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Donna Tartt's 'The Goldfinch'

Have any of you read it yet?

Donna Tartt is the kind of writer who makes other writers, in the words of her fellow Southerner Scarlett O’Hara, pea green with envy.

Donna Tartt’s novel “The Goldfinch” is partly set in Manhattan.

She is so thoroughly well read that she is known to quote entire poems and passages from French novels at length in her slight Mississippi twang. In photos, she projects a ghostly mystery, her porcelain skin and black bob suggesting a cross between Anna Wintour and Oscar Wilde. And her self-confidence is so unshakable that it wouldn’t occur to her to fret that her novels, all three of them, only come out every decade or so.

Ms. Tartt, 49, is making a rare emergence from her writerly cocoon for the publication on Tuesday of “The Goldfinch,” perhaps the most anticipated book of the fall season, a 771-page bildungsroman that has been called dazzling, Dickensian and hypnotizing. She avoids most interviews and has zero desire to be a regular on the book-world circuit of panels, readings and award galas.

Arriving for lunch last week at a restaurant in Greenwich Village, Ms. Tartt shrugged off her tiny jacket and immediately lamented her discovery on the way over: the Barnes & Noble nearby had closed.

“I saw William S. Burroughs there once,” she said, sounding mournful, then jumped into a rat-a-tat history of the book business from before the Internet to the current age of e-books, recalling that when her first novel was published, it was typeset in the old-fashioned, pre-computerized way.

“It’s very weird,” she said. “The odd thing about it is that it’s so long between books for me that the publishing world changes completely every time I’m out, so it’s like I’ve never done it before.”

Ms. Tartt became an instant celebrity with the publication of “The Secret History,” her 1992 novel about a pack of murderous classics scholars at a private college in New England. The book has sold more than five million copies and has been translated into dozens of languages.

It was about two weeks before the publication of that novel that she became spooked by all the attention. The release was accompanied by a profile in Vanity Fair proclaiming that Ms. Tartt was “going to be famous very soon — conceivably the moment you read this.”

“I learned pretty early on that I wasn’t cut out for sort of the public, literary....” she said, her voice trailing off, and her light green eyes darting to the side. “Too much noise, too much hubbub, too much.”

To her relief, the publicity subsided, and Ms. Tartt went back to her writing, rarely granting interviews or discussing her private life. (For the record, she is unmarried, has no children, and divides her time between Manhattan and the Virginia countryside.) Ten years after “The Secret History,” Ms. Tartt and her publisher, Knopf, released “The Little Friend,” a story set in the South that received much less enthusiastic reviews but still sold briskly.

She got back to work on a new novel that had its beginnings during trips to Amsterdam more than 20 years ago. Ms. Tartt is a lifelong keeper of notebooks, and some of the earliest scenes in “The Goldfinch” were taken from notes dated 1993. “I was writing for a while not knowing what I was writing,” she said. “That’s the way it’s been with all my books. Things will come to you and you’re not going to know exactly how they fit in. You have to trust in the way they all fit together, that your subconscious knows what you’re doing.”

The book was centered on a 1654 painting by the Dutch artist Carel Fabritius — the “Goldfinch” — that Ms. Tartt, speaking with the authority of an art historian, said is the “missing link” between Rembrandt and Vermeer.

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Much of Ms. Tartt’s research and writing took place in the marble-and-wood-paneled Allen Room at the New York Public Library’s flagship building on Fifth Avenue, where she worked regularly in the mornings, writing with plain ballpoint pens in spiral-bound notebooks. She kept potential distractions to a minimum; Ms. Tartt isn’t on Twitter and said that if she uses the Internet at all, it’s usually to find a restaurant address

A trip to Las Vegas that she initially resisted — “It’s a long story,” she said — gave her the realization that much of the novel should be set there, a decision that gave the book its sweep that went beyond New York and Amsterdam.

The book, which took more than 10 years to write, is narrated by Theo Decker, a 13-year-old New York boy whose world is violently disrupted during a routine visit to the Metropolitan Museum of Art with his much-adored mother. A terrorist bomb explodes, killing Theo’s mother and other innocents, including a man who, just before dying, implores Theo to take “The Goldfinch” out of the smoking wreckage of the museum. For nearly 800 pages, the book asks deep questions: whether it is possible to be good, what part love plays in our behavior and what in life is true and lasting. Writing in The New York Times, Michiko Kakutani said that the novel “pulls together all her remarkable storytelling talents into a rapturous, symphonic whole and reminds the reader of the immersive, stay-up-all-night pleasures of reading.”

Michael Pietsch, her editor at Little, Brown & Company who is now the chief executive of Hachette Book Group, its parent company, said: “I can’t think of another writer who invents every character and every setting from so entirely within the characters and within the place. You never doubt for a second that you’re experiencing something real.”

The Dickensian sweep of “The Goldfinch” has its roots in Ms. Tartt’s childhood in Grenada, Miss., where she began writing and drawing her own books when she was 5 years old. Taking copies of National Geographic, she would cut out pictures of a zebra or a child, and write a story about the picture. “I wrote books in this way, around images,” Ms. Tartt said, something that didn’t occur to her until “The Goldfinch” — a book that surrounds an image of a luminous yellow-tinged bird — was complete. As a teenager, she worked at the local library and read nearly everything in it, devouring 19th-century novels in earnest. “I read so much Dickens when I was a kid growing up that those books are more inside me now than they are outside me,” Ms. Tartt said.

With the publication of “The Goldfinch” only days away, Ms. Tartt was getting ready, somewhat reluctantly and while fighting a cold, for all its accompaniments: a book party, a 12-city book tour that would take her from Nashville to Edinburgh. By sheer coincidence, on Tuesday, her publication date, an exhibition of paintings by Dutch masters will begin at the Frick Collection in Manhattan. “The Goldfinch” is among them. (A spokeswoman for the Frick said the exhibition was planned without knowledge of Ms. Tartt’s book.)

“My Dutch publisher called me and said, ‘You’re never going to believe this,’ ” Ms. Tartt said. “It’s really kind of strange. It was very moving to me in a weird way. Just to make sure I got the point, it wasn’t the approximate date. It was the exact date.”

by Anonymousreply 1October 25, 2013 5:01 AM

nobody?

by Anonymousreply 2October 27, 2013 5:22 PM

I am a little over a hundred pages in, and I am loving it. I've never read anything by her before, but after I finish this one I plan to read THE SECRET HISTORY.

by Anonymousreply 3October 27, 2013 5:30 PM

I just ordered it. Thanks, OP.

by Anonymousreply 4October 27, 2013 5:38 PM

I placed a hold at my library a few days ago based on a recommendation in our beloved Books thread. I am so glad I did. The list has more than doubled already. I am 118 out of 287.

by Anonymousreply 5October 27, 2013 5:54 PM

Loved Secret History, she did a great job of writing for the male narrator.

by Anonymousreply 6October 27, 2013 5:55 PM

I loved TSH. The Little Friend was ok, but a real letdown.

by Anonymousreply 7October 27, 2013 10:46 PM

I'm reading it now. It's wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 8November 26, 2013 12:42 AM

I finished it two weeks ago. It's mentioned a number of times in the "What are you reading, the sequel?" thread.

