According to someone who has posted here in the past few days, DL has an interest in a type called "AWG" (average white guy). Who are some examples of the AWG liked on DL. What makes them "average"? Who are the non-average white guys?
Bump for some examples.
The Craigslist Killer. There were so many people raving about his hotness when that happened. Guy was totally ordinary but he was white and blonde so therefore a DL dreamboat.
The "AWG" troll is DL's resident black racist troll. Most of those 'AWG' comments were included in some sort of scorn of the troll's idea that DL doesn't give enough props to black people and that we're all just interested in 'AWGs'.
Ignore the troll. Better yet, set it's racist ass on fire and kill it.
I appreciate a cute or handsome guy. I do prefer the average guy, the guy next door. For me this is a man that has an average physique. Not pumped up to look like turkey ready for the roaster. No muscle boys, no shaved and tanned anything. No group think clothes or hair.
"No group think clothes or hair."
You know what average means, right?
What R3 said. Most of the racism here is directed from whites to minorities, but we have a few virulently racist minorities who jump at the chance to bash "whitey". See the recent "do you have any visible minority friends" thread for examples. There was at least one batshit nutter going off on white people in the most ridiculous ways.
[quote]DL has an interest in a type called "AWG"
DL is a website. It has neither interests nor types. It has posters, and a lot of them. Each one is an individual with his or her own likes, preferences, experiences and attractions. DL is not a committee or a hive. It's a public website with an open posting policy, little moderation and complete anonymity. What you read here is indicative of absolutely nothing except what that particular poster thinks, and even that is suspect given the rampant trolling that goes on here.
There is no "average white guy" type that is beloved on DL. There is merely a broad range of posters with a broad range of types that attract them, and both of those things tend to skew heavily white because this is a website directed at gay people in North America, a demographic and region that also skew heavily white.
There are threads on fit-fat guys, pornstars, athletes from every pro and college sport, every random TV and movie star who ever lived, hipsters, nerds, obscure twinks, daddys, black guys, Asian guys, Latino guys and Arab guys. None of them are exclusively "DL's type", either.
"DL is not a committee"
I am not a committee!
[quote]There are threads on fit-fat guys, pornstars, athletes from every pro and college sport, every random TV and movie star who ever lived, hipsters, nerds, obscure twinks, daddys, black guys, Asian guys, Latino guys and Arab guys.
also the actor Elias Koteas
Joseph Gordon Levitt
Finally a thread about this! Plenty of AWG who receive love on DL. Just a sampling:
William and Harry of the inbred family from UK
finally there are plenty of threads about non-famous, random, AWG and the OP asks us to rate his looks
Now, the term AWG is not used by only black posters, as that racist R3 erroneously suggests. Many here are tired of threads about supposedly hot guys only to find out they're nothing more than average-looking white guys. There is a BIG difference between hot white guys and average white guys.
also AWG porn star Colby Keller
Jeremy Renner and Colton Haynes. IMO, Jeremy is ugly and Colton is barely above average.
"Joseph Gordon Levitt
I'm with R9 on this. I don't understabd the sexual attraction to them, although for Louis Tomlinson I do. Another I would add to the "baffling attraction" list is Jake Gyllenhaal. I not only don't understand the attraction but also find him repulsive, almost revolting. I enjoyed Brokeback Mountain but sitting through an entire movie with him was very difficult. It's his only film I've ever watched.
R3 and R6 are just racist and wrong. While there are all types of posters at DL, it seems more often than not, threads about AWG are created. When these guys are labeled as being AWG, posters such as R3 and R6 get butt-hurt and think "it's an attack by the minorities on the whites!!! defend the Klan!" In reality, it's not an attack on all white guys but an attack on calling AWG "hot". When there are the rare threads about hot white guys, no one uses the term "AWG".
Are more threads about AWG created due to the socio economic situation that prevents many black folks from paying to post? AWG's are hot news on DL, ABG's don't get a mention.
R15 not at all...many of us can afford to but choose not to pay to use this site...
R15, perhaps it's because some do not think there are ABGs but rather that all black guys have outstanding attributes, if you know what I mean.
I hear you R16, but reduced economic opportunity is far less prevalent for the white folks on DL I am sure, so starting a thread is skewed.
