Beer, coffee, baked goods...everything pumpkin. I know it's seasonal but I don't remember this 10 years ago. Has anyone else noticed? It's so clearly a concerted marketing push. Who's behind it? Pumpkin Growers of America?
Maybe it's me, but I don't find any of it appetizing. Quite the opposite. Would you drink squash-flavored beer or get a hankering for a squash cupcake?
Do any of you like pumpkin beer or coffee or pumpkin brownies or pumpkin fudge? What other pumpkin flavored crap have you encountered?
Pumpkin itself doesn't have much taste, it is the spices it typically pairs with that imparts the flavor -- cinnamon, nutmeg, etc.
I never did much like pumpkin pie, I do like pumpkin ice cream though...
I love pumpkin pie and pumpkin spice lattes and pumpkin doughnuts. But the doughnuts have to be made by a real bakery. Not Entenmanns or some other off store brand. I find pumpkin bread and muffins are dry and don't really taste that good. I have never had a pumpkin cupcake. I even tried Blue Marble pumpkin ice cream but it was just ok. Most, if not all, of these items are only offered during the fall season. You'll survive.
For the lemmings, dear.
Some marketing douchebag needed to pretend to be doing something constructive so they started a Pumpkin Spice initiative.
It is Autumn...it's pumpkin season!
Can you fix the poll, OP? I've been a hater since my first taste of pumpkin pie, so I can't vote.
Incidentally, I saw something on TV in the last day or two citing the fact that after Christmas, Halloween is the "holiday" Americans spend the most money on. Perhaps it's the Halloween promoters who are behind the October pumpkin push, which I agree did not exist to this extent ten years ago.
I can deal with pumpkin lattes a few weeks out of the year. And Whole Foods in NOLA used to sell a dynamite pumpkin bread back in the late 90s-Katrina. My sister and I had an incredible pumpkin-butternut squash bisque in Vermont a few years ago.
But for most of us deep Southernites, sweet potato is the go-to, not pumpkin. Sweet potato bread, mousse, pie, bisque--all heavenly. Plus the amazing plain sweet potato, baked in its own jacket.
For the more adventurous, the Baton Rouge-based Kleinpeter Dairy Farms makes a fantastic sweet potato pie ice cream. It's rBGH-free, made with locally-sourced products like Bergeron's pecans (from Pointe Coupee Parish).
R1 is exactly right. Nothing really tastes that much like pumpkin-- it's the cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice and cloves. (The so-called "warm spices.") You could probably substitute almost any winter squash and if you used the same spice mixture, no one would be able to tell the difference.
SNL had a funny commercial this week introducing Pumpkin Spiced Douches. The writers too recognized the saturation of pumpkin spiced products in the fall
Welcome to America, where the entire month of October has become about selling Halloween shit, until Christmas and Thanksgiving both start Nov. 1.
P.S. Valentine's day now is a month long.
Overrated and overpriced Godiva Chocolatier makes a delicious pumpkin truffle.
I haven't been a cutomer of theirs for years so I don't know if they still make them.
Thanks for the info, r1 and r10. You reminded me of when, as a child, I tasted raw pumpkin. Talk about blandsville.
In terms of coffee and beer it has less to do with pumpkin and the fact that those beverages come in a much wider variety of flavors than they once did.
[quote]Can you fix the poll, OP? I've been a hater since my first taste of pumpkin pie, so I can't vote.
Oh, sure thing, Jayden. I'll get right on that.
Of course you can't change it, OP. I posted that to tell you what a fucking idiot you are not to have included "Pumpkin is so disgusting in every way, I wouldn't eat it with your mouth" as a voting option.
The only pumpkins I like are The Smashing Pumpkins.
[quote]SNL had a funny commercial this week introducing Pumpkin Spiced Douches.
I actually enjoy all the pumpkin-flavored stuff this time of year, but that's hilarious. And who knew SNL still had it in them to be funny on occasion?
I love pumpkin bread and muffins. The pumpkin adds moisture, so I can make really good muffins with no oil or butter added. Lots of vitamins in pumpkin as well.
Because pumpkin is a kind of squash, a crazy aunt-in-the-attic kind of squash but a squash nonetheless.
