And I'm going to agree with one of the last posters on the first thread.
Not voting out Vytas was a dumb move .... except I think Tina/Katie planned it this way because the only other relatives together at the merge are Aras/Vytas (both strong players) and it takes a target off Tina/Katie for bit.
[quote]damn HAYDEN is still FUGLY
It's because of his fake teeth.
Geez, Kat has issues. Of course, I can see why, since Hayden doesn't really love her.
[quote] Wish there was a Survivor All Hunks version ....with just the really hot guys from past seasons.
I can just see it now at the challenges:
Probst: "Team cummon Iyewannalaya, want to what you're playing for? [lifts his mumu and presents his puckered pink hole] "a feast like no other..."
Aras was a winner? I don't remember him at all. Strange.
Aras did win, but he does not haave a big personality like many of the other winner. Seems like a nice guy on a season when there are few others who are engaging...but I really do not knew every player yet, even Hayden is defined by Kat, not himself (at least to me).
Tyson is just supremely grating.
[quote] Not voting out Vytas was a dumb move ....
I'm telling you.. all the editing signs point to a Vytas win. Redemption from drug addiction.
Fundie Burnett and bromancer Probst just CREAM themselves over lame storylines like this.
I caint eaven spelle.
Pleeze ceep luving me.
It seems that Kat is desperate for Hayden's love. That's pretty sad.
Sometimes I love Vytas, and sometimes I don't. But, I do love his hairy body.
How pathetic is she? On national TV "please don't leave me"
I'm going to jump on the "I Hate Cat" bandwagon. I'm so glad that she got minimal airtime and that what was shown was totally humiliating.
Could Tina's daughter be a "terrible flirt" because she has no interest flirting with men? Tina's investment in her daughter's love life is creepy.
Glad to see that Caleb is still hanging in there...
Are there any "alpha" males left? They all seem kinda wimpy and insecure.
So far Monica has by far the best winner's edit. Vytas is clearly just a distraction.
Did anyone laugh when yoga instructor and pinging Vytas declared himself the "alpha male"?
"Could Tina's daughter be a 'terrible flirt' because she has no interest flirting with men? Tina's investment in her daughter's love life is creepy."
Exactly what I was thinking. "I'm ready to be a grandma." Tina, for God's sake, they've known each other for ONE DAY.
Yes,r17! I hate stereotypes,but he does have gay voice'. And Vytas is really overplaying that ex druggie story but I still like him.
Hayden is cute but he lacks some of BB fire here. I know he has to tone down his personality but I'd like to see more of him.
Laura B-what can I say? I cringed for the poor thing-her husband has played Survivor FOUR times and she doesn't know how ruthless people can be for a million dollars?!! I knew she was a goner after that blunder of admitting Vytas was next to go....
Hayden calling Kat naive was being very kind. She better be greatful she's blonde and cute, cause there's not much going on upstairs. Were Hayden's teeth that big on Big Brother? I quit watching prior to his season. He seems to have a slight speech inpediment, maybe due to his huge teeth (vaneers?).
I feel bad for Laura B. She seems like she's not a bad person, but just very socially inept. She was surprisingly good in some of the challenges too. Wasn't expecting to like her much because she was married to Poopert...er, Rupert, who I don't like at all.
Interestingly, Tina's daughter, Katie, moved from Tenn to NY. Some jesus freak was conversing about religion on twitter and she pretty much said she doesn't believe in it do to science. You could be onto something, R18.
I hope John or Laura B. win over that fake-titted bible beater Laura M. next week to come back into the game. Can't stand her or her homophobe daughter Cierra.
R19, not only does Vytas have gay voice but he has gay everything. Last week, he said something about he didn't know much about women but he knew they liked a man to be vulnerable, which I thought was him admitting he's gay with the "I don't know much about women" part, but apparently not - he actually thinks he's some sort of woman whisperer.
Kat seems to think Hayden will only date her if she's on a reality show. That says volumes about their relationship. Either he's a gold digger or she thinks he is.
But looking over at other people's puzzles is CHEATING!
I hadn't paid attention to too many Survivors' backgrounds. It's been mentioned here about too many Fundies being among the participants. I'm sorry that's the case.
If we get another version of Fans-vs.-Favorites edition of [italic]Survivor[/italic], which non-Fundies should play? (I'd prefer gay and/or gay-friendly, non-Fundies.)
I find it interesting that Tyson and Gervase are obsessed with getting rid of Aras, but they did not think of throwing the challenge so they could vote out Aras. Now thatthe tribes are merging Aras has time to find more allies and maybe figure out that Tyson and Gervase are gunning for him. Tyson irritates me and Gervase bores me, so I hope their big plans backfire.
I love seeing Fundies on the show.
For over 20 years, a Fundy has never won. It's always the same, they can't backstab or lie because they are so righteous and moral. And every year it is that exact concept that does them in, because let's face it, it's a show about doing whatever it takes to get to the end.
And every year they go down in flames, it's just a matter of time this year. It's great to watch because they never learn. They cling to their morality all the way to the bitter end and for over 20 years are still clueless about it all.
R25, you're not paying close attention. Aras is so gone when they get a chance. For example, they made a big deal about him backstabbing Laura M, and she seems most likely to return. In the previews, John, and the Laura's were shown competing in a challenge where older women historically do much better than big strong guys. I think next week, Laura M comes back, teams up with Tyson/Gervase and Aras is gone.
R27: I agree because the show has spent so much time on the Tyson/Gervase plot against the seemingly unconcerned Aras.
All that can be said has been said about Kat. The girl belongs in a rubber room, which is where she'll end up as soon as Hayden drops her.
It was strange to see Ciera's mouth blurred out at one point during the Redemption challenge. She said something CBS didn't want us to catch, but what could it have been? There was no reaction from her tribe to indicate that it was something inappropriate.
Whoever said Vytas is smarmy is right. His cockiness after Tina gave him hope of Survival really turned up the smarmy volume. He's gay, no doubt, but I'm sure if asked he'd say something like "I love everybody."
Does Tina's daughter give off a Lesbian-vibe?
It wouldn't surprise me if Tina had have some kind of deal with Aras.
Hate Monica Culpepper Hate Monica Culpepper Hate Monica Culpepper Hate Monica Culpepper
Throughout all the many seasons of SURVIVOR we have seen many displays of anger, bitterness, and tears when castaways have exited the show. We have even had a faked medical emergency, courtesy of a world-class drama-queen, among several real ones.
Congratulations Kat for outdoing each and every one of your predecessors. By giving us the most cringe-worthy and embarrassing display of emotion ever upon leaving the show,you have assured your well-deserved place in SURVIVOR lore.
I'm glad to see the last of Exile next week, Jeff having turned it into couples-counseling.
Can Kat really be so desperate? I suspect it was acting for the camera.
I don't know if it's a "deal" Tina has with Aras as much as I think she's probably just looking out for her original alliance buddy, R30. It's just both sickening and funny to watch Vytas brag about what a ladies' man he is when that probably doesn't even have much to do with the fact that he's sticking around.
Someone posted that Vytas is gay and it appears he is,so why is he brin do vague about his sexuality? He seems so open about everything else-isn't that what yoga is about,no holding back? Is Aras gay,too?
Tyson is straight?
Really.. we voted him out of the tribe. He had no choice r36.
I doubt Tina is this smart but keeping Vitas is good for her game in that she still had family left while everyone else did not. She goes into the merge with her daughter, Vitas loyal so they get Aras, and Monica. That give them 5. The wild card is who ever comes back. They will have all the power in the voting.