Timberlake rules this thread
The following mentioned so far don't have sex appeal to me at all (they may not be average but they do nothing for me): Joseph Gordon Levitt, Harry Styles, Josh Barro (looks nasty), Prince William, Prince Harry, Justin Timberlake (looks disgusting, trashy and backwoods), Ryan Reynolds, and Jeremy Renner (pugly). The two princes, especially, would be average white guys if they weren't royals. If I saw them on the street, I wouldn't give them a second consideration. I think William is better looking than the popular Harry, but still average.
The following I think are handsome or good looking and I understand why others may like them: Luke MacFarlane, Jensen Ackles (I can see how he exudes sexiness to some), Bradley Cooper (may be sexy in a smarmy way), Scott Evans (this guy almost defines average white guy but he does have a cuteness to him that goes beyond his looks), Robin Thicke, Jared Padalecki (leaves me dry but I can see why others like him).
The following I think are not average and are sexy: Andy Roddick (mainly because of his ass; he has an awful petulant personality though) and Matt Bomer (I think he's incredibly good looking and far from average but I also can see why others think he is plastic and Ken Doll like without sexiness).
Colton Haynes is in his own special category for me. I think he's very good looking, and he would normally be my type, but he lights no spark. I think what turned me off was a video where I saw him walking, and watching him in movement left me uneasy for some reason that I can't pinpoint. He's gorgeous in photographs though. If this were real life however, I'd probably pounce at the chance to be with him.
Matt Bomer shouldn't be mentioned in this thread. The other names listed so far, hell yes they're AWGs.
[quote]Colton is barely above average
I knew you bitches were going to try and drag Colton into this thread. Im not havin it!
Channing Tatum (his face, not the hot body)
Chad Michael Murray
Chris Hemsworth (facially)
David Beckham for sure
Colton Haynes, anyone? Such an unremarkable, you-can-see-someone-who-looks-like-him-anywhere-white-people-live kind of face.
r21 agree about colton, so hot but there's just something missing. He doesn't seem like any fun.
Those two princes are the only ones listed who are arguably AWG, altho they are more like fugly royal guys.
Jussy TimberFake is the Queen of AWG making it big and being considered "hot". Just so mediocre looking.
They're famous and they have money. By default, that makes them more than average, looks notwithstanding.
interesting to hear from a guy R13 who cannot sit through a film with guys that turn him off. i simply cannot give eye-ball time to any film with adam sandler, ben stiller, the wilson bros and adrian brody. i find them off-putting to look at.
Most blond dudes
David Beckham wins
No r30. But femmy guys have never got his appeal.
I must be femmy then because he looks like trash and appears dirty even when in a tuxedo..
R35 it's the fems who love Timberfake and think he's some macho hunk. He's just not hot to me in any way.
most of the white athletes they like on here are average at best in comparison to the Latin and Black dudes who are athletes.
R37 I'd like to pound Timberlake's ass. He is hot.
R39 he's hot only if you have low standards and are average or less-than-average yourself...
R40 sounds like a bad lay.
Bear Grylls is another one who belongs in this thread
This AWG is boring already.
DL tends to attract more fem prissy older dudes than the average populstion. They tend to have very dull white bread taste and are unsettled by anything beyond their safe zone. That is why they don't even like hot white dudes who are urban and have flavor.
Can someone do a comparison regarding who's an AWG and who's not? Because Matt Boomer is far from average and saying that he is doesn't give you any credibility. And I can't stand the guy.
R44 agreed and then they get mad saying "you just don't like white guys". No you old KWEEN, we like hot white guys, not your average ones.
R45 agreed about Bomer. No way is he average. Most of the guys listed in this thread have either average faces, bodies or both though.
Why does "white" even have to be brought into it?
Because OP is race baiting. I know most racism here is directed towards minorities but we have a least one loony anti-white racist who trolls constantly.
R47 look at the threads here. Most of the ones claiming to be about "hot" or "beautiful" guys are almost all white guys, and almost all AVERAGE white guys. It's ridiculous. A lot of the people starting threads about "hot/beautiful/gorgeous" guys have horrible taste.
[quote] look at the threads here. Most of the ones claiming to be about "hot" or "beautiful" guys are almost all white guys, and almost all AVERAGE white guys. It's ridiculous. A lot of the people starting threads about "hot/beautiful/gorgeous" guys have horrible taste.
So bemoan the "average" guys. And start threads about hot non-whites.
Someone should explain "personal taste" to R49. Colby Keller, Matt Bomer and Jon Hamm are 3 names in this thread that I would never consider "average". They're all gorgeous to me.