It's the best book I've read all year, maybe in a number of years.

by Anonymousreply 9November 26, 2013 12:53 AM

What's the verdict? Should I spend the money on it?

by Anonymousreply 10February 13, 2014 2:12 AM

It's modern masterpiece.

by Anonymousreply 11February 13, 2014 2:20 AM

I just got it from the library tonight and am hoping for a snowday tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 12February 13, 2014 2:23 AM

You all are so highbrow. No one is commenting on the fact that she's 49, wealthy, beautiful and unmarried?

by Anonymousreply 13February 13, 2014 3:31 AM

I was just about to, R13. She also likes to wear shirts and jackets.

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by Anonymousreply 14February 13, 2014 3:35 AM

And suits:

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by Anonymousreply 15February 13, 2014 3:36 AM

It's the best book I've read in ages.

by Anonymousreply 16February 13, 2014 3:37 AM

Seth Meyers raved about it on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 17February 13, 2014 3:38 AM

She's a real writer--extremely talented and inventive-- but she needs an editor in the worst way. I thought the book needed about 200 pages cut out of it.

by Anonymousreply 18February 13, 2014 3:45 AM

That's 200 pages I wouldn't have gotten to read, though, R18. I will say I wasn't crazy about the Nevada part, but I would much rather have read that than whatever other 200 pages I might have read had I finished The Goldfinch earlier, per your suggestion.

by Anonymousreply 19February 13, 2014 3:47 AM

Loved THE SECRET HISTORY, didn't love THE LITTLE FRIEND, but absolutely loved THE GOLDFINCH. Especially the middle section that takes place in Vegas.

And yes, the author's intellect is staggering. Genius, probably, and though I can't keep up, I love trying.

Definitely the best book I read in 2013

by Anonymousreply 20February 13, 2014 3:52 AM

I read TSH many years ago and loved it. Recently, I listened to the audio version of TSH , read by the author herself, and it was awful. Don't get me wrong, the content itself was still very strong. But she was such a stilted, effected, and just southern and female narrator, that it near about ruined the experience. I note that they got a professional reader for the audio of The Goldfinch.

by Anonymousreply 21February 13, 2014 3:55 AM

Brett Eastoj Ellis and DT were friends in college.

by Anonymousreply 22February 13, 2014 3:56 AM

I have mixed feelings about her writing. It is clever and well-crafted--almost to a point of too much self-consciousness for my taste.

Best new novel I read in the last year was James McBride's "The Good Lord Bird."

by Anonymousreply 23February 13, 2014 3:56 AM

Just finished it today. I read a lot, and it's the best book I've read since...well, The Little Friend, actually.

I hear they may make it into an HBO miniseries...I'm thinking Jennifer Connelly for Theo's mom, Mark Ruffalo for the dad, Laura Linney for Mrs. Barbour, Ed Harris for Hobie, Chloe Sevigny for Xandra.

I guess for the younger characters like Theo and Boris, they'd have to have two actors play each part since they go from 13-14 to late 20s.

by Anonymousreply 24February 13, 2014 4:50 AM

[quote]I guess for the younger characters like Theo and Boris, they'd have to have two actors play each part since they go from 13-14 to late 20s.

I pictured Liam Aiken as young Theo as I read the book, and Michiel Huisman as adult Theo, and Ezra Miller as Boris throughout.

by Anonymousreply 25February 13, 2014 4:56 AM

Haven't read this one yet, but I seem to be one of the few people who enjoyed The Little Friend much more than Secret History. It was just a better book, and I didn't feel let down by it at all. Of course maybe it's a gender thing: more relatable because I was a girl in the 70s, slightly later than the setting of the book but not that many years later. There are also some genuinely hilarious moments. She captured the frustration and boredom and terror of childhood quite well.

by Anonymousreply 26February 13, 2014 5:35 AM

R24 - I like Jennifer Connelly as the mom too. Not sure about the dad. Kirsten Dunst as Xandra.

by Anonymousreply 27February 13, 2014 5:54 AM

TSH was banalerrific.

by Anonymousreply 28February 13, 2014 5:55 AM

Gave it to my mom for Christmas and she said it was painful to read but truly beautiful. I can't wait to read it.

by Anonymousreply 29February 13, 2014 6:46 AM

I really pictured Jennifer Connelly and Laura Linney in those parts as I read it. Never really locked onto anyone for the other parts, but I did envision Ian McKellan at first, but he is maybe to frail. Firth is tall, and does quiet dithering well. I see Ruffallo playing the part very well, but I also was thinking Dennis Quaid while I was reading it--maybe because of all the DL gossip about him is close to the character!

Dunst is a good choice for Xandra too. Sevigny may be too old. Ezra Miller is a great choice for Boris. I kept picturing the long haired kid from the American version of The Inbetweeners. DL fave Ben Whishaw for grown up version of Theo?

The one character I instantly had an actor in mind; Oscar nominee John Hawkes is perfect for Boris' father.

by Anonymousreply 30February 14, 2014 7:43 PM

...mightn't she be a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 31February 14, 2014 8:54 PM

She looks like a lesbian domme to me, R31. But perhaps that's just wishful thinking on my part.

I loved the Secret History. Didn't read the Little Friend, but perhaps I'll try this one.

by Anonymousreply 32February 14, 2014 9:07 PM

I enjoyed the book very much, though it could have used a closer edit. There was a pretty hilarious Twitter feed quoting some truly bad sentences from it.

by Anonymousreply 33February 15, 2014 1:02 AM

she is adorbs.

by Anonymousreply 34February 15, 2014 1:11 PM

She and Bret Easton Ellis both went to Bennington - the model for the schools in both "The Rules of Attraction" and "The Secret History."

"Rules of Attraction" even has a line about the classics majors conducting some bizarre rituals in the woods which Tartt writes about. I'm sure it was no coincidence even though the books were published five years apart.

by Anonymousreply 35February 15, 2014 1:22 PM

she is a far, far better writer than he is.

by Anonymousreply 36February 15, 2014 3:56 PM

Excruciatingly pretentious and boring book. Starts off well. Then becomes a nightmare.

Typical Chicklit: poorly written book wonderfully hyped by the publisher.

by Anonymousreply 37February 15, 2014 4:15 PM

Like it or hate it, this book is in no way Chick Lit.

by Anonymousreply 38February 15, 2014 4:44 PM

r37 = troll.

by Anonymousreply 39February 15, 2014 7:09 PM

Going to buy this right now on amazon. Thanks for this thread OP.

I think TLF gets a raw deal. There are descriptions and scenes that have stayed with me and its several years since I read it; the river, her African American housekeeper watching her TV show, the snakes and the water tower.

It's more a mood piece and an elegy to the South of her childhood than a page turning rdrama.

by Anonymousreply 40February 15, 2014 7:18 PM

R37 - The book may be many things, but chicklit is not one of them.

by Anonymousreply 41February 15, 2014 9:56 PM

I just read this longish interview with her. She comes across as both coying, annoying, intelligent, self-absorbed and very, very complex.

???

I can't decide if I should read The Secret History or The Goldfinch first.

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by Anonymousreply 42February 16, 2014 6:37 PM

Coying?

by Anonymousreply 43February 16, 2014 6:41 PM

Sorry, coyish.

by Anonymousreply 44February 16, 2014 6:57 PM

Why not just coy?

by Anonymousreply 45February 16, 2014 7:34 PM

coying--cross between coy and cloying? That's really good actually but only if intentional.

by Anonymousreply 46February 16, 2014 7:37 PM

[quote]Why not just coy?

She seems somewhat coy.

by Anonymousreply 47February 16, 2014 7:48 PM

I'm only hearing about this writer for the first time via this and the "What are you reading?" thread.

