Inspired by another thread, I have to wonder if I should seek a diagnosis of Asperger’s (or Autism spectrum) Below is a list my reasons for suspecting
- Eye Contact, I seldom make it, when I do, it becomes unbearable after maybe two seconds. The only exception to this is if the person in question has startling blue eyes that I just can’t stop looking at, though admittedly, I probably never look for more than a second or two at a time even then.
- Conversation, I can talk endlessly about any subject that I’m interested in, seldom leaving my listeners a chance to speak, I’ll interject side stories detailing something that I’ve mentioned into my own dialogue, it never occurs to me to check to see if my audience is listening because I naturally assume that they find the same subjects intensely interesting. If the subject is changed before I make a point or tell a detail that I find delightful, I’ll change the subject back, even if I have to sit through (mostly ignoring) other topics for ten minutes before I can interject this tidbit, in certain situations, I change the subject back immediately. However, at other times I can hit many different subjects in one rant.
- I tend to research things that spark my interest. I can easily be up most of the night reading information on whatever has sparked my interest recently. I’ll look at the clock and realize that it’s nearly 5am and I’ll have been yawning at 11.
- I will definitely say that unless I’m being purposeful, I am quite clumsy and without grace.
- I was very verbally advanced at an early age, my vocabulary was on collegiate scale before I finished middle school. However, I’ve never been great with spelling or punctuation. I can however use a dazzling array of words appropriately during a verbal conversation.
- Sex, This one always confuses me. I can literally go a month or more without being horny. Then I’ll hit a period where I want sex 24/7 I only want to do specific things with specific guys, I may have one that I only want to top for, another that I’ll only bottom for, yet another that I’ll engage in leather and kink with. But would not do so with the others. Because I just don’t see them as being sexually fit for the position. Then after a couple of weeks I get sick of it all and won’t have any desire for sex for at least a week or more. This makes relationships unbearable on that front, because I’ll feel as though I’m forcing myself into sex to please my partner, then I’ll be back on hot and heavy and confuse the hell out of them.
- I also don’t care for someone to actually live with me. When I want them there, I want them there 24/7, but when I want space, I want them to go home until I’m ready to spend time with them again.
I think I’m a seriously fucked up individual.
Go read about being an Enneagram 5. That might help.
Good lord, if you were any more Aspergic you'd be in a physically abusive relationship with Simon Halls.
Definitely aspbergers, although there isn't much you can do about it. A diagnosis is worthless.
You're what we in the medical community call a self-involved jerk and nobody likes you.
R1, The test I just took put me at a Enneagram 8 with 5 close behind.
R4, You're what we in my circle call a raving bitch, and your type are only useful for entertainment purposes. Now, go shout profanities at a lamp post for the next hour citing that it's style doesn't reflect the period that the neighboring houses were constructed in.
You seem too self-aware.
OP, you sound like an insufferable, sad creature. I don't think you'll need to worry much about the relationship thing, because I cannot FATHOM a person wanting to be in one with you.
Is Aspergers becoming the new Fibromyalgia?
Fortunately, R7, Unlike so many men, I have no problems finding candidates for fuck buddies and boyfriends as most men are superficial and enjoy my aesthetic.
However, most of them are boring with no depth of thought and just as shallow as R8
Asperger's is fibromyalgia for men.
I don't believe you. I think if we actually observed your behavior on camera, it would appear much more normal and regular than you think it does.
This does not sound like Asperger's at all. What you are describing is called Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and the prognosis is bleak. NPD is static and unchangeable.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
I don't think it's Aspergers because I don't think an aspie would take the time or energy to type all that out, proofread it, and post it, and then wait for replies.
I think you have Aspy By Proxy Syndrome, or the urgent desire for a babbling socialite to be seen as an introverted genius instead of the sort of prick who is always amazed and amused by himself.
We call it Bob Saget Syndrome.
OP - you absolutely have Aspergers. Now go away.
It's not NPD. NPDers think they are flawless and everyone else is an unjust accuser or conspiring against them. A good example is the post below, which was posted anonymously by Simon Halls.
