Golden opportunity #5,607,000 goes down in flames. When should we expect Golden Opportunity #5,607,001 to be graciously handed to this lovely and eminently talented creature?
Featuring... Tig Notaro!
OP, ironically, the pilot was pulled due to real focus group opinion. Despite its "put pilot" status the rabid focus group response forced the hand of NBC. I don't believe one person in any of the groups had anything positive to say.
R2- Focus group response to Notaro and a Harvey Wittels was particularly strong. In my years of doing this, I've never seen such a visceral loathing for supporting actors.
I thought Tig was very funny.
I can totally see why a focus group would hate this show, though.
Give us more details! Love this stuff..
Why hasn't Tig Notaro been cast as Adam Scott's sister in anything?
Well, I enjoyed it very much
It's amazes me how many chances this woman has gotten considering how unfunny she is. They tried hard to make her happen for over 10 years.
R4 What is linked isn't the version they saw. A scene where Tig Notaro passed gas and talked about dental dams seemed to have been cut.Too edgy, I'm guessing. NBC had to pay a large fine to Silverman and Ron Howard to pull this.
This was awful. OP is SS trying to get the public to support this stinker.
The material aside, here is my problem with Sarah Silverman when she tries to go mainstream:
That squeaky, girly voice only works as gimmick in her stand-up because it contrasts with the dirty/nasty/mean things she is saying. But when she is TRYING to be cute and girly, it gets really cloying.
I just don't like grown woman who talk like 8 year-olds. They sound like molestation victims.
Also, the snarkiness and neurosis belongs to a twenty-something. She's well over 40.
She should write for others. Her old stuff might sound better coming out of the mouths of a sitcom starlets.
[quote]Also, the snarkiness and neurosis belongs to a twenty-something]
r7, so true.
She'll end up playing the foul-mouthed granny on some sit-com twenty years from now.
the pilot was awful. a bunch of talentless shmucks running around aimlessly.
these are the scary stalkers crazy tig notaro created out of two sisters. Ian Puddick would understand. So would Francis Shivers and Melissa Balin.
The 'quirky', 'wacky' chick shtick was played out by her long ago and nobody wanted it then just as they don't want it now.
Even fucking Jimmie (the troll) Kimmel wasn't enough to make her happen.
The stupid pilot was ruined when she did the lame cutaway to the focus group.
The pilot failed because it is a piece of shit.
I don't think Sarah Silverman is anywhere near as popular as her publicists make her out to. She's supposedly "A-list." A-list? She can't even get her lousy tv pilot picked up! Some A-lister. She's a has-been. Or maybe a never was.
Jeez, don't you guys have any kids to chase off your lawns?
All the horrible "quirks" and "gimmicks" you describe are -- gasp -- elements of her personality incorporated into her stand up comedy over two decades. They are not random affectations she is throwing at the wall like some Disney machine product. Sarah is very successful, has a lot of creative integrity, is a great writer and performer, has been around the block and back again more than once, and deserves, if she is to be criticized, critics who have any fucking idea what they're talking about.
Seriously. You sound like my mom giving her opinion of a dress Michelle Obama is wearing.
I smiled all the way through that.
All the Mommiefraus want is that babyfood shit they play on the Disney channel, written in broad strokes and primary colors.
With a country spaced-out on happydrug mood stabilizers, we have to find a way for funny people to be funny outside of Must See TeeVee.
She's "been around the block again more than once", alright! She's sucked a lot of cock to get to the middle. Her career was at its apex when she was puffing Jimmy Kimmel's peter. But now she's pretty much over. Good! Her voice alone is enough to make me want to kill her.
Every media outlet wrote a piece on the release of this. Just read on Reddit that NBC released it to gauge public opinion. So much money was lost on this due to its "put pilot," status. Basically, if they pulled the plug a huge sum would have to be paid Ron and Silverman.
Ron Howard and Brian Grazer were behind it. Sarah has a lot of money and the best PR that money can buy. Also,lots of Hollywood connections. Sister is a prominent Rabbi in LA, and Nick Kroll's money and power can launch anyone. She knows how to work every angle. Awesome business woman. The Madonna of comedy.
The pilot wasn't as bad as I'd expected. I think it was Sarah's abortion tweet that sank this one for good.
yet 50 times better than Whitney, Sean Saves the World, or any other comedy the geniuses at NBC have tried to make happen over the past 15 years.
Frasier,Cheers and Seinfeld were hits. SS has been trolling message boards to make it seem as if this was too smart for the public. Sorry, it just isn't funny or smart. Fart jokes and boobies and cheesy Goldblum cameos? Whitney is awful but it doesn't pretend to be smart, at least.