Should I read The Secret History or The Goldfinch first?

by Anonymousreply 48February 16, 2014 7:49 PM

R42 - Read The Secret History first. It's a somewhat shorter book and a little faster paced. Both are excellent.

by Anonymousreply 49February 16, 2014 11:06 PM

I've had "The Goldfinch" for a month but just started it this weekend because of this thread.

I'm only 60 pages into it, but it's quite good.

by Anonymousreply 50February 17, 2014 3:23 AM

Her books are absorbing, but the plot of Secret History didn't have to be, and the Little Friend didn't answer whodunit, which drove me bonkers.

I remember starting a thread here after I finished LF hoping for some insight on who the killer was and I got no responses.

by Anonymousreply 51February 17, 2014 3:31 AM

I guess I should try The Little Friend again, based on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 52February 22, 2014 12:58 PM

I didn't care for Secret History, greatly enjoyed Little Friend, but just can't stick with Goldfinch for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 53February 22, 2014 1:05 PM

The Secret History isn't about the plot.

by Anonymousreply 54February 22, 2014 10:01 PM

Is she paid by the word? Some of her staging is too detailed and you lose the picture.

by Anonymousreply 55March 7, 2014 6:36 PM

Not a good writer, except by comparison to James Patterson.

by Anonymousreply 56March 7, 2014 6:40 PM

R37 is a fucking idiot. Not every book written by a woman is "chick lit." Would you classify Toni Morrison's "Beloved" as chick lit?

Does anyone know the Twitter handle of the bad passages from the book?

Xandra seems like she has the makings of a DL fave.

by Anonymousreply 57March 7, 2014 7:02 PM

"The Little Friend" was awful. Tartt NEVER REVEALS WHO THE KILLER IS. I literally threw the book across the room. Then I picked it up and left it in the laundry room in my apt building in a pile of "free stuff" in the corner.

by Anonymousreply 58March 7, 2014 7:04 PM

That's what I did at p. 50 of "Interview with the Vampire," R58. Both parts, throwing and laundry room.

by Anonymousreply 59March 7, 2014 7:07 PM

R52 here, now I'm reading it I recall why I gave up on The Little Friend. Between the death in the first chapter and the second chapter being called "The Dead Cat," I was afraid it was going to be just too Gothic for me. (Mary!)

by Anonymousreply 60April 5, 2014 7:46 PM

Chick lit doesn't win Pulitzers, darlings!

Oh, wait...

by Anonymousreply 61April 14, 2014 9:39 PM

I just started reading the book. Tartt seems in love with words for the sake of using them, not because they create a great visual or a beautiful sentence. I was taken aback by some cheap word usage in The Goldfinch. That said, I am willing to be absorbed into her world.

by Anonymousreply 62April 14, 2014 10:26 PM

R61 - Right!

by Anonymousreply 63April 14, 2014 10:28 PM

Now that she has a Pulitzer, will she come out?

by Anonymousreply 64April 15, 2014 4:58 AM

Where does she live? Does she need a girlfriend? Or a housekeeper?

by Anonymousreply 65May 25, 2014 10:51 PM

The Goldfinch would have greatly benefited by a smart editor and 200 less pages.

by Anonymousreply 66May 25, 2014 11:00 PM

Agree with R66. It just goes nowhere near the end except on and on and on. Certainly she's very talented, but she needs an editor.

by Anonymousreply 67May 25, 2014 11:05 PM

I'm a 150 pages in and so far it's been very engaging. I hope the story doesn't make some lame turn at this point (no! don't tell me!).

by Anonymousreply 68May 25, 2014 11:09 PM

You're a Goldfinch innocent r68.

See how you feel by the time the story leaves Las Vegas. It really falls apart there. It has some good spurts after that but never really fully recovers.

For me, every time Boris reappeared I knew I was in trouble.

by Anonymousreply 69May 26, 2014 2:39 AM

OK, R69. Will report back.

Is there really no gossip on Tartt?

by Anonymousreply 70May 26, 2014 4:08 AM

What a bunch of crap that review is. The book was excessively wordy. The editor could have chopped it by 1/3 and still had a good story. By no stretch of the imagination is this good literature.

by Anonymousreply 71May 26, 2014 12:34 PM

Just finished the book and really got into it. Yes, there were definitely some sections that lagged a little for me, but overall I found it to be wonderful. She really has a gift for pulling the reader into a world where they feel like a fly on the wall. Her books are total escape for me and I re-read The Secret History every couple of years and have it on my keeper shelf.

After watching The Normal Heart last night, I can see Alfred Molina as Hobie, for some reason. As Hobie is so tall, I looked up "tallest actors" on IMDB and found the following list: James Cromwell is 6' 7" (!); John Larroquette, John Lithgow, Donald Sutherland, David Morse, Stellan Skarsgård and Daniel Stern are all 6' 4". I can also see them as Hobie.

Here's a brief interview that Donna Tartt did with Charlie Rose on CBS This Morning about the book. She seems like a hoot to hang out with.

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by Anonymousreply 72May 26, 2014 6:47 PM

Morse is about the right age (maybe slightly old) for Hobie. Cromwell is ancient.

by Anonymousreply 73May 27, 2014 11:36 PM

I also heard about this book in one of the summer reading threads and finished reading it last night.

I had dreams about the book some nights, and felt depressed and sad as I followed Theo's adventures. I did not anticipate many of the twists and turns, and had to put the book down and take a walk a few times due to the intensity.

But the ending?

Meh. The last ten pages or so were so blowhardy and unsatisfying. I'm happy with the way they wrapped up the main plot points, but I don't feel resolved as far as where Theo is, or what he is doing now.

For the movie, they need to find a young Benecio Del Toro to play Boris. And Aaron Paul to play Theo. I was thinking Rachel Weicz for Theo's mom.

I saw casting rumors about Jon Hamm...god I hope not.

I googled the book's hashtag and saw that Simon Lebon was raving about it...who even knew he could read?

by Anonymousreply 74June 13, 2014 6:40 PM

Jon Hamm as what character? Theo's dad is the only one I could see working.

by Anonymousreply 75June 13, 2014 6:44 PM

[quote]And Aaron Paul to play Theo

Oh, no. I remember starting to watch Breaking Bad and thinking, who hired this one note over-actor. And, yes, I know he got awards for his acting in the show, but I thought he was so much weaker than Cranston.

[quote]See how you feel by the time the story leaves Las Vegas. It really falls apart there. It has some good spurts after that but never really fully recovers.

Strangely, I loved the Las Vegas part. I was fully immersed in the Theo-Boris pairing. It's quite amazing that she keeps the story pretty much within the walls of the house, and with just Theo and Boris and a few characters popping in every now and then.

by Anonymousreply 76June 13, 2014 6:48 PM

I didn't hear what part he was being considered for, but Theo's dad seems like the only possibility, right?

Jon Hamm playing another drunk, shitty father? That's been done to death.

Jon is too good looking for serious roles, and also too connected with Don Draper---whenever I see him on screen it is so distracting. Like in The Town, did you really believe him as an FBI agent? Please.....

by Anonymousreply 77June 13, 2014 6:51 PM

tl;dr

She sounds like a bore.m

by Anonymousreply 78June 13, 2014 6:55 PM

Really, R78. THAT'S what you have to offer to this thread? You sound like the bore.

by Anonymousreply 79June 13, 2014 6:58 PM

I just found a web article with some casting ideas...they mention Jon Hamm, too.

