Marlon Brando

It's very clear he had sex with men, and he seems to have had a longtime affair with Wally "Mr. Peepers" Cox (of all people), whom he said was the most person in his life. But he also clearly had major relationships with women too.

I think he was omnisexual, like most highly ambitious, handsome actors are.

Brando's lifelong fascination with (Wally) Cox.

Does "omni" include children and animals?

I think "omni" means he fucked a bus.

A tender photo with Marlon Brando and Tennessee Williams

Marlon at home, 1953

Laurence Olivier always raised my Gaydar. *LOL*

Was watching film "the Sleuth" on television and thought to myself Larry Olivier cannot be totally straight. Got the same feeling from his performance as Lord Marchmain in Brideshead Revisted.

Yes, i believe too, that Sir Laurence Olivier was bi. I bet he was attracted to Brando in the early fifties...But again, who wasn't back then?

Olivier was a friend of Robert Wagner... Enough said. He also directed Wagner and Natalie Wood in 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof' in 1976.

He could have chosen a more skillful actor for that particular movie, but instead he chose RJ. Well...ok.

Great photo R8.

He was one sexy man in his early years.

Then he turned into a walking carbohydrate.

Brando was bisexual with a preference for men. He fucked women but he fell in love with men. Wally Cox was the great love of his life and he said he said that if he could have he would have married Wally. Brando kept Wally's ashes when after he died. When Brando died his ashes where mixed with Wally's and then they were disposed of in nature somewhere according to Bando's wishes. However, we are still supposed to believe they were just friends.

I read one unauthorized biography that included a couple of really good juicy homosexual experiences. Brando allegedly got caught at some military school sucking the cocks of a line of guys. Brando allegedly snuck out one night with a friend and took him to the house of a queer. Brando slid in the window and they fucked and then he came back out and they left. The friend pretended that he didn't know what happened but he later found it odd that the entire evening was just a ruse for Brando to be able to fuck a guy.

I honestly don't know what Brando saw in Wally. The only thing I can think of was maybe Wally, who was flat out gay and not bisexual like Brando, was Brando's first, the person he lost his virginity to, in addition to being friends since 4th grade. I'm also pretty sure that Wally allowed Brando to go out and fuck whoever he wanted, female or male, which is probably why Brando loved him so.

"Wally and Marlon" would make for a great screwball, Beat generation biopic. In that period NYC, a great era. As long as James Franco had nothing to do with it.

But all that switch hitting would make middle America's heads explode

Yes, exactly Op.

If Wally wasn't the most man handsome there is a very warm cute way about him so I can imagine somebody even hot like Brando falling for him.

Now Olivier having an affair with Danny Kaye is unfathomable to me. Especially being that Kaye was supposed to have been an egotistical creep. M Kahn refused to ever even speak about him.

'handsome man'

I know what Marlon saw in me... when it was in him.

It's also interesting the fact that Marlon was even more possessive over Wally, when Wally died. Creepy, but true.

Brando fucked a MTF transwoman show'girl' in Havana in the 1950's.

Sources and links, please.

It is said that his friendship to Christian Marquand was more than friendship and they made a lot of trips together.

i'll post you the video of them going at it, if you provide your address,R21?

Or google for the Vanity Fair story on pre-Revolution Havana nightlife, where I read it.

This is one of the best Marlon Brando biographies and it also describes how the death of Wally Cox affected him greatly.

So why did the press not make much of his bisexuality? IIRC he was open about that way back, 35+ years ago.

Wally Cox wasn't openly gay or bisexual. He was a married man till he died.

And it isn't just Wally Cox's ashes that were mixed with Brando's but also that of another friend Sam Gilman's

In one of David Niven's auto biographies he talks about visiting Olivier at his house and finding him making out in the pool with Brando.

I understand that Niven was an excellent raconteur and embellished and made things up but why would he make up something like that?

I WAS a contender.

Brando, Clift and Dean all ...? I can't wrap my mind around it.

He had a thing for The Indian.

He gave the definitive answer but no one could understand his mumbling.

Marlon had stated that most of his family had a history with drinking, but that he was never an alcoholic. Personally, i don't believe that Brando wasn't drinking much. I think that he was both drinking and eating a lot. All these weight was a result of both food and booze.

He used to be the most handsome man, though. He just couldn't control his body.

How did people then keep their lives so private? Obviously they had people working in their houses. Didn't any of the maids or butlers ever tell what they saw?

If we believe Niven and Olivier and Brando were making out, wouldn't the person who answered the door know that it was going on as well? Why did they keep their mouth shut?

R33, maybe all these rumors are coming from them, after all. Maybe they got paid to shut up, but they they shared their secrets with some others and then...you know how it goes.

