Tax the rich and the corporations.
Cut the defense budget.
It really is that simple, R1. You too, R2.
"THREAD CLOSED" posts were once clever and unique--back in 2003. Can you not come up with something new?
Institute the line item veto combined with 1950s income tax and estate code.
Thank you, troll-dar'd racist at R4. (Oh my god - I'm one of the hall monitors with a banner, or whatever the fuck you call everyone who busts your whiny ass.)
To solve the debt non-crisis is fairly simple:
Raise the income limit on automatic, mandatory Social Security deductions.
Get rid of the Bush tax cuts.
R6 loves to be Hall Monitor and whine about the posts of others. What a lump.
stop buying shoes
Tax the churches.
Outlaw the Republican party.
Tax the stupid!
Let 'em die!
If fair wages were being paid, we would have more revenue. Rich people don't pay the taxes, the middle class does and we NEED our middle class.
Let the top 12 banks (and the Federal Reserve) fail and bankrupt.
Repudiate all federal debt.
Require a balanced budget.
No more deficit spending, no more debt.
R12, idiot at large.
Lift the cap on Social Security
Close tax loopholes
Legalize and tax marijuana nationwide- channeling money out of the black market and into the economy while choking off the Mexican cartels.
End tax exempt status for churches.
Why all this hostility towards the rich? We pay your salaries.
R12 failed Economics 101.
[quote] We pay your salaries.
not mine. and frankly, you earn over one hundred times what I do, so the pittance you drop in our buckets isn't going to hurt you ever. Pay up ten times as much and I'll speak to you. give a third of your income away and I'll respect you. otherwise you're simply thief
[quote]Pay up ten times as much and I'll speak to you.
as if I speak to the underclass
then you can march directly a la surplice, pig.
r23 must be Winona
If CEOs will not pay reasonable salaries, the guillotine is the only way to teach them. If our government will support the workers...then what is fair will come about and will turn our nation around. Blood must be spilled then the rest will do what is right.
Koch Brothers, FIRST UP!
The thing of it is, we know how to solve this problem. We did it after WWII: the 92% marginal tax rate. I'd add removing the wage cap on social security, and tax unearned income at the same rate as earned income.
what r26 said: a 92% marginal tax rate, remove the wage cap on social security, and tax unearned income at the same rate as earned income.
Tax the rich. Feed the poor
Til there are no rich no more.
You are all missing the point, and in order to explain in two sentences I have to run on and tell you that we WILL eventually simply print the money to do it, so we may as well bite the bullet and do it now.
So long as the dollar is the World Reserve Currency we will not have to do this, but it is only a matter of time before either China or the EU foolishly makes the move to replace it with their currency, whereupon we will have no choice but to print, and inflict serious damage on our economy while destroying the rest of the world.
let the underclass eat cake!!
Nationalize the federal reserve without compensation. Since the federal reserve owns about 40% of the debt, it would immediately cut it back down to the $10 trillion level.
Without taxing anybody.
Tax income over $1 million/year at 100% until the crisis is over. Build a trigger to end that tax when the books are balanced into the law.
If people don't like it they can emigrate to Monte Carlo, Bermuda or Somalia.
The rich will always be rich. They hide their money in different bank accounts and even forget how many accounts they have. We live in a society, without that society, the rich will lose their freedoms. Fair taxes and fair wages, it's a good idea for everybody.
A tax strategy on US based companies who keep billions off shore to avoid taxes.
A sliding flat scaled income tax with no deductions highest percentage on the 1% scaled down to lowest on least earners.
Eat the Rich!
Give a million dollars to one millionaire and he'll put most of that money in the bank. Spread that million out between 200 or more people and tax it. Those 200 people will buy cars, homes and all kinds of merchandize. It's very simple, when greed is not controlled, we lose everything. When Reagan was in office greed was allowed to take over and workers have been suffering and paying the price. Get rid of monopolies. Don't allow corporations to sell their products here if they refuse to make their products here...stop giving corporations the free ride. Punish them until they see the light.
Cut military spending. Legalize pot and tax it.
Institute a flat income take rate and a consumer tax. Go back to the gold standard.
I don't think we own any gold. Regan gave all of our gold away.
Thanks for sharing, Ron Paul moron @R40.