Wouldn't Gwenyth be pissed to be cast as Amber Heard's MOM?

ha ha ha

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by Anonymousreply 80June 13, 2014 7:07 PM

Interesting Salon article about the "disgraceful racial politics" of "The Goldfinch."

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by Anonymousreply 81June 13, 2014 7:40 PM

Oh, man, R81. There is a huge SPOILER at that link. Why not say so? Fuck you. I am half way thought the book.

by Anonymousreply 82June 13, 2014 7:50 PM

Why on Earth would you read an article about a book that you haven't finished yet?

by Anonymousreply 83June 13, 2014 7:58 PM

Sorry, R82. Like R83, it wouldn't have occurred to me to read the article if I hadn't already read the book.

by Anonymousreply 84June 13, 2014 8:00 PM

Why not, R83? It's clear from the thread that some of us are still reading the book or are thinking about reading it. It's not like a film, where you're done in two hours.

by Anonymousreply 85June 13, 2014 8:18 PM

R82, that Salon article broadcasts what you're going to read long before you get there.

You could have chosen to stop reading when you saw the article was not for those who wanted to save the big surprise moment until they read the book.

I wouldn't care but I'm sick and damn tired of you waa-waa "spoiled" morons.

If you don't want to be spoiled, stay away from threads and articles that might spoil you. It's your responsibility, not ours.

by Anonymousreply 86June 13, 2014 8:28 PM

R66 fewer. please. I hate to be fussy, but this one bothers me almost as much as "to Waldo and I"

by Anonymousreply 87June 13, 2014 9:09 PM

She's the hipster Kathryn Stockett.

by Anonymousreply 88June 13, 2014 11:49 PM

[quote]It's your responsibility, not ours.

Some people are considerate enough to announce a spoiler, some are not.

You don't set the rules around here.

by Anonymousreply 89June 13, 2014 11:55 PM

No R88

by Anonymousreply 90June 14, 2014 12:23 AM

Neither do you, R89.

If I want to spoil information, I'll do so.

The fact is that you clicked on a link and you read a fairly lengthy article to get to that spoiler that has your bowels in an uproard.

by Anonymousreply 91June 14, 2014 12:35 AM

I am about 100 pages to the finish line and I'm losing interest in the book.

Strangely, the Nevada part may have been my favorite part of the book. The way in which Theo and Boris live in total abandon was scary and painful, yet fuller of life than any other part of the book. I thought Tartt captured perfectly the mindset that doesn't recognize fear, which we have as kids, but lose as grownups.

I find Theo's romantic life is particularly uninteresting; his infatuation with Pippa (I get it, the "unrequited great love") and his proper relationship with Kitsey (the cheating was a strange turning point and quite unnecessary) don't have nearly enough friction in them.

Does anyone else think there is something odd about Theo's absence of guilt? He's a shameless liar with, apparently, only fleeting feelings of remorse. I understand that he suffers from PTSD, but this seems more of a character flaw than illness.

by Anonymousreply 92July 3, 2014 10:03 PM

The Nevada part was good,

by Anonymousreply 93July 4, 2014 5:25 AM

BIUGHT IT TODAY!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 94July 4, 2014 5:28 AM

[quote]If I want to spoil information, I'll do so.

Proud to be an asshole, eh?

by Anonymousreply 95July 4, 2014 5:32 AM

DOnna is a tart

by Anonymousreply 96July 4, 2014 5:39 AM

read it but slowly. a little by little. not as astonishing as my boyfriend said it would be but not a bad story. she takes a real long time to write her books. did anyone read the Luminaries by Eleanor Catton? Now that was a great read expect for the part where she suddenly decided she had to explain everything that had happened in the middle of the story.

by Anonymousreply 97July 4, 2014 5:51 AM

I keep trying to read this book but it just isn't drawing me in. When does it get good?

by Anonymousreply 98July 21, 2014 5:15 PM

I just finished. It's pretty good, although I don't understand how it won a Pulitzer.

The first third of the book takes place in New York and Las Vegas, and it's superb, with good characters and great descriptions of place. Unfortunately, the story moves back to Manhattan and then Amsterdam, and it gets a bit tedious and repetitious, with no interesting new characters.

A bit letdown at the end, but overall enjoyable.

by Anonymousreply 99July 21, 2014 5:29 PM

I just started it

by Anonymousreply 100July 21, 2014 5:48 PM

Why does everyone dislike 'The Little Friend' so much? It doesn't matter who killed the kid.

I loved it.

by Anonymousreply 101October 10, 2014 1:53 PM

I liked it too, I loved the vivid depiction of the old ladies.

by Anonymousreply 102October 10, 2014 1:55 PM

I thought Donna Tartt was huge tease for not revealing who the killer is. And she makes you think she will up until, literally, the last sentence.

by Anonymousreply 103October 10, 2014 1:55 PM

Yes R102! I agree!

by Anonymousreply 104October 10, 2014 3:48 PM

R56? Maybe reading's not your thing?

by Anonymousreply 105October 10, 2014 4:37 PM

I'm reading it and love it but now I'm reading there was a murder.

by Anonymousreply 106January 17, 2015 6:36 PM

I loved the book from the first page but I can't understand why Hollywood has not come up with a script. Maybe it is just too complicated? What a shame...super characters could be a great movie

by Anonymousreply 107March 7, 2016 5:49 AM

I hinted at this before here . . . I intimately knew, about ten years ago, Ms. Tartt.

by Anonymousreply 108March 7, 2016 6:02 AM

A regrettable cast and why in the world are the women getting first billing? The guys in the movie should be the stars...what the heck happened to that movie? Hollywood! Full of fools.

by Anonymousreply 109June 25, 2018 3:03 AM

What's Ms Tartt up to?

I remember R108 has some good gossip.

by Anonymousreply 110June 25, 2018 4:12 AM

Here it is:

[italic][R198] here. I don't have time to get to them all now, so I'll start with a few and be back sporadically. I also know a ton of authors and have stories about Sedaris, Palahniuk, Cormac M, Margaret Atwood, et al. If you're into writers, I'll see if I have any info.

Tom Cruise I've met several times. He's magnetic and tiny. I'm 5'8 and tower over him. I'm not sure "charismatic" is the right word, but I get the feeling I'd happily follow him down a path of ruin. Each time, he says my name several times, and it's a bit hypnotic, like "oh my god, this is Tom Cruise and he's saying my name and staring directly into my eyes." He's got that Bill Clinton factor--makes you feel like you're the only one in the room, holds your gaze, and remembers your name. There's a bright intensity to him, and a little goes a long way. Meaning, I don't think I'd like to spend an entire weekend in his presence because it would be exhausting, all that focus and intensity. There's almost a desperation about him, like he's trying REALLY hard to connect. I'm a gay woman, so perhaps not the best gauge of sexual chemistry coming from a guy, but I got ZERO sexual vibe from him. He's kind of robotic. He's an intense little beautiful robot. He looks gorgeous in person.

Hillary. Nerdy, cerebral, loves to laugh. Deeply, profoundly intelligent. Loves to talk about books and is prolific in her reading. Likes a stiff vodka soda. To me,a and to everyone with whom I've seen her interact, she's kind and gracious. Behind the scenes, she's warm and light. She goes dark in front of crowds and cameras and has stage anxiety.

Bono. Insufferable. Just insufferable. My best friend runs his nonprofit and I've been around Bono and his wife more than I'd prefer. God complex with a healthy dose of megalomania. Treats everyone like an underling there to serve him. By the way, the rumors about his wife are true.

