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Biracial Relationships in England?

OK, so it seems like every fictional show produced by the BBC in the past five years and exported to the U.S. has at least one biracial couple on it.

It's a bit embarrassing, but even in 2014, it is a rare thing in an American TV show or movie to see a biracial couple. So, I wanted to ask all of the Dataloungers from the U.K. is this a fairly commonplace thing in your culture? In several British shows, they will have a scene in a pub where a hetero black & white couple will kiss, and nobody bats an eye: is this actually how your culture is today? I am hoping you will say it is, as it is unfortunately not the case here in many places.

by Anonymousreply 127May 31, 2021 12:34 PM

UK has less people who will complain about irrelevant stuff like interracial couples. It is decades ahead of the US in that way.

by Anonymousreply 1February 28, 2014 9:11 PM

The main thing about that is it seems its always the guy is black and the chick is white. Why?

by Anonymousreply 2February 28, 2014 9:17 PM

It's no big deal here in London. Afro-Caribbean men partnering white women are the highest % of hetero couples in London followed by Asian (Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshis')and Eastern European - can't remember where I read it, so don't quote me...

by Anonymousreply 3February 28, 2014 9:33 PM

It's pretty accurate in the cities at least. In my extended family, it seems to be true. I think the stats are something like over 50% of black men will have a relationship with a white woman at some point.

They had a program on the black man/white woman thing during Black History week one year. The summary seemed to be: black women are more fussy, a bit feistier and are the least likely group to put up with a bad relationship. They won't stand for shit behaviour. E.g. there has often been a serious relationship and/or children with a black woman in the man's past and she dumped him.

How true that is, I don't know. It seems a bit stereotypical (black men useless/lazy, white girls easy, black women strong and capable).

by Anonymousreply 4February 28, 2014 9:57 PM

[quote]It's a bit embarrassing, but even in 2014, it is a rare thing in an American TV show or movie to see a biracial couple.

WTF are you talking about?

The following American TV shows all feature or have featured interracial couples:

Scandal

Deception

Person of Interest

Merlin

The Community

Spartacus

Happy Endings

The 4400

Mistresses

Eureka

Parenthood

Girlfriends

Mr. Sunshine

Private Practice

Lincoln Heights

by Anonymousreply 5February 28, 2014 10:03 PM

Shameless (Kevin and Veronica.)

by Anonymousreply 6February 28, 2014 10:05 PM

Are black women in the UK less likely to look down at biracial relationships and complain that their dating pool is diminished by white women? Are black women as likely to date black men in the UK as it is the other way around?

There are lots of complaints on Lipstick Alley in the football (soccer) forums about the tendency for black players to marry white women. The black women on LA claim that it's a sign of black self-hatred to date and marry women whom the players perceive as being higher status. These are commenters from the UK and continental Europe.

by Anonymousreply 7February 28, 2014 10:07 PM

Even Downton Abbey!

by Anonymousreply 8February 28, 2014 10:07 PM

It was a big deal on Downton Abbey!

by Anonymousreply 9February 28, 2014 10:08 PM

Pretty much how it is and nobody bats an eyelid. More common in cities and larger towns but it happens everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 10February 28, 2014 10:08 PM

R7 Footballers tend to marry the latest wannabe regardless of the colour of skin, they're a shallow bunch.

by Anonymousreply 11February 28, 2014 10:11 PM

[quote]they will have a scene in a pub where a hetero black & white couple will kiss, and nobody bats an eye: is this actually how your culture is today

WTF?! I am honestly curious about what world you live in OP that this seems so crazy to you?

Are you some old queen living in Mississippi?

There is not a single decent city in America where this would be an issue either.

And plenty of American entertainment shows interracial couples. Hell even Denzel Washington who used to refuse to have a white female love interest realized it didn't matter anymore and had one in "Flight".

by Anonymousreply 12February 28, 2014 10:12 PM

The new show The Flash will also have an interracial couple: Barry Allen will be played by a white actor, and his love interest Iris West will be played by a black actress.

by Anonymousreply 13February 28, 2014 10:14 PM

Diversity won't be achieved until I see a gay half Brazilian/korean partnered with a transgendered wasp whose secretly half black but passing for white. Then there will be justice on American tv.

by Anonymousreply 14February 28, 2014 10:15 PM

There are plenty of hairdresser, barmaid, "VIP hostess" nobodies who marry footballers. Nonetheless, it's a huge complaint on LA. Are there no black flavor of the moment women?