Also, thank you Robespierre @R25. That plan worked out so well for you the last time.
Penalize companies that send jobs overseas rather than reward them. More people making money means less taxes and a smaller draw on the welfare system.
Stop sending billions of our dollars overseas. Charity begins at home.
legalize pot and tax it
"The rich will always be rich."
Until they die. You can't take it with you.
Invade tax shelters like Manx, Gibraltar, Bermuda, the Caymans, Palau, Panama, and seize all the bank records, publishing to all the world who owns what.
[quote]More people making money means less taxes and a smaller draw on the welfare system.
Meant MORE taxes if people are working.
What R1 said.
Get out of wars. Implement a one child policy.
R1 had the correct answer
Step 1: Repeal the so-called Bill of "Rights," ban religion, execute all people of faith, Teabaggers, gun nuts, etc.
Step 2: Institute a minimum and maximum wage of $20 per hour, taxing all income over $25,000/year at 100%.
Step 3: Systematically execute the rich and their families, take their money and possessions and use it to pay off debts.
Step 4: Forcibly seize and nationalize all private industry from healthcare to energy to the entertainment industry. Even lemonade stands should be nationalized. Anyone who stands in our way will be executed.
Step 5: Ban heterosexual sex, institute a two-child policy and require a license to breed.
Step 6: Make military service mandatory, invade all nations where homosexuality is illegal, colonize them and do the same.
Step 7: Bring back involuntary commitment for the mentally ill. As soon as one is diagnosed with any kind of mental illness, they will be locked up for life with no contact with the outside world in order to keep them out of the gene pool.
Step 8: Amend the constitution to make it illegal to take money away from public schools.
Step 9: Make union membership and Democratic Party membership mandatory, with huge criminal penalties for violators.
Step 10: All federal funding for research to go towards cures for both AIDS and heterosexuality.
R13 and R15 and R20-
How did you graduate high school?
Are you that ignorant of supply and demand, and the effect of adding more supply (money) and how that increased supply will raise the demand (prices)???
Is that you Mr Marx?
Your advice is the logical outcome of all the "tax the rich" and "give the government MORE power" retards that have posted so I hope you are being legitimately ironic.
North Korea has the same plan in place, and see how that has worked out.
If you aren't...good God, I pray for you.
Bring back Eisenhower tax rates.
Track down off-shored companies and tax them.
Slash defense spending radically.
No upper limit for Social Security contributions.
Debt, deficit, AND Social Security problems solved forever!
You're part of the problem, R53. There is no God and you know it. Once you realize that, you will accept the fact that the State, when run by LGBT progressives, knows what's best for everyone. The world's greatest economist next to Marx, John Maynard Keynes, was gay, and he was proven right time and time again. Look at the US before the New Deal and compare it to today. Do you want to go back to a time when it was legal for companies to basically treat workers however they pleased? Do you want to go back to a time when you could be fired because of immutable characteristics? If you end up poor or hungry, do you want to go back to a time when there was no welfare, social security or food stamps?
Big government is good government. Deal with it.
Let the Jews take over the world and make anti-semites' worst nightmares come true.
Please tell me you're joking. Poking fun at the simpletons.
Most so-called "jokes" are means of reinforcing a reactionary status quo by means of ridicule, FreepeR52/R53/R57. I am being deadly serious.
All failures of government programs are due to Republican sabotage.
We should do what EVERY OTHER country in the world does, and nationalize our oil industries. Just take them over tomorrow. I'm certain the John Roberts court would find it legal. Problem solved.
R55 makes sense
O. M. F. G. OMMFGDWTF!
I just retart-rolled R55 and it really believes that shit!
Despite the failure of the USSR, the atrocities in NKorea, the fact that FUCKING TOILET PAPER is unavailable in Venezuela...it still believes in government as god.
How stupid, how irrational does someone need to be to support these policies.
R55- have you hit puberty?
The made-up "atrocities" in North Korea are dwarfed by the very real atrocities of all white gentile nations. The USSR failed because of sabotage from the West. Toilet paper is unnecessary if you just wash your ass really well in the bathtub.
When the percentage of producers becomes increasingly less than the percentage of take outs, look elsewhere and carry on.
[quote]The made-up "atrocities" in North Korea
You mean like executing people that piss The Supreme Leader?
