Can we please have an honest conversation about Gabourey Sidibe?!
I don't care what her size is, my BIG problem is that she can't act her way out of a paper bag.
Her performance on AHS: Coven, is horrible beyond words.
Now, I'm not a hater. If someone would like to recommend something else where she is a shining star, I'll check it out.
But from what I'm seeing on my tv screen, she's in demand because of her weight, not her talent.
It was so funny how she had to sit on a special chair at the 2010 academy awards, because Kodak Theatre chairs were too small for her big ass.
I've never seen her in anything before "Coven," but I have to admit she's pretty bad. So "Precious" was a fluke?
She had a reoccurring role on that Showtime dramedy about cancer. I watched two episodes and couldn't take it, or her. She has an oddly "valley girlish" delivery.
I've never seen Tower Heist, but am curious.
Did she play Eddie Murphy's love interest. I got that impression from watching the trailer when it came out.
I think Precious was presented as emotionless as a result of the horrors she had been through, so in that particular movie her acting was fine.
Link to this fact r1?
She was decent in Tower Heist...she played a Jamaican maid, but I don't remember her playing Eddie Murphy's love interest (although her character flirted with him).
The girl isn't a good actress, but she was effective in Precious.
She's worked hard to have what career she has. No famous parents helping those doors open (ahem). The girl has been attacked since day one and I think a lot of is unwarranted.
I wholeheartedly agree that she was terrible in [italic]The Big C.[/italic]
Her face is so fat it makes it difficult for her to move it in the subtle ways that can be an actor's bread and butter. Not even trying to be mean, but it is just the truth.
Melissa McCarthy is fat and she's actually a pretty good/emotive actress.
Gabourey Sidibe reminds me of Roseanne (a horrible actress who actually won an Emmy). Being fat is their schtick...
I've seen her in interviews and I really, really like her. But the weight is a real concern. She's too young to be that heavy. As far as her acting skills are concerned, she needs a lot of work.
I'm afraid she's a one shot wonder who will, eventually disappear. Or sign an endorsement deal with Jenny Craig.
She is a good actress, you just hate fat people. There will always be fat people and one might be wiping your butt, when you are in the nursing home. So just accept them. They aren't like you, op.
Also, you can tell from the many scenes of her eating in AHS: Coven, she wouldn't mind filming all day. None of that fake eating-for-the-camera for her.
I can't stand fat people, but she would be great in Coven if she could act. That show is full of grotesques.
Apparently it was tough to find an actress who fit the physical type required for the role of "Precious." There aren't a lot of young, plain, morbidly obese black actresses out there. Sidibe auditioned for the roll; I think it was an open casting call. Despite her lack of acting experience she got the role of Precious because she looked like the character.
I saw "Precious." I found her performance to be very uninspiring. She was boring and unconvincing. But she was praised to the skies for it, which is amazing. I guess all that gushing about her performance was the politically correct thing to do.
She doesn't really have any talent. That's been confirmed by her other attempts to act.
She's a novelty. A very BIG novelty.
[quote]Sidibe auditioned for the roll
She probably thought it was a cinnamon roll.
(BTW, the word you were looking for is "role.")
That she even is getting work in hollywood is an achievement. She was actually fine in precious and deserved to win an oscar more than sandra bullock but so did everyone else in that category. Everything else i have seen her in she is the butt of fat jokes. I cant see her in other acting jobs where everyone in the cast or audience looks past how big she is unless she loses the weight. If not no doubt her roles will dry up.
Her weight issue is a sticky situation. She only gets roles because she's fat; however if she lost weight she'd never work again because she can't act.
She didn't have to do or say a whole lot in Precious, just act sad adn miserable. It was Moniques movie.
She didn't annoy me in [italic]Tower Heist[/italic], but her lack of ability is painfully obvious on AHS.
I don't understand criticism of her in AHS. She's delivering what's required of her. No more, no less.
When Precious was released, Howard Stern was almost right when he said she will never find work again. Well she found work, but there aren't many rolls, roles, rauls, that she can do. My suggestion to her...disappear for a year, lose a ton of weight, blow everyone's mind and get a TV show. If Mo'Nique can do it- she can too.