R27, David Niven's supposed anecdote about walking in on Olivier and Brando did not come from Niven's autobiography. It came from BRANDO UNZIPPED by fanfiction writer Darwin Porter, and has been reprinted and reposted so many times that people assume that it came from Niven himself. The Brando quote about Paul Newman's bisexuality is another Darwin Porter invention.

I do not claim that Brando wasn't at least bisexual, but many of the source material alleging his gay affairs are suspect.

[quote] How did people then keep their lives so private?

The studio publicity machines. They had ins with all of the tabloids, the police departments and the district attorneys. If anyone tried to out them, they were either destroyed or another sacrificial lamb was offered up in their place.

r22

Marquand was Brando's lover. He even named his first born son after him.

Some records of Brando's Homosexual liaisons that I could find on the internet.

1) This article bout Brando's son Christian talks about Brando's Indian wife Anna providing a photographical evidence of Brando and Christian Marquaid's affair to the court during their divorce proceedings.

One more article in Guardian that talks about Brando's and Christian's affair as if it's a given

It was said that in Last Tango in Paris, Brando didn't learn his lines. He taped them in places around the set so that he could appear like he was just thinking them up as he said them. Was Brando the biggest bullshitter ever or did he really believe that?

Very interesting articles. Thank you. :)

One more photo of Marlon with Tennessee Williams.

Lol R40, Marlon did that a lot, especially when he was not very young, anymore.

Brando flirting with Wally

wally is ugly as fuck. Don't know what Brando saw in him

Brando on the set of his 1st film with bulging biceps. DROOL

"In his 1976 biography "The Only Contender" by Gary Carey, Brando was quoted as saying, "Like a large number of men, I, too, have had homosexual experiences, and I am not ashamed."

Wasn't he into having things like huge dildos shoved up his ass?

Brando outted himself again before he died. Pretty sure we talked about it here. BUT I think it was more of a "thing" in his past then his present. He was BFF's with Jack Nicholson, and Jack bought his home for him when he was going to lose it.

R45 - yes he was so gorgeous that you wondered why he settled for that dreary Teresa Wright.

R45, this photo is wonderful and it's rare, i have never seen it before. THANKS FOR SHARING! You are a sweetheart.

He's good looking, but he looks too much like my grandfather when he was young.

Back in the seventies, one of his ex-wives wrote a post-divorce tell-all, and she mentioned his affairs with men, women, and "at least one duck".

There was a minor scandal, but it didn't hurt his career (a series of flop films did). Nobody thought he was the sweet boy next door, the revelations helped his bad-boy image more than they hurt.

I have an interesting story about Brando, Brando's sister, and Cox but it must have one of the DL banned words because it won't post in this thread.

Then put spaces between the letters, R53.

Before he began working as an actor, Wally Cox was making je-wel-ry, mostly men's cuff links, and, at the same time, developing a few monologues as a way to overcome his shyness.

He was walking down the street in New York City one day and found a young man and a girl having a spat over an empty peddler's cart. The young man was Maron Brando, whom Wally had had as a fourth-grade classmate in Evanston, Illinois, and the girl was Marlon's sister, Frances. Marlon wanted Frances to get into the cart and be pushed along, and she didn't want to. Wally renewed his acquaintance with Marlon, got into the cart himself and the two went merrity off down the street. Shortly afterward they took an apartment together.

Maron Brando hadn't starred in "A Streetcar Named Desire" then, or much of anything else. But he was on his way, and as he grew to greatness he managed to bring Wally to bigger and better parties, attended by bigger and more important theatre people. Wally gave his monologues at these parties and, as was inevitable, a certain Judy Freed, NBC policy editor, arranged an audition for him with Max Gordon, proprietor of the Village Vanguard, a not very dressy but charming night club in Greenwich Village.

From the Vanguard, Wally moved to guest appearance on radio and TV shows, and finally the Ford Dealers of America decided to sponsor him in the Mr. Peepers series. It was never meant to be anything except a summer show.

Wally finally moved from Brando's apartment because he couldn't stand Marlon's pet raccoon, and owning only three suits and a motorcycle because he doesn't need anything more in life.

[italic]Taken from a feature article about Wally Cox by Perry Manfield in "Radio-TV Mirror" June 1953. [/italic]

I knew about adding spaces R54, but didn't know what word in the story was forbidden. Thus I figured on trying one sentence at a time. When the first sentence was rejected by DL, I finally narrowed it down to one word, stupidly banned.

interesting (to me at least) that brando and marilyn had a short fling in the mid 50's and remained friends until her passing, cox was friends with monroe and was in "something's got to give"... interesting all 3 were friends with each other...

i wonder if cox and brando really were lovers, who was the top? pretty kinky and sexy if lowly mr.peepers was the dominant top to handsome studly marlon! talk about a role reversal of power control!...

"interesting (to me at least) that brando and marilyn had a short fling in the mid 50's"

Brando fucked everybody but Elaine Stritch. Shelley Winters tells of her night with Brando in her first book. This was in NYC when all of them were still going to Actors Studio.