by Anonymousreply 15February 28, 2014 10:17 PM

Even GIRLS had an interracial romance when Hannah was dating the black guy.

by Anonymousreply 16February 28, 2014 10:17 PM

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by Anonymousreply 17February 28, 2014 10:25 PM

Fairly regular in the UK in my experience. Most people I know wouldn't give it much of a consideration. The only prejudiced comment I've heard about it was from a Muslim Egyptian colleague who told me that he thought non black women who partner with black men are sluts and not far from bestiality. When I came out he stopped talking to me, and in retrospect I'm glad he did.

by Anonymousreply 18February 28, 2014 10:29 PM

In England (which is much more diverse than Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland) its about 85% white 15% non-white. The biggest minority group is South Asian (Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi) not black however.

by Anonymousreply 19February 28, 2014 10:34 PM

Another thing that really bothers me! When will we finally see a US president of color?

by Anonymousreply 20February 28, 2014 10:35 PM

R17 You're looking at about 3-4% black.

by Anonymousreply 21February 28, 2014 10:36 PM

Not rare at all on American TV.

The Good Wife Michael J. Fox General Hospital (x4 past year) Scandal

That's four off the top of my head.

by Anonymousreply 22February 28, 2014 10:38 PM

I think the demographics are about 3% black, another 2-3% black/mixed. But as was said, the UK's about 85% white so the various Asian demographics are larger. That said, in places like London and other big cities, the percentages are significantly higher.

by Anonymousreply 23March 1, 2014 12:34 AM

It's way more common in the UK than the US. Even in 2014 in US, it can be met with some disdain, unfortunately. Not in the UK. People in UK are more chill about most things than US.

by Anonymousreply 24March 1, 2014 12:57 AM

"It's way more common in the UK than the US. Even in 2014 in US, it can be met with some disdain, unfortunately. Not in the UK. People in UK are more chill about most things than US."

Given that it's been well demonstrated upthread that many, many, many US TV shows currently depict interracial couples, I think it's clearly not much of a problem in the US anymore for the large part.

by Anonymousreply 25March 1, 2014 1:00 AM

In the UK the issue is more over class than race.

by Anonymousreply 26March 1, 2014 1:00 AM

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by Anonymousreply 27March 1, 2014 1:09 AM

London gives a false impression of the demographics of the country as a whole. There are a lot of places where it feels much higher - and far more where it feels much lower.

by Anonymousreply 28March 1, 2014 1:45 AM

My Aunt lives in a small town outside of Atlanta where there are so many biracial relationships. It's usually the people aged 20 to 40. You can go into a Wal-Mart or any type of store really and see at least one older white lady pushing a cart with her biracial grandchildren in it. The town used to be mostly white until the last 15 yrs. Now it's 55% black.

by Anonymousreply 29March 1, 2014 1:52 AM

[quote]There are lots of complaints on Lipstick Alley in the football (soccer) forums about the tendency for black players to marry white women. The black women on LA claim that it's a sign of black self-hatred to date and marry women whom the players perceive as being higher status. These are commenters from the UK and continental Europe.

This is true. Without fail, virtually EVERY single black British footballer (past or present) is partnered with a white (usually blonde) woman. Think of any famous black british premiership player (Theo Wolcott, Rio Ferdinand, Stan Collymore, Paul Ince, John Barnes ...) all of them. The black brit women on Lipstick Alley feel (I'd say somewhat justifiably) embittered by this, because of the perceived rejection but also because mixed race offspring usually become fully white by the third generation. They claim self-loathing as the main driver. And this is reflected in the general black british population with the notable exception of Africans.

The English Premier League, being one of the most popular in the world, attracts a large number of foreign players, including black Africans who almost always partner with black women. All the top African stars (major or minor) who've played in the EPL: Didier Drogba, Samuel Eto'o, The Toure brothers Yaya and Kolo, Salomon Kalou, John Obi Mikel, Fabrice Muamba ... all have black wives or girlfriends. In fact, in the UK, whenever I see a black man with a black woman, I assume they're first or second generation African, and I'm usually right. And the African men don't just limit themselves to women from their countries, but go for all black women from the UK and the Caribbean. Fabrice Muamba's wife is Jamaican-British. Patrick Viera (Senegalese-born former French star) is married to a Trinidadian woman. There would be very few black children being born if it wasn't for African men, who don't seem to have an issue with self-loathing.

by Anonymousreply 30March 1, 2014 2:31 AM

Interracial relationships in the UK are very high. That said I do think the UK TV exaggerates it so much so that it gives the impression that there are no black male-black female couples..