She's had two profile shows since. She doesn't need career advice.
That's why I can't watch the show anymore, it's simply too grotesques. And I'm not talking about Gabourey.
Emmy for precious!
Why can't she get her tummy stapled?
[quote]Melissa McCarthy is fat and she's actually a pretty good/emotive actress.
McCarthy is fat; Sidibe is morbidly obese. She won't live to see 40 if she doesn't fix her fat ass up.
Being the second (Clinton being the first) Dem in history to hurt and not help the poor.
I think she was praised so much for her performance in "Precious" because the character was so different from her real personality. It kind of shocked people I think. She played a poor, miserable, depressed, mumbling girl while in real life she's a happy, bubbly, valley girl ( a more articulate version of a valley girl). However, I do agree that "Precious" was really Monique's film.
Melissa McC also does mostly (if not all) comedies, and generally pretty broad humor at that (no pun intended.)
What is it with those amongst us who so virulently hate fat/overweight people? The invective hurled their way astonishes me sometimes.
My mom and grandmother were the same way. Are they trying to make themselves feel better? I honestly don't understand.
There's no way in HELL OP would have started this thread if she wasn't:
She's been fantastic on everything she's done with Jimmy Kimmel -Black Hitler!!
She'd be fantastic on SNL, because she's funny and charming. But if all you can see is her weight and ethnicity, you'll think she should be playing the put-upon poor woman in a "Good Times" remake. Or "#1 Ladies Detective Agency".
Fat is the only minority you can persecute w/o consrquences, and boy howdy do some gays hate the obese...
I've found her acting passable in other parts but on AHS her line delivery is so flat...even on her almost death bed last week, her comeback to Kathy Bates had no oomph or anything remotely in character. The only believably given line she has done is when she told Emma Roberts, "Bitch, I will EAT you!"
She's been cast as "sullen teenager". There's certainly nothing inspiring in her acting, but she's doing job. Nothing special. See also: Emma Roberts.
R29 Why can't Dr. Freud fix your neurosis, cure your homosexuality disorder, so you can be "normal", and not "grotesque"?
0r, "Bitch, she was born this way!!"
Fat / obese is not a minority.
Is a fucking choice.
It's true. Gay men do hate fat people. If you're fat it will be very difficult to get a date unless you become a bear. And to be honest, I don't think I would date a heavy guy ( I'm just being brutally honest). However, I never bash heavy people.
BET or MTV should have spun off "Precious" as a one hour weekly drama. Precious works well as a figure of melodrama and a weekly serial would be perfect. Good theme song, recurring and guest characters, a major crisis every week. The show would win all kinds of awards: "The most depressing and entertaining show ever." An inner city soap opera with a big heart, like "Ugly Betty" without its cloying camp.
Yeah, OP, an honest conversation is what you wanted.
R42, that sounds simply awful. I assume it's a parody post.
Precious has AIDS at the end of the film. I always figured that her character died within a year.
A parody post, r44? I liked my idea! People got AIDS back then and are still alive. The show could include death scares for Precious every now and then to boost ratings. Btw, Sapphire did write a sequel to "Push" called "The Kid" that received very little attention. It is about the Precious' child and his adventures growing up, very sordid and floridly written.
Does she wear Capri pants?
I love her.
yes r35, since we are so kind to skinny white people like Gwyneth and Angelina.
I think Gabby is tolerable on AHS, but I prefer the high-functioning down-syndrome girl, she's fascinating. Hope she can still get work after AHS, I think she should be a star. A character actress star of course, I'm not saying a huge one.
I haven't seen Precious yet but I'm definitely curious.
She's actually sort of funny in Tower Heist but that's because her Jamaican accent was good.
She's amateurish, however, in Precious, The Big C and AHS: Coven.
"You know why they're obese? It's the PORTIONS they're given."
How much does she weigh?
I'd watch r42s show. Hell Teen Mmo is damn bleak and people love that shit.
GS was surprisingly funny when she hosted SNL. But her acting is fairly bad on AHS. Not as bad as the one with Downs Syndrome though.