Now, having said that, I realize that that is my personal opinion and not a fact. That's why I said they're gorgeous "to me". However, they are all very conventionally handsome men, so someone insisting that they're only average does come off as a bit biased and weirdly defensive.
However, I'm sure R49 has a list of men a mile long that he finds attractive that would leave me scratching my head and wondering what all the fuss is about. That's personal taste. It's personal in that it only represents the speaker's point of view, and it's a matter of taste in that it is based on a oerson's opinion and not a verifiable fact.
Why or how this becomes about "white guys" I don't know. That's a leap that's only explained by racism.
We aren't allowed to have personal tastes in men on the DL.If you don't like shaved gym clones you are an old toad.
For years I have had a hard on for Miguel Ferrer, Rosemary Clooney's son. Some of you will know him from various acting gigs. Do I have to defend him?
Is the kind of intolerant, judgmental, snide and self centered poster that I am talking about. What difference does it make to this bitch who I find attractive? What's in it for him to criticize and demean anyone older than 12?
Yet, this little queen is here on the DL hobnobbing with oldsters. You would think he had something better to do.
I didn't know JT was beloved here
Alec Baldwin. He has his share of haters on here (and rightfully I might add) but there are a lot of you who think he's hot, or used to be hot. He was never anything special physically.
[quote]Colton Haynes, anyone? Such an unremarkable, you-can-see-someone-who-looks-like-him-anywhere-white-people-live kind of face.
Add me to the list of people who doesn't get the Colton Haynes fascination. He looks like any other white twink. Don't get it at all. And he's not even well-known.
JT is popular anywhere there are tops. Maybe you don't know because its drowned out by all the jealous hissing bottoms.
Drew Brees. He has a mediocre body, average face, and is surrounded by a team with much hotter buffer dudes like Jimmy Graham, in a sport with incredibly hot dudes.
I think I've seen maybe one thread with "Drew Brees" in the header.
I have no idea who Josh Radnor is, so I did a search. There are exactly 2 threads about him. The longest is 22 replies. The most recently active one has 4 replies and was last bumped in May.
This entire thread is insane. Don't like white guys? Start a thread about the guys you do. It's really very simple.
You must be new here R66. Hating on white guys is a DL staple. There's threads like this one, talking about how white guys others find attractive are really just average. There's the 'twin brothers get married' thread, which happens when two white guys tie the knot and have their picture in the paper (apparently people are supposed to marry outside their race). There's the 'it's impossible to discriminate against whites because they are in power' variety. Lastly, there used to be the 'I'm (fill in the blank with a non-white ethnicity), but white guys at bars (or on Grindr or whatever) won't sleep with me, the racists!', though thankfully those have tapered off some.
[quote] when two white guys tie the knot and have their picture in the paper (apparently people are supposed to marry outside their race).
Those threads aren't racially motivated. Those couple rarely even look alike to anyone but the loon OP.
R68, "they all look alike" is a common racist viewpoint. I agree that the look-alike threads are asinine. Same hair/eye color does not make any two people twins.
Anyone the "make colored happen" guy doesn't like. He usually kicks in at about the 7th response.
here come the white defenders. You guys are idiots. This thread is not about "hating white guys" or even "not being attracted to white guys". This thread points out the many threads on here that proclaim how hot a lot of ordinary-looking white celebs are. There are plenty of hot white celebs, but most of you AWG lovers don't care about them, and many of you care even less about hot non-white guys. You'll have to deal with this thread. It's absurd how offended you are.
It's absurd that you think your definition of average is gospel.
OK start an ABG thread then.
White gay dudes who are racists sort of make me glad that they aren't accepted by society
[quote]Hating on white guys is a DL staple.
OMG it so is! Literally, every other thread is about hating white men. It’s so not fair!
Not speaking for anyone but myself, but I'm not offended. I think it's a stupid thread, personally, that's all though. As someone else pointed out, no one person's idea of what's either attractive or average is gospel. If there are other threads where people are talking about guys they like, who are you to get on them for it? Ah, but this thread here keeps getting recreated every once in a while, because the one or more DL posters behind it have an agenda apart from the supposed subject matter of the thread itself... Me thinks it isn't the rest of us who A) are getting offended and B) need to deal with it.
[quote] White gay dudes who are racists sort of make me glad that they aren't accepted by society
As opposed to non-white gay dudes? El Oh El.
[quote]This thread points out the many threads on here that proclaim how hot a lot of ordinary-looking white celebs are.
