Future President Schwarzenegger apparently can't open a major motion picture anymore.
Thank god. Hollywood needs to get the message that people are sick to death of unnecessary remakes.
It deserved to be a dud when the original was already great. Why can't Hollywood quit fucking things up?
Is Runner Runner #1?
"With the exception of The Help and Steven Spielberg’s Oscar bait Lincoln, DreamWorks CEO Stacey Snider just keeps presiding over disappointing theatrical openings like I Am Number Four, Cowboys & Aliens, Fright Night, Real Steel, Spielberg’s own War Horse, and now [The Fifth Estate]. Given how small the studio’s annual output is, you’d think Snider could stop whining about financing long enough to oversee better product."
There's no such thing as an unnecessary remake, R2.
This is one of the bitchiest Box Office Reports that Nikki Finke has ever written:
[quote]Lionsgate/Summit’s been there and done that Escape Plan (opening in 2,883 theaters) pairs Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the kind of film their fans used to flock to. Um, those fans have vanished now that both action heroes are more likely to break a hip than open a movie.
[quote]This hyperbolic melodrama earned only a ‘B-’ CinemaScore from audiences which won’t help word of mouth. Its multiple trailers and high-spend TV ads were as misguided as WikiLeaker Julian Assange played by Benedict Cumberbatch who deserved way better than director Bill Condon.
As far as Fifth Estate, I'm surprised it opened as wide as it did. I was expecting it to open in New York and L.A. and then go directly to video. I guess they wanted to sop up all the free publicity Julian Assange has given it.
With bullying and school violence in the news a "Carrie" remake wasn't an unreasonable proposition, but from everything I've read about it this version doesn't have anything new to bring to it, other than dragging in social media and turning the "Plug it up!" incident into a viral video (such a NEW and NOW idea.)
War Horse was a disappointment? It seemed critically acclaimed at the time. I can't recall is box office was poor.
Even with all those bombs Snider made up for it with Lincoln and The Butler. Her ratio isn't much worse that the average in Hollywood for many (although that won't help her keep her job when it comes down to it).
Looking at OP's post, Gravity is poised to go well over $200 million domestically. Hank's latest only a mild success (?) is you can call it that. What was the budget for Captain Phillips? inc A&P/M&P.
I don't think it's a dud. It was #2 behind GRAVITY, which is pretty much what every new film is going to be for a while. I'm sure it didn't cost a super huge amount of money to make, so it will likely make back its budget and then some.
And it had a female director.
[quote]War Horse was a disappointment? It seemed critically acclaimed at the time. I can't recall is box office was poor.
More manipulative sappy melodrama, everything we hate about Spielberg movies rolled into one. All that was missing was the slap-happy darkies.
[quote]I don't think it's a dud. It was #2 behind GRAVITY, which is pretty much what every new film is going to be for a while. I'm sure it didn't cost a super huge amount of money to make, so it will likely make back its budget and then some.
Awww Honey, you're sweet. It's October and horror movie season. Even "Paranormal Activity 3" opened at $52.6 million it's opening weekend. "Gravity" is in week three.
"Carrie" has an estimated $30 million budget but add in an advertising campaign three times that.
So fucking what, R13? Carrie is not P.A., and P.A. is not Carrie. It'll still likely make its budget back, and then some.
If you wanna talk about duds, let's talk about Machete Kills. Lady Gaga certainly did not help rescue the film from the wreck.
That's because John Travolta didn't play Carrie.
I told you they'd all laugh at you
Not only was the original great but the first remake was better than remakes usually are. I like both previous films.
They picked two great actresses for this to play Carrie and her mother, but it was a highly unnecessary to remake it, AGAIN.
Looked completely horrible, no way was I going to see some second rate shit show. The nobody who plays Carrie displayed horrible acting in the previews, and she was anything but plain looking. I wish they'd knock that shit off.
If they want to introduce a new generation to an old classic why not release the original in theaters???
r19 Carrie was only made once before, by Brian DePalma in the 70s. What other re-make are you referring to?
I sure hope the idiots who gave this project the green light are promptly fired. They deserve it for making absolutely moronic decisions.
R19 is referring to the 2002 TV remake with Angela Bettis as Carrie and Patricia Clarkson as Margaret.
I agree with the reviewer who said Chloë Moretz would have made a better Chris Hargenson. She even looks sort of like Nancy Allen.
[quote]If they want to introduce a new generation to an old classic why not release the original in theaters???
Older movies are too dialogue-heavy for contemporary audiences. Also, they "look old."
I'm not sure anyone expected The Fifth Estate to do that well here. People weren't as interested in WikiLeaks in this country as they were overseas. Some of these films, yes, like Carrie, the studios think are going to be huge blockbusters. Films like The Fifth Estate, they don't.