Still, you would think that if she really wanted to have a career in Hollywood that she would at least give half an effort to shed some pounds.
I think Jamie Brewer, the actress with Down syndrome on AHS is ok on the show. She is more likeable and has more of a presence than other DS actors like Chris Burke and Lauren Potter.
Out of the younger cast members on AHS, I don't think any of them will be huge. They will stick to TV work.
r9 is correct.
[quote]How much does she weigh?
With or without makeup?
Funny this thread is about Gabby when Hollywood is littered with blonde haired and blue eyed women that can't act for shit. Lord the world is going to end by letting a fat black chick get some acting jobs.
But who pretends the blue-eyed talentless blondes can act, r58? I have the feeling some people pretend GS can act because they don't want to catch any flak.
Nobody pretends the blonds can act. We constantly talk around here about what a piece of wood Goop is r58. Just because you've got your head buried in your ass doing your I'm A Victim routine, doesn't mean the world stops spinning in the meantime.
She's no Meryl Streep but so fucking what.
No man is a Meryl.
I LOVE Mo'Nique, her comedic timing is perfection. I watched "Grandma's Boy" just to see her and she is a friggin scene stealer.
She's this generation's Audrey Hepburn.
It would be funny to show Queenie sit on and break each of the toilets in the house and then have everyone assume that it's a manifestation of a new Supreme power.
I forgot that Mo'nique won the Oscar for Precious. Good for her!
Does anyone know why Mo'Nique hasn't appeared in any film since Precious? Is it intentional on her part (I noticed her comment critical of Hollywood politics in her victory speech)? Does she not want to play "the game" or was she expecting people would flock to her with roles? Would she have been better than Oprah in "The Butler"?
Same reason as Rita Moreno didn't make a film for the rest of the decade (bar one b-movie) after WSS.
[quote] Does anyone know why Mo'Nique hasn't appeared in any film since Precious? Is it intentional on her part (I noticed her comment critical of Hollywood politics in her victory speech)? Does she not want to play "the game" or was she expecting people would flock to her with roles?
I suspect her unwillingness to play the game played a part, as did the fact that she did a TV show not long after (her talk show).
But most sadly, it's probably that we still don't have a lot of parts for African-American women. Not too many options. A handful of TV roles...but in movies, unless you're doing Tyler Perry movies, black women are playing historical figures...because the people in charge in Hollywood aren't willing to tell contemporary stories.
Completely, 100% agree with the OP, but like with all things like this on DL, you're not supposed to say it because race bait trolls will make it about race.
The girl can NOT act. And yes, I feel horrible about her weight and wish someone who loved her would beg and plead with her to do something about it before it kills her.
The first episode of AHS I saw I thought she was bad, (it was the one where the bull head stabbed her) but went back and watched On Demand episodes and I think she is okay. She is supposed to be grumpy and weird and some of her lines are funny and she delivers them well. I do agree with r49..the Down's Syndrome girl is a pretty good actress. I can see all the thoughts on her face and she delivers her lines well..and while she plays one of the most pleasant characters on a show of unpleasant one, she doesn't push the "Oh look I am a Down's kid, please love me," like that Corky kid did.
I wonder though if Precious looks at Angela Basset and is like "DAMN" but I would think all teh women on the show think that. JL looks like a shriveled corpse next to her.
Nobody cares OP! Take your ass down to the welfare school aint gonna help none!
I like her.
the Down's Syndrome woman is a wonderful actress. Gabourey is okay, but not great. She's believable in terms of her character's backstory, and she is actually pretty good when she's supposed to be terrified. She's less good when she's supposed to be snarky.
I loved her in Precious but I agree she is weak and miscast on AHS. Her weight is also a big distraction next to all the skinny actresses on the show. She just feels out of place.
[quote] JL looks like a shriveled corpse next to her.
People like you are the reason JL started fucking with her face in the first place. Asshole.
I am an actor and Gabourey is good. The character may be under-developed on Coven, but Gaby is doing her job well. She is realistic and in the moment, but the role is a bit vague. Hopefully the writers will flesh it out and the kid will have more to work with.