Ellen is probably my favorite, and not in a good way. I've been around her at several private functions, fundraisers and Correspondents' Dinners. Likes to drink. And drink some more. And a little more. She gets sour and sullen. She picked a little fight with my dinner guest once, and wouldn't get off the topic until Portia made up an excuse to drag her into the other room. Her eyes constantly dart around the room, as if she's looking for someone more impressive to speak to. She seems nervous and fragile and Portia just seems like a little dog of a trophy wife following her around. I'm not one to belittle the looks of other women, but I am quite surprised by her appearance in person. Her face doesn't look at all like the one on TV. There's something fidgety and insecure about her. On one occasion, there was a STUNNING woman (my model friend) chatting up Portia and Ellen intervened immediately like a jealous housefrau. She looks and acts like a young boy. The whole "nice and gracious" seems a thin facade from what I've seen.

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by Anonymousreply 111June 25, 2018 4:24 AM

[italic][R207] again. I've been here for years (usually signing as "Femme") but the crowd turned ugly and started eating each other for awhile, so I just lurked.

Sedaris. I know both David and Hugh and have worked with David on some projects. He's darkly funny in a socially misanthropic kind of way. He doesn't like people. When he's with his sister, they speak a language no one else can understand. It's cute at first, then childish, and I get the impression there's a major case of arrested development for both. They're funny and snarky in that cold, diabolical way that goes south very quickly when unbalanced with any deftly smart humor. I don't want to say too much about Davis as he's battled some horrific personal demons and deserves some peace. He's a troubled guy, which can and does lend to great writing. I watched him down half a bottle of Dickle once at another writer's house. He was alone in the kitchen. I get the feeling he could be a seriously great (not just lightly entertaining) writer if he handled some of his family/personal shit. He's whiny and can be excruciatingly juvenile is his diatribes, which happen often.

McCarthy. Holy shit. This guy is the real deal. I met, oddly, Neil Gaiman and Cormac together at a rented house outside Las Vegas. They're friends in real life and very unexpectedly, I spent an afternoon with them. This was soon after No Country for Old Men came out (I think mid-2000's). McCarthy is very reserved, not icy but not friendly. Unassuming and just kind of "there." He had on jeans and a button-down dishrag-colored shirt. But about three hours into the meeting, I think once he thought I was "okay", he started talking about an idea he had for a book and I was astounded and mesmerized by his voice, his actions as he spoke, his physical and verbal eloquence that came tumbling out like a perfect symphony. Gaiman sat pitched forward on a sofa listening, I sat in an armchair completely enraptured, and a good hour passed before I knew it. Now and again, he sipped tea from a big blue mug. Then he was done. He dismissed himself and I didn't see him again. I've never, all these years later, seen him again although we've emailed now and again over professional projects. I will never forget every detail of him.

And yes, Bono's wife likes the ladies. They have an open marriage and it seems to suit them both quite well.

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by Anonymousreply 112June 25, 2018 4:25 AM

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Charlize. I wish I had better news to report, because, as a admirer of beautiful women, she's drop-dead gorgeous and I had high hopes. I've met her/been around her on three occasions and each was worse than the previous. First was an amfAR event and I was right next to her. A mutual acquaintance introduced us and I shook her hand, which was a limp fish. She just gave me that, "hello, you meaningless little pedestrian" half-smirk and turned away. I shared my experience with a friend and he said it was very typical of her.

Second time was a fundraiser about two years later. "We've actually met before," I said, when again introduced to her. "We had a great conversation about Cape Town. You told me all the insider places to go." That was a total lie, I was just fucking with her. She stared at me like, "Who the fuck are you?" and didn't crack a smile, just looked down at me and again, gave me that half-smirk and half-nod that you get before an eye roll. She again turned away without saying one word.

Third time. Correspondents' Dinner in DC a few years ago. I was there with a fairly famous news personality, who went up to Charlize to say hello. This time, I witnessed Charlize stare cooly at my very recognizable friend and say, "Who are you again?" My friend was gracious but turned around and said, "God, what a bitch." And then, as if on cue, Charlize looked directly at me, and gave me the same goddamn half-smirk and half-nod AND TURNED AWAY.

She's absolutely, undeniably, jaw-droppingly flawless. And somehow still an unattractive person.

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by Anonymousreply 113June 25, 2018 4:26 AM

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The Kardashians. I was in one, one-hour meeting with Mama Kris, Kim, Khloe, and the really boring one, forgetting her K name. The whole thing was a major production on their side. They had an entourage of seemingly useless "assistants" with laughable titles such as "extension technician" and "contour specialist." They were all nice and gracious, the family. Kim is itsy bitsy, almost doll-like and the way she moved almost looked painful, as if her native structure couldn't quite uphold all the new additions. Not graceful and poised, but withdrawn and soft-spoken and meek, almost as if she was afraid of her own voice. Khloe is ditzy and genuinely funny. The other one didn't add anything anything other than snide comments dripping in vocal fry.

But what struck me most was the mother's razor-sharp acumen and complete disregard of the opinions of her daughters. She's a business woman first, and mother a very far second. She talked over them, laughed at their ideas, cut them off and kept them silent for the most part. They were like little zoo animals obeying the circus ring leader. I felt sorry for them, the daughters. I had an uneasy feeling for a few days after, a kind of, "I hope those girls are all right" kind of pang. The mother comes across way better on camera.

A colleague has the full scoop on the son, and the basketball player. I can't remember all the details now, but Khloe's house essentially became a D-list drug den and the brother and basketballer holed up for days at a time on full-tilt binges. Obliterated the house, the guest house, the pool.

The boyfriend of the one was there, too. Todd? Scott? Piercing blue eyes, neon white teeth. He was on his phone texting the entire time and didn't acknowledge anyone.

Sorry, poster upthread, I have no big stories on Joan Didion. I met her after Quintana died and she was like a little wisp of a ghost, and very gracious. I didn't know Quintana personally, but friends did and it was well-known that she had a raging alcohol problem that the family still won't acknowledge.

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by Anonymousreply 114June 25, 2018 4:26 AM

Interesting tidbit about Lauer.

[italic]Good morning, DL. A poster upthread asked my profession. I spent years in the literary realm (Hi, Roman, upthread, yes, it is I) before moving west to join a big technology company and now oversee many aspects of acquisitions. My partner is a news personality, so that's how I know all the tv people. Speaking of news people, some of the most disappointing people I've met:

Matt Lauer. I've been in his presence, in a peripheral way, about half a dozen times. The guy is a slimy little lech. He's constantly looking women up and down and thinks he's far more charming than he is. He was adorable, I wouldn't say handsome, but adorable, a decade ago, and he seemed far more tolerable then. He is very impressed with himself now, and fancies himself a hard-hitting journalist, when the real journalists see liken him to the last player on the JV bench. I was at a table of people discussing Syria and Russia (with some heavy-hitter foreign policy DC types) about ten months ago, and Lauer looked like a lost puppy trying to keep up. He was desperate to inject himself into the conversation, and when he couldn't, tried to flirt with the women. It was painful. He neither liked nor respected in that world, and it's well known that he has affairs with subordinates and colleagues.

Anderson Cooper. Not "disappointed" by AC, just not terribly impressed in any way. As in, he left zero mark on me. He's very boyish and TINY in person, and has a child-like aura to him. I don't remember him adding much to any conversation, he was in the background, and laughs/giggles a lot. I remembered thinking, "You are WAAaay different in person." He doesn't have a commanding presence. My partner said he's very impersonal and isn't close to anyone professionally. Has no mentors, no champions, and is a bit of a lone wolf. He was polite and poised, but just forgettable.