Except that the majority of guys listed here have a handful of inactive threads with few replies about them at most.
And, as has been noted multiple times, personal tastes are arbitrary. Most people get that.
This thread is reactionary bullshit.
[quote]This thread is reactionary bullshit.
No shit Sherlock.
There are average guys of all races.
No white guys with yellow skin are average.
Don't forget about feminine features
FWIW, R53, I also find Miguel Ferrer totally hot. It's the face, the body, the voice, the mildly disdainful attitude....
Anyway, we like what we like. I feel no need for everyone or even most gay guys to share my tastes.
R83, Miguel was a regular at a restaurant I used to work at around 2001-02. He was such a great guy. A total fall down drunk, but a great, great guy. He would drink about 6 Absolut martinis over the course of an hour or so. Tipped amazing. Love him and his barely functioning liver. A tiny man in person.
People can distinguish features better within their own race. For every guy who think all Asians look alike, there are Asians who can't tell whites apart. It is racial R69 but not necessarily racist.
R80 very true but you don't usually see average-looking guys of other backgrounds being celebrated as "OMG so hot!" whereas on this forum, many you-can-find-one-of-them-anywhere-type-of-white-guys threads are created.
Read the original post: "According to someone who has posted here in the past few days, DL has an interest in a type called 'AWG' (average white guy). Who are some examples of the AWG liked on DL. What makes them 'average'? Who are the non-average white guys?"
It is simply seeking information rather than agreeing with the "AWG poster". It suggests curiosity and lack of knowledge rather than agreement with the AWG poster.
R87, you should learn the definition of "trolling".
Jeremy Renner is the epitome of an AWG. that nose!
Do people actually think Renner is attractive?
R90, I do not. I think he looks like a pug.
"Drew Brees. He has a mediocre body, average face, and is surrounded by a team with much hotter buffer dudes like Jimmy Graham, in a sport with incredibly hot dudes."
I am very attracted to Drew Brees. He has an effect on me like few men do, yet I agree that his looks are average at best and that there are many other guys on his team with better faces and bodies. Despite that, he does something to me that few guys have. I can't really explain it.
He's successful, therefore he's attractive to a lot of people. Why do you think ugly guys go into showbusiness?
R19 knows the race and bank account balance of everyone who post on datalounge. Isn't that amazing.
Drew Brees is quite average indeed, as are the Manning brothers.
A lot of athletes are not facially hot since that's not their job. OTOH Hwood stars are virtually never "average" in the real person sense.
IMO even the the least attractive stars do not have problems of averageness. Kellan Lutz EG is gross (facially) but not because he is too plain.
The closest thing to AWGs would be blond guys, natural blond guys are almost never hot to me. But maybe they hair is dramatic looking enough to attract other guys' attention. That still doesn't add up to average.
The other arguable AWGs would be white violent criminals under like 40. Seems like every one gets his own slobbering thread here. But even if they plain looking or ugly they're not "average." They are murderous freaks who are probably living the sad dream of the our most mentally ill posters. Hot!
Drew Brees owns this
Jack Schlossberg, grandson of JFK (Caroline's son).
Drew Brees has an average face but a hot ass.
What do American fundamentalist Christians and GWM DL posters have in common?
They both have huge persecution/perpetual victim complexes out the fucking wazoo.
Not if you compare him to other football players. He doesn't have a buff bod.
Preach it, R99
Brees is nowhere near any other member of his team in terms of buffness but he has a certain sex appeal and has an amazing ass.
I'm shocked that Lee Pace and Tom Hiddleston have not been mentioned in this thread. Tom I understand because the English accent can make even an average looking person attractive -- and like it or not Tom has charisma -- but Lee Pace is so damn ordinary. Yet many posters here are fangurlish over him to the point where it leaves me perplexed.
R103 The one I find very average is DL's new fave Nathan Owens. You can find many of his kind in the streets of LA, reality shows and catalogues.
Tom Hiddleston may not be facially great but he is unique, tall and perfect. Lee Pace is a really beautiful guy.
I'm one of very few people here who think Matt Bomer is oddly unsexy. He looks like a combination of a robot and a wax figure.
R103 totally agreed! Hiddleston and Pace are VERY AWG-looking indeed.
R104 GTFO. In no way is Pace "perfect" unless AWGs are your standard of what "perfection" is.