[quote]I'm not sure anyone expected The Fifth Estate to do that well here.
It's Oscar season. That's why it was released now.
I just saw the Sherleaks movie, I mean the movie about Wikilock.
It's basically "Sherlock" with John wearing a dark beard and glasses and Sherlock with his hair dyed white except black. The weird, tall skinny genius leads the dumbfounded short guy on a thrilling series of adventures. Only Gatiss and Moffat would have come up with better dialogue and plot twists. Good for Cumberbitches though. They were twittering all through the audience in my theater.
Gee whiz! I want to thank OP for wasting his time posting all this here as if we couldn't have found it ourselves on the front page of MSNBC.com
You really NEED a life, OP. Go outdoors! Make new friends!
Apparently, Sandy is the new Queen of Hollywood.
Why was the other Carrie (2013) thread closed?
what happened r31? sometimes they just get dropped due to tech glitches, if no one was discussing anything untoward (racism, n-word use, etc) or fighting.
R20===>Tampon about to explode.
Saw it last night. It was of course brutal in spots, but the acting was good (Julianne always shines and Chloe made a good Carrie). Chris Hargensen got her comeuppance and THEN some.
R20 Maybe they assume youth wouldn't feel like seeing an old film. And it's probably harder to hype up an old film, with a "new" film they can create a fresh marketing campaign. They have to have a gimmick I guess, like the revamped Star Wars trilogy in 1997, or Titanic in 3D.
I know, this whole remake thing really is getting tired.
R1 Because Escape Plan appears to be a remake of the prison scenes in Face/Off.
Chloe pretty awful. Noticed in kick ass 2 she is that child star whose talent will not translate into adulthood. Success too young destroys most promising talent. She's already phoning it in
Saw it and thoroughly enjoyed it. The added gore was wonderful.
The truth about The Fifth Estate is that, aside from the very, very small minority of Cumberbitches in this world, nobody wants to go see a movie where the lead actor looks like a cockroach mated with a rat. And Wearing a nasty-ass blond wig.
[quote]Gee whiz! I want to thank OP for wasting his time posting all this here as if we couldn't have found it ourselves on the front page of MSNBC.com You really NEED a life, OP. Go outdoors! Make new friends!
And yet here YOU are! You must be a Republican.
Box Office update. "Carrie" opens at number 3 behind "Gravity" and "Captain Phillips". Embarrassing.
The first one was excellent and the 2nd one fell into the category of very unnecessary remake; this one is inexplicable.
Just goes to show that although there's lots of geeky Internet sturm und drang over Cumberbatch from certain quarters, the real world is very different.
Yep, r41, and The Fifth Estate couldn't even hold on to #6 through the weekend, falling to #8, behind Prisoners and Enough Said.
The Fifth Estate also got horrible reviews. So the art house crowd looking for Oscar bait obviously stayed far far away.
r5 [quote]DreamWorks CEO Stacey Snider just keeps presiding over disappointing theatrical openings
Yeah, like a woman would know what males want to go see. Stupid bitch.
Kimberly Pierce directed Carrie. She's a lesbian and hates spunk. Guys want to watch the spunk fly. LOL. What a travesty.
How in holy hell did We're The Millers make $148 million in the US?
Yes it is an unnecessary remake but I also liked the added gore.
Not only was "Carrie" remade before, but there was also a horrible sequel to the original film called "The Rage: Carrie 2".
I always wondered why they killed off Betty Buckley in the original when she lives in the book and the two remakes ,the one with Rena Sofer and the new one with Judy Greer?
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I liked We Are The Millers and surprising I also liked Jennifer Aniston...
We're the Millers was awful, except for a funny blooper/gag during the end credits involving the "Friends" theme song.
I think DePalma decided to slice Buckley's character in half because Betty Lynn was such a cunt on set. Even then.
Buckley was horrible to Tess Harper during TENDER MERCIES. Tessie is one of the nicest people I know. She's never disclosed what the deal was but apparently Buckley was a real dragon lady during that shoot.
Same here r51. I am not an Aniston fan by any means and I thought We're the Millers was very funny. Laughed out loud during several scenes.
Americans want to see movies about ROCKET SHIPS and PIRATES!
If the homosex were involved like in the book it'd better.
I liked the remake.
The remake really did feel unnecessary. It wasn't bad, it was just pointless. Julianne Moore was fantastic, but I don't think Chloe Moretz held her own, and I usually am very impressed by her. I honestly think she was just too young for the role. Carrie is supposed to be a senior in high school, but Moretz was only fifteen when them filmed, and she both looked and acted her age.
A friend is seeing it tonight...she never saw the first. To her, this is just another scary, paranormal teen movie. Maybe it has legs? I guess I'll find out tomorrow.