The interesting thing was that they all knew and socialized with each other. When they all moved to Hollywood, Shelley and Marilyn were roommates. They all hung out together.

[quote]Brando fucked everybody but Elaine Stritch.

Elaine was aiming for a relationship with Rock Hudson.

"Elaine was aiming for a relationship with Rock Hudson."

Thank God she got her claws into that Bays English Muffin Queen.

R55, yes i remember reading in a Brando biography about the moment Brando met Wally again. It was a funny moment with Wally getting into the cart! However, I didn't remember about the notorious raccoon of Brando that drove Wally mad. Lol, i enjoyed the article you kindly sent, that goes without saying.~~~~~~~

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Last Tango in Paris should have been shot with Brando and Wally Cox. Infinately more entertaining.

I didn't find anything sexually explicit in Last Tango... Everything was left to imagination. Not even a good kiss. Nada.

So he fucked James Dean, right?

Marlo

I know he was still doing it when he made that movie with Johnny Depp and after that Depp decided he would work that same way from then on. But instead of needing cue cards or cheat sheets they had those little ear buds in and someone was reading the lines to them.

Link at r43 makes me think of Leo and Lucas Haas.

bump.

Marlon looking sexy eating apple.

Marlon smoking in a tight white tee

Brando and his puppy looking serious

r72 Around these parts, we call that animal on his shoulder a CAT.

Was Brando a bottom?

Brando did whatever the fuck he wanted with whomever the fuck he wanted. Which is why Brando was always my hero.

By all accounts, fyi, Wally Cox was one of those guys with a tight wiry body underneath that nerd exterior (a forefather to all the hot tech nerds today) and was very athletic too, in wrestling maybe? Can't remember but I don't think Brando's attraction is as farfetched as it might seem based on Mr. Peepers or whatever it was. Plus Wally was smart and Brando put major stock into that.

Brando probably fucked anything that moved and was truly bisexual; he also seemed to partner with the pain and the beautiful. Wally was someone Brando knew before he became a legend. Most likely Cox was someone with whom he could be himself w/o the various layers of bullshit. Cox achieved a level of fame that gave him a steady income and an identity---that probably gave him a level of security that most people around Brando lacked. It seems less off than Olivier and Danny Kaye.

R75 = Shawn Pyfrom

Honestly, some of you seem unaware that there is this mysterious thing called 'love' that actually transcends what someone looks like. Brando was a complex man, and an intelligent one, and it should come as no surprise that he required more to secure his lasting affections than a pretty face.

Marlon and Wally's families were friends. Here's how far back the relationship went...

[quote]Marlon and Wally were 9-year-old boys when their parents introduced them -- Marlon's mother and Wally's stepfather were friends in Chicago, where the stepfather worked for NBC. The boys became fast, albeit unlikely, friends, said Eleanor Robinson, Cox's sister. "Marlon was kind of a rough little boy," she said. "He tied Wally to a tree one afternoon and then left him. I'm surprised they remained friends, but they did." A few years later, Wally's family moved to New York City. The Brandos, coincidentally, followed in the 1940s, and Brando began studying acting. Cox made je.we.lry in those days, using a pillowcase to lug his wares around to private parties. Cox would perform impromptu monologues at those parties, and people urged him to put together a nightclub act. Soon he was making appearances in New York and Hollywood and doing guest stints on Ed Sullivan's show.

Well said, R78.

[quote]Said a family friend, "Wally was the big love of Marlon's life."

I read that Marilyn would call him at all hours of the day and night just to talk. He always let her ramble on and on and was most patient with her. They remained friends after the loving.

When she died, Marlon was besieged by reporters and columnists looking for some anecdotes about Marilyn. He let them all know that he would never reveal anything about their friendship. It was personal and private to him alone. Pretty impressive.

The best story is a young Paul Newman stalking him and literally throwing himself at Brando in New York City. The next day Brando said he fucked Newman silly all night. They had a short but scorching hot affair. Like all his men, Dean especially, Newman was completely submissive and essentially a slave for Brando. He was very dominant.

R82. When did Brando say all this? Source? 8 don't believe it. Brando was straight...no doubt he experimented but that in no way makes him bi. A lot of wishful thinking going on here.

But but but according to Datalounge Bisexuals dont exist ? You mean I have to re-think all I have learned from Datalounge? I havent got the time!

Bingo.

Brando only experimented? LMAO. He was more into men than he was women, everybody knows that. And Newman by all reports in that article was a sugar pop. That's an incredible read.

R85, Darwin Porter's unauthorized "biographies" are works of fiction. That cannot be said enough.

He was not a gay

Back in the day, it appears Wally Cox was do-able.

[Quote]Brando was straight.

There is literal photographic evidence to refute you

Unless I missed it no one knew about his fling with Richard Pryor back when this thread was first active.