[quote]are dwarfed by the very real atrocities of all white gentile nations.
Gentile? The USSA is a monstrous empire, and is rapidly dyng, but Gentile?
[quote]The USSR failed because of sabotage from the West.
This proves your ignorance. TPTB were PISSED at the fall of the Berlin Wall- they had to manufacture a new "Boogeyman" (Al Queda, turrurisum) to keep the sheeple in place.
[quote]Toilet paper is unnecessary if you just wash your ass really well in the bathtub.
Perfect. Wsh your own hand, asshole. I have a bidet.
I've decided that R51/55/56/58/62 is just making fun of the posters and the logical outcome of their government controlled economic and social systems.
Good job- I was shocked until I realized it was a parody of the government worshipping people on this site. Although a few people still believe that shit, most have grown up.
I knew that this thread would become troll central
1. A very, very big bake sale with Canada.
2. Check underneath all the couch cushions in America for lost change.
I can see some of y'all don't seem to what two sentences means!
R66- define "troll".
I seems that anyone who disagrees with your religion is a troll.
If not, well, I hope you are smarter than you apparently believe you are. A LOT smarter.
GO SUCK A LIBERTARIAN KOCH BROTHER DICK, R69. and grow the fuck up.
R70, put down the bottle of gin and go to bed. You are drunk posting and we can tell.
This thread certainly brought out the worst of the worst of this place.
Complete ignorance of economics by the general public is largely the reason we're in this mess. Incidentally, forget about all your idiotic "solutions." We're beyond that now.
Firing up the printing presses, see R31 , is the only way out. It will hurt, hurt more than anything in our nation's history.
R72 is a libertarian freeper troll, methinks.
Take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
No "libertarian" has ever advocated printing more money to prop up the big banks, their government masters/supplicants, or the big crony capitalist businesses that thrive due to Federal Reserve/central government largess.
Libertarians believe that lying, stealing and fraud are inherently wrong and bad for society. Period. All other beliefs (aka not subsidizing the pharmaceutical industry, stopping the pervasive spying by the NSA, ending the murderous invasions - inside and outside- the US, etc.) come from that simple premise.
So, do you think lying, stealing and attacking people is okay as long as it is disguised as "government policy"?
I'm not R73 but I'm answering anyway, R75.
The answer is YES! Yes we love lying and cheating and stealing and attacking and everything is just GREAT as long as the government is doing it. That suits us to a "t" and we think it's hot.
Now will you move on to infest and harass some other website? We are completely hopeless, useless, incapable of understanding your brilliance and will never join you in your great struggle against... um.. in your great struggle!
Also, we don't like Ayn Rand - bad writer, bad philosopher, bad neighbor, bad person. We also don't like Rand Paul or Ron Paul or any Rand/Paul combination. You won't get anywhere with us. Promise.
Please go you nasty little Gold Bug
Remove Republicans from office.
Tax corporations that move jobs overseas.
Limit CEO pay to no more than 20x the highest paid workers salary.
Return to Eisenhower tax rates. Esp tax the 1%.
Cut the NSA & Military budget.
Make College free, with mandatory grade requirements and compulsory military or community service.
A mandatory Trans-America creme brulee bakeoff with a 27 billion dollar prize.
If you ever collect benefits from the federal government (not including social security and medicare, which people pay for with their payroll tax), then you should at some point pay it back or pay it forward if you haven't prepaid it. A large percentage of the population getting something for nothing is unsustainable.
There isn't a "large percentage of the population getting something for nothing" at all.
What has happened in America, unfortunately, is that we have become a nation with too many grimly paranoid middle-class shopkeepers - sure that everyone is stealing from them. It's bizarre and unpleasant for the rest of our citizens.
Imprison CEOs who move or attempt to move jobs overseas and massive fines for the companies; imprison politicians that pass laws that encourage this. They are traitors.
Imprison any CEOs of companies that pollute the earth (and massive fines), and imprison politicians who allow this.
End trillion dollar wars.
Two sentences, R81, please try again.
Are you going to take R81's advice? The turd can't even read and understand directions.
oh, I forgot about the two sentences, R82
Return to Eisenhower tax rates, and as in the Eisenhower era, no jobs moved overseas.
No more trillion dollar wars.