Scott Simon. NPR guy. This guy LOVES to hold court. I was at a dinner party with him and no one else got a word in edgewise. He has a hot wife, forget her name, and a couple of little girls they adopted from China. Live in the Watergate. Nice enough guy, just wouldn't shut up, and didn't ask anyone at the table one question. Focus was entirely on him. Again, not "disappointed", just kind of "meh."

Ari Shapiro. COOL guy. Very, very, nice. Plays in a band in the Seattle/Portland area, joins Pink Martini onstage, I believe. Just saw him a few weeks ago. Charming, affable, intelligent, sweet, loves stupid pop culture. We downed craft beers and made fun of people. Love him.

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by Anonymousreply 115June 25, 2018 4:28 AM

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Femme here. Sorry, no info on The Hills people. (But to be fully honest, I'm not sure I know who they are.) Someone asked about Cate Blanchett and Toni Colette. I've never been around either personally, but I hear from objective sources that Toni Colette is a real sweet pea. I have no info on Kendall Jenner, either. I have, however, recently spent a small chunk of time around her father and that guy, I just feel sorry for her/him. He/she has a handler for every move s/he makes and seems completely lost.

Anyhow, Suze Orman. High-octane, frenetic, scattered nut of a woman. Innately kind and harmless, but moves and speaks like a chipmunk on speed. She needed a lot of attention, at all times, from everyone. She never remembered my name, calls everyone "sweetie" or "honey" and seems to think of one thing: money. How to make it, how to save it, how to broker smaller deals from a larger one, on and on. I ate lunch with her twice--both times she cleaned her plate--and she called the waiter over both times to ask about the charges, which was funny, as I was paying the check. She scooped it up the check both times before I grabbed it, itemized it, then handed it over for me to pay. She went everywhere with her assistant, who called/texted me constantly. CONSTANTLY. Suze would also call me either very early in the morning or very late at night, never anywhere in between. One night, at her hotel, her assistant texted me and asked me to meet Suze in her hotel room to read over something with her. When I got there, the assistant was nowhere to be seen, but Suze was there with a bottle of Champagne chilling, surrounded by stacks of paper. I said I could only stay a minute, and after I declined a drink, she abruptly dismissed me. Told me I wasn't needed and to work with her assistant going forward. I've seen her several times since and she says hello but acts like she doesn't know me.

Maddow is a wonderful woman. Just a lovable human. Sharp, astute, sensitive, an all-around sophisticated person. She DOES talk A LOT, but it's always wildly intelligent with dashes of wicked humor. Sometimes, in the middle of one of her stories that begins with a toothless man in Akron in 1978, I'm wondering, "Where the HELL is she going with this?" she suddenly and brilliantly brings the story home to present-day Trump. She's passionate and rigorous and you know you're in the presence of a rare thinker. There's nothing lazy about her. She is a definite "WOW" for me. Her partner Susan is very quiet and sweet but also cuts an impressive intellectual swath.

Michelle Obama. Witty, snarky, down-to-earth, sensible, and utterly striking in person. I always thought she was unconventionally beautiful on camera, but in person, she's like a vortex and you can't look away. Big, wide, bright personality. She's one of my favorites. I've talked with her a few times, and have seen her from afar at a few events, and she always smiles and winks and waves at me like "Hey, girl!" She did a carpool karaoke with Corden not long ago, and I think she was really herself in that. Light, fun, sweet. I have the feeling that she just "gets it."

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by Anonymousreply 116June 25, 2018 4:29 AM

[italic] A few I thought of that I think this crowd will enjoy:

Seth Meyers. Not long ago, I met Seth at a wedding in Colorado and we ended up at his table with his wife Alex (I think?). She seemed/acted quite young and couldn't keep up with his verbal ping-ponging. He's VERY funny and sweet and has killer one-liners. Politically savvy, and pretty sharp. Bad dancer in that adorable white way. He knew every word to the bad 90s hip-hop songs that came on once everyone was liquored up. He's tiny and you want to nibble on him, he's so goddamn cute. Just seems to really enjoy life. If you're around him, you're smiling. He makes you feel good.

Jimmy Fallon. I just don't get the sense that he's okay. Or, maybe "well-balanced" is more fair. He's nervous and jittery and feels like he could fold in on himself at any minute. Everything is at a crescendo at all times. I've only been around him twice, once in a group-meeting setting that turned into a late night drinking bacchanal, and once in a group early dinner that turned into a late night drinking bacchanal. Both times I excused myself before the night was over. He's very NICE, and affable, yet high-strung to a frequency you don't often experience, which I find tedious and exhausting.

Beyonce I met once because a friend of a friend was interviewing her, and I tagged along. I think, no matter the prevailing opinions, that she's a mindboggling great performer. And she's beautiful in person. But there's not much else to go with it. There's a reason her handlers don't often let her do live interviews. I expected to be gobsmacked by her, by her physical presence. I expected her to command the room like she commands the stage. But it was very low-key and I never had that "ignition" of meeting someone famous. She wasn't charismatic or warm or awful or radiant or diva-like or especially kind. She's just there in a guarded, blank, indifferent way.

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by Anonymousreply 117June 25, 2018 4:30 AM

I am not R108, btw, just thought her gossip was cool.

[italic] Huma A. She's FIERCELY loyal to Hillary, always has been. She's definitely someone you want on your side, and she's very well respected, yet quiet, in DC. She makes clever, snide, hilarious comments about Phillipe Reines, Hillary's vampiric right-hand man. Anal, organized and efficient, she's kind yet curt. Always meticulously dressed. You'd never even know she was married--never talked about, referenced, or eluded to Anthony W. Everyone expected much bigger things from Weiner, and when he never delivered, he grew resentful of Huma's place in the Clinton inner circle--a position he aspired to and never secured. When her visibility really started to heat up in the Clinton administration, that's when the dick pics started rolling out. (Anthony just seems like a thoughtless schmuck in general, even before the Carlos Danger revelations.) H loves to show photos and talk about Jordie, her son. She's publicly private but quite lovely in person, in my experience. She seems very comfortable in her role behind the scenes and to me, seems remarkably well-adjusted and normal considering she's Hillary's primary handler.

Rahm Emmanuel. The Brothers Emmanuel are pricks of the highest order. Just assholes. Mercurial and privileged and prickly, Rahm truly outdoes them all. I've seen him verbally castrate several journalists, saw him treat a waiter like gutter trash, and tell one of his aides, "It's none of your fuckin' business, I'll tell you when it's your business" when he asked what time the transpo was arriving. He's intolerable, and somewhere in the blackened cockles of my heart, I like to think the downfall of Chicago has everything to do with him.

Andrea Mitchell, many years ago, in an effort to secure a presidential interview, Andrea hid all of my partner's luggage in a hotel conference room so my partner couldn't get on Air Force One with the rest of the pool that morning, missing the interview while Andrea took it.