Tyson is (was?) a Mormon. He did missionary work and dropped out of BYU.
Hayden has had fake teeth for years.
[quote] Either he's a gold digger or she thinks he is.
He won Big Brother a couple of years ago. He's bound to have more money than she does.
Which is why Kat is desperate for Hayden.
That was a most embarassing display.
r40 He won 500K, after taxes about 300K not really life changing money since he probably had a lot of bills to pay (college I think) and family who thinks he hit the lotto. I would guess he has little BB money left.
This is the kind of thread that makes Datalounge shine - I agree with almost every post here - Kat's patheticness, Tina's creepiness, etc.
[R43]: You must not know many working class/middle class guys Hayden's age that do not work on Wall Street, most would kill for 300K. It may not be life changing, but it's a very nice amount of money.
Tyson looks just like the old guy with the humped back in The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Richard O'Brien (Riff Raff) was 33 when Rocky Horror was filmed.
I'm rooting for John to win.
I know plenty and 300K is a lot of money but lets face it - if he had college loans to pay off (he was a college student when in the BB house). And when you win money you want to take care of your family so I am sure he spent some on mom and dad. You would have to guess he maybe has 100K left saved, if that.
100,000. is more than I have saved.
Someone posted a series of pics on Survivor Sucks of Vytas looking as G-A-Y as can be. Chance that he's straight? About zero, I'd say.
Can I ask everyone a question?
Who cares if he is or is not gay? Isn't this gossiping very much like the office gossiping about YOUR life? It is despicable in the office, why not here?
Gossip is the food of the godess.
Is R53 Vytas? Or has he/she just not been here before? My God...
Smarmy is the exact perfect word to describe vytas. He teaches at the yoga studio i attend but I haven't taken his class. After watching him I don't really want to take his class even though he's prob a good teacher. I'm really not feeling him.
Bless your heart, R53
Both Vytas and Aras could both be gay based on their mannerisms. I noticed Aras at the redemeption island comp with his "Big Brother Andy" legs perfectly crossed.
It's pretty normal to see straight guys crossing their legs.
Why do some posters think Tyson is gay? I did not see either of Tyson's first two seasons- 2009 and 2010 were years when I was busy with a lot of work and family issues- so can someone tell me why some at Dl are shocked that Tyson has a girlfriend?
Since this is my first time watching Tyson I will say that I find him both very irritating and entertaining. Tyson is certaintly a good casting choice. I think Tyson has been plotting against Aras since day one, by the way.
R52 You think he's gay from that picture!? Are you 12?
Regarding Hayden and Kat; I think Hayden really loves Kat now, but she may lose him by being so needy. Kat is clearly very insecure and needs to spend some time with a good therapist!
Am I the only one who thinks that Tina always meant to get rid of Laura B? With Vytas and Aras making the merge, Tina and Katie will be able to hide behind a more threatening family pair.
My god, John has a fine fucking hairy body.
Damn, John is going to be missed. He is gorgeous.
What.the heck is Tyson saying to Tina in the previews.about them shutting him out ? Dance little man dance. That is a lie ....he was totally part of what they all thought was the planned voting. Tyson in charge with a hidden immunity idol. I am not loving that. Hoping for a blind side where he has the idol but doesn't use it.
Laura and Monica crazy players. Monica will be lucky to make top five in any alliance. Funny how her trust issues vanished when Tyson told her to vote for Aras, who she was pa rt of a five alliance with.
Before the switch up. Isn't that exactly how Kat got voted out ? Oh wait ...she was gunning for Monica ....
Also. ...what the hell was Tina talkin about them losing FIVE jury votes ?. She doesn't even know when the jury starts ... And from the vote reveal ...seems everyone voted for Aras ....except Vytas, Tina, Katie and Aras who is not guaranteed to get back in the game either.
The winner of this season is already declared, Candace, who gets to fuck John. The end.
And....Caleb survives another week. Yay!
First thought I had when Vitas (stupid name) won immunity: Aras has to go. Obviously I wasn't the only one.
Still hate the hidden idols that are randomly discovered. I may have to resign myself of this fight.
Thanks to the person who linked to the awesome shot of RO as Riff Raff as its now my screen wallpaper!
Caleb is the shrinking violet. It is hardly never seen.
I can't stand Tyson, and his nasty personality. He looks like a lesbian with girly ponytails.
I'm with you R70. Does ANYONE here like Tyson? He's actually hard to look at and he thinks he's some god. Now that he has the idol and Aras is gone, we're going to have to hear confessionals from him about how amazing he is for the rest of the season. Gag me.
Monica is the definition of a pathetic wife. She spent the first half of the game whining about her husband and she's going to spend the rest of it following Tyson around. Newsflash, your creepy filled up face and rock hard boobs aren't making you look any better. I have a hard time even looking at her and Tyson.
Why did Tina make that comment to paranoid and antsy Monica?
How cocky was Aras and especially Vytas? Everything out of Vytas's mouth was "they aren't brave enough to get rid of us," "this show should be called Aras vs. Vytas." Neither of them could read the other players. Actually Aras is the especially stupid one considering he was with Tyson and Gervase the whole time and never sensed anything. I am sad that the brothers are doomed though because they're the last eye candy on this season.
I'm not looking forward to the rest of the season if it's just going to be Tyson and his followers (I know some of you may find Hayden attractive, but I just can't) picking off everyone until the end. I'm also sad that Redemption Island takes up so much time that could be used for character development because all we see is endless strategy talk.
The typo in the subject heading of this thread is just so damned off-putting.
And in other news, I still want Brad Culpepper deep inside me, as does Jeff.
Why the fuck was Laura B sent off first she came in second? It should have been John but Jeff wanted to oogle his body and hear about west point. What a fag.
Do they still show who the players voted for in the closing credits? I haven't noticed that this year. Actually I think my DVR cuts off before the end, so I only would have seen the votes the two times I've watched live.
It was delightful to see the look of shock on Tina's face when she realized she wasn't running the show.
[quote]Do they still show who the players voted for in the closing credits?
They have not been showing the votes this season r74. So you have to be able to piece it together based on the couple that they always show actually submitting their votes and then you get the rest of the picture by seeing who got the boot and remembering which alliance's plan played out to make that happen.
So for tonight you know that Aras, Vitas, Tina, and her daughter split their votes between Laura and her daughter. Then everyone else voted for Aras.
Seems like they're going to take out the million dollar winners first. Especially since it appears that Tina goes off next week. Bye girl.
[quote]Am I the only one who thinks that Tina always meant to get rid of Laura B?
Of course. They just used Laura B's loose lips as an excuse. They were always going to stick with their alliance with Aras, Gervase, Tyson and Monica. Getting rid of Vytas would be a betrayal to Aras and send him scurrying to the other side.
[quote]Caleb is the shrinking violet. It is hardly never seen.
Just like his penis, never seen behind all those layers of fat.
Actually if he stays on the show a long time and loses a lot of weight, he could be cute.
[quote]Also. ...what the hell was Tina talkin about them losing FIVE jury votes ?
She's including Monica in the five. She doesn't know that she voted for Anus.
Two hunks leaving in one night, this was more than I can take! I have to sit down and catch my breath. Oh my, I have tears. What a lost to Survivor. Don't know if the show can recover from this.