I have just recently begun the long and strange journey into the wonderful world of squash.
Yellow summer squash, zucchini squash, acorn squash, spaghetti squash, butternut squash, calabaza squash, delicata squash, hubbard squash, kabocha squash, and pumpkin squash.
They are all so delicious!
Sometimes when I'm in bed at night, I think about what kind of squash I'd be if I were a squash (I think either a hubbard or acorn! I know!---I bet you were expecting me to say Calabaza! Did I surprise you?)
I would love to fill up my hot tub with warm, soft, gooey Calabaza squash innards and jump in with my favorite book and a nice Chardonnay.
I'd be a gourd. :(
SMS sells more shit
R20 started the thread looking for cities "with no negroes or Hispanics", fwiw.
That doesn't bother me as half as much as your troll-dar stalking does, r23. We are all adults here. Following this person around D.L. is going to make a difference, how? Fuck off, Chicken Little. We don't need you to protect us from the crazies. Considering what you do is CRAZY.
I blew this guy last night he load was pumpkin spice flavored...
Has Coca-Cola or Pepsi-Cola come out with a Cola flavored with Pumpkin?
I didn't stop to see who made it, R26, but I saw Pumpkin Pie Soda in a big display at the store today.
Jones Soda used to make a "Holiday Dinner" soda pack. Some of the flavors were pretty gross (Turkey and Gravy, Green Bean Casserole, Brussels Sprout) but one year they had a Pumpkin Pie flavored soda.
[quote]Considering what you do is CRAZY.
Uh, that's rich coming at the end of your unhinged diatribe.
Face it R29, only trolls use Trolldar, that is why it is so aptly named. Those who go about using it and stalk users with it are mentally ill.
That was me r25, man you were thirsty little whore.
No, hon, it's named trolldar because it's designed to root out trolls. The only people bothered by it are obvious trolls themselves. Why attack me for using a feature that is part of the design of this site? It's like calling someone a troll for using thread watcher or voting on wit and wisdom; it's a site feature that was included by design. Don't like it? Too bad. I'll keep using it until it is removed it as a feature.
"unhinged diatribe". I do not think it means what you think it means:) Struck a nerve, did I?
R33, you can Trolldar me until eternity. It doesn't bother me, probably doesn't bother anyone else. You are not a pest to me, just a mystery.
Bullshit, r32. Why would you need to troll-dar someone in an innocuous thread like this one? Because you follow that person around. If you have a beef with someone then deal with it there and then. Following them into another thread and "warning" the other posters about them is childish and stalkerish. I am not a troll. That's just the pat answer people like you give when you have been called out for your weird obsession.
it is removed it as a feature
Why be concerned with a fem like R32 who calls men "hon"? He is dismissable.
I'm now troll-daring you, R32 (as well as R29 R23 R15 and OP), and wouldn't you know it, you're the lunatic who runs around calling people "racist." Turn on your troll-dar and see this nutbag lose even more of its shit on the "Banned Words on DL" thread, folks.
You need help. I hope you can get it before you take a gun to school and start shooting your 7th grade classmates.
People who can't spell "femme" are even more dismissible, R37 (to say nothing of "dismissible").
The pumpkin spice douche commercial from SNL was spot on!
I got a pumpkin spice coffee from Starbucks and threw over half of it away.
Why would I WANT to troll-dar you, r34? If I don't agree with something you wrote I will say so. I don't need to alert anyone else that I don't agree with you. In another thread. That is what troll-dar stalking is. And more common than you would think. I just think it's childish and I always suspect the motives of the person doing it. I understand that there are people who pretend to be different people in threads. Usually the OP will post as someone who agrees with his or her POV. That is not what I'm talking about.
(to say nothing of "dismissible").
Maybe you should try to find your peculiar spelling of the word in the English online dictionary and get back to us, femboy.
It's amazing how much venom this completely innocuous gourd has dredged up.
I should start a thread on belladonna and the nightshade family.
[quotes]Face it [R29], only trolls use Trolldar, that is why it is so aptly named. Those who go about using it and stalk users with it are mentally ill.
Says someone whom troll-dar reveals to be a whiny little racist nutbag, of course.