R79 is an actor and thinks GS is good. Jesus Christ. Do you live in some group home where you act in skits? GS shows no range within a limited character, which is possible for an actor. She can't enunciate. I doubt if given more than a few lines of dialogue she could actually memorize them.
She's terrible. She'll probably always be terrible because she doesn't have any talent. None. In some ways she reminds me of that actress Ann Ramsey in "Throw Momma From the Train." She got a Best Supporting nom, I think. Mainly because she was playing a cranky, ugly, old woman. Her only future in acting was playing ugly, old women.
But then she died....
[quote] She can't enunciate.
Say what you will about her questionable talent, but Gaby has been able to successfully parlay her 15 minutes of Precious fame into a respectable multi-film career alongside Hollywood's A-List.
Which is more than I can say for, say, Nikki Blonsky, another token "big girl."
"Questionable talent" R83?
There's no "questionable" about it. She has no talent.
[quote] She's worked hard to have what career she has. No famous parents helping those doors open (ahem).
That's cute that you think that. She never wanted to be an actress. She was going to college for a degree in psychology. She went along to support a friend at an audition and they hired her instead
And for everyone calling for her to lose weight . . . usually I recommend obese people to shed some pounds, too, but why on Earth would she lose the weight that makes her a sought-after novelty in Hollywood? If she were thin and attractive (with the same lack of acting ability), do you really think she would be getting all of these roles? Her weight is her bread and butter (pun intended).
..and yet I makes more in a year then you ever will in your lifetime.
She's a good actor and I hope she keeps getting work. I do hope she will get control of her weight because we know it is an early death sentence...the same with Melissa McCarthy.
She is dreadful on AHS:C
Her delivery on AHS is normally flat, but when she had the comas or whatever, she did pretty well with the emotional part if her awakening.
[quote] She went along to support a friend at an audition and they hired her instead
Happens all the time
If that no talent clown Justin Timberlake can get roles why can't Gabourey Sidibe? Hollywood is saturated with mediocre white people who have no talent but op is complaining about one fat black girl who is being given the oppurtunity to act. I would rather see Gabourey Sidibe instead of Kristen Stewrat who couldn't act to save her life.
eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww she is so fat and ugly
Gabourey doesn't have talent, there's not really way to argue against that. But plenty of pretty, skinny, white girls in Hollywood get roles and also don't have a drop of talent, so I can't really get my hackles up over her.
let's not, OP
r97 That's why Sidibe annoys many posters on this thread. The crux of the issue: they're in the basement and she's not.
[quote]I don't understand criticism of her in AHS. She's delivering what's required of her. No more, no less.
That's what it feels like to me - it doesn't feel like the directors have any expectation that anyone on set will act. Even Jessica Lange and Kathy Bates are these to just chew the scenery.
Ryan Murphy put her in a fast-food uniform in AHS, since can't imagine a backstory for her that isn't stereotypically classist and racist. Because she's not thin and gorgeous.
[quote] That's why Sidibe annoys many posters on this thread. The crux of the issue: they're in the basement and she's not.
I remember Gabby Sidibe on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, and she revealed that she once met Joan Cusack at a Hollywood party, and Joan told her to quit acting because she'll never get roles.
I'm sure that GS faces the same type of vitriol hurled at her by Datalounge, on a daily basis, and yet she keeps going.
You have to have very thick skin to work in Hollywood, and probably have to face 1000 rejections for every acceptance, so I'm sure she doesn't give two shits what anyone here thinks.
The main thing is that she is employed, and I'm sure that's all she cares about.
Now whether or not she can act, is a separate issue. Personally, I don't think she can act, but some of you here insist on inter-twining her acting ability with her looks, which is what I really find offensive.
I've been critical of her acting here strictly based on her lack of talent.
However, being offended by intertwining her ability with her looks, makes no sense at all.
She gets roles because she's morbidly obese. Her "abilities" are minimal at best, but to the extent they exist at all they are inextricably linked to her appearance.
Yeah, she's pretty bad in AHS. Distractingly so. It's like she shows up after reading her lines an hour before, and makes no attempt to act her character.
Especially when contrasted with Lange and Bates, who are both great, and the rest of the cast who all hold their own.