What the FUCK were the producers thinking to bring out that pole hugging challenge?!? They know that challenge is geared towards a small female. John never stood a chance!! Don't they know most of the audience tune in to see John and his body? Why are they trying to deliberately ruin the show?!??? So unfair.
Sexy as fuck seeing John's hairy legs wrapped around that pole.
I agree, R82. That was definitely a challenge for a small female or a wiry male. I miss John. He was hot and sweet.
I really want to see Tina and Monica get their comeuppance.
Were there are always TWO rounds of redemption island, or is this just another ploy to keep Aras in the game? I'm sure CBS was churning out the "Brother vs Brother" finale promos before the season even started filming.
And it's always humorous when only ONE person searches for the immunity idol and magically finds it. Tyson must just be supremely intelligent to correctly decipher those clues.
I really don't recall Aras at all from his season. It's weird. He's like a vacuum. Strangely there, but not. His brother is more engaging. That being said, I didn't understand a single thing that happened last night. That episode was a confused, badly edited mess.
Vytas teaches at YogaWorks in Santa Monica. I have friends who took his classes. He's still listed as a teacher, but don't know if he's there right now.
r86, Aras looks a lot older and more worn than he did on his season.
John deserved to go back in the game. He dominated those challenges, and that last one was designed for Laura.
Hello fans - Sorry if I seemed distracted during the Redemption Island comp - I was imagining myself as John's pole.
R82, +1. He was looking VERY good last night. Sad that he left.
Separately, I know on Survivor every guy ends up growing facial hair, but John's beard did NOTHING for him, IMO.
Aras' season was one of my favorites. Crazy Shane, Cirie getting off the couch and doing mad manipulating and finally Terry and Aras' rivalry. Aras started as the mellow Yoga Guru and descended into hilarious angry frustration because of Terry's challenge prowess and smooth arrogance. Then when he finally beats Terry and he goes back into mellow Yoga mood, he slips on a rock and impales himself on a champagne glass!
To add to R92, here was Aras's famous moment from his season, bitching out Terry after Terry finally lost a challenge and was whining about it. They actually edited out when Aras yells "somebody call a whambulance, Terry's crying on the course." Aras was this yoga guy in his 20s who was so frustrated that he couldn't beat some douchey ex-military guy, Terry.
R88, I still think Aras looks good, but you're right that he aged more than I would have expected.
First of all, "Vytas" is a Lithuanian name, so the poster who called it a "stupid" name is being narrow-minded. As for Aras I don't think he looks aged or worn; he is now in his early thirties and looks it, which is not a bad thing.
I am sure that Aras figured out he was going; at first he seemed so confident, but then when the camera went to his face a couple of times he looked so stoic. When Aras cast his vote for Laura M his expression said that he knew neither Laura nor Ciera were leaving.
As for Redemption Island still being in play, I don't believe that is happening for Aras' benefit. Aras was never a favorite of Jeff Probst or the producers so they would do anything to rig the game in Aras' favor.
How old is Vytus? He looks to be in his 40s or 50s and never married or had kids.
So Vickus and Anus are estranged yet they are both yoga instructors? How did that happen? They both separately arrived at that career choice by coincidence??
[quote]I didn't understand a single thing that happened last night. That episode was a confused, badly edited mess.
You must be pretty stupid. Please don't operate heavy machinery.
John needed to take his socks off last night. His socks were making him slip and not get a grip. Plus there would be closeups of his bare feet. Lost opportunity.
Vytas is only a couple of years older than Aras, who was born in September of 1981. While Aras did have some problems while growing up they were never estranged.
I would love a 3some with Vytas and Aras, god they are hot
People here don't seem to like him but I think I want Tyson to win.
Tina's melt-down is going to put an end to her 'below the radar' strategy more definitively than losing Aras did.
I look forward to the night Sierra blindsides her own mother. The foreshadowing last night was pretty funny.
WTF? I cannot stand that Redemption Island is still in effect. It seemed pointless to boot players off RI only to clean the slate and re-start it again. There's way too much going on in this season for me to remotely care.
Tyson was a bit more likable last night.
I doubt that John would have gone very far if he come back into the game. But, he had no chance last night. It was obvious immediately that Laura M was physically right for that contest, rather than Laura B or John.
John got screwed. That challenge was designed for a woman, not a man.
Part of the problem with Tyson (besides his behavior overall) is he is just really awful to have to look at. Face is wrecked and his body is weird (like a pear)
I feel like Tyson wasn't this hard to look at a few years ago.
I found Laura Morett's Twitter, and someone tweeted her asking if it's true that she and her daughter are anti-gay. Her response?
"I love people, not their actions/lifestyle, not my job to condemn.:)"
"cieraeastin don't need to show or prove anything, it's not about how we vote, it's about how we love!!!"
So not cool.
How was it that Tyson was able to sneak away and spend time alone searching for and finding the idol? That was a little weird.
Challenges favour a different person every time. The challenges are pre-planned and final challenges are almost always endurance. The challenge also didn't favour Laura B (who was actually pretty good at challenges) but no one complains.
[R109] I mentioned Laura B and John.
It's one thing for challenges to favor a particular type of person during the final challenges leading to the end of the season, quite another in this final elimination at Redemption Island.
Fabio would have given Laura M a run, so it is not just women; it's a particular body type.
What was the point of John winning all those duels when the final duel is a pole-smoking challenge that is physically impossible for him to win?? He should have just quit a long time ago and let his wife win the duels. At least Candance would have stood a chance at the pole.
Wow, Tina is a nasty grudge-holding bitch! "You just lost 5 votes! We will never vote for you!!!"
Am I the only one who's glad Tyson and Gervase came out on top and prevailed? It was the outsiders and underdogs triumphing against the cocky alphas. It would have been boring the other way around.
So now that Vytus is single again, would he join the singles team?
If Vytas is smart, he would play this up now and quickly rejoin the guys ... he could go stealth with his 'revenge is mine' plan and instead start verbally boasting about how he kicked Aras ass in this game and he's happy he got further than him this season and Aras was cocky,, blah, blah, blah ...
Get the target on Tina and Katie and then start an individual immunity win run.
Are we really supposed to believe that Tyson snuck away and conveniently found the idol? That shit is always so contrived.
Tyson is not stupid. The only thing convenient about him finding the idol was the willingness of Caleb to tell him the clues. He had two very strong clues which he put together and determined where to look. You don't know how long it took him, but it probably took quite a while. Do you expect his entire hunt to be shown? Because it was edited down to a couple of minutes is not a reason to believe he strolled out there and just picked it up.
Why on earth wouldn't Caleb go looking for the idol?
Please don't start the underdog vs. cool kids nonsense,r113. Tyson and Gervase have been in strong alliances through the game, and went to tribal council only once before the merge. Tyson has been pretty cocky all through this season. As for Gervase, have you forgotten how he boasted when Galang managed to win the first immunity challenge, even though Gervase's bad swimming put the tribe in danger of losing? Gervase's bragging led to his niece being voted off first.
Vytas and Aras are weird and pretentious names.
People like R116 apparently don't understand that each 42 minute episode is drawn from 72 hours of real time.
Ummm R120, Aras and Vytas are traditional Lithuanian names (their ethnicity).
"Am I the only one who's glad Tyson and Gervase came out on top and prevailed? It was the outsiders and underdogs triumphing against the cocky alphas. It would have been boring the other way around."
I'd be happier about it if the people who overthrew the "alphas" were rootable. Tyson is just as, if not more, cocky than the brothers, really.
[quote]Ummm [R120], Aras and Vytas are traditional Lithuanian names (their ethnicity).