The only pumpkin flavored stuff I like is the pumpkin pie ice cream made by a local dairy, but all their ice cream is great.
Trolldar always (predictably) sets off the trolls. I love how one of them lambasts OP for accusing others of racism in other threads. Hell-ooo? This place is overrun with racists...who are themselves trolls...pointing that out (with or without trolldar) does not make one a troll. Lashing out against trolldar and bemoaning accusations of racism is like painting "I am a troll" on your forehead.
[quote]I love how one of them lambasts OP for accusing others of racism in other threads. Hell-ooo? This place is overrun with racists.
Haha, I know. It's like lambasting somebody for mentioning that gay people post here.
What R52 said.
And, I like roasted pumpkin seeds.
what r8 and r12 said. Also, for whatever reason Halloween is the fastest-growing holiday in terms of retail spending. Much more growth opportunity here than, say, Christmas or Thanksgiving.
Surprised there are not more candy-corn and carameled-apple beers, coffees, baked goods, etc.
Starbucks uses artificial flavors in their pumpkin-flavored drinks; tastes awful. Cinnamon, ginger, cloves, and nutmeg, which we associate with pumpkin pie, actually have many health benefits.
[quote]Face it [R29], only trolls use Trolldar, that is why it is so aptly named. Those who go about using it and stalk users with it are mentally ill.
No, R30 (and etc.) I don't think that's true. When there are a bunch of freeper, racist, generally shit-stainesque posts in a thread, I'll hit trolldar just to see if they're all the same person. Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not. It doesn't preclude me from commenting on their bullthit right then and there.
When you leave a thread, troll-dar lives on. I've been surprised when posts turned up yellow in a thread where I hadn't used troll-dar. It followed the troll-dar'd poster, I hadn't (at least not intentionally).
I'm not sure why troll-dar bothers you so much. You would have gone insane in the old days of DL. Trolls and shit-stains had all their posts marked in red, calling them names, and they couldn't see it.
As for pumpkin flavored things, I'm generally against them.
R57, as an elder you deserve a dollop of respect regardless of your trollbaiting. But you have informed many of us younger people here about a day long passed when people apparently were able to attach comments to a poster's comments without that poster knowing of it.
I think that would have been hilarious and it should be brought back.
To be honest, trolldar-ing certain posts in this thread is quite eye-opening without even leaving the thread.
I don't understand how anyone can slam someone for using a feature of this website. Trolldar isn't there by accident and its use is not prohibited. The only people who freak out over it are trolls themselves.
But what does all of this have to do with pumpkin flavoring?
I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin beer, although watermelon is worse.
[quote]Cinnamon, ginger, cloves, and nutmeg, which we associate with pumpkin pie, actually have many health benefits.
True, but you'd have to ingest ridiculous amounts for them to have any discernible benefit.
[quote][R57]as an elder you deserve a dollop of respect regardless of your trollbaiting.
My aged and decrepit body thanks you, but I wasn't trollbaiting. It was just my comment in an on-going discussion of trolls and troll-dar.
It does seem to be the trollish types who get all bent out of shape at people using troll-dar.
[quote]But you have informed many of us younger people here about a day long passed when people apparently were able to attach comments to a poster's comments without that poster knowing of it.
It was the Webmaster. It was akin to the deleted posts you see occasionally now. "All posts by the piggy demented shit-stain have been removed" except the posts stayed and would be marked "piggy demented shit-stain" in red and the poster couldn't see it.
[quote]I think that would have been hilarious and it should be brought back.
It was and it should.
[quote]a day long passed
In what possible way is R57 "trollbaiting"?
Of course that accusation was tossed out by one of this threads biggest trolls...as revealed by trolldar.
Even cum tastes like pumpkin lately.
R65, give it a rest. This thread is so convoluted it has jumped its tracks. Now everyone is point fingers at the wrong people. It always gets this way.
Everyone is pointing fingers at YOU, r67, who are exactly the right(wing) person to point them at.
I generally really like pumpkin-flavored beers, but Shipyard Pumpkin Ale is an abomination; I had to pour 5.5 bottles down the sink. Consider yourselves warned.
R68 likes to pretend he is the Hall Monitor.