I love Joan Cusak. What a cunt!
She did an amazing job in Precious which launched her career. Yet I think she had the benefit of it being her first role otherwise people would have thought she always acted like that in parts.
At the risk of sounding politically incorrect, this hippo-humanoid is sooo fat and black, she looks like an elephant wrapped in electrical tape. She looks like Jabba the Hutt after a forest fire. Or Ghostbusters' enormous Stay-Puft marshmallow man dipped in used crankcase oil.
I really want to like her but I have to agree with OP. She's just not a good actress and seems to only getting roles because of her unique look.
She was good in Precious and in the Eddie Murphy movie. On AHS she is okay but some of that is the writing as in we don't know much about any of the girls. When she nails it, like during her bit describing Madison to the witch's counsel, she nails it. Queenie is a tough girl who does not give a fuck.
The interesting thing is that if you watch an interview with Gabby she is NOTHING like any of the characters she plays so there is some sort of thought process going into it. Whether it's the right one or not is unclear in some cases.
I like Gabby and her acting reminds me of the native woman on that Alaska show that was great--it had a moose walking around in the intro.
Seems like a nice girl, but her acting is terrible. PERIOD.
Her acting ability is limited; limited to playing obese, plain, sullen, monotone-voiced black girls.
She's not at all monotone in real life, so there is some ability there. However, her talent appears rather limited.
She doesn't compare to Kathy Bates, who is also fat.
I don't begrudge her success. I'm happy for her. But, I'd agree she's not the best actor. Of course she's hardly the only one "making it" in Hollywood who isn't a great actor. She was fine in Precious. I'm sure since she's a black woman and since she's super big (and not really in a workable way), it will generally be over sooner rather than later. So, she should ride the wave for as long as it lasts.
Not sure why people are putting GS and Melissa McCarthy in the same category. McCarthy is actually very talented and about 300 lbs. lighter than GS. There is nothing similar there.
Melissa McCarthy does get a lot of hate because of her weight like GS does. But I agree R115, McCarthy is very talented. I don't think GS is horrible, but she's not that great. I think McCarthy will have a solid TV career for years to come and she probably won't do a lot of movies.
I don't see GS being on future seasons of AHS. Most of the viewers don't care for her and Ryan Murphy has likely figured that out.
They should do an all-female reboot of "What's Happening" and Gaby can play Rerun.
Snide and sarcastic Dee would now be a bitchy black queen.
Agree, it has nothing to do with her physicality, her voice is emotionless on AHS.
[quote]why on Earth would she lose the weight that makes her a sought-after novelty in Hollywood?
Because she'll have an early death?
GS does what I call "Porn Star" acting. Every line she delivers is pretty much flat accept when she has to be angry. You notice in porn movies how "alive" the actress become when they have beat someone up or cuss them out? Then they go dead again.
I too am an actor. And I remember my teacher telling me "Anger is the cheapest of emotions, try to avoid it." GS is bad, plain and simple. And she is not growing. At least someone like a Justin Timberlake is trying to grow. GS is serving up the same thing. And she is awkward to look at. TV is a visual medium, the light doesn't hit her well.
HOWEVER, I must say I am equally miffed by how Angela Basset acts with every muscle in her face. Me she feels she must over enunciate to make up for GS.
[quote]HOWEVER, I must say I am equally miffed by how Angela Basset acts with every muscle in her face. Me she feels she must over enunciate to make up for GS.
I get what you are saying, but it is American Horror Story. I think she is purposely going for a bit of camp in her performance which is fine for that show. Lets be honest, it is a little hard to overact on AHS.
[quote]Melissa McCarthy does get a lot of hate because of her weight like GS does.
In person, Melissa McCarthy is probably the same size as most of your aunts out there. It's just on screen that is blown way out of proportion when you're standing next to humans who have starved themselves down to various jutting angles.
GS on the other hand, who looks enormous on screen, probably looks enormous in person as well.
[quote] I think she is purposely going for a bit of camp in her performance which is fine for that show.
Angela does this in everything. She practically sucks her lips back into her head to pronounce, "Who."
She fat. She knows it. Got lots of fat rolls that show it.