Similar to US TV, UK TV tries to avoid hiring black women, so they just pair black men with biracial women or white women.

by Anonymousreply 31March 1, 2014 2:38 AM

Census figures: [quote]The black population formed around 3.3% of the UK's population in 2011. It has increased from 1.1 million in 2001 to over 1.8 million in 2011.

Ths is miniscule especially compared against the black presence in media and sports. South Asians are the main minority in the UK. About African males being the only demographic interested in black women, I think it's partly because they weren't subjected to brainwashing. Culturally, they're attracted to features such as an ample derriere.

by Anonymousreply 32March 1, 2014 2:46 AM

Old people with their racial preoccupations

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by Anonymousreply 33March 1, 2014 2:55 AM

R31, I think you're on to something.

I also think that biracial couples are broadly seen on British TV because program makers want to give the false impression that the UK is 100% tolerant of its "vibrant, multi-cultural" society when in fact there are many bigots throughout the land.

Parliament is still a bastion of old white men, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 34March 1, 2014 3:27 AM

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by Anonymousreply 35March 1, 2014 3:53 AM

r34 I think that is partly true. I also think the producers think that a black couple will alienate white audiences, so inserting a white partner will make it more relatable .

I do truly think it is done just to avoid hiring black women, since there is an unwritten rule that dark skinned women are not allowed on TV (at least not as love interest).

by Anonymousreply 36March 1, 2014 4:01 AM

And people wonder why black women feel hard-done by.

by Anonymousreply 37March 1, 2014 4:40 AM

Does the OP even realise that England and the UK/ Britain are not the same thing?!

It's quite clear when visiting the US that the racial issue is a much bigger deal.

I would say that the races are more integrated in England so the inter racial relationships are seen as normal.

by Anonymousreply 38March 1, 2014 5:05 AM

It may be normal to you r38, but not the many discontented black british women posting on various black sites.

by Anonymousreply 39March 1, 2014 5:18 AM

The races do seem mor integrated in England than the us. Why is that. Doesn't the US hav a much higher black population?

by Anonymousreply 40March 1, 2014 6:10 AM

Scary that so many are as uninformed as R40. And he seems completely helpless and entitled.

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by Anonymousreply 41March 1, 2014 6:20 AM

I live in a small regional city in the UK. It is not something we usually think about, but I did notice last summer when I was in the only non-mixed partnership in a cafe. What struck me was the wide range of mixes, not just black and white. It was lovely.

by Anonymousreply 42March 1, 2014 6:21 AM

I'm 30 and nobody batted an eyelid with various biracial couples at my school.

by Anonymousreply 43March 1, 2014 6:38 AM

Did I open a DL site in some alt-universe?

Where is this "here" that the OP speaks of? Interracial relationships in the US are no more of a big deal than they are in the U.K.

And for those of you in the U.K. who claim that race is not a big issue... WTF? One can hardly go a day in the UK without hearing a white-Brit bitching about the Asians, Easter Europeans, Africans, Caribbean Islanders. The British are no less racist than Americans.

by Anonymousreply 44March 1, 2014 6:39 AM

Do straight white men date Asian women in the UK at the same rates they seem to in the US? (At least in California - where white guys seem to always end up with an Asian chick).

by Anonymousreply 45March 1, 2014 7:03 AM

r45 In the UK most Asians are south Asian(indian, pakistani, bangledesh). And south Asian women mostly don't date out.

by Anonymousreply 46March 1, 2014 7:12 AM

R45 - define 'Asian'. It doesn't mean the same thing in the UK as is seems to in the US.

by Anonymousreply 47March 1, 2014 7:15 AM

r40 The UK has a different racial history than the US. I also think it is fair to say the UK is less racist if we use metrics such as hate crimes, residential segregation, and such.

Also I do think the high rates of interracial marriage is not necessarily a sign of progress if it is based on people simply fetishizing being with a white partner.

by Anonymousreply 48March 1, 2014 7:15 AM

In the US, interracial relationships are MUCH more common than what is shown on tv and in film. Minorities and interracial relationships are underrepresented in hollyweird. If anything, more and more people are having interracial relationships in real life.