Oh, I see.
Rumor has it that Tyson gets rid of
Rumor has it that Tina gets eliminated by Tyson.
I wouldn't say "Tyson AND Gervase". It's Tyson, and for as long as it suits him, Gervase is just Tyson's puppet. In the past few episodes Gervase has been a non-entity beyond being a Tyson sycophant.
Glad to see the gross-out eating challenge making a comeback next week. I'm over this season's weekly puzzles.
This was a tough week. Two hot guys leave and the aging fraus remain. Yuck.
R128: I disagree. The core alliance is Tyson and Gervase. Gervase may not get as much screen time as Tyson, but the two are equal partners. They both need each other to keep the major alliance together.
Wonder how Laura feels watching Ciera's comments about her. Ciera mentions several times that having her mom back was bad for her game playing.
Sierra's comments are foreshadowing, R130. She's eventually going to have to take down her mother.
Tina's melt-down at Tyson is going to seal her fate. Buh-bye.
Sierra and Laura, the homophobes, had better not get the 100k (or however much it is) consolation prize. Cunts.
What have Sierra and Laura said that was homophobic?
R132, see my post at R107.
Is Caleb gay? When he talked this week, he kind of pinged to me. Hayden too. And also Tyson. My gaydar is going off on all three.
[quote]I'm sure CBS was churning out the "Brother vs Brother" finale promos before the season even started filming.
They did that because even if Aras or Vytas got voted out, they could use it for Colton and Caleb. Too bad Colton got voted out so early and now they only focus on one set of brothers.
How do you become an Alpha?
You are way off the charts, r134!
[quote]Too bad Colton got voted out so early and now they only focus on one set of brothers.
Thank GAWD for that!
I'm pretty sure this whole season has been building to an Aras vs. Vytas showdown on Redemption Island.
Hayden doesn't ping for me. Aras and Vytas do in different ways, although I'm not convinced either one is gay. I don't know about Tyson, he's so bizarre.
[quote]Is Caleb gay?
Ask his boyfriend.
[quote][R128]: I disagree. The core alliance is Tyson and Gervase. Gervase may not get as much screen time as Tyson, but the two are equal partners. They both need each other to keep the major alliance together.
I don't think anyone is equal to Tyson in a Tyson alliance.
If Gervase has had any say, in anything, it ended up on the proverbial editing room floor.
Otherwise, yes, I agree that they are the core alliance and that they, at the moment, need each other. Tyson will cut Gervase loose the instant Gervase doesn't figure into Tyson's plans for world domination.
He has a boyfriend?
Not any more, if he has any brains or self-respect.
Caleb is Colton's boyfriend. You must have missed the first few episodes.
I thought Colton was his brother. Is Aras Vitas's boyfriend or brother?
R145, you are trying far too hard, hon.
People are thinking about the jury now. If things continue to break Tyson's way, it will come down to whether he thinks Gervase
is more dangerous on the jury or as one of the Final Two/Three.
I can't stand Monica, but as it stands now, if she makes the final three, she might have a shot at winning if Tina and Katie don't realize Monica actually voted with Tyson.
It is pretty obvious to me that Tyson is getting the edit of someone who plays the game hard and well, but who falls short of winning. I also believe that we are headed for either an Aras/Vytas showdown at Redemption Island, or if Vytas is never voted out, Aras gets back into the game and he and Vytas are two of the final three.
Let me repeat what I said in my post at r119: Tyson and Gervase are NOT underdogs. The two have been in a secure position through the game, including an alliance with "cocky alpha" Aras, who Tyson and Gervase were plotting against almost as soon as the three formed that alliance with Tina and Kat. Tyson has been the cockiest player of the season.
Tyson is not an alpha and will never be an alpha.
R149 .... wasn't the returning five alliance Tyson, Gervase, Aras, Tina and MONICA ??
Tina should definitely go but I wish they'd gotten rid of Monica first. Her stretched-too-tight face grosses me out every time they cut to it.
I'm still rooting for Caleb. He seems to be flying under the radar but who knows how long that will last?
I don't see the problem with Monica's face.
Monica will go far if Tina/Aras blame Tyson for the betrayal and not her. It seems she's getting off Scotch-free.
I really wish you people would pick up a book sometime. It makes me sad to read threads like this.
Don't be ridiculous, R155. It's not an either/or situation. I read, I also watch television. I have done this for many decades and haven't experienced any ill effects from it.
You're just being a pretentious cunt. Stop it at once.
Tyson looks like a male Mamie Gummer.
Tyson always likes to show off his cock! Laura B even said in the first episode the thing she was most looking forward to being on the Favorites tribe was seeing Tyson parade his cock around!
Tyson is a Mormon who loves showing his meat. He also speaks Tagalog so I wonder if he is at an advantage after having spent 2 years in the Philippines.
No, r151, the original returning player alliance did not include Monica. Kat was in that alliance; Monica and both Lauras were on the outside. Kat was voted out in episode six because she plotted against Monica, who Tina hoped to use. After Kat was gone Monica was brought into the alliance.
I missed this People interview with Candice. She's pretty funny talking about why she didn't like Brad. He sounds like the ego from hell.
You didn't get along with Brad Culpepper. Why not?
Well, to start with, he's not an evil guy or anything. But hearing him talk is like a constant stream of consciousness. General rule of thumb; if you're talking all the time, it can become very annoying.
What did he talk about?
Himself. He'd tell his tribe that he makes seven figures by working 12 hours a week. He'd talk about his law firm pays $200,000 a month for advertising. It was all about how much he made and how successful he was.
Bad strategy. People tend to boot the rich contestants.
I thought so too. But Brad simply can't help himself. He has to talk about how successful he is. Really, he's not a mean guy, but everyone who came through Redemption Island said that he talked about himself constantly.
You and your husband were on Redemption Island, all alone. Were you happy to see Brad join you, or were you unhappy that he was ruining your paradise?
A little bit of both. I was enjoying honeymoon island with John, and then here comes Brad. So I'm happy to see him, because it meant he was voted out. But then I have to listen to him talk about himself! [Laughs] Seriously, though, I don't have hard feelings against Brad now. He was just hard to take during the game.
Did people say Aras was gay? I thought posters thought Vytas was gay.
[quote]No, [R151], the original returning player alliance did not include Monica. Kat was in that alliance; Monica and both Lauras were on the outside. Kat was voted out in episode six because she plotted against Monica, who Tina hoped to use. After Kat was gone Monica was brought into the alliance.
Boy, you are either really stupid or just didn't catch the earlier episodes because you are completely wrong. What show are you watching?!?
Tina's starting to look like Skeletor. Well, Skeletor with huge bolted-on tits, I guess.
I am watching SURVIVOR and I saw all the original episodes, r165. At one point we saw Aras, Gervase, Kat, Tina and Tyson shake hands and agree to be an alliance.
Aras specifically said that the alliance was him, Monica, Tina, Tyson and Gervase with the Laura's knowing they were on the outs and Kat thought she was in the alliance but wasn't. You clearly weren't paying attention.
I'll be gracious and admit to being corrected, r165/168. Your post jogged my memory!
I guess after seeing 'Arson' hugged up by the fire,she must have forced his hand,r162!
Sad, but it seems like the rest of this season may be quite predicable.
For the best tribal to happen this season so early (Caleb taking out Brad) is disappointing.
At this point, the only interest for me remains with Redemption Island and who manages to get back in the game (although, no doubt, they will immediately be voted back out and onto the jury.