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by Anonymousreply 118June 25, 2018 4:35 AM

[italic]Mr. Clinton. I have been around him probably 8 times in various settings. This man has his own magnetic fields around him. I've never witnessed anything like it. "Charm" and "charisma" don't begin to explain him. You can hear panties dropping when he walks into a room. I'd always heard he has an inexplicable presence, but I wasn't prepared for the blunt thwack of "holy shit" I felt while meeting/conversing with him. After our first meeting, where he briefly met and shook my hand and we exchanged maybe 12 sentences, six months later, he remembered my full name (without a handler there to tell him, and he hadn't been prepped), he remembered where I worked, where I went to school, where I grew up, and asked how my vacation to Patagonia had been, which I'd mentioned previously. It was magic. He's so incredibly PRESENT. The guy is wickedly, incorrigibly curious and intelligent. He gives off a "enough about me, I want to know everything about YOU" vibe that is undeniably flattering, magnetic, and absurdly charming. It's as if you can feel him enter the room before you see him.

Nicest people in DC? The Bidens. Joe and Jill are stand-up, sophisticated, decent and truly kind people. Biden would be crushing Trump right now. And Dr. Jill would give Michelle a run for her money as far as likability, public speaking and outreach. I've never heard a bad word about them. If not for Beau's death, I do think we'd be looking at a Biden/Trump ticket right now. I attended a breast cancer awareness event at their home and Joe and I traded boob jokes. He started it.

The Donald. A friend's dad runs a Ferrari show in Florida every year, and I tag along with her now and again. Each time, Trump is there holding court. This was before his presidential bid, and I think the last time I saw him was 2014. My experience? Brash, boastful, funny, nice guy. Picking up kids and taking pictures with them, photo bombing people, joking around with normal people. Lots of African Americans (athletes in particular), tons of lovely gay guys--he was friendly and dare I say "normal" with everyone. Not particularly smart, and very peculiar-looking in person, but he had no trace of the circus leader we see today. Certainly wasn't unpleasant. All show, no bark, no bite back then. Just seemed like a harmless wheeler-dealer.

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by Anonymousreply 119June 25, 2018 4:36 AM

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CNN people. Candy Crowley, although no longer with CNN, is one of the smartest, funniest, crankiest women. I love her. I love her so much. When I met her, I stupidly said something like, "God, I feel like I'm meeting Robert Plant. You're never supposed to meet your idols." She said, "Well let's get to the bar and forget we met." We ignored everyone, drank Moscow Mules, she talked about her son a lot, and the pressures of being a large woman on TV, and concerts she went to in the 70's. She got my number and the next morning, I was utterly embarrassed because I must have had six drinks. Sure enough, there was a text from her a few days later and we became friends over the last four years or so. CNN kicked her to the curb when Zucker brought in the new fleet of talking head blonds.

Wolf. EXACTLY like he is on TV. Tiny little guy. Sweet, kind, but somehow totally oblivious. Someone will crack a great joke and everyone laughs while Wolf looks around like, "Huh? I, wait, what?" Every. Single. Time.

John King cheated on Dana Bash when she was pregnant with their child. He's great at what he does, but a real bastard. Loves the interns and low-level producers. Dana is a wonderfully sweet, smart, tuned-in woman.

Don Lemon is fun. He's just a warm, fun, adorable guy. You feel like you're talking to an old friend. In person, he's low-key and doesn't hog the limelight as he sometimes likes to do on air. And in person, I swear, he looks like he's 33. Perfect skin, impeccable clothes, big dimples. He's delightful.

Barbara Starr hates everyone.

Anderson I touched on in last thread.

Megyn Kelly at FOX is STUNNING. Absolutely stunning. And despite her politics, I like her. I get the feeling she's for sale, and would hop to CNN in a heartbeat if offered a better deal. Especially after the Ailes scandal, which was kept fairly quiet concerning Kelly as she's still on contract. He apparently harassed the ever-loving hell out of her.

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by Anonymousreply 120June 25, 2018 4:36 AM

Here is the Donna Tartt part:

[italic] Tartt. There's been a lot of whiskey under the bride since I first met her, but I can recite nearly every word she's ever said to me because she hangs every sentence like a piece of art.

Itty bitty physically, she's quite striking in person. Despite her tiny stature, she's enormously intimidating. She looks you directly in the eye and doesn't let go. I get the feeling she knows more about my life than I do. She's wildly eloquent and quick. In stature, she resembles a teen boy. She's a chain smoker, a devout drinker, a scathing social critic, and a writer's writer. For eighteen years, she sends me a birthday card. It always arrives the day before my birthday, and it's always handmade.

She's deeply methodical in her writing. Color-coded notecards everywhere; handwritten notes taped meticulously to pages and walls and windows; various colors of ink coordinated to match characters. Her manuscripts look like small laboratories.

She's American Gothic in every sense. Impish and spooky yet beautiful, very mysterious. She doesn't give you much, doesn't reveal much. You have to work for it. Wickedly witty, introverted yet confident, quiet yet commanding, dark and brooding yet charming in that southern, gracious way. She has a sprinting mind that outpaces everyone in the room. She has a severe style, wears mostly black, barely comes up to my chin, and has a short, sharp, staccato laugh. She doesn't care what anyone thinks. She doesn't read reviews of her work. She rarely uses the internet. Loves David Byrne and Brian Eno.

She's relentlessly erudite, magnificently armed with words and thoughts that I only wish I could create. She's FUNNY, too. Deadpan. Witheringly deft and smart, rippling with humor and portent.

She's not fond of many people, but she's true to Bret Easton E. He's a good guy, but loves to bloviate. Around Donna, he barely utters a word. Even he knows you don't attempt to race a Honda against a Bugatti.

Angelina. I have little to add here. In person, she's bird-like. Uncomfortably thin. She's soft spoken and polite. Highly composed. Her wrist bones jut out so much they're distracting, her forehead vein bulges and pulses, and she's very pale. She looks like she could crack in half in a strong breeze. She seemed pleasant and distant; I wasn't at all starstruck. I had a "god, please eat something" thought more than anything else. Sorry, I've never seen Mr. Pitt in person.

Kristin Wiig. She's, hmm, she's odd but kind of riveting in her weirdness. She's very nervous and jittery, and there's a constant neediness about her. She's very reserved and "contained" but you get the feeling there's a lot bubbling just beneath the surface, and it could all come out sideways. She's TINY. She seems shy and uncomfortable and introverted. She's perfectly polite yet seems distracted. Skittish. I like her brain, though, she's an original and intriguing thinker, and unpredictable. I like her very much, but I could easily see how she rubs people the wrong way.

Schumer. The opposite of Wiig. Very predictable. You know exactly where the joke is going, and you get there a few minutes before she does. Probably exactly what you expect. The funniest thing about her is her friend Bridget Everett, who is wildly clever and hilarious. Everyone forgets Amy is in the room when Bridget is around.

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by Anonymousreply 121June 25, 2018 4:37 AM

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The most physically attractive people? Okay, not every personality was a winner, but as far as looks only:

Charlize is flawless. Charlotte Rampling is magnificent looking. Nigella Lawson, oh my god, she is every inch a woman; I was physically ignited by her--I got sweaty and fluttery. Oddly, I sucked in a little air at the sight of Heidi Klum recently at Burning Man (I know, I know, the ignominy, but I went for a work project and it was as insufferable as I imagined it to be). I always thought of Heidi as gorgeous yet bland in that classically beautiful way, but in person, she's just stunning. And seemed fun and happy, which adds exponentially. Padma L is quite gorgeous in person, JANE FONDA is a knockout, and my dark horse was Catherine Keener. In person, she's got this confident, sharp sexiness spilling out of her that knocked me sideways. Oh, and a real force is Tilda S; you can't help but stare at her and I'm not sure it's because she's beautiful. She's strangely, inexplicably erotic. I get the feeling I'd let her bang me like a bass drum but I'm not entirely sure I'd like it.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 122June 25, 2018 4:38 AM

Um, gossip is nice but I kind of wanted more information about the movie, The Goldfinch.

by Anonymousreply 123June 25, 2018 4:38 AM

I'll just repost the last bits. I'm sure there will be Goldfinch info at some point, R123.