Yeah, you tried that "hall monitor" shit on me (not R69) in the "find me a town without any blacks or hispanics in it" thread. A real gem.
You are a fucking idiot and a whiny, self-pitying, bullshitting idiot at that.
Get the fuck off of the DL. We don't want your kind around here.
[quote][R68] likes to pretend he is the Hall Monitor.
Rrrrrrighht. Except for how I haven't actually told anybody else here what to post, or what to stop posting. That distinction would go to you ("give it a rest," etc.). I guess maybe that's your problem—you're afraid someone's trying to steal your self-appointed Hall Monitor job.
R70, you don't have to move there. If you want to live in Harlem, by all means go ahead. It is a free country.
This is why we can't have nice threads.
LOVE PUMPKIN...especially pumpkin pancakes!
I love how racist shitstain r72 is so out of touch he thinks the idea of living in Harlem is all scary and dangerous, and apparently doesn't realize plenty of white people—including DLers even—live there already.
Even my shit tastes like pumpkin.
[quote][R65], give it a rest. This thread is so convoluted it has jumped its tracks. Now everyone is point fingers at the wrong people. It always gets this way.
By: R20, R30, R34, R36, R37, R42, R48, R49, R58, R60, R67, R69 and R72
No shit. The person who has written nearly 20% of the posts in this thread, nearly all of them attacking or berating others in the thread, just told someone to "give it a rest" and complained of others threadjacking.
What causes such extreme mental illness? How can someone so delusional operate a computer?
Trolldar any one of those posts and take a stroll around DL. His output is fairly breathtaking.
R72 thinks President Clinton's offices are scary.
R77 - I trolldar'd the little shit a while ago in this thread. It really is astonishing how many *other* threads he shows up in, spreading his bile in every single one of them. I'm not even looking for him - he's just flooding every thread on the DL with his shit.
What an idiot.
Is he Roger Octopus Network, R77 R79?
I don't know, R80. He's Crazy Network, that's for sure.
He's the guy who started the "no Hispanics and Negros (sic)" thread.
Yep. He's a real piece of work.
But just to get back to the subject of the thread for a minute - I don't mind pumpkin bread and - oddly enough - it is good with chocolate chips.
I wouldn't have thought that but when I tried it - delicious.
I was just wondering about this the other night. My date ordered bread pudding. Normally I love bread pudding, but this was pumpkin spice flavored. So unnecessary. He loved it though.
Bad poll, I fucking hate pumpkin pie. Texture like something that came out of a baby diaper.
I cannot taste the difference between pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie.
Pumpkin-spice flavored anything (except pie) = Frau Food.
R85 Finally, someone who knows his shit when it comes to pumpkin pie.
I blame JK Rowling for this phenomenon
DL is pumpkin-flavored, too, now.
I have two sugar pie pumpkins that I received in my weekly produce delivery. I don't want to make any dessert item (e.g., muffins, pie) with them ... is there a good way they can be used in a low-calorie, low fat recipe? (Also have two acorn squashes, if anyone has any good suggestions for those.)
R91, this is very good -- Marlena Spieler’s Zucca Agro-Dolce (SF Chronicle, 10/25/07):
1 lb. pumpkin, peeled & cut into 1/4" thick rounds
3 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil
1/8 teaspoon cinnamon
1/8 teaspoon allspice
2 garlic cloves, chopped
1 1/2 cups diced tomatoes (if using 14oz can, include juices; if using fresh, add 1/2 cup tomato sauce)
3 tablespoons raisins
1 tablespoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon paprika (or smoked paprika)
2 tablespoons red wine vinegar
Salt and cayenne pepper (or ground chipotle) to taste
Using a large frying pan and working in batches, lightly brown the pumpkin in 2 tablespoons of the olive oil, sprinkling with a pinch of sugar, cinnamon and allspice toward the end of the browning. Remove to a plate.
Into the hot pan toss the remaining oil and garlic and cook a moment or two — just until fragrant, do not let brown.
Then quickly add the tomatoes, raisins, sugar, paprika and vinegar; simmer a few minutes to reduce the tomatoes to a thick sauce.
Return the pumpkin to the pan. Season with salt and cayenne pepper, balance the sugar and vinegar, and serve either warm or at cool room temperature.