In the 80s and 90s, tv and film started becoming much more diverse. In the 2000s we saw this annoying shift geared towards white teeny boppers and white women 30s-50s.

by Anonymousreply 49March 1, 2014 8:21 AM

I was driving in Belfast yesterday which is possibly one of the least ethnically diverse cities in the UK and sitting at the traffic lights three couples crossed the road. I noticed I suppose because they stood out. The first couple were both hugely obese and made up of a black man and a white woman, the second was an extremely hot Asian man and a very blonde white woman and finally, just because I was noticing, the third couple were a very bland average white male and female. But who knows one of them may have been Eastern European. Quite nice to see in Belfast.

by Anonymousreply 50March 1, 2014 9:19 AM

R50 here. Just to clarify, by Asian I mean someone from the Indian sub-continent and not South East Asia.

by Anonymousreply 51March 1, 2014 9:22 AM

There must be a lot of biracial relationships because there are a ton of really hot biracial English dudes: David Haye, Louis Smith, Ashley McKenzie, David McIntosh, Marlon McKenzie, etc.

by Anonymousreply 52March 1, 2014 9:37 AM

I'm a white female, mid-40s, who lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, and biracial relationships are pretty common and unremarked upon here. My best friend is of Chinese descent and most of her boyfriends have been white or Amerasian; she sometimes dates Chinese guys, but most of them are first generation American, and her family has been here since the Gold Rush days. She finds she's too Americanized for most of them, and they are too conservative and old world for her. Her sister has never dated anyone except white men and is married to a Frenchman she met while working in South America. They now live here and have a son. Their parents used to have a difficult time with the interracial dating when the women were younger, but they moved on and no longer have an issue with it-and they really, really love their son-in-law.

White Male/Asian female is probably the most common coupling, but you see any and all varieties, even those considered "rare." My niece's best friend is a biracial girl with a black mother and white father. My dentist, who is of Chinese descent, has a white, blonde second wife. My friend's buddy is of Thai descent and he ONLY dates white women. It's true, though, that Middle-Easterners and South Asians generally don't date/marry outside their group, which I'd put more on religious/cultural considerations than racism. Give it a couple of generations, and they will probably be doing the same thing.

Interestingly enough, my first cousin is from Virginia, lives in Gulfport, and his wife is black. They don't really encounter any problems even living there. He's liberal, but his father, mother, and brother are teabagger type conservatives, and they don't have any problem with it. The real tension comes from the varying politics of the group, and the fact that the father is an alcoholic.

by Anonymousreply 53March 1, 2014 10:31 AM

R30, Ashley Young's on-and-off girlfriend is white too, as was Liam Ridgwell's fiancée -- who, it was rumored, was having an affair with Young, causing both couples' planned weddings to be canceled.

by Anonymousreply 54March 1, 2014 11:31 AM

Wouldn't what seems to be considered South Asians in this thread (Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi) be more... West Asian?

East Asian - Chinese, Japanese, Korean South Asian - Thiland, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, the Philippines, etc.

by Anonymousreply 55March 1, 2014 12:11 PM

Haha r54. I know Young has at least two kids and they're mixed.

[quote]Also I do think the high rates of interracial marriage is not necessarily a sign of progress if it is based on people simply fetishizing being with a white partner.

Black brits tend to have a deep desire to assimilate into the mainstream subsequently many aspire to be partnered with white people for them to feel they've made it and truly accepted. British people sound the same if they're from the same class, area or school. American blacks formed a distinct culture with it's own speech patterns and music (gospel,jazz, blues, soul, r&b, hip-hop). You may have some black british singers attempting these genres, but it's sort of contrived and not something that comes naturally.

I think that's why America, for all it's faults, is so much more diverse and culturally richer. People celebrate blackness in a way the British and other Europeans can't and don't. It's partly why I don't think a Barack Obama can happen in the UK or France despite their sizeable black populations.

by Anonymousreply 56March 1, 2014 3:54 PM

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by Anonymousreply 57March 1, 2014 6:42 PM

You may as well just term black Brits as 'coconuts' with that there post of generalizations, R56.

by Anonymousreply 58March 1, 2014 10:49 PM

British women have fetishized black men since the early part of the last century. Perhaps it's because they're often surrounded by pasty faced men. It's no coincidence that a Brit (Susan George) was cast in Mandingo as a plantation owner's wife lusting over a slave. I doubt they could find an American willing to play it.

by Anonymousreply 59March 2, 2014 3:27 PM

I live in SF and it's not unusual to see Asian women with white men. However, I rarely see the opposite and am always surprised when I do. Given the large Asian population in SF, it seems like it would be much more common to see white women with Asian men.