Sarah Silverman needs to stick to small audiences. Those that crave potty talk form a nice niche audience.
This show was dropped due to focus group response. I wonder if they added that part as a f-u.
Sarah is despised in Great Britain. When you lose that kind of market you are in trouble. She wasn't bad in Jesus is Magic, but it's as if she didn't write those jokes. I've heard that Dave Attel wrote them for her.
The Courtney Love of comedy.
I like Sarah Silverman a lot, but this pilot was kind of lifeless. Harris Wittels is kinda cute though.
Drag Race fans will notice the guy who Sharon Needles partnered with in the makeover challenge in the focus group scene.
I wonder how her HBO special will go next month. She's been doing the same set for about twenty years now, and already shot those jokes for Jesus is Magic in 2006.
She's an acquired taste...like castor oil.
Like others, I always get the impression that whatever money this woman has, she sinks it into PR and begging connections around Los Angeles.
Even here on DL you see one, very seemingly zealous fan of hers that just seems off, suggesting someone has a motive behind pushing her around the web.
She's tried to do television, tried to make herself a YouTube and Twitter star, attempted big screen stuff... none of it was hugely successful or even moderately so unless you want to count 'Jesus is Magic'.
Being 'edgy' about Christianity can only get you so far; (it's interesting to me that she's a Jew who likes jumping on the Christian-skewering bandwagon but you've never heard her crack crass jokes about Jews or Muslims and the absurd deities they worship.).
She's just one of those people, like that sad Tig woman, who keeps trying to really 'happen' and never does, only she has enough money and/or contacts to keep it going, which is why we keep see her popping up.
R26, why is she "despised in Britain"?
R30 You are right. Sarah Silverman has invested too much in PR and not enough on her work. Tig is even worse. Her whole career is a product of PR and knowing what ass to kiss. Very cunning. Her decision to cozy up with comedian, Nick Kroll, is why she has the assets to keep up the non stop promotion we are seeing. Nick is a multi millionaire and the son of a Billionaire, Jules Kroll.
Mad money and mad connections. Kroll, Sarah, and Tig are always pushed by the same outlets. Interviewed by the same "journalists." It's fascinating.
Tig doesn't work blue. I respect that, but she needs to focus on her health, or her comedy. All this PR is not effective. It's embarrassing, imho.
Is SS from money, ie her parents have tons?
The overzealous fan thing is weird. Do Tig and Sarah really inspire such devotion?
Highly doubt it.It's them grasping for love and attention. Sad.
R20 = Tig Notaro.
I want to see Roseanne's pilot from last year, and I want to see that American AbFab pilot from a few years back.
YESSS, R36. I was hoping they'd include it as a special feature on the AbFab's 20th Anniversary Specials DVD, but no rice.
WHY HASN'T TIG NOTARO BEEN CAST AS ADAM SCOTT'S SITER ON PARKS & REC?!? The resemblance is uncanny. And makes me lose some lust for Adam Scott :(
Who the fuck is Tig Notaro, and why doesn't her/his troll DIAF? While you're at it you can take SS with you, since that appears the only we'll finally be rid of this thing.
Actually r39, that would properly be DINGF.
However, you are correct.
She's no Maria Bamford.
Tig monitors DL 24/7
[quote] All the horrible "quirks" and "gimmicks" you describe are -- gasp -- elements of her personality incorporated into her stand up comedy over two decades. They are not random affectations she is throwing at the wall like some Disney machine product.
That explains a lot. She's got a terrible personality
R 24/7 She is way too busy with a shitload of awesome projects to spend a moment here. I don't get it. DL Fave Louis CK has endorsed her. NPR has featured her work. She has now been on the cover of CURVE magazine, and the DL seems to hate her. Why? Is it butch phobia? Misogyny?
Tig recently promised to donate some proceeds from THE BENTZEN BALL to gay causes. Candace Gingrich is a fan. So is Taylor Dayne. lol.
The BENTZEN BALL is festival that Tig has curated though she had more high profile projects in the works.
Tig and other comics have compared THE BENTZEN BALL to "a camp for comedians." The comics ride around on sedgeways and have champagne brunches. How cool is that?
Before Tig, comics were isolated. She has built for them a community. A community of "misfit toys,' is how she described in a recent interview for yet another major publication.
In a Village Voice profile, Tig, has stated that she is too busy to listen to podcasts, and tv programs. Do you seriously think she has time to come here?