Optional: for added texture, sprinkle with toasted slivered almonds or pine nuts.
PER SERVING: 110 calories, 1 g protein, 13 g carbohydrate, 7 g fat (1 g saturated), 0 mg cholesterol, 5 mg sodium, 2 g fiber.
R92, that sounds absolutely disgusting.
[quote]I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin beer
God me neither, I hate this time of year where every brewery has their pumpkin seasonal. It used to be only a few and now every damn craft brewery does one.
Well then, we won't invite you, R93.
I agree that R92's recipe sounds disgusting.
I don't like when pumpkin is supposed to be a "normal" (non-sweet) flavor, like pumpkin soup - who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?!?!?
Imo, pumpkin is for desserts and warm beverages, period.
A few years ago Pepsi made a "holiday spice" flavored soda. It was godawful.
Well OP, would you rather everything be boob flavored??? October is also Breast Cancer Awareness month you know....
[quote]I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin beer
I picked up a pumpkin cider at Trader Joe's to try last week. Never again.
I don't think the recipe sounds disgusting. I'm not saying I would like it, but I wouldn't reject it based on the posted recipe.
Because Rutabaga Spice doesn't have the same cache as Pumpkin Spice.
The recipe sounds okay, and i love pumpkin soup (which is no different from butternut squash soup).
[quote]I don't like when pumpkin is supposed to be a "normal" (non-sweet) flavor,
The word you are looking for is "savory," FYI.
R96 Pumpkin really isn't much different from any of the other winter squashes (acorn, butternut, etc.) or even sweet potatoes. And you use them in savory dishes, so why not pumpkin? The Italians use it in ravioli (with a delicious brown buter and sage sauce.)
lots of people must buy it or they wouldn't produce it. duh!
This time of year produces two marketing disasters, both found in grocery stores: pumpkin-flavored everything and signs that say "Fall into Savings."
I just finished baking two loaves of pumpkin bread from an Alton Brown recipe that uses raw shredded pumpkin (in lieu of canned pumpkin or cooked pumpkin purée.) I don't know how it tastes, but it made the entire house smell wonderful!
It used six cups of pumpkin (double recipe) and I still have a lot left (I had two large sugar pie pumpkins), so I think I'll make some more later this week and freeze it. Or maybe muffins!
This is a pumpkin dessert for people who don't like pumpkin pie -- it's actually quite good.
One day I was perusing the local paper and the local coffee shop had an add, "It's that time of year again. Our pumpkin coffee is back." My husband was going out and I said, "Bring me back some of their pumpkin coffees." He did and it tasted like ..... coffee. I said, "You got the wrong coffee." He said, "No, I asked for pumpkin and they filled the cup from the nozzle that said pumpkin."
So... It tasted like nothing.
The local restaurant has been making pumpkin beer for years, but I don't drink beer, so I don't know what it tastes like.
Every pumpkin coffee I've had tastes like pumpkin pie spices (cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, ginger) and nothing like pumpkin itself.
R107, dessert for people who don't like pumpkin pie is made with chocolate, fruit, or caramel, not a can of pumpkin goop and a box of cake mix.
Got my new Trader Joe's Fearless Flyer, and at least HALF the items are pumpkin-related, including (and this may carry over to more posts):
Pumpkin Cream Cheese Muffins
Pumpkin Spice Chai Latte
Pumpkin Spiced Coffee
Pumpkin Cream Cheese
Ginger Pumpkin Mini Mouthfuls
Mini Pumpkin Pies
Pumpkin Bread Pudding
Pumpkin Ice Cream
Pumpkin Pie Mochi Ice Cream
Gluten-Free Pumpkin Pancake Mix
Organic Pumpkin Toaster Pastries
Pecan Pumpkin Oatmeal
Pumpkin Bar Baking Mix
Pumpkin Cornbread Mix
Pumpkin Cranberry Scone Mix
Pumpkin Pancake Mix
Pumpkin Pie Spice
Toasted Pumpkin Seed Oil
This Pumpkin Walks Into a Bar
Cut Sugar Pumpkin
Mini Decorative Pumpkins
Non-fat Greek Pumpkin Yogurt
Pumpkin Rolls w/Icing
Chocolate Salted Pumpkin Caramels
Pumpkin Cranberry Pita Crisps
Pumpkin Cranberry Crisps
Pumpkin Joe Joe's
Pumpkin Scone Cookies
Pumpkin Spiced Pumpkin Seeds
Pumpkin Body Butter
KBC Pumpkin Ale
It is vulgar and speaks directly to the childishness of American adults.