by Anonymousreply 60March 2, 2014 3:44 PM

My white friend's husband is first generation Korean American. He has 3 sisters and they're all married to white men. They're from a very wealthy, prominent family and my friend's MIL looked down on her because she was a nurse, not a "professional." So my friend got a PhD in nursing and told her MIL to stuff it. Then she stopped working and became a fulltime doctor's wife. Her Asian-looking kids all date whites.

by Anonymousreply 61March 2, 2014 3:45 PM

R29- I stayed in Atlanta last fall (and will be going back in 2 weeks), and was surprised by how common bi-racial couples are (and this is coming from a Los Angelite). The black people (at least around the mid-town area) are friggin' gorgeous- the most beautiful luminous skin on both men and women.

My 2 cents- I'm Asian female, have had only 1 Asian guy interested in me back in high school in Chicago. Only black and white guys interested in me in the Bay Area and Los Angeles. But then I'm tallish (5'8') and kind of muscular.

by Anonymousreply 62March 2, 2014 3:57 PM

I have a friend who's half black and half Jewish. Her parents got married in the 1950s and her white Jewish mother was disowned by the family. It was unheard of back then. Jewish women in NY were supposed to marry Jewish men who became doctors, bankers, lawyers, accountants. Instead, she married a black janitor.

My friend married an Irish-German-American and her kids look Italian. One of the sons makes a big deal out of claiming he's Jewish, though he never attends synagogue (his mother never did either). They live in Atlanta, where biracial kids aren't a small minority, so he claims Jewishness to be more of a standout minority.

The kids do, however, check off "African-American" on forms. They both got into very prestigious, mostly white public schools when they lived up north. Their mother made sure to go with them on interviews, not their white father. The schools were delighted to be able to show they were integrated with "African American" males.

I don't blame them. I'd play the same game if I could.

by Anonymousreply 63March 2, 2014 4:35 PM

Another retired black British footballer, Sol Campbell, who was only ever known to date white women including Martina Hingis (on top of having to stave off gay rumours despite his distinct unhandsomeness) now pulls out the race card and blames racism for him never achieving the England captaincy.

Britain still has issues with race despite the utopia they try to claim. The black community there reaction of the black community there is a desperation to assimilate hence the high number of them marrying white.

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by Anonymousreply 64March 3, 2014 12:30 AM

What about Brixton?

by Anonymousreply 65March 3, 2014 12:37 AM

What about Birmingham 2005?

by Anonymousreply 66March 3, 2014 12:43 AM

What about Hackney, Chingford, Walthamstow, Peckham, Enfield, Battersea, Croydon, Ealing, Barking, Woolwich, Lewisham and East Ham?

by Anonymousreply 67March 3, 2014 12:48 AM

[quote]and this is coming from a Los Angelite

Isn't it "Angelino?"

by Anonymousreply 68March 3, 2014 12:49 AM

I'm in the US, and an Asian femals. I've only dated white guys.

It's partly because I'm adopted, by a white family, and that's what I've grown-up around. When I am with people who are Asian and raised by a traditionally Asian family, I feel very out of place.

by Anonymousreply 69March 3, 2014 12:49 AM

How come Britain has more race riots than the US? There haven't been race riots in the US in 40 years.

by Anonymousreply 70March 3, 2014 12:50 AM

When was the last race riot?

by Anonymousreply 71March 3, 2014 12:52 AM

When I moved from the UK to the US one of the things that most shocked me was the amount of racial segregation, and really overt racism. Not that the UK is perfect but I'd never seen or heard such very overt racism.

Incidentally to get back to the issue of TV, when Doctor Who had the black characters end up married after both had serious relationships with white characters, there were loads of comments online accusing them of being racist for shoving the black characters together.

by Anonymousreply 72March 3, 2014 1:03 AM

[quote] When was the last race riot?

In Britain? 2011.

by Anonymousreply 73March 3, 2014 3:13 AM

Worked for an obese British black man in television -- on a visit from the BBC to the US to show he could "make it" in American commercial TV, although he did not do very well.

Talked all the time about diversity but never hired any black people. Married white women twice. Crapped on America all the time, but wanted to make it big here. Seemed very conflicted, to put it mildly.

by Anonymousreply 74March 3, 2014 5:49 AM

R73 if it's the riots from London wasn't that started because the police shot a bloke that they said was armed contrary to what other people thought?

by Anonymousreply 75March 3, 2014 6:11 PM

You're right R75 it wasn't race riots it was anti-government riots. The guy who was shot had a history of drug dealing, violence, gang membership etc., and was carrying a gun and the police stopped the cab he was in to arrest him. He was shot while in a stand off with police. The controversy was because in the seconds immediately prior to being shot he threw his gun away. His scumbag family claimed he was an innocent victim of a police state, like he was a choirboy on his way to church or something instead of an armed & violent thug. Their claims of police persecution of this poor innocent kicked off localised unrest which ended up morphing with generalised anti-government feeling.