The pilot was a riot. If Sarah hadn't made a tweet that offended Fundies, it would have likely been a hit. In case you guys missed it - Sarah had the brass ballz to tweet about abortion. She was crucified in the MSM.
I found the scenes with Tig to be the most touching,organic, and funny. SS's mom is named Beth Ann -as is the lesbian mom- played by Tig Notaro. Tig and Sarah have developed a real special bond.
If you ever want to see these two in action, I suggest you attend their regular shows at Largo at the Coronet. It's in West Hollywood on La Cienega. AMAZING. CK is a fan.
R48 this thread is not about Maria. Please, don't hijack it.
R49, sorry about that.
"All the horrible "quirks" and "gimmicks" you describe are -- gasp -- elements of her personality incorporated into her stand up comedy over two decades."
Yes, a personality attached to yet another overly-ambitious woman. A woman who is most notable for being someone else's girlfriend.
So enough R20.
R50 We're cool. It's just that the pretty girls get all the breaks. Really edgy and awesome comics like Tig Notaro get short shrift. Sarah is pretty too but her and Tig are best friends so it's not relevant.
Maria and Natasha have to work a tenth less to get as far as tig. It's not right.
GO AWAY TIG TROLL
Please. I just know you're behind these lame SS bumps.
GET A LIFE.
[quote]R 24/7 She is way too busy with a shitload of awesome projects to spend a moment here. I don't get it. DL Fave Louis CK has endorsed her. NPR has featured her work. She has now been on the cover of CURVE magazine, and the DL seems to hate her. Why? Is it butch phobia? Misogyny?
Do you really think that Louse CK is a DL fave?
In truth, cock, ass & holes are DL faves. QUIT TROLLING OUR SITE with your megalomanic self-promotion.
Also, do you really think that just because a comedian has been on NPR that means they are any good? NRP has tons of guests every week. They have tons of air time that need to be filled. THeir reports are nice, but not all that memorable & trend setting.
Who the F reads Cuerve magazine anymore? It was ok in the 90s...perhaps necessary. But not anymore.
So you made their cover. That does not validate you as a talent. SORRY. Just look at the cover of People & National Enquirer. KK is all over those outlets. Does that means they are any good? Hell no.
If you want to be famous, fine. But go about it honestly. Don't stealth message boards to promote yourself. It will only make us hate you.
Louis CK is not a "DL Fave" (joke or not) - he is not discussed at all.
R54 and R55 - Judging by this thread, Louis CK IS very popular with at least a segment of DL posters:
Tig, that's an obscure link you posted at 57.
It was started more than a year ago, and only got 110 responses.
You are full of shit.
You're just not getting it, are you? Your tactic is backfiring.
You will be famous if you are funny. So just be funny and quit guerilla marketing yourself.
DL is too smart to fall for this BS. STOP.
How is the thread linked at R57 any more "obscure" than any other thread on DL? Like this one, for instance?
[quote]DL is too smart to fall for this BS.
Then check your trolldar. I'm not Tig - I live nowhere the USA.
I bet this has already been posted, but the woman in the focus group was Pearl from Diff'rent Strokes.
*nowhere near, sorry
She's too quirky for a broadcast network show.
"too quirky" = "not funny enough"
[quote]NPR has featured her work. She has now been on the cover of CURVE magazine, and the DL seems to hate her. Why? Is it butch phobia? Misogyny?
You're getting closer . . .
Remember when Josh Purcell kept spamming DL to get himself famous?
Tig Notato = Josh Purcell
I love it that r57 was able to bust those who said CK wasn't a fave here.Good catch!
LOL. I bet the farm that Susan 313 will get picked up and be compared to Sienfeld one day. Top shelf talent and stellar writing can be seen here. Tig's delivery is spot on. Her transition from stage to screen is impressive. If it gets picked up she is going to rock a suit. I imagine they might have a plot that centers around her cancer battle.
Harris Wittels is hot as hell. Goldblum makes it clear why he is an A-list leading man. Lost's Ken Leung is great too.
It is too damned bad that NBC didn't get it. When it goes viral they are going to boo-hoo.
R70: Are you for real?
I've got to hope you are a satire of a starry-eyed fan who doesn't get that the person she adores is a mediocre talent.
I think you tipped your hand at "stellar writing" and pretending Tig N. has any screen presence whatsoever.
R70, this is a message board. An anonymous message board.
It's not a club...nor a bar, neighborhood, coffee shop, water cooler.
DL neither hates nor loves anyone. It's not a person. It's not a democracy.