Childish? Hardly. Its a very successful marketing campaign.
Does anyone actually make anything with real pumpkins? You know, from the fields.
I could not vote. Pumpkin pie is gross, too.
The price tag on pumpkin flavored beer is laughable. Capitalism at it's most raw. $44 for a case of pumpkin spice rare ale? Yeah, enjoy that and pretend you're not just being a hipster.
"...the study in question – conducted by the Smell and Taste Research Foundation in Chicago – discovered only that ‘in those with a normal olfactory ability, a variety of odours can increase penile blood-flow’. These odours included pumpkin pie, liquorice, doughnuts and lavender, and various combinations of these, as well as oriental spice and cola. The most effective were a lavender/ pumpkin pie mixture, a doughnut/ black liquorice mixture and a pumpkin pie/doughnut mixture –"
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Because Rutabaga Spice doesn't have the same cache as Pumpkin Spice.
by: Anonymous reply 101 10/29/2013 @ 10:27PM
Oh, dear. Perhaps you meant cachet?:
Cache vs. cachet
A cache is (1) a hiding place used for storing provisions or valuables, or (2) a concealed collection of valuable things. The word also functions as a verb meaning to hide or store in a cache. Cachet refers to (1) a mark or indication of superior status, or (2) prestige. The word is is usually a mass noun (meaning it is treated as a quantity and can’t be pluralized), but it’s a count noun in some rarer senses.
It was the single largest cache of prehistoric watercraft ever discovered. [Wall Street Journal]
It might not have the cachet of Tuscany, but that may be why this region along the Adriatic is still able to offer wines at bargain deals. [Edmonton Journal]
After the bomber detonated his cache of explosives, two other militants stormed inside the hotel. [Scotsman]
Nordic crime fiction carries a more respectable cachet – justifiably or otherwise – than similar genre fiction produced in Britain or the US. [Independent]
The explosive detection dogs are the best way of detecting improvised explosive devices and Taliban weapons caches. [Canberra Times]
Beijing would love to wield the cachet that American culture commands, but experts say it can’t as long as its authoritarian leaders call the shots. [Los Angeles Times]
R119, I feel really, really sorry for you. Do you know where your life went wrong?
True, r1, which is why one can make a tasty sweet potato pie, too---it's the spices.
Pumpkins are not 100% sugar like everything pumpkin flavored.
Trader Joe's turns into pumpkin central this time of year, and all the yuppie parents go cray cray.
It infuriates the shit out of me.
Very few things have any actual pumpkin in them. The rage is 'pumpkin spice' which is just spice, save when it is paired with pumpkin.
When I worked at Dalton's Books on 5th Av many years ago there was a candy/icecream store in the 666 arcade. It was there that I discovered pumpkin ice cream when they would have it at Thanksgiving time. It was so delicious I haven't had any that good since. And their old fashioned vanilla malted milks were to die for.
All of the pumpkins grown in the fields in America -- are they all for halloween decoration or are any of them actually grown for food?
Pfft. If we don't have pumpkin patches, then how does the Great Pumpkin come to town?!?
Checkmate, pumpkin skeptic!
r126 Pumpkins grown for carving don't taste great but we've always eaten the seeds from them, they do grow smaller pumpkins for eating.
Pumpkin is fall's candy cane. Back in the '70s I recall my mother buying apple and pumpkin ice creams that were seasonal in the fall. That was the only thing that was flavored for a season.
Good thing there isn't a particular flavor associated with Easter.
I think all the pumpkin FLAVORED stuff is stupid, for sure. However, I don't include pumpkin bread in that category, not because I like it (although I do if it's made well) but because it isn't really part of the trend. People have been making it at home for ages. It's like banana bread or zucchini bread. People make those partly because they have too much zucchini or over-ripe bananas, maybe the same thing happens if you grow pumpkins?