R81 is not a turd! R81 is full of good ideas, that's all!
No, R81 is still a turd.
No, R81 is great. And you are not Dwight, R86. Maybe you are the turd!
I eat turds!
I love Mamie
Solve the debt crisis? Easy! Just read through all the posts on this pole. Kill all people. Side effect: PEACE ON EARTH!!!
Tax all churches, retroactively.
If you earn 90% of your revenue from American taxpayers, you pay full taxes on 90% of your revenue or you are banned from doing business here. Fuck your Double Irish and your empty office in the Caymans.
Two sentences? Screw that nonsense.
Here goes: tax all religious organizations, then try to get retroactive tax from those bastards, especially all those fucking phony 'ministries'. The TV evangelists who sell out stadiums, they all make me sick! These manipulators are basically telling pathetic people, "Give me your money and your prayers will be answered." What a load of bullshit. WHO in their right mind listens to the lies of these charlatans?
Cut the absurd defense budget.
Tax the corporations to the extent they are supposed to pay, get rid of ALL tax loopholes for corporations. Corporations are NOT individuals.
Fine ALL corporations who continue to offshore jobs. Completely END their bullshit tax loopholes.
When you hear that Verizon and GE have made BILLIONS, yet have paid ZERO taxes....and that GE paid 40 million to accountants to avoid paying any taxes....you KNOW it's time to restructure corporate taxes! CORPORATE WELFARE MUST END!
Raise the minimum wage for the working poor and restore the middle class by bringing back jobs to the US! Pretty much EVERY item sold in the US is foreign made, yet I do not hear ONE fucking politician talk about this, especially not the ReThugs!
To get the economy running again, people need to spend. They will only spend if they made more money and had more disposable income. They can only do this if they felt their jobs were secure! Otherwise if they are spending any extra cash, they now have massive credit card debt.
How the hell can the working poor spend if they need all their low minimum wages to cover their rent, food and utility bills?!! They don't have extra cash for taking their family out to movies, dinner and all the other things the middle class can afford.
too long r93...not gonna read it!!
93's can be that way sometimes.
[quote]solve the debt crisis
Don't spend more money than you make.
R93 is correct!
Require all corporations to use the same set of books for both financial accounting and taxes. Either take a crap or get off the pot: did you earn $3 million or $8 million last year? You can't have it both ways.
Tax troll EA, can you comment on my post?
r94- it's not war and peace, it's maybe a dozen sentences.
and i agree with everything you said r93. funny how NO politicians every address offshoring jobs...
Address it and say what, R100?
They aren't going to stop it and legally they can't stop it. They aren't going to bring the jobs that have already been sent overseas back to the United States and, again, legally they can't do that.
What, exactly, do you expect them to say about it?
"I'm going to propose laws to end these corporate practices! Laws that don't have a snowballs chance in hell of passing! Yay me! Yay you! Yay America!"
Even if they did that, and even if those laws passed (which they wouldn't), the Supremes would burn them to the ground in record time as unconstitutional interference with bidness.
I don't know what world some of you think you're living in, it sure isn't this one.
Unclench, r101..Figurative examples have more merit than your blowout.
That's not true R101. That's how they've maintained social control, to pretend that the power to regulate capitalism is beyond the strength of the government (oddly enough, they have no problem with China's stringent rules on moving capital, hiring local talent, sharing technology for free, etc.).
thank you, r103, we've been riding the unfettered and unregulated capitalism train for too long. government can and should maintain a framework in which businesses operate. greed needs to be checked.
The lack of economic knowledge and simplistic views of the people that advocate giving the government MORE power shocks me. 100+ years of heavy regulation, and they think more will help. Companies inside the US can't compete due to taxes, regulations, etc.- THAT'S why they move overseas.
Banks and big companies OWN the government. That is why the government never passes laws that hurt the big players. Your naive worship of government is disgusting.
Eliminate the earnings cap on Social Security taxes, adopt chained CPI, and institute single-payer healthcare for all. Stop being the World's police department.
However, not that there is no "debt crisis." The deficit has been dropping precipitously in the past few years, and interest rates are almost as low as they have ever been. If/when interest rates vigorously climb, then we might have a crisis. It's not a crisis now, by any means -- that's just a Club For Growth talking point.