[quote]Cunt bitch who the fuck you calling stupid? I'm fully aware of trolldar for all the fuck good it does around this site. The stupid Halls troll feed your passive aggressive personalities so god forbid I say anything against it. If it makes you losers feel better about your pathetic selves to imagine Halls as sspme whack job have at it. I do ask you remember this HE WILL ALSO BE BETTER THAN YOU...ALWAYS. HE'S SEXY, SMART, WEALTHY AND HEAR THIS PART WELL.....HE'S IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOTTEST GUY IN HW!!! Deal with it you hateful slags. So laugh at the trolls witty little zingers and bards..they can be somewhat amusing but never forget this person is very likely mentally unstable.
Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-IV-TR include:
Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
Is arrogant in attitudes and behaviour
Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic.
Sounds exactly like what the OP describes.
[quote][R4], You're what we in my circle call a raving bitch, and your type are only useful for entertainment purposes. Now, go shout profanities at a lamp post for the next hour citing that it's style doesn't reflect the period that the neighboring houses were constructed in.
OP, you have to ignore these people, they just want to get a rise out of you.
Not true, r13. On our Asperger's forum, there are many, many, many long winded posts. False stereotype.
I'm not sure if OP is an Assburger Tard, but man did his Histrionic Personality Disorder come out the second someone didn't agree with him.
R17, I know how Dataloungers can be, but I figured, if I'm going to admit my faults I'd be fine typing my mind to the earlier respondents.
R11, you could be well right, flip side, I decided to email the list of traits to a few family members around the same time I posted this morning. I had one call immediately from the cousin with whom I spend the most time. She emphatically agrees that its likely. The only other reply I've received thus far was another cousin who simply replied that the traits listed describe half of our family, and that i'm not always like that, but do need to work on my eye contact.
She also noted I when I'm seeing someone and bring them to family gatherings that I need to start acknowledging their presence, apparently, and I've called an ex to verify this. I make a brief introduction upon arrival and then ignore my guest as they follow me like a shadow around the venue, never let them speak for themselves, and only address them directly when I want to either verify something or send them to get me something. The ex in question claims that it didn't bother him, however i'm positive that I would have been mortified in the same position.
Someone with NPD will always deny/ignore it. Much like the OP.
It is much more romantic and self-aggrandizing for him to speculate about Asperger's.
Sorry for being bitchy earlier OP. There was a confrontational bitchy thread and it made me into a total tool during lunch hour.
I think the traits you listed are too general: most people could be accused of those behaviors at times or recognize these traits in themselves at times. Asperger's is all about missing the body language clues people have, and you really haven't addressed that issue. It is perfectly natural to talk about things that interest you and ignore things that don't. As long as you know you're not listening to them, I don't see how it's Asperger's.
And no I don't think you're fucked up, just a wee eccentric.
R21, I don't think I'm a narcissist because for the most part I don't give a flying fuck what other people think about me. I always assume that if they desire to be in my life they'll accept me as I am and move on. I'm regarded as a bit crazy at work. There are many people who will not deal with me directly because I've hurt their feelings in past, or embarrassed them by correcting them in front of others. I was approached by someone in administration several years ago now and told that if I didn't sensor myself around people I would become more of a liability than an asset. That was probably five years ago and the only thing that has changed is that fewer people deal with me directly and I'm making more money. Don't get me wrong I loathe my job beyond description, but i'm good at it.
No worries R22,
My answer to your body language statement is simply that I don't look at people in general, so I don't notice their body language. I feel like a lot of my social awkwardness came from growing up gay in a red state. by the time I puberty came along I learned that he quickest way not to get my ass beat was not to look at guys. Or at least that's what I've always told myself.
I loathe aspies!! No empathy freaks
OP, you're an asshole. That's really all it is.
Although there are all kinds of cool sounding names out there today for people who behave like you... that's really all you are: an asshole.
If you don't care what other people think of you, OP, then why are you asking for peoples' opinions about you on DL?
Lord, I'm about to give up on this. R27, I'm trying to get a consensus on if I may have this particular disorder is all. To my knowledge I don't actually know any of you.
And R26, I think being an asshole requires knowing that your behaving in a certain manner before someone points it out afterward.
[quote] if I didn't sensor myself around people I
And you have the nerve to correct others?