Like I said .... predictable.
Yeah, it doesn't seem that anyone has the guts to go against Tyson and Gervase. The preview showed they're targeting Laura next week. Why, when a bunch of big guys are still around? I always hate watching the second half of the season go in a predictable order.
The two brothers looked hot on RI. I was distracted by Aras playing with his chest hair.
Todd on Dr, Phil is shocking.
Hayden is a sexy beast.
Yeah, I liked watching Aras idly playing with his chest hair while strategizing with his brother, who is honest but a prick when he said it wouldn't be OK with him if Aras went back in the game instead of him.
Any why did Vytas act out at tribal and attack Monica, among others? especially since Monica had immunity at the time.
That said, Monica is unreliable if she can't stick to a plan and votes with her emotions when someone attacks her at tribal.
At least Tina threw some punches at the tribal where they voted her out.
Disappointed that no one has made a move to vote out Tyson or Gervase. Right now, Laura/Sienna/Katie/Hayden/Caleb could vote out the two big dogs and then let the chips fall where they may. But I don't know if any have the balls to do so.
[quote]Right now, Laura/Sienna/Katie/Hayden/Caleb could vote out the two big dogs and then let the chips fall where they may.
That would be [italic]Ciera[/italic]; not Sienna.
Let's touch base on this Todd on Dr. Phil thing, give us a warning when it airs.
Caleb has the balls to take out Tyson and Gervase, look what he did to Culpepper. He's just biding his time.
Speaking of Culpepper, Jeff called Monica "Culpepper" last night. It's the first time I've ever heard him give a woman the "last name only" treatment. He must have been dreaming of Brad.
Culpeper was relatively easy to vote off compared to Tyson and Gervase. Caleb has disappeared into the background. I had forgotten he was still around.
I like the way Tina went down fighting. Tina and Kim from One World are the two greatest female winners of Survivor, in my opinion.
The fact that Laura is being targeted next probably means that Katie wins immunity again next week. As for challenges, does anyone notice that Ciera has been bad in almost every challenge of this season?
Monica was right to call Vytas a "brat" when she voted for him. I kind of hope Vytas is eliminated in the duel next week. As for Probst calling Monica "Culpepper"; I think Monica earned Probst's respect by winning an immunity.
It was good to see Tyson look nervous when he received votes at both tribal councils. Tyson is not succeeding in being low-key!
The previews are usually meant to draw people in, I will be stunned if Ciera actually casts a vote to her mother, let alone her mother being voted out.
The pecking order seems pretty obvious at this point -- Monica, Laura, Hayden, Caleb, Katie, Ciera, Gervase, Tyson
The wild card will be whoever gets back in from Redemption.
I hope it won't be that predictable, but I think they'd get rid of Monica, the wild card next and then Laura, Hayden, Caleb ... all potentially strong players. And carry along Katie and Ciera as weak competitors to a potential Final 3 jury.
The best part of this show is that everyone forgets that the people you vote onto the jury are the same ones who vote to give you a million dollars. You can smell the smoke from the burning bridges from here .... although often times if the 'leader' is smart enough to carry along two lame-os to the final 3, they sometimes earn respect for gameplay and win.
I'm surprised that Tina isn't playing that older, loving, nurturing role she played years ago when she won for JUST THOSE VERY SAME ATTRIBUTES.
Now she's kind of a bitch.
Tina has always been a bitch. She back stabbed Amber and Jerri on her first season but got a positive edit for it. This season they are showing what a hypocritical brat she can be (making her a much better character).
What's this about nude pics of Jeff? Link, please.
Miss sexy Ozzy Lusth- guess Aras will have to do for now
Oozy is a douche.
True- but still hot
So you would rather have an actively boring player that is hot than someone exciting like Parvati?
[quote]The best part of this show is that everyone forgets that the people you vote onto the jury are the same ones who vote to give you a million dollars
Tina did a fine job this week of reminding Tyson. "Here are five jury votes against you' or words to that effect.
Jeff has claimed that he never knows what goes on at camp between tribal councils. His leading questions at tribal prove otherwise, this week being a perfect example when he immediately questioned Tina about what happened back at camp after Aras was voted out.
[quote]Caleb has disappeared into the background. I had forgotten he was still around.
Exactly, R179, he's cruising under the radar. That's no guarantee that he'll make it to the end but coming from the guy who - alone - took a swing that brought down Brad at tribal, I'd say it's not exactly accidental.
[quote]So you would rather have an actively boring player that is hot than someone exciting like Parvati?
R189, I'd take a hot corpse before I'd take Parvati.
[quote]As for Probst calling Monica "Culpepper"; I think Monica earned Probst's respect by winning an immunity.
But he called her that before she won the challenge.
He called her Culpepper to let he know he fucked her husband....
I didn't watch or don't remember Tina's original season but I agree that her scrambling and fighting til the end was admirable. I hope she goes far on RIsland.
Todd's episode of Dr. Phil is supposed to air this Tuesday.
Sandra Diaz Twine is a close friend of Todd's and was in the audience. The choice to appear on Dr. Phil was apparently controversial within Todd's family, but his mother didn't know what else to do. Todd has been to rehab several times already, and has tried to detox on his own and nearly died because of it.
After the show taped Dr. Phil sent Todd to a 90 day rehab, where so far the news is good.
FYI Todd was living with Spencer Duhm from Survivor Tocantins in Florida, and moved to Utah earlier this year when the two of them broke up.
The link is a People.com article where Courtney Yates comments on Todd's drinking during a cruise they took last January. I'm guessing the breakup had already happened at that point----taking a cruise with your girlfriend is a time-honored tradition after a bad breakup.
You're right r192! I guess Probst is projecting his worship of Brad onto Monica!
Parvati is a hell of a lot better than almost any of this cast (of the returnees only Candice, Monica and Tina have delivered).
My TV says Todd is on Monday.
I think Jeff called Monica Culpepper because he knows she's in complete thrall to her husband and that she'll try her best for him and not so much for herself.
Caleb is growing cuter by the week. When will we see his personality? He isn't much of a talker.
The Laura-Ciera drama was excellent tonight.
As for Caleb, we see only the edited version...but he seems to only be around for the adventure.
I watched the Dr Phil show about Todd. I have never seen anyone who was a worse alcoholic than him. Good God, I can't believe he's still alive.
A blood alcohol of .568 ????? That's way past lethal. He was so pitiful.
I literally couldn't watch it, R201. It was too upsetting.
Why did Ciera vote for her mother? (It was a 7 to 1 vote for Laura.) Seems they had the numbers to blindside someone big but didn't do it.
How much of that Monica shit was planned? A "reward" for one winner and another person was conveniently enough to feed 7 people?
We once told a story about five loaves and two fishes...
Matthew and Mark
I get the feeling that Monica is going to win Survivor.
I know who the final three are, but I won't spoil that for you.
I can say that given the final three, I don't think the winner will be a slam dunk. In other seasons, it was pretty obvious beforehand, but I can see any one of the final three eeking out a win.
Don't tell me, r207! But, I get the feeling that Monica is one of the finalists.
Aryes is gay, right?
R209 Aras (your spelling Aryes) just got engaged to a woman, take that for what you will.
R207, I know the final three and I disagree with you. I think anyone who's a regular fan can already tell even without spoilers...
Spoil it who are the final three...
No spoilers please. That's ruined Survivor threads in the past.
No, go ahead with the spoilers, please. I enjoy them.