There are bigots and racists everywhere, no country is free of them, but the UK just isn't as color conscious as the US. It's not perfect but the UK just doesn't have the same history with race as the US and Americans can't seem to understand that the rest of the world doesn't share their history. I know I didn't realise how different it was until I left to work in Europe.

One way of looking at it is there are no black people in UK who's ancestors were brought there as slaves. It was never legal to own a slave in Britain. In fact there was a black mayor of a town in England somewhere (I forget where) back in the early 1800s.

by Anonymousreply 76March 3, 2014 7:11 PM

Michelle Gayle (former British pop star/soap actress) was married to a black footballer and she's also black. Is she really a rarity?

by Anonymousreply 77March 3, 2014 7:18 PM

R72. Steve McQueen?

by Anonymousreply 78March 3, 2014 9:00 PM

Incidentally, both black British men at the Oscars tonight, Steve McQueen and Chiwetel Ejiofor, are partnered with white women. At what point does it start feeling strange championing black pride when neither would caught dead near a black woman?

by Anonymousreply 79March 3, 2014 9:05 PM

[quote] Steve McQueen and Chiwetel Ejiofor, are partnered with white women.

[quote] neither would caught dead near a black woman?

Being with a white woman means they would never date a black woman?

Before marring her husband, who's black, Kerry Washington had been engaged to a white guy.... Does that blow your mind? Does it not compute?

by Anonymousreply 80March 3, 2014 9:09 PM

To those who say Asians are the model minority in America and other races should aspire to be like them, how would you compare their contribution to American culture compared to blacks and hispanics? How far are we from the first Asian American Oscar winner or President? Will an Asian genre of music become as mainstream as Soul or even Salsa? I think blacks in England are similar to Asian Americans in that assimilation into the white majority is their goal.

BTW, if all the black men in the UK are marrying white women, who are black women marrying?

by Anonymousreply 81March 3, 2014 9:19 PM

It happens a lot. I see black men bitching about inequality and insisting on black pride, but dating white women. If I were a black women it would piss me off.

by Anonymousreply 82March 3, 2014 9:24 PM

That's the problem, R81. There aren't many men for black women to date and many end up single.

by Anonymousreply 83March 3, 2014 9:24 PM

"Black Pride" does not mean separatist.

by Anonymousreply 84March 3, 2014 9:26 PM

[quote]Michelle Gayle (former British pop star/soap actress) was married to a black footballer and she's also black. Is she really a rarity?

Very rare.

by Anonymousreply 85March 4, 2014 3:54 AM

You can get into the sterotypes of blacks and Hispanics in America, but I'm not going to. What I will say is that the thing is, at least in my experience, many Asian-Americans keep to themselves. They come here, create a life, are glad that you - as a white, black, Hispanic - enjoy what they create, and go on with their day.

from R81 "How far are we from the first Asian American Oscar winner or President?" That will probably never happen, and I say this as an Asian.

by Anonymousreply 86March 4, 2014 10:15 AM

Correction, Ang Lee is Asian.

by Anonymousreply 87March 4, 2014 10:26 AM

Why would white people want to "MARRY DOWN" by marrying people of non-European descent(coloured people)???

All these white guys marrying Asian women. Have they any pride for being part of the most beautiful and glamorous race in the world? Their offspring would be second class, inferior looking ones.

by Anonymousreply 88March 4, 2014 11:03 AM

I lived in the UK for a few years and its very open in some places, more so in London. But I am biracial with 5 different races, and I meet a lot of bigots in the UK too. I'm from the US and from California and have never faced anything like that before, even in the South in the US. You can't judge the US by what you see on TV or the one or two idiots that live here. We are a land of immigrants. We voted Obama as our president, a biracial president...we are very open to new races and cultures. More so than most of Europe, I had a lot of trouble when I lived there. I'm not sure why but a lot of people just couldn't get past me being multi cultured. More so when they found out I had Mexican and Filipino in me, there is a lot of prejudice against filipino women, due to the mail order brides over there. I was called a whore on several accounts for no reason cause of the blood I carry. In the US Filipinos and Mexicans are way more respected. Most people were polite but couldn't get past my skin color or what I looked liked and stereotyped me all the time. So don't let countries fool you, there will always be haters if you are biracial or in a mixed race relationship. I traveled all around the world for my job. The UK and Europe in general is more tolerant than most other countries, I just learned its hard to be mixed no matter where you go. I get stuff said to me where ever I go. People will be jerks no matter what country you are in. Being in a biracial relationship or having mixed children is always hard. I saw my mom and dad go through it, and they made it wonderfully. Just remember that there will be people out there against you, but there are many who will be supporting you too.

