then it can't be anyone but Diane Baker - she's the only one that fits.

Did HPB retract only when it because a forgone conclusion that it was Diane Baker? So as to avoid a libel suit or for his own reputation?

by Anonymousreply 472March 16, 2014 9:37 AM

It was that cunt from MGM.

by Anonymousreply 473March 17, 2014 11:24 PM

I know it washn't Mama.

Mama was nicshe. She really washhh.

by Anonymousreply 474March 18, 2014 12:33 AM

When Diane says Warners sluts I assume she's referring to those TV actresses that appeared on those TV Westerns that all blurred into one.

by Anonymousreply 475March 18, 2014 8:18 AM

My guess would be Emily Taplin Boyd

by Anonymousreply 476March 18, 2014 10:17 AM

How could anyone find Eddie Fisher in his prime unattractive?

by Anonymousreply 477March 18, 2014 10:25 AM

I saw Sherry Jackson on an episode of Fantasy Island on Sunday night on COZI-TV (she and Jayne Meadows were competing for the love of crusty old alky Peter Lawford). Sherry was a wonderful actress.

by Anonymousreply 478March 18, 2014 6:01 PM

Sherry Jackson was a child star who became a hot mama in her adulthood. Unlike Aylssa Milano or Kimberly McCullough who were cute as kids but not gorgeous as adults Sherry became really hot. She did nudity in the film Gunn The Movie and looked really sexy there.

by Anonymousreply 479March 18, 2014 6:42 PM

ETB?

by Anonymousreply 480March 18, 2014 9:45 PM

If I recall correctly Sherry Jackson claimed that she lost her cherry to Richard Burton when she was about 18.

by Anonymousreply 481March 18, 2014 11:51 PM

Do you peasant have anything more to add?

by Anonymousreply 482March 27, 2014 5:36 PM

When you can spell "peasants" properly, Diane, we will have more to say! BTW I loved you on Rod Serling's Night Gallery.......your best role ever. I know it was a lowly TV role but that was what you were doing at the time. Oh how the mighty had fallen. Last but not least, Sherry Jackson was/is much hotter than you were/are.She looks vibrant for her age whereas you look like an old lady who hoards cats and dogs for fun because she has no friends.

by Anonymousreply 483March 31, 2014 4:07 PM

Pages back I suggested Sue Lyon. No one replied. Maybe I was wrong. Still, surprised no one would reply at all.

by Anonymousreply 484April 10, 2014 11:49 AM

Is Sherry Jackson the actress who played Danny Thomas' first daughter on Make Room for Daddy?

Who disappeared when Danny married Marjorie Lord in the second version of the show called The Danny Thomas Show and was mysteriously replaced by an actress named Penny Parker who was also quickly written out when her character married Pat Harrington, Jr.?

Or was that Sherry Lansing?

by Anonymousreply 485April 10, 2014 12:06 PM

Read this thread back to back and the information is delicious despite the original blogpost being deleted from the internet. I have no doubt that the BL alludes to Diane Baker.

She had great chemistry with Joan Crawford in her 60's movies. I don't know why but she always pinged to me.

Does anyone have any info that our dear Diane may prefer the ladies? Yes, she has a long-term companion in the form of Mr. Lerner but I have suspicions.

Please enlighten me.

by Anonymousreply 486July 31, 2014 1:15 AM

Bump for 2017.

by Anonymousreply 487March 8, 2017 10:20 PM

Why bump a thread when the link to the original article no longer works?

by Anonymousreply 488March 8, 2017 11:15 PM

Because SOMEBODY likes to bump threads and post endless ESTs and ersatz threads asking for advice about various things.

Somebody bumped a freaking 7 year old thread about Anthony Bourdain the other day by making some vague insipid comment apropos of nothing.

Who EVER could it be? Any suggestions welcome!

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by Anonymousreply 489March 9, 2017 1:42 AM

I believe it was bumped because it was discussed, linked, and referenced the thread about Robert Osborne's passing. Diane Baker's name, and this thread, came up several times.

by Anonymousreply 490March 9, 2017 1:45 AM

Diane Baker had bad BO.

by Anonymousreply 491March 9, 2017 1:54 AM

Who is that ugly whore R489?

by Anonymousreply 492March 9, 2017 2:17 AM

Ms Baker is a big old dyke. She even pinged in that Night Gallery episode called "They're Tearing Down Tim Riley's Bar." She seemed more Butch in that piece than the male lead, William Windom did.

by Anonymousreply 493March 9, 2017 1:18 PM

She's all woman.

by Anonymousreply 494March 9, 2017 1:43 PM

Could it be Madelyn Rhue?

by Anonymousreply 495June 26, 2019 3:09 PM
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