When I don't want spoilers, I don't read the threads about that particular program or episode. If I read the threads, I deal with the reality that there may be spoilers.
Go elsewhere, R214!
Yes, but it's not all about you. Google and get your spoilers, but please don't spoil the rest of us. This isn't a Big Brother thread.
Spoilers or not, we can all guess who the Final 2 or 3 will be. But, there's still a lot of show left, and only one jury member.
I do not know how anyone can truly guess the winner at this point in the season.
He announced today they are expecting a baby as well.
R211 I know who we all think deserves to win, but the jury is who really matters at this point. And we all know how irrational they can be...bunch of Bitter Bettys sometimes...
[quote]A "reward" for one winner and another person was conveniently enough to feed 7 people?
It probably would have been three people, as they often are.
There is usually an over-abundance of reward-food.
Remember the good ol early days of Survivor when they'd talk about getting diarrhea after a food reward?
Spoilers are easily available on the Internet, and so far accurate about those voted out pre-jury.
But, please keep them off this thread. PLEASE!
Ciera would throw her Mom under the bus for a thousand dollars.
I'd toss mine for $100.
tyson is just so frigging ugly. my eyes my eyes!
and hayden is still fugly.
glad byvas and artys are gone. annoying names those 2 have.
I haven't followed spoilers since Gabon in the fall of 2008, so I don't know who is in the final 3, but my instincts tell me that Ciera and Monica are two of the final three.
Of the ten contestants who are either in the game or at Redemption Island, the only two I have ruled out are Laura and Katie. Even if Laura makes it back into the game and reaches the finals it will be held against her that she was voted out of the game twice! As for Katie the editing made her look so foolish when Ciera outwitted her; that was the end of Katie's chances for me.
Tyson and Gervase are two who I've almost ruled out- their main story seems to be the betrayal of "King Aras". Now that Aras is out of the game Tyson and Gervase, especially the latter, seem adrift.
With each of the remaining contestants- Caleb, Ciera, Hayden, Monica, Tina, and Vytas- you could make a strong case for why he/she could win, and then why he/she won't win.
Aras and John were the only two male contestants this who I found to be consistently likeable and interesting. Most of the others have had periods of being boring or irritating or confusing. Culpepper of course, was insufferable. It has been the female contestants who have made this season watcheable.
Speaking of Aras, I seem to be in the minority because I have never belived he's gay- in either his first season or in this season. I will admit that I was rooting for Aras to be Survivor's second two-time winner! The best to Aras and his fiancee in their marriage and with their first child. No, I am not a woman!
Who was voted off?
r226=frau. So obvious.
Where is the spoiler for who is in the final three?
Come on, let us in on it.
Did Vytas get that from one of our goop threads?
Vytas is a whiny little bitch. For all his years of yoga, he's still a spoiled brat who plays the victim. No wonder he was a drug addict. He fits the stereotype. Surprised he's been clean this long, given that his personality is such as it is.
Really boring season. The challenges are the same every week and Jeff is beyond monotonous. Maybe it's time to give up on this show since all they do is bring back the same fame-whore people year after year.
Remember when they used to actually talk about the places they filmed and give a little bit of culture and history? Now it's all Jeff and stupid immunity idols and dull challenges.
Tyson was very annoying while eating all his food and tosing the bones away, while four of the others actually conpeted in the challenge. He must be likable around camp. There has to be some balance for him to make it this far.
Do you think anyone will even know that Caleb is not there?
[quote] Speaking of Aras, I seem to be in the minority because I have never belived he's gay-
Well I agree with you. I have terrible gaydar, but Aras does not seem like the type of person that would hide being gay. Let alone get married to a woman when he was gay. If he was gay he seems like he would be completely comfortable with it.
Weird fact: Aras says his name should be pronounced like Oddus not Airus. He says his father pronounces it Oddus, while his brother pronounces it Airus.
Listen to POD cast below
It appeared that there were only four places to actually compete in the challenge last night. Like they already knew that 3 people would being eating instead of competing.
No, they started out with as many places set up as there were survivors, R236.
Sierra was dumb last night. She's clearly the low man in Tyson's alliance. Once they get rid of Katie and Hayden, she's next. This was her chance to make a move, she may not get another one.
Caleb and Hayden should have gone for Gervase. He knows Tyson or Monica will beat him with the jury. It looks like Hayden tries to recruit him next week.
I will know Caleb's gone, R234. He's gotten better looking every week and he's a sweetheart. His flying-under-the-radar game took him a long way. He broke out once - to get rid of Brad Culpepper. Then he went right back to being Mr. Don't Notice Me.
I'd like to see him beat the fraus (and future voted-offs) at Redemption Island. Do they bring the winner back at the final four, making it final five? That would make sense.
I usually start watching Survivor, then bail early. This season has held my attention. Tyson is a fun "villain" - he's so open, and gleeful, about being a cunt. The relationship ties have added an interesting layer to the game.
Why was Monica barely in the show last night? Nobody even approached her when it was 3/3 and they needed a swing vote. Odd.
[quote]Tyson was very annoying while eating all his food and tosing the bones away, while four of the others actually conpeted in the challenge. He must be likable around camp. There has to be some balance for him to make it this far.
Tyson looked like a Neanderthal man throwing the chicken, which made me dislike him even more. Annoyed that he didn't get voted out, instead of Caleb. Hayden has a hot body, but I don't care for his fake teeth.
Sierra is a piece of work.
Tyson will want to take Sierra with him. She's the most disliked and unworthy of them all. He could beat her for sure. Even though she's apparently annoyed the hell out of everyone, Monica could beat Tyson seems to me.
Watching Tyson eat chicken and sausages was a profoundly irritating experience. I'm sure he was told to play it up for the cameras but he carried it too far.
Right now my Final Three includes Monica and possibly Hayden. Without an idol, Tyson is in trouble, since otherwise he's almost a certain Final Three.
While Hayden and Caleb where hatching their plan, I knew that telling Cierra would be the end of one of them. For a moment though it looked like they saved themselves by convincing Tyson that Cierra was playing them against each other, but they took that too far and made Tyson suspicious. They took it to a point where they looked and sounded desperate and Tyson sensed that.
Now with both Aras and Vytas out, we don't have to hear their "I love my brother" baloney any more. It was repeated so often by each of them every week that it came to appear that they were just trying to convince themselves of it.
I think they want to love each other, but they don't. If they did, they wouldn't need to keep singing that same old song.
[quote] my instincts tell me that Ciera and Monica are two of the final three.
Probably. Survivor has become a fundie show, and Monica and Ciera are both fundie freaks.
My brother, who is not a Survivor fan, came into the room where I was watching the show, and when he saw Tyson, said "Is that a lesbian or a transexual?!".
Well, yeah...when Tyson wears those girly ponytails.
I don't think Tyson is all that bad looking, but he's no Hayden. Christ what I would do to that kid.
[quote]I don't think Tyson is all that bad looking,
In what planet?
Ciera is one of the most profoundly irritating contestants they've ever had on this show. And I find it hard to believe that she was a teen slut and mother and then suddenly found Jesus.
Tyson is fucking ugly in any world!
When are they going to let the redemption island winner back into the game. If its Laura, that would change the alliances.
Regarding the Aras/Vytas relationship, I think their rivalry is mainly on Vytas' side. When Aras was eliminated and Vytas was talking about their relationship Aras looked as if he wishes Vytas would just get over being so envious and resentful of him.