by Anonymousreply 89March 4, 2014 11:48 AM

Americans celebrate their blackness, latiness, Asianess and even whiteness (cloaked as Irish, Italian, Slavic, Bavarian pride) but the British in a way the British don't trying to distance themselves from anything that makes them an other. Those of other races that make it are encouraged to become and behave somewhat like honorary whites.

by Anonymousreply 90March 4, 2014 1:38 PM

Is R88 being ironic or just a member of the KKK?

by Anonymousreply 91March 4, 2014 4:20 PM

r81 Black women in the UK also marry outside of their race(mostly white men). This idea that black women are not getting laid or marrying is bizarre and sort of racist. I also think many people get off this stereotype that all black women are bitter and are jealous of white women. Some do, but not all or even most.

by Anonymousreply 92March 4, 2014 9:08 PM

R86, R87, James Wong Howe won an Oscar in 1955 and another in 1963. No Asian-Americans have won the acting awards, but Haing S Ngor and Miyoshi Umeki were Asian winners.

by Anonymousreply 93March 4, 2014 9:44 PM

Why do so many white British men love biracial (half black/half white) women?

by Anonymousreply 94March 4, 2014 10:00 PM

Well, pallor is kind of out with lots of Brits. Orange is practically a skin color there.

by Anonymousreply 95March 4, 2014 10:03 PM

[quote]Why do so many white British men love biracial (half black/half white) women?

Many? Most white British men marry white women. More than half of black British men marry white women. I'd search for the link but I'm at work.

by Anonymousreply 96March 5, 2014 8:21 PM

Studies show over 56% of UK Afro-Caribbean men are in interracial marriages. This compared with 28% of black Caribbean women.

This is in contrast to people from Pakistani backgrounds, where 8 per cent of men and 6 per cent of women are in mixed relationships.

The report states: 'Those who define themselves as singularly Caribbean are likely to decline over time, as increasingly complex heritages emerge among those with some element of Caribbean descent.'

Meanwhile, in 2007, 4.6% of all married Blacks in the United States were wed to a White partner, and 0.4% of all Whites were married to a Black partner.

by Anonymousreply 97March 7, 2014 2:36 PM

[all posts by tedious, racist idiot removed.]

by Anonymousreply 98August 14, 2014 2:05 AM

"It's pretty accurate in the cities at least. In my extended family, it seems to be true. I think the stats are something like over 50% of black men will have a relationship with a white woman at some point."

That sound right---almost too low. You have to figure that a hefty percentage of those women are dating black guy after black guy...

by Anonymousreply 99August 14, 2014 2:09 AM

yes more interracial marriages in Canada too and no one cares. Don't know how you americans are all hung up on race.

by Anonymousreply 100August 14, 2014 2:52 AM

It really isn't that common; there are not many black people.

by Anonymousreply 101August 14, 2014 3:18 AM

This is just political correctness. You are likely to see the greatest number of interracial couples in America than anywhere else. Many European countries are homogeneous, despite recent immigration. Most of the minority population in England is Indian or Pakistani. Both groups rarely marry outside of their culture or religion. The Muslims do not intermarry; some Indians do, but not many.

by Anonymousreply 102August 14, 2014 3:46 AM

Statistically if only 4% of the pop is black then in a society that is not racially preferential only 1 out of 25 couples would have both partners being black. Im Australian and travel often and I have often remarked on the way that people in the US seemed to be far more racially preferential compared to all the other english speaking mostly white countries. Especially in the contiguous states. It isnt a coincidence that the first non-white american president was biracial and from Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 103August 14, 2014 8:07 AM

Some interesting facts in this article

Apparently around 10% of relationships in the UK are mixed race. People from an African background are five and a half times as likely to be in a mixed relationship as white people, while those of Indian ancestry are three times as likely.

Also, almost 50% of all mixed race Britons are under 16.