106 Grow up.
R107 you're one of those AWG-loving DLers, we get it. The idea of you finding Owens and Bomer "not sexy" but the likes of Hiddleston and Pace "hot!" is crazy and shows what poor taste you have.
Thank you for representing why this thread was created.
Someone in this thread really need to grow up. Darker skin tone, six pack abs, big pecs, big jaw, or big blue eyes don't necessarily make one attractive / special to everyone's eyes. Some guys can have all these attributes yet can also be ordinary and boring as hell.
R109 you're hilarious. You're calling 2 gorgeous guys "ordinary and boring as hell" while calling 2 other guys who have average-features-that-you-can-find-wherever-there-are-white-people as "unique" and "beautiful".
Pace and Hiddleston are very unremarkable-looking compared to Owens and Bomer. Pace and Hiddleston are the defintion of AWGs.
so typical of DL.
R110 Oh! LOL I get you. I'm so slow.
Have to agree with R110. Owens and Bomer are so gorgeous that it somewhat distracts from taking notice of their acting. Pace and Hiddleston are nowhere near their league. Pace, especially, is average-looking; he's certainly no head-turner.
Blond guys don't get much attention today
Justin TimberFake is the epitome of DL's AWG obsession.
Take your meds Janet troll, you post about hottie Justin more than anyone else here.
So where are all the threads about super gorgeous non-white guys that the whiners on this thread have started? I've come across maybe two. And like their white guy thread counterparts, there is plenty of "meh" there.
Brees is meh
Brees is meh
Brees is worthy of two mehs?
Neil Patrick Harris.
R24 Agreed he looks alright when clothed on Mad Men, but has an average face and large cock. Not hot in my book.
I never got why America didn't fall in love with Kyle Chandler for the middle age daddy obsession. He is a hot "average" daddy. YUM!!
Colton Hayes - I agree with this.
Pretty much every white professional athlete talked about on this board. All of them, had they be 9-5 type guys, would get ignored in general public.
Peyton Manning. People, especially straight guys drool over him. I think he's repulsive. He looks like Frankenstein but uglier.
[quote] there used to be the 'I'm (fill in the blank with a non-white ethnicity), but white guys at bars (or on Grindr or whatever) won't sleep with me, the racists!', though thankfully those have tapered off some.
Most of those threads were started by a white troll, outed by trolldar
I wouldn't classify Justin Timberlake and Jeremy Renner as AWGs, they're decidedly below average.
Real AWGs include people like Bradley Cooper, Ryan Reynolds, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Jake Gyllenhaal, David Beckham, Colby Keller and James Deen. Not hot.
Colby Keller looks like a serial killer.
Jensen Ackles, Jared Padalecki and John Krasinski for sure.
[quote]Pace and Hiddleston are very unremarkable-looking compared to Owens and Bomer. Pace and Hiddleston are the defintion of AWGs.
Sorry, Lee Pace is NO AWG, but hundred times more attractive & sexier than Matt Bomer & Owens combined. Hiddleston is more of an acquired taste but he has more gravitas than Bomer and Owens.
I knew a (straigth) guy who would berate his friends if they happened to date or have a relationship with a girl that he personally didn't find attractive. The concept of 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' seemed to be beyond his grasp. He had the same attitude toward f.i. tastes in music and fashion or political and philosophical opinion. He just didn't/couldn't allow people to form their own concept of reality.
Lee Pace is definitely AWG
You're nothing but a pathetic fangurl r132. That picture has been shopped and filtered to death. Now THIS is a candid of Justin Timberlake.
Or maybe guys like JT are generally considered handsome and attractive to white people even though people of other races don't see it?
I don't find JT attractive but he is very talented.
I don't think Lee Pace, by that picture at least, is AWG
Pace opens his mouth and becomes awg.
Most of the men listed in this thread are not average, they are decidedly above average. Maybe not your cup of tea, but no reason to be bitter.
R141 He has this very attractive deep, silky sultry voice. And in interviews he seems not taking himself seriously, but keeps it simple. That is one of his appeal.
R142. Hence the question if white guys are likely to find men like Timberlake insanely hot even though he probably might look like an unremarkable, white guy to black people?
I thought fraud would make John Krasinski a superstar after The Office. Or he's still Jim married to Pam raising their kids in suburbia to them?
What kind of fraud did he commit?
R142 not at all. The only white guy mentioned in this thread who is very well above average is Matt Bomer. The rest are all average or below. Timberlake is quite average looking and no one would pay attention to him he weren't famous. He is not a head turner.