The users and content here is virtually random, literally.
Please explain why you are so invested in a failed TV pilot.
R57 didn't bust anyone. That was one old thread, and not very long. We have had longer ones on peanut butter Cheerios.
seems like there are some desperate angry shills on this thread
R57 I don't care where you are, I'd like to buy you a beer. So many haters here, huh?
Why WOULDN'T DL'ers like "Louie"? This scene alone has been linked numerous times, and not just on threads discussing "vocal fry":
Stop shilling these fifth-rate comedians that no one cares about!
Sarah Silverman is disgusting. I saw a picture of her at some public function where she was bent over, butt facing the camera, with her finger stuck in her anus. I think it was supposed to be funny. No doubt her fans saw the picture and thought "Wow! That's so edgy!She's sticking her finger in her asshole! How brilliant and original! And so HOT!"
I like Sarah. Her standup is hilarious and completely inappropriate - which I love. But that pilot was boring. I didn't even smile once.
I thought the pilot was very enjoyable and, were it developed into a series, would look forward to seeing how the characters developed.
If, as some posters suggest, this post was part of a plot to get the pilot out there and develop momentum for the series' realization, then I hope it serves its purpose.
This desperate quest for fame is fascinating. I'm starting to think that it's some drug. Tig Notaro and Sarah Silverman keep trying and trying for that high. Non stop PR campaigns. Non stop plotting to become a household name. No talent to be seen, but that shameless hunger, and a lot of money to promote any step they may take to get that fame. The shilling is not just found here.
These ladies can't rest. Sarah is a name. She failed but she got to some point where a lot of people know her name.
Notaro and her machinations are just aggressive and pathetic. I heard her on a Nerdist Podcast, and wanted to hurl. No self awareness. Insufferable. She made it seem that raw foods was enough to beat cancer. Said she loves having cancer. She is way too arrogant and unattractive to rise. Cancer gimmicks can only take one so far.
This pilot cost a fortune for NBC. It was a put pilot. The focus groups despised it. I watched it, and thought it awful, but then the standard is so low. No worries - these two will think up something new to shove on us.
R80 And, I hope to see a pig fly.
I enjoyed it. It held my interest. There is so much that is just godawful on network TV - at least this is something I would watch a few times to see where it goes.
Most stuff I don't even bother tuning in for. I was curious about the Sean Hayes and Michael J. Fox shows but thought they were just a feces fest.
How much did this pilot cost? Everyone keeps talking about how expensive it was, but no one is mentioning a number.
R85 Well, millions. Believe it or not, there was a massive bidding war on this project. And, then a sum had to be paid Ron and Sarah just to reject it. Not sure of the exact figure but I'll see what I can find out.
I suspect that the fart jokes, Sarah's controversial tweet, and the focus group response made this too dicey. It's really bad, but that hasn't stopped NBC before.
We're talking about television here.
Not literature...or fine art. Or even fine food.
All TV is disposable. I can't believe "people" here are debating the merits of a failed TV show that never made it to broadcast. There are so many other ways to spend your time...so much entertaining content available on the web, phone, tv, tablets, etc. Oh -- and books. :)
Per r70, everyday folk could not care less about a failed TV pilot. DL folks are never this positive & chipper about anything or anyone. We have epic troll wars re: Anderson Cooper and Janet Jackson.
I suspect my typing is falling on deaf ears. SS & TN are totally obsessed with trolling for fame. They will never leave us alone. :(
"she's doing great."
Her pilot bombed, so that's not exactly doing "great."
She's not as big of a "hit" as you're making her out to be.
As for her special...well, it's the same old shit. "Horrible subject matter sweetly delivered" is how one critic put on.
yes, she is doing great...at spamming the hell out of the internet to make herself "happen."
Good luck, SS. You'll be a superstar one day. Dreams do come true!!!
count on tig to win the grammy. she is heads and shoulders above bob saget and the other cancer free nominees.
30 Rock Season 5, Episode 16 titled "TGS Hates Women" featured a baby-voiced female comic named Abby. Liz/Tina Fey tries to get her to drop her baby talk.
Did anyone else read this character as a Sarah Silverman reference?
They think they're "edgy" but they're really the 2014 version of safe: ultra-crude, cynical, attacking, castrating and sleazy (women), bearded fat porn-addicted misogynists (men)...This keeps them all very, very safe. Nobody is political, they all play the right/left paradigm game (which is a construct that is outdated) and they all CARE way too fucking much about playing that KISS ASS Hollywood game. So "rebellious".