As for Vytas, he will be remembered by Survivor fans as Aras whiny, bitchy, jealous brother. Monica was right when she called Vytas a 'brat' when she cast her vote for him.
I was explaining the Survivor contestants to my Mom last week: "Tyson is the villian you love and Ciera is the villian you hate."
Tina's son, Katie's brother was killed in an automobile crash today. I can't believe Probst didn't make some kind of announcement. Maybe next week at redemption island?
At least my burden of watching Survivor is ended with Caleb being defeated at redemption island.
The show is previously recorded. It is not live.
Perhaps next week's episode, the final Wednesday airing of 12.11.2013, will momentarily present this at, say, the close of the episode.
R254, you can't be for real. No one is that stupid.
I was more shocked he didn't mention Paul Walker's death, I am sure the cast members would want to know.
Ciera isn't a villain really and Tyson is just a boring gamebot. Almost as bad as Boston Rob this season.
I still want to see a Vytas, Aras, Hayden, Culpepper, John sausage party.
Caleb can film it for us and narrate.
Only the second time ever at tribal that they had to draw rocks when the deadlock could not be broken.
Ciera changed her vote, not because of the number 4, but because of the number 7.5 (the size of Hayden's cock that she wants so badly).
That's the real truth.
[quote] And I find it hard to believe that she was a teen slut and mother and then suddenly found Jesus.
Um, isn't that usually how it goes? Prisoners, sluts, crooks, and liars usually try to "redeem" themselves by becoming fundies. That's why I can't stand them. Hypocritical self-righteous bunch of cunts.
I hate Ciera and Hayden equally, so either of them leaving at this point would be a GOOD THING.
Tyson, you may want to climb up that tree. Not saying you'll find anything, but maybe you'll find something.
Who got voted out?
Katie, Tina's daughter.
Katie, Ciera & Tyson drew rocks.
At this point I am rooting for Monica. Everyone else is just so unlikable. Especially Gervase and the way he acted towards Hayden.
Never mind, I looked it up on Wikipedia.
After two tie votes, Katie drew the white rock and was sent to redemption.
Caleb lost the redemption island challenge and is now servicing Aras and Vytras on the jury. Sweet.
Never thought I would write this, but if Hayden is voted out I want Monica to win.
The last time I watched Survivor and there was a tie breaker (long time ago), it was a contest to see who could make a fire the fastest.
I know they have to make the show fresh, but the drawing of rocks thing was stupid.
Hayden has great tits.
I agree. I thought they'd do another fire challenge to break the tie.
That was a great episode for Hayden. Not only did he look super hot, but shook things up to the point of implosion.
I loved the way he told Tyson straight up that he was trying to get Gervais and Ciera to blindside him. Hayden's no wuss.
The footage of the scary lizard crawling around as Tyson climbed the tree gave me a nightmare last night. He does look just like a lizard.
Fun Fact: I read on Survivor Sucks that Tyson doesn't have his pants at this point. He was telling Monica that she was safe at Tribal Council and she said he should prove it by letting her wear his jeans. He did, and she took them with her to RI.
The Jury reactions were the best part of last night's show.
Rustle feathers. LOL!
Poor Tina and her family. I wish people would please wear seatbelts!
Hayden needs an upper lip implant.
I agree it was suspicious that there are 4 zillion trees on the island and Tyson finds the idol up in a branch.
The producers gave Tyson the Idol. They can't really give it to them but when you are followed by three camera men and they are all pointing a camera at a tree when you are looking for the idol...
Ciera reading the clue for everyone was ridiculous. Gervase was being an ass. Hayden should have said "yes but I won Big Brother and you won...oh wait no you didn't"
And Tyson had to climb fairly high up in the tree to find the idol. What's missing is the amount of time they searched. If it was four-five hours it made sense...30 minutes, no sense whatsoever for Tyson to find the idol so easily.
To be fair there we saw a wide shot of Hayden in the forest in front of that very tree, and the camera did fly up to that branch for a moment.
I think the Powers That Be would have wanted Hayden to get the idol first, but of course they had no idea what he would be able to pull off at TC.
Tyson is savvy enough to know about the camera trick, and of course he heard the clue.
I am too busy bending over for Culpepper's meaty cock to tell Tyson where the idol is.
Last night CBS was all encores except for an original Survivor (2.6/8). The reality competition was up 18% from last week and also, with a 20% rise over its November 27th show, hit a season viewership high with 10.59 million watching.
Survivor was the most watched show of the night with the Criminal Minds (1.7/5) and CSI (1.4/4) repeats getting 8.12 million and 8 million respectively.
I want Hayden in me quite deeply.
I thought Jeff seemed to be rooting for Hayden during the tribal council. Has he found a new guy to worship, since Culpepper is long gone?
Tyson's control-freak side really came out when he tried browbeat Ciera after Katie lost the rock-drawing tiebreaker. Better yet, it came out not just for viewers, but in front of the entire jury, so even if he does get to the end, I think he's less likely to win than someone like Gervase or Monica.
Well, I guess CBS pissing off the fans was worth it.
I didn't see it myself, but apparently during last weekend's football games CBS showed a preview that contained several spoilers, including showing Caleb sitting in the Jury, and the players drawing rocks.
This angered the longtime fans, but apparently led some casual viewers to tune it...I guess it is worth it if it extends the franchise or saves the production budget.
It's not "Show Friends"....
Gervase isn't going to win. Monica would benefit before Gervase in winning over jurors should they be too pissed at Tyson should they comprise the Final Three.
You really should watch Caleb's arrival at Ponderosa on the CBS site. You'll get serious faggy vibes from Vytas and Aras. Caleb's description of the great love he shares with Colton actually made me tear up.
And, it so happens that Tyson finds the idol...again!
Explain to me why it wouldn't be fairer for them to draw rocks to determine whose vote doesn't count rather than who should be voted out.
Pretty unfair on Katie IMO. If I was a Survivor, I wouldn't want Katie to go just yet as she is very beatable at challenges.
At this point I wish no one would win. What a group of losers.
Get in line R279, get in line!
I don't anticipate or expect Tina and Katie to be a part of the "Reunion" special.
In this week's post-show Q&A on Entertainment Weekly, Probst says that the worst case scenario would be having the hidden immunity idols remain hidden. He doesn't care who finds it just as long as somebody does.
So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if contestants are told by producers where to dig. Oh well.
The clue said (paraphrasing) "near the water well" and "up".
It's not hard to scour the trees around the water well. They didn't have to scour trees over the whole island. 't was an easy give away, I'm surprised someone didn't find it immediately.
R284, thanks, that is actually some really nice footage of him and Vytas and Aras - it would be nice to see them all get together and get to know each other better. Caleb is not really my type, but his authentic good ole boy manner (as opposed to McConnaughey's fakeness, for example) is charming, and I can't help but find him attractive despite my preference for swarthy bad boys.
r291, it's simply the fact that the only person who seems to find it is the one who needs it.
I liked both Aras and Caleb in the Ponderosa scenes. I got far more faggy vibes from Marcus and Charlie at Ponderosa several seasons ago.
Like I said, the producers manipulate the outcome of the game. Tyson needs the idol, hmm three camera men standing videoing this branch in front of me? HMMM.
Another example, Jeff has stated several times he does not know what goes on at camp, yet he knows exactly what questions to ask at tribal to push buttons. I doubt Ciera would have turned without Jeff directly pointing out she is 4th in the alliance, aiding Hayden.