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by Anonymousreply 104August 14, 2014 8:14 AM

In US- 10% hetero.married 18% hetero unmarried 35% gay

2010 Census

by Anonymousreply 105August 14, 2014 11:37 AM

My take: US commercials feature bi-racial couples. The advertising industry is most terrified of negative public perception, if they're representing bi-racial couples, it's an indication to me that the public is largely accepting.

by Anonymousreply 106August 14, 2014 11:50 AM

R1 You say as you're slowly taken over by Islam. HAHAHA.

by Anonymousreply 107August 14, 2014 12:59 PM

Yet, r103, the US is the only western country to have elected a black man to it's highest office; have had two consecutive black secretaries of states, have a black woman as the most powerful person in television and, possibly, all media ... I could go on.

In places like the UK and France, sports and entertainment are the only chance for black people to make it. And don't get me started on Australia with it's treatment of it's own racial minorities: overt, often violent, discrimination against Asians and extreme marginalisation of Aborigines.

by Anonymousreply 108August 17, 2014 5:35 AM

[quote]Meanwhile, in 2007, 4.6% of all married Blacks in the United States were wed to a White partner, and 0.4% of all Whites were married to a Black partner.

Miniscule. In the US seems like the overwhelming majority of black and white people marry within their race and it isn't changing any time soon. Britain is another case, though. I think the black population will shrink even further because, as mentioned upthread, offspring become white by the third generation.

by Anonymousreply 109August 17, 2014 4:01 PM

Sleepy Hollow

by Anonymousreply 110August 17, 2014 4:08 PM

What R80 said.

by Anonymousreply 111August 17, 2014 4:08 PM

[quote]In the US, a black woman with a white man is a very rare thing. The only white women with black men I have ever seen are the fat white trash girls, just the lowest rung of the social ladder. I have never seen a middle-class/upper class/professional woman with a black boyfriend/spouse

I was watching Flipping Houses and saw a professional black woman/white man couple. He was a high school coach and she was on the Olympic soccer team at one point. Actually, I've seen several HH shows on HGTV with interracial couple.

by Anonymousreply 112August 17, 2014 4:29 PM

Meanwhile White Britons are bailing out of the outer boroughs of London and other cities like Birmingham and Leicester by the thousands because they are now "too ethnic".

by Anonymousreply 113August 17, 2014 4:32 PM

The quoted poster at R112 need to move out of Bumfucke.

by Anonymousreply 114August 17, 2014 4:33 PM

[quote]Meanwhile White Britons are bailing out of the outer boroughs of London and other cities like Birmingham and Leicester by the thousands because they are now "too ethnic".

Where are they moving to then?

by Anonymousreply 115August 17, 2014 4:40 PM

R115, the surrounding counties where almost everyone is white, into towns with rail access back into the city.

For example, East Londoners move to Essex, South Londoners move to Surrey or Kent. If you're leaving Birmingham you'll probably go out to places like Bromsgrove or Cannock.

by Anonymousreply 116August 17, 2014 4:59 PM

R116 It's probably cheaper too.

by Anonymousreply 117August 17, 2014 5:02 PM

Thread should've ended at r4.

by Anonymousreply 118August 23, 2014 5:08 AM

I've just finished watching a marathon of a British dating show called 'First Dates' and the black man white woman thing was here too. Some of the women were very clear about their preference for black men ("I won't me own chocolate prince"). Very few, if any, of the black men went home alone.

I'll say this, for 3%-4% of the population, black brits are very visible in the media. Explain why people think their population is much higher. This while there are virtually zero Asians in British top flight football.

by Anonymousreply 119August 23, 2014 5:47 AM

It's the same with White men dating Asian women in America.

by Anonymousreply 120August 23, 2014 5:54 AM

Interracial relations. Biracial people.

by Anonymousreply 121August 23, 2014 5:58 AM

Dark-skinned black men and blonde women will always be attracted to each other and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. It's nature.

by Anonymousreply 122August 24, 2014 11:14 PM

Wrong, r122.

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by Anonymousreply 123October 1, 2014 11:10 AM

Because Britain is an immoral country which likes sex too much. Interracial relationships are all about sex.Whilst America is more religious and Christian, so therefore have more morals.

by Anonymousreply 124March 23, 2015 2:44 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 125May 31, 2021 11:58 AM

British gals love the BBC

by Anonymousreply 126May 31, 2021 12:08 PM

Black on white — outta sight!

by Anonymousreply 127May 31, 2021 12:34 PM
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