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Palahniuk. The guy has an encyclopedic grasp for all things obscure, bizarre, and arcane. The weirder, the better. But not weird in that skeevy, seedy way, more in the "this is one of the weirdest conversations with the weirdest people I've ever met" way. He's fun. Up for anything. And I do mean anything. He's deeply steeped in the Portland scene and hangs out with writers, artists and musicians. His place is a hodgepodge of pop culture and punk. For awhile, he was into Landmark, which eventually spawned the ending of Fight Club. He always said he went for research, which is probably true. Someone upthread mentioned Carrie Brownstein, whom I briefly met through Chuck at one of his gatherings (this was post Slater Kinney and just as Portlandia got started) and I'd have to agree with the other poster. She left me pretty cold. Not terribly friendly, but maybe I wasn't hipster enough for her. Fred Armisen hit on my friend all night after she mentioned her husband.

Bourdain. This night is sketchy for me. Late in the evening, I ended up joining friends at a Seattle restaurant owned by Mario Batali's dad. Bourdain and Mario were there and everyone was pretty loose. We all ended up dancing at the Pony, a gay bar, doing shots of Patron. It was sloppy and messy and one of the best nights ever. They were really fun guys, both of them, both dads at that point, talking about their kids between doing shots of tequila off a drag queen's chest. No one really bothered them. We ate street meat hot dogs after and Bourdain and Mario disappeared into a black sedan. I don't know how those guys live like that, but they're doing it right.

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by Anonymousreply 124June 25, 2018 4:40 AM

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Sadly, I haven't been in flagrante delicto with any writers for awhile as I've been happily coupled for about six years now. Before my partner, however, was a year-long fatal attraction scenario with a memoirist. I barely got out of that one alive. She was everything I wanted in a lover at the time, and no one I would ever take home to my mother. She was brilliant and absolutely nuts, and I knew that too much of her would make a mess out of me.

Charlie Rose. (Pardon the abrupt shift.) Charlie Rose is old-school NYC elegance. He and his partner Amanda (they seem to be off and on, or perhaps just very elusive about their relationship, so I have no idea if they're "together" right now or not) are the epitome of world-class sophisticates: monied, socially connected, with a sharply honed aesthetic sense. She seems to have a highly ambitious agenda, whereas Charlie seems a bit more southernly and patient. He is mannered and kind and sharp, but he seems carefully constructed, as if you'll never know what he's really thinking. He's always on yet off--on for the public yet off the record. Never gets personal, never gets flustered. I've been in his studio several times with interviewees, and around him at several personally-hosted events. I think I could be around him all day every day, and I still wouldn't know much about him. He is always in interview mode--what do YOU do, what do YOU think, how would YOU explain what happened, what is YOUR take on the issue, what would YOU like to talk about--whether you're talking about Syria or where you'd like to vacation. I'm not sure if this is a deflection mechanism or if he's truly interested. He feels like my grandfather did to me: slow, kind, gentlemanly, comfortable and nonthreatening in every way. He likes to stay in the WV and he's loyal to his favorite spots: Spotted Pig, Babbo, the Waverly. I was at the same dinner table as Jeff Bezos and Charlie for dinner in NY and everyone ignored Bezos and treated Charlie like royalty.

As I watched the debate coverage last night, I remembered how utterly humorless Jake Tapper is. In person, I thought maybe he was just highly impressed with himself, or took himself incredibly seriously. Then I realized, after a few times of being around him, that he truly has no sense of delight or humor. When he does smile or laugh, it's because everyone else is, and he forces himself to parrot others. He's a very serious guy, and not someone I'd like to sit next to on a long flight.[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 125June 25, 2018 4:42 AM

[italic] Margaret Atwood I've been around several times at more of an observational level and I ADORE HER. She doesn't suffer fools. A colleague of mine was set to interview her, and I was in the background taking notes, and it became clear pretty quickly that he hadn't read her work. At best, he had skimmed her, and this was before Google, before you could fake it. Things went very south, very quickly. (It was a bit like watching Clinton and Trump last night; he just had no business being on the stage with her.) The interviewer asked her a terribly amateurish question, a "where do you get your inspiration?" question and Margaret gently cleared her throat and looked out the window for what felt like three minutes. It was awful, so uncomfortable, I wanted to crawl under the carpet and die. Margaret looked at me and said, "I bet she could do a better job. Come on, quit taking his notes for him." She looked right at me as if to say, "Come on, girl, this is your shot." She held my gaze, even when I looked down in brain-rattling fear and dropped my notebook, she dipped her head down to catch my eyes again and nod slightly like "stay with me, you can do this." My stomach was flopping. I was no one, I was just here to take notes, and here was ATWOOD staring me down. I'd read everything she ever wrote. After a few fumbles and stutters from me, we launched into a very natural, easy 120-minute conversation. I was trying so hard not to act too young and green, but that's exactly what she liked about me. I must have been trembling slightly because early in the conversation, she reached out and put two fingers on top of my hand and smiled. It was the same motion you make when taking your pulse. She was trying to steady me. I got my footing and I felt like I was talking with an old friend. No credit was given to me in that long article that was published about her, no byline. But those 120 minutes blew open many other doors. I still maintain: if I'm ever so lucky to publish a book, I'm dedicating it to her.

I had the weird honor of being with Salman Rushdie back when he was married to Padma. He was being interviewed, she was with him. He all but rolled his eyes at her a few times. The air between them was strained and thick. She was drop-dead gorgeous in person, but very stoner-ish. I'm not saying she was high, but she was very "huh? do what? where are we going? huh?" It didn't seem like much of a partnership, more like an elderly father with his irresponsible daughter. The interviewer took Salman into the sound studio, and I was left with Padma. We made small talk, which was mostly me trying to strike up a conversation, then I gave up and went silent. There was a plate of food, and she put a cherry tomato in her mouth and kind of sucked on it before disposing it into a napkin and leaving it on a desk. She eventually asked me where I got my scarf and I told her, and she smiled/laughed/giggled/nodded and said, "okaaaaaaaaay, that's really goooood" and walked away toward a bathroom, and I never saw her again. [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 126June 25, 2018 4:42 AM

bump

by Anonymousreply 127June 25, 2018 6:12 PM

I just read through all these thoughts someone had on meeting various celebrities (and I’m not sure why they’re in this thread, other than that Donna Tartt is one of them). I know it’s supposed to show how perceptive this person is at sizing people up, but I found it very depressing and made me glad I’m not famous. Why can’t the work of these writers and actors stand on its own? Why must they always be “on” for random strangers they encounter?

by Anonymousreply 128July 1, 2018 5:52 PM

[quote](and I’m not sure why they’re in this thread, other than that Donna Tartt is one of them)

I started looking for the Donna Tartt bit in an old thread, but then I found these recollections interesting and decided to go through all of them and post them all together.

Wasn't that convenient?

by Anonymousreply 129July 1, 2018 11:31 PM

Back to The Goldfish. I loved it, and started rereading it as soon as I finished it.

by Anonymousreply 130July 4, 2018 8:35 AM

r129 I read them and found them really interesting.

by Anonymousreply 131July 4, 2018 9:23 AM
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