If the OP is serious about wanting to know if he's "really fucked up" then he ought to go speak to a mental health professional and stop doing silly things like going to a gay gossip board from medical advice.
None of the behaviors the OP mentioned are proof positive that he has Asperger's Syndrome. Diagnosis of Asperger's is tricky. There are people who have symptoms of it that don't have it and there are people with no noticeable symptoms who do have it.
By the way, having Asperger's Syndrome does not mean a person is "seriously fucked up." Many people with Asperger's function very well and have lasting, fulfilling relationships.
The OP sounds like he's probably just another annoying human being, but he wants to have the diagnosis of Asperger's because he thinks that will be justification for his social inadequacy. Asperger's is considered by some to be well, kind of cool. People who have are viewed as unique, gifted individuals despite their frequently strange behavior.
Some people think having Asperger's is like having a badge of honor or something; they're PROUD of it. Parents would rather their child have a diagnosis of Asperger's rather than just plain autism. Having Asperger's seems like a fad that a lot of people find fascinating. That's weird. Because Asperger's is a lifelong disability that causes great difficulty. It's not easy having Asperger's Syndrome.
I am an aspie OP. My IQ is 152. I can remember numbers unlike anyone I have ever met. I can remember almost every phone number that I have memorized since the age of five. I can tell if people are lying immediately. I'm horrible at reading peoples emotions, but I am seriously a human lie detector (my partner thinks that this is because I am so quiet that I pick up on things that other people don't). There are positives. I have learned to look people in the eye over the years, but still have issues with relationships with people besides my partner. I am so eccentric that people think that I am on drugs or just crazy. To be quite honest, I don't feel the need to have relationships with people outside of my family anyway, unless I am drunk.
An IQ of 152 is not all that exceptional. My IQ is supposedly 148 and I can't remember anything, nor would anyone think I am particularly clever or intuitive.
I bet you make a point of telling everyone you meet, within the first few days of meeting them, about your "genius IQ", though. What a terrible bore you must be.
An IQ of 152 *is* exceptional.
Average is 100.
But IQs don't actually mean what people think they mean.
Depends on the context of the testing, R33. Lots of nitwits brag about their genius IQs based on short online tests that pad scores by a good 15-25 points on average. Those sites thrive by appealing to individual vanity.
OK R34, well, a real Standford Binet Intelligence Quota score of 152 would be considered exceptional. Genius.
Einstein's IQ was 160.
Yes, and James Woods' IQ is, according to him, 162.
I rest my case.
You have no case.
I think R36 has a fairly good case.
R32, I took the Stanford-Binet test, and haven't told anyone about the results, except for my partner and family members. Trust me, I realize that it is essentially meaningless. I can perform exceptionally well on any test, but can barely function in everyday life. I drive 20 minutes to go to the grocery store, so that I won't bump into neighbors. I would give anything to be a normal person who can have close relationships with many people. It isn't in the cards.
Aspergic narcissism is different from NPD. Aspergic narcissism is a natural byproduct of constant introspection. A good example is Woody Allen's Alvy Singer. Actually almost any character Woody Allen has played, although Alvy is a personal favorite. "Annie Hall" is the high holy grail of Aspiedom.
Social awkwardness doesn't automatically equal Asperger's for fuck's sake. Knock it off with the self-diagnoses. You're so full of yourself.
[quote]Social awkwardness doesn't automatically equal Asperger's
It COULD mean Asperger's.
Then you should go get diagnosed, OP.
He can't R47. They removed Aspergers from the DSM.
Why did they do that, R48? It seems too new.
OP, yeah, you probably have Asperger's, but you might just have Scorpio in a strong position in your chart. Go to alabe.com and do a free chart to find out.
The next question is, if you determine you are an Aspie, what then? Do you want to do anything about it, or do you want to stay the same? Supposedly the GAPS diet works really well to reduce unpleasant autistic symptoms, as the gut and brain are related.
R50 This is the only Scorpio in my chart
Uranus is in 26 Degrees\tScorpio.
You, and your peer group, demand to confront life at its deepest and most meaningful levels. Very compulsive and obsessive in your approach to everything, you will avoid anything that is casual or superficial, especially when it comes to relationships. You will seek out and explore new methods of healing as well as different ways to deal with deep-seated emotional problems.