Monica is a scary player to take to the final three and every one else knows it. She hasn't been her afraid to play her own game (voting for Vytas when told to vote for someone else ....), she has done well with individual immunity challenges, etc. I see them all working desperately to cut her loose at fourth.
Ciera is one to take to the end. Even before the merge, she has been useless in challenges as a team or single player. She's only made it this far because someone else always came up as a better person to vote out and she could be used as another vote.
So I would see Tyson-Ciera .........and I'm not sure of a third. Possibly depends on who (and when) the returnee from Redemption gets back into the game.
I would just laugh, laugh, laugh if Tina kicked Laura's ass and got herself back into the game and sent Laura to the jury. "Thanks for all the help, Laura !!".
I'm with you on hoping Tina beats Laura on Redemption, not that I'm a Tina fan, but because Laura has been so cocky as to decide who she should "let win" the challenges with her. Cunt.
I liked how Hayden played this week, and have often wondered why others haven't done something similar in the past. When you're on the brink of being voted out, just lay all your cards on the table, and spill everyone else's secrets. The only other thing I would have done is asked Gervase and Ciera what their speeches to the jury would be as to why to vote for them over Tyson. Because neither of them have a prayer, and I don't think it's occurred to them yet.
Caleb and Vytas did the cutest sketch based on the famous "I love your skin" boat scene from earlier in the season. Vytas seems pretty vain when it comes to his appearance and Caleb is adamant that Colton is his forever guy. They're marrying next October.
r297 he copied Caleb who told everyone at Tribal "brad wanted to vote me out so I am writing his name down..." It was a bold move that got Culpepper out of the game.
Aras and Fetus were so hot on the jury. What was that gang sign Fetus threw up when Caleb was voted out?
John Woodcock was the hottest Survivor ever. Candice is so lucky. They are like the perfect Ken and Barbie couple plus they are both doctors. Both so good looking and with a combined household income of over $500,000, they won the lottery in life.
Technically, Jay Byars is the hottest Survivor contestant ever.
I can't believe they hid the idol so high up in the tree? Did they want them to break their neck? And they knew Monica, Gervase, Katie and Caleb would never be able to climb that tree.
Plus there's a liability since in future seasons everyone will try to climb the highest tree to find the idol. Someone's going to fall.
[quote]Technically, Jay Byars is the hottest Survivor contestant ever.
And the dumbest. I prefer a real man like John Cody.
I loved when Tyson pulled the douchebag move of trying to correct Hayden's semantic error of using the word rustle instead of ruffle. Hayden's response was perfect; he swatted him away like the little gnat he is. It doesn't even matter that rustle usually applies to leaves, not feathers; then again, you could still make a strong argument that rustle is okay usage.
Tyson probably spends his life bullying people by embarrassing them through verbal games; it was nice to see Hayden call him on it, especially since Hayden's reaction was the way one would react when a 6th grader tries to correct an adult.
If somehow Hayden could make the final three, he has a good chance to win. Ciera and the returnee from RI might not get in his way. So it will come down to the challenge at F4.
Jay Byars isn't an idiot.
He just talks like one.
And Jay acts like one. He told Kim about his immunity idol and got himself voted out. He also gave up immunity for 3 chicken wings the week he got voted out.
So is next week the family visit episode or are they not having that this year? It's better not to win that challenge and piss people off by not choosing them to see their family members. Or in the case of Malcolm, choosing Lisa and Skupin's family members to come into camp to plot how to vote out Malcolm.
Gervase is completely useless and does nothing. Why was so he protesting so much when Hayden was saying Tyson was playing the best game and was going to win. Gervase was like "Eh, eh, eh, no, no, you forgot about me. I'm the best player. I'm just as good as Tyson." Is he DELUSIONAL?!?
I wish Caleb had more of a personality. It seemed all his conversations with Hayden were one-sided. Hayden did all the talking and Caleb would just go "uh huh, yeah." And it was Hayden who got Caleb voted out. If Hayden never brought up the idea of taking out Tyson, they all would have just voted out Katie that week. If Caleb never listened to Hayden's stupid plan, he wouldn't have been voted out. I wonder if Caleb blames Hayden.
And Hayden's plan got Katie voted out this week. If she didn't listen to his stupid plan, she would still be there. I wonder if Katie blames Hayden.
And Gervase is just so stupid at Tribal Council. He always says too much and the wrong things. I can't believe he counted Cierra as number 4 and when out on it by Jeff, he didn't even try to correct it. He just said "That's just how I count." How stupid is he?? He should have counted again in the other direction with Cierra as number 1 and himself as number 4.
Thank God Katie drew the white rock. It would have been a travesty to have Tyson going home that way after controlling the whole game. It's fine to be taken out by a vote because that's gameplay but to lose because of random chance is not okay. Imagine if Boston Rob or Kim Spradlin or Cockran had drawn the white rock at final 5 and went home because of random chance even though they played the best game. Eddie or Sherri would have won. It would have made their seasons a joke.
Boston Rob's "winning" season was a joke.
I don't think *anyone* really understood who was going to be drawing a rock until Jeff finally explained it all.
By that point, I think most thought that there was a one in five shot at picking the white rock (and that Hayden and Monica would pick too). Possibly even a one in six shot too and that Gervace would have to pick as well, even with individual immunity).
Who knows. Either way, I'm going to give Tyson some props there for letting it go that far at this point and going with the rock picking (especially when he has a hidden individual immunity idol again). I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd looked at his alliance and said, "Sorry, folks we've gotta agree that Monica's gotta go this time. We'll get Hayden or Katie next go around."
Ever since they picked rocks in Elizabitch's season, contestants have known what they're getting into with drawing rocks.
Tyson had huge balls to pick rocks with a 1 in 3 chance he would go home. All he had to do was vote Monica out since Hayden had nothing to lose and wasn't bulging. Hopefully Monica is grateful to Tyson and his loyalty to her.
It would have been funny if Cierra was the one who picked the white rock since she was perfectly safe until she rocked the boat and decided to make it a tie. There will be hell to pay next week when she becomes Enemy #1 to Tyson and Gervase. Hayden's target just became smaller.
It seems Hayden really likes to draw rocks. He was ready to draw rocks last time too when he wouldn't vote out Brad Culpepper. If not for Veetus who decided to break the tie, they would have drew rocks.
It was Hayden who lured Ciera away from the major alliance. Yes, it turned out badly when Katie picked the whole rock. But, the odds were on his side, with Monica and Tyson picking rocks as well. I like Caleb a lot too, Hayden not so much, but Hayden deserves credit for shaking things up. Caleb's big move came at the beginning of the show.
[quote]But, the odds were on his side, with Monica and Tyson picking rocks as well.
Monica was safe and didn't pick. There was only a 1 in 3 shot to get Tyson. Odds were not in Hayden's favor.
I like Caleb but he's the type who would never be cast on a reality show. He's too quiet, low-key, introverted, withdrawn. He would never have passed the audition process if it were not for the Blood Vs. Water twist. Same with Katie, never would have been cast. Same with Laura B. Too shy and awkward. Would never have been considered if not for Rupert.
Vytus and Cierra, on the other hand, I think would have been cast based on their own lyrics.
That was still the closest anyone has gotten to eliminating Tyson all season though. Gervace actually used his brain for once and didn't go along with Hayden, because we all know without Tyson he would be next. But him opening his mouth at tribal council and basically letting Ciera know where she stood, even after she shared the clue and told Tyson last week that Hayden and Caleb were gunning for him, was one